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Old 01-09-2012, 08:27 PM   #18
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IRAN is a very conservative place run by a corrupt clergy..They have their issues for sure..But then they have very powerfull enemies.

Ahamajinidad is popular as he promised to rout out the corruption in the clergy and strengthen civil rights and equality..

But in light of the list of persecutions posted by truelion i am starting to beleive its not as bad as i thought, when compared to the framing, detentions and murder of muslims and other minorities in the west it pails in insignificance.

Strange too that Iran supports Syria that protects relegious freedom..
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Ahamajinidad is popular as he promised to rout out the corruption in the clergy and strengthen civil rights and equality..

Where on earth are you getting your stuff from? NOWHERE IN REALITY.

If the Ahamajinidad regime seeks to "strengthen civil rights and equality" they wouldnt be sentencing apostates to death terroizing the bahai and killing government protesters:

Government protesters:

Five of the defendants are charged with "waging war against allah" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8489012.stm

three people were publicly hanged in the southern city of Shiraz, according to state-run web site Iran Khabar. The victims were reportedly accused of “moharebeh” (waging war on allah), http://www.english.mojahedin.org/pag...x?newsid=12201

This is a must see, its about a young lady who became a revolutionary in iran. FOR NEDA.

Bahai:

Religious academics from universities across the world have denounced a campaign of official persecution against Iran's Baha'i minority. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-minority.html


killing and jailing apostates:

An Iranian court upheld the death sentence against a man who converted to Christianity, a religious group reported today. http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...g-christianity

Twelve Christians stood trial Easter Sunday in Iran, where they were called “apostates” in a courtroom and tried on multiple charges, according to sources close to Iran’s Christian community. “It ultimately illustrates that being a Christian is illegal in Iran. No matter how clear or how open a pastor and a church may be, Christians are being brought to trial just for being Christian,”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04...#ixzz1sDvqzMjd

Iran attempts to shut down Iranian Christian News website http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2011/...ws-website.php


No freedom at all in iran to even have discussions that the state doesnt want people to have:

APA reports that Kamran Ayazi was imprisoned for 9 years, Laden Mustofi for 5 years, Haniye Sane Farshi for 7 years, Hujjatullah Nikuyi for 5 years, Mohammedrza Puneki for 6 years, Mohammedrza Ahlagi for 6 years, Sapehr Ibragimi for 8 years, Amir Latifi for 7 years because of discussing and disputing on Islamic rules in the internet. They were arrested in February 2011 by ETTELAAT. Now they are kept in Tehran prison. http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=164113


JARAS: Ahmad Reza Hashempour, a 40-year-old Ph.D., was arrested in 2007. A lower court had sentenced him to death, and the Supreme Court this week upheld Hashempour's death sentence on charges of "membership in anti-religion and blasphemous websites." http://www.iranian.com/main/2012/jan...r-prisoner-day


No freedom and protection for young children:

Iranian Child Brides Get Younger — And More Numerous

An Iranian NGO, the Society For Protecting The Rights of The Child, said 43,459 girls aged under 15 had married in 2009, compared with 33,383 three years previously. In 2010, 716 girls younger than 10 had wed, up from 449 the previous year, according to the organisation.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/frank-c...more-numerous/


etc, etc, etc... Yeah, loads of civil liberties in iran.

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But in light of the list of persecutions posted by truelion i am starting to beleive its not as bad as i thought, when compared to the framing, detentions and murder of muslims and other minorities in the west it pails in insignificance.
Muslims are being murdered in the west for being muslims? WHERE?

You have no stats to compare, yet already you think the west is worse. Madness.

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Strange too that Iran supports Syria that protects relegious freedom
Thats a clear fallacy, whom iran supports have nothing to do with the treatment of minorities in iran.

You want to see how minorities are treated in iran, you check out the treatment of bahai. Their treatment is the nearest that you can expect to receive in iran being outside the so called abrahamic grouping.

And futhermore, the site owner of this forum would be either jailed or killed by the state for his veiws on religion. Therefore you are betraying yourselves in complete ignorance.
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