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Old 14-07-2009, 09:06 AM   #10
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I think Gangstalking TI`s are there own worst enemy and don`t take in account of various things ....after a while anything that's negative or irritates,harass them is some how deliberate and organized to personal persecute them, that does not mean they don`t experience this or effected by it its just there explanation does not add up.
I do believe they do get harassed and intimidated.

sorry If this replay a bit of a jumble sort of post to another TI ,I am working on linking this together.

I think TI`s need to break the "got gangstalked" ----" why me"----"who doing it" cycle

I think TI`s should stick to understanding how there Minds work and the Technology not get distracted by people/things in there environment they belief & who they perceive are harming them

This is my point new TI`s need the information , the terms to look up ,support
and help unfortunately when they are in trauma,shock and in a Hyper Vigilance
state, were do they go? Gangstalking sites which I believe don`t help to
explain, are misleading hardly mention the technology and basically say yes you
are being fallowed and their are all this groups after you and agents and
snitches, heres what they do huge list of ambiguous behavior with some kind of
covert meaning attached and then says your family loved ones,kids will snitch on
you...good luck.

Are you surprise they all learn to spot all this and end up believing half to
town in on it ?

Yes TI`s need to talk but they don`t have always have to agree and "reinforce" a
belief into a another TI.

We need to relate to other TI`s but not through what we saw our believed preps
do or by saying everything negative in our live is due to Prep action.

first hyper vigilance

what is it

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Hypervigilance is an enhanced state of sensory sensitivity accompanied by an exaggerated intensity of behaviors whose purpose is to detect threats. Hypervigilance is also accompanied by a state of increased anxiety which can cause exhaustion. Other symptoms include: abnormally increased arousal, a high responsiveness to stimuli and a constant scanning of the environment for threats.[1] Hypervigilance is a symptom of posttraumatic stress disorder.[2]

[edit] Symptoms

People suffering from hypervigilance may become preoccupied with studying their environment for possible threats, causing them to lose connections with family and friends. They will often have a difficult time getting to sleep or staying asleep.
Now you said that hypervigilance is caused by harassment and that harassment was by OS but is this not a expanding vicious circle ?

The more sensitivity you are to your environment the more you notice , the more it harasses you? Also don`t other TI`s tell you what to be aware of? what preps they spot? don`t Gangstalking sites train you to spot preps and decode there signals and tactics ?

whats an everyday occurrence when you are feeling hypervigilanent? or some deliberate action to make you hypervigilanent begin?

Can the tech not make you hypervigilanent in the first place by its self?

Also why would they make you hypervigilanent?

It is definitely not useful to be in a hypervigilanent state for any type of mind control as far I am aware.

think about it what does an hypnotist say

"watch my eyes you are getting sleepy"

I Have heard that some believe its to apply NLP ...what are they trying to HyperNLP you? how could they focus the NLP with all the other stimuli you are taken in and processing ?

brainwashing & mind control techniques

1) HYPNOSIS - Inducing a high state of suggestibility, often thinly disguised as relaxation or meditation.

a. Repetitive Music (most likely with a beat close to the human heart 45 to 72 beats per minute). Most likely used during "study sessions" as the teacher will say the music helps you relax and concentrate better!

b. Voice Roll -- A "voice roll" is a patterned, paced style used by hypnotists when inducing a trance. It is also used by many lawyers, several of whom are highly trained hypnotists, when they desire to entrench a point firmly in the minds of the jurors. A voice roll can sound as if the speaker were talking to the beat of a metronome or it may sound as though he were emphasizing every word in a monotonous, patterned style. The words will usually be delivered at the rate of 45 to 60 beats per minute, maximizing the hypnotic effect.

c. Room "Feel" - The way a room feels is essential to hypnotizing unknowing subjects. It needs special lighting, florescent lights are best because they aren't too dim, but aren't too harsh. Also, Room Temp helps a bit, usually a little cooler than normal room temperature. You need to have the unknowing subjects very relaxed, perhaps even close to falling asleep.

