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Old 10-01-2019, 05:41 PM   #507
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Originally Posted by elpressiedente View Post
How the fuck would anyone know
The US NCI conducted a trial. From the paper I cited: ''No substantive benefit was observed in terms of cure, improvement or stabilization of cancer, improvement of symptoms related to cancer, or extension of life span. The hazards of amygdalin therapy were evidenced in several patients by symptoms of cyanide toxicity or by blood cyanide levels approaching the lethal range.''

Originally Posted by elpressiedente View Post
Did they grind the seeds? Did they process them in anyway. Did they just extract the active ingredient? Did they 'oxidise' after preparation...
A preparation was produced by the US NCI Pharmaceutical Resources Branch and verified by a variety of tests. The dosage was based on the published recommendations of Krebs, Jr., and the Bradford Foundation.

Originally Posted by elpressiedente View Post
Lots of ways for the PISS reviewed dumbarses to rig the results.
This happens in research labs within universities and pharma companies everyday!

'Today we discovered a cure for a type of cancer. In this breakthrough we can bring great fame and fortune to ourselves and our institution, earn a place in history, a likely trip to Sweden to be awarded the Nobel Prize, followed by interviews worldwide, plus we can extend and improve the lives of millions of people, including members of our own families, friends and potentially ourselves. But our 'overlords' will not be pleased. So best rig the results!'

Originally Posted by elpressiedente View Post
My father was diagnosed with throat cancer, he bought apricots and saved the seeds and ate a handfull a day until the next appointment where surgery was to be scheduled. It was cancelled and dont give me that spontaneous remission crap dumbcritic.
It was disproven

As for spontaneous regression/remission, it's hardly ''crap'' as there are many case reports/series in the literature and based on some of the mechanisms pharma are testing a wide range of drugs. One of these (ADU-S100) is well-tolerated in a heavily pre-treated, heterogenous patient population. Two of 40 had a partial response and 11 achieved stable disease. Of the latter 4 are still receiving treatment. Based on preclinical data (which isn't a lot to go on) other agents should work much better (see the two boxes at the bottom of the slide) and

Another (G100) is going into a pivotal trial in fNHL patients who have failed three lines of prior therapy. Initial data will be known in Q4. Other trials in B and T-cell lymphomas and different solid cancers (cervical, CRC, melanoma, HNSCC and STS) will start soon. The company is working on an additional intratumoral treatment as well
''Chlorine is a deadly poison gas employed on European battlefields in World War I. Sodium is a corrosive metal which burns upon contact with water. Together they make a placid and unpoisonous material, table salt. Why each of these substances has the properties it does is a subject called chemistry'' - Carl Sagan

Why is it that the loudest critics of ''Big Pharma'' are Big Placebo?

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