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hangthedj 11-01-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajas (Post 1061249435)
Yew Tree Report: "Giving Victims A Voice": http://www.nspcc.org.uk/news-and-vie...f_wdf93652.pdf

It should be called 'Giving victims and the whole country the middle finger' I reckon :mad:

evieee 11-01-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv evreone (Post 1061249399)
Which one?

God, missed his first name. I was so excited to finaly post something, sorry!

Claimed he had also been a victim and had tried to tell relatives but wasn't believed.

It will be on sky's home page soon

dolores1 11-01-2013 02:01 PM

Team Anders - The dam busters!
 
We owe it to ourselves and Anders7777 now to bust open the lies, the corruption, take apart the gate keepers and the organisations to expose the entire truth on the rape, murder and abuse of all children.


At this time is is possible to feel and experience the soul/spirit deadening effects of these Satanic criminals and their attacks.


So let us protect ourselves against this by setting up some grounding, which can be done by picturing ourselves in a bubble of light before we come on line to this thread. By sending love and light to those suffering and strength to the Warriors of Light engaged in this battle on this and other threads. By sending good vibrations out to those just awakening, adding to their strength.


Calling on the spirits and guardians of light for protection and knowledge. If we are together who can be against us?


Love
Dolores
:)

discovery77 11-01-2013 02:02 PM

Jeez what a blog post eh.

So they put a D NOTICE ON IT. Bastards. Knew it.

They possibly drugged her

2 co workers 'suicided'

theyve raided her flat and taken laptop, but worryingly she thinks she can trust them :eek:

God hope she is ok. :(

evieee 11-01-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evieee (Post 1061249442)
God, missed his first name. I was so excited to finaly post something, sorry!

Claimed he had also been a victim and had tried to tell relatives but wasn't believed.

It will be on sky's home page soon


Guy Marsden

tajas 11-01-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangthedj (Post 1061249441)
It should be called 'Giving victims and the whole country the middle finger' I reckon :mad:

Suppose so :(, but at least it's "something". A partial and weak result.
An acknowledgment.
About what you'd expect from the Establishment and their goons.

We all know who the prime movers were who initially got the ball rolling ;).
The ball's still rolling, if anything, picking up speed.
It's not over.

baboshka 11-01-2013 02:09 PM

am I shocked hearing this? No :(
My b/f just said to me if Savile was a lone peado, then how come no one exposed him for what he did for all these years knowing what he had done.
If they had nothing to hide they would have. All they gave a shit about was thier fame, wealth and thier sick games.
I think I will just go beat a rug up in the garden:mad:
Am so pissed off atm cannot string a peoper sentance.
Babo

james25 11-01-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajas (Post 1061241939)
That single post using his alter's name, Advocatus, at 8.15pm on the 28th December is really doing my head in and has got
my Spidey senses tingling big time. So few words, but put in such a way totally characteristic of Anders' kindness and encouragement.

Either:

(1). Anders had to go "underground" rapidly (yes, I know, I don't mean "that"), or
(2). He got his results, they were unexpectedly very bad, and he wanted to spend his final days or weeks in isolation and peace away from the world and all the turmoil, or
(3). Someone is seriously fucking with us all.

Very strange how that account was created on the 23rd, just two days before his apparent passing. Someone knew something.

I will believe he's gone when the obituary is published in his local press.
How he died is another matter entirely.

(Sorry if this speculation offends anyone. We were taught "there are no coincidences". I, for one, was paying attention).

Whoever wrote that post seemed to be in the habit of typing your instead of you're, and I can't imagine Anders doing that with him being a writer. It is very odd, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061249424)
Yeap and he mentioned politicans and diplomats at kids sex parties, well well well, sky disnt want to pick up on that phew tree

I wish more people would have the guts to start a thorough investigation and go after these people. This is what the main cover-up is all about.

blupblup 11-01-2013 02:22 PM

I'm so far behind that I have no hope of catching up... been manic over the last few weeks, I used to be on here reading every day, several times a day :(


Can anyone summarise what's happened lately please?

Any new names? Any more revelations?

Anything done, anyone arrested?


Thanks in advance.

marny 11-01-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Fifty years of abuse by presenter Jimmy Savile is revealed by police, including a boy as young as eight and victims in 13 hospitals and a hospice.

Savile report: Day's events
We demand to know who helped him get away with it, do they think the public are idiots.

hangthedj 11-01-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thehuntergatherer (Post 1061249216)
Nil Desperandum BB,its all about the magic bullet now.. that is algorhythmic mathematics.Every one person you talk to or refer to this site and this thread will tell another two or three down the pub on friday night.Two people nearby in the room will see overhear animated passion on the subject of this thread and text or tweet another person who may round robin the subject...and on and on it goes building in strength and force.Evidence of this... well firstly its a proven mathmatical equation and secondly look at the flood of members we have had recently more joining every day...chin up we will reach the light at the end of the tunnel.We are winning.!!

Great post, spot on!

I am purely on twitter because of this outrage, it is amazing the messages of support we are receiving both directly and indirectly from people who use normally use twitter to chat to their friends, follow the MSM media, or for other reasons.

HUGE numbers are waking up to the powerful story brought direct from this thread and people working incredibly hard elsewhere also, and they are taking it to their friends and family and other people they know.

This thing is unstoppable now, too many people know the truth!!

:)

luv evreone 11-01-2013 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061249424)
Yeap and he mentioned politicans and diplomats at kids sex parties, well well well, sky disnt want to pick up on that phew tree

Quote:

Originally Posted by evieee (Post 1061249442)
God, missed his first name. I was so excited to finaly post something, sorry!

Claimed he had also been a victim and had tried to tell relatives but wasn't believed.

It will be on sky's home page soon

That's Guy Marsden. Thanks :)

Savile nephew
Guy Marsden, a nephew of Savile's, was just interviewed on Sky News. He said the report was "what he expected – which I've known all along, really."

He said these crimes could never have come out while Savile was alive; "he was such a powerful person."

Within his family, none of this was ever talked about, he said.

Marsden said he'd been a "bad 'un" when he was younger, so he was the only one in the family who was able to see Savile's behaviour for what it was.

He said he could give 10 other names on air now – presumably other sex offenders – but the presenter would stop him. She did.

"In my family, nobody else has said they've known about this," he said.

He said Savile was not a one-off: "it's happening now exactly what was happening then, and these people will never been caught because they're so powerful and so big."

The only time these things ever came out was when these people died, he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...orts-live-blog

marny 11-01-2013 02:31 PM

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Commander Peter Spindler: "We will... make sure victims in the future have a voice"
What a waste of space , They won't, they won't do anything about the ones that are still involved now.:mad:

beast 11-01-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marny (Post 1061249490)
What a waste of space , They wont, they wont do anything