2) PEER GROUP PRESSURE - Suppressing doubt and resistance to new ideas by exploiting the need to belong.

3) "LOVE BOMBING" - Creating a sense of family through physical touch, thought & feeling sharing and emotional bonding.

4) REJECTION OF OLD VALUES - Accelerating acceptance of new lifestyle by constantly denouncing former beliefs and values.

5) CONFUSING DOCTRINE - Encouraging blind acceptance and rejection of logic through complex lectures on an incomprehensible doctrine.

6) METACOMMUNICATION - Implanting subliminal messages by stressing certain key words or phrases in long, confusing lectures.

7) REMOVAL OF PRIVACY - Achieving loss of ability to evaluate logically by preventing private contemplation.

8) DISINHIBITION - Encouraging child-like obedience by orchestrating child-like behaviour

9) UNCOMPROMISING RULES - Inducing regression and disorientation by soliciting agreement to seemingly simple rules which regulate mealtimes, bathroom breaks and use of medications.

10) VERBAL ABUSE - Desensitizing through bombardment with foul and abusive language. (Physical abuse, such as torture, is the more extreme form of this.)

11) SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND FATIGUE - Creating disorientation and vulnerability by prolonging mental an physical activity and withholding adequate rest and sleep.

12) DRESS CODES - Removing individuality by demanding conformity to the group dress code.

13) CHANTING OR SINGING - Eliminating non-cult ideas through group repetition of mind-narrowing chants or phrases.

14) CONFESSION - Encouraging the destruction of individual ego through confession of personal weaknesses and innermost feelings of doubt.

15) FINANCIAL COMMITMENT - Achieving increased dependence on the group by 'burning bridges' to the past, through the donation of assets.

16) FINGER POINTING - Creating a false sense of righteousness by pointing to the shortcomings of the outside world.

17) ISOLATION - Inducing loss of reality by physical separation from family, friends, society and rational references.

18) CONTROLLED APPROVAL - Maintaining vulnerability and confusion by alternately rewarding and punishing similar actions.

19) CHANGE OF DIET - Creating disorientation and increased susceptibility to emotional arousal by depriving the nervous system of necessary nutrients through the use of special diets and/or fasting. Also applying drugs for these purposes fall in this category.

20) GAMES - Inducing dependence on the group by introducing games with obscure rules.

21) NO QUESTIONS - Accomplishing automatic acceptance of beliefs by discouraging questions.

22) GUILT - Reinforcing the need for 'salvation' by exaggerating the sins of the former lifestyles.

23) FEAR - Maintaining loyalty and obedience to the group by threatening soul, life or limb for the slightest 'negative' thought, word or deed.
Hypervigilance is an enhanced state of sensory sensitivity accompanied by an exaggerated intensity of behaviors whose purpose is to detect threats.
People suffering from hypervigilance may become preoccupied with studying their environment for possible threats, causing them to lose connections with family and friends. They will often have a difficult time getting to sleep or staying asleep.

Post traumatic stress disorder[1][2] (abbreviated PTSD) is an anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to one or more traumatic events that threatened or caused great physical harm.

We are certainly going through a traumatic event.

Gangstalking sites use the term (DEW) direct energy weapons to describe the technology (neurological weapons, radio-frequency weapons)

what is a DEW

A directed-energy weapon (DEW) is a type of weapon that emits energy in an aimed direction without the means of a projectile. It transfers energy to a target for a desired effect. Some of these weapons are real or in development; others are at present only science fiction.

The energy can come in various forms:

* Electromagnetic radiation (typically lasers or masers).
* Particles with mass (particle beam weapons).
* Sound (sonic weaponry)

In science fiction, these weapons are sometimes known as death rays or rayguns and are usually portrayed as projecting energy at a person or object to kill or destroy.

You could say microwave hearing is a DEW but its not the microwaves & tiny amount of energy that cause the thermal expansion that effects us but the audio it can be produced inside our heads and the psychological direction used against us, so its not the raw energy .

Also if you look at what Dr persinger does and what Dr. Nick Begich says

Dr. Persinger's work, "Growing evidence from laboratory research suggests that the application of weak, complex, low-frequency magnetic fields to the human brain can induce sympathetic shifts neural activity and have consequences for cognition and awareness...The net effect of this interaction can be a magnetically induced altered-state of awareness often resulting in complex hallucinations."

also I think Dr.Nick Begich said that 1/50th of the strength of the earths natural magnetic field could entrain the human mind

So DEW is correct but it can be misleading its not raw energy to ZAP but more complex and at similar strength to what our own brains produce , This also explains why they are difficult to detect.[/quote]

Also They don`t mention victim mentality
What is victim mentality?
A victim mentality is one where you blame everyone else for what happens in your world. (Another definition not as commonly used is one that says a person thinks the future only holds bad things for them.) If you do not get the promotion it is because Mr. Johnson was out to get you. Not because he found you playing on the Internet every day. Your best friend called and said she could not have dinner with you. She is always doing that to you; not showing. You'll show her. You won't invite her when you go out again! Instead of remembering she has just started school and you did call her at the last minute. Victim mentality.

Recently I spoke with someone who no longer lives with a victim mentality. She has gone on with her life and is free from some of the extra baggage that come with being a victim. We discussed forgiving our abusers and how in that process you also need to forgive yourself. With that came loosing the victim mentality.

When she was living under the victim mentality she found herself angrier. She found herself swirling in a sea of resentment towards her abuser. She stayed locked in that cycle and never seemed to move forward. If she got sick, she became angry at him. If the kids messed up, she became angry at him. He was no longer in the picture, but it was all his fault. It was not hers; he made things this way... Life is easier when you can play the blame game. The blame game makes it easy for your life not to move forward or for you to grow.

Also how do other people view and treat TI`s?
prejudice,preconceived ideas , predictive programing we are up against
Tin foil hat
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A person wearing a tin foil hat.

A tin foil hat is a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of aluminium foil or similar material. Alternatively it may be a conventional hat lined with foil. Some people wear the hats in the belief that they act to shield the brain from such influences as electromagnetic fields, or against mind control and/or mind reading.

The concept of wearing a tin foil hat for protection from such threats has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and is associated with conspiracy theorists.

The reasons for their use include the supposed prevention of perceived harassment from governments, spies or paranormal beings. These draw on the stereotypical images of mind control operating by ESP or technological means, like microwave radiation. The effectiveness of tin foil hats is disputable, however the belief in their necessity is popularly associated with paranoia or mental illness.[1]

* 1 Scientific basis
* 2 References in popular culture
* 3 See also
* 4 References
* 5 External links

[edit] Scientific basis

The notion that a tin foil hat can significantly reduce the intensity of incident radio frequency radiation on the wearer's brain has some scientific validity, as the effect of strong radio waves has been documented for quite some time. [2] A well constructed tin foil enclosure would approximate a Faraday cage, reducing the amount of (typically harmless) radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation inside. A common high school physics demonstration involves placing an AM radio on tin foil, and then covering the radio with a metal bucket. This leads to a noticeable reduction in signal strength. The efficiency of such an enclosure in blocking such radiation depends on the thickness of the tin foil, as dictated by the skin depth, the distance the radiation can propagate in a particular non-ideal conductor. For half-millimeter-thick tin foil, radiation above about 20 kHz (i.e., including both AM and FM bands) would be partially blocked, although it should be noted that tin foil is not sold in this thickness, and numerous layers of tin foil would be required to sustain this effect.[3]

The effectiveness of the tin foil hat as electromagnetic shielding for stopping radio waves is greatly reduced by the fact that it is not a complete enclosure. Placing an AM radio under a metal bucket without a conductive layer underneath demonstrates the relative ineffectiveness of such a setup. Indeed, because the effect of an ungrounded Faraday cage is to partially reflect the incident radiation, a radio wave that is incident on the inner surface of the hat (i.e., coming from underneath the hat-wearer) would be reflected and partially 'focused' towards the user's brain. While tin foil hats may have originated in some understanding of the Faraday cage effect, the use of such a hat to attenuate radio waves belongs properly to the realm of pseudoscience.

A study by graduate students at MIT determined that a tin foil hat could either amplify or attenuate incoming radiation depending on frequency; the effect was observed to be roughly independent of the relative placement of the wearer and radiation source.[4] At GHz wavelengths, the skin depth is less than the thickness of even the thinnest foil.[citation needed]

Tin foil hats are seen by some as a protective measure against the effects of electromagnetic radiation (EMR). Despite some allegations that EMR exposure has negative health consequences,[5] at this time, no link has been verifiably proven between the radio-frequency EMR that tin foil hats are meant to protect against and subsequent ill health.[6]

[edit] References in popular culture

Tin foil hats were worn in the movie Signs to protect from alien mind-reading tactics, and coincidentally were alluded to in another Mel Gibson movie, Conspiracy Theory.

Tin foil hats are frequently used in popular culture to indicate paranoia, especially as induced by mental illness.[1]

EastEnders character Joe Wicks was briefly portrayed constructing and wearing his own tin foil hat as part of a storyline which saw him suffering from schizophrenia.

In an episode of the Discovery Channel television show Mythbusters dealing with microwave oven myths, Adam Savage constructed a tin foil hat to wear while working in the shop, as Jamie Hyneman had taken apart a microwave in an attempt to design a "microwave gun." That hat was not intended to provide serious protection for Adam, and was a tongue-in-cheek reference to their use. However, Adam was seriously concerned for the safety of the show's cast and crew while working with an uncovered microwave.

In April 2007, MMORPG World of Warcraft announced a new in-game item on its website named the 'Tinfoil Hat'. The hat came complete with tongue-in-cheek statistics such as hiding the player's profile from The Armory (an online character database), and allowing the player to see 'the truth'. The item was later revealed to be an April Fool's Day joke.

FactCheck suggested that those who espouse Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories "should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat."[7]

Dam this is shocking

EastEnders character Joe Wicks was briefly portrayed constructing and wearing his own tin foil hat as part of a storyline which saw him suffering
from schizophrenia.

Also how the "system" is geared to work against us anyway basically to treat us like "mental ill" and disregard our claims as delusions and waste of time and paper work

also a TI is going through a bit of a culture shock, loss of status etc...
remember the movie Trading places
For the experiment, they choose Louis Winthorpe III (Dan Aykroyd), Harvard educated, snobby, silver spoon manager of the firm’s Philadelphia office, and street hustler Billy Ray Valentine (Eddie Murphy). To destroy Winthorpe’s reputation, Duke operative Clarence Beeks (Paul Gleason), publicly frames him as a thief. Winthorpe is promptly arrested and fired from his job, and he soon learns that his bank accounts have been frozen and he has been locked out of his home (as it is technically property of the Dukes). When his snobby fiancĂ© Penelope comes to post bail for him, a prostitute named Ophelia (Jamie Lee Curtis) kisses him and asks him to give her drugs, promising to do anything he wants her to do in return. Upset, Penelope calls off the engagement on the spot. Louis soon finds himself ostracized by Penelope and all of his friends and colleagues, who refuse to help him.

Winthorpe, finally hitting rock bottom after people look at him disdainfully on a bus, move seats when he sits down, is urinated on by a dog and it starts to rain, attempts suicide twice, first with a pistol (which jams, but fires when he drops it) and then with an overdose of sleeping pills. He is taken back to his own house and nursed back to health, and Valentine, Ophelia, and Coleman tell him about the Dukes’ full scheme. The enraged Winthorpe initially wants to cripple the Dukes physically by shooting them in the kneecaps with a double-barrel shotgun, but Valentine suggests that breaking them financially would be the best revenge for both of them.
unfortunately we attract (magnets) for anti socially behavior and crime ...not because its organize its society picks on the "weak" and "weird" not that we are but non TI`s perceive we are.
It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them."
United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century
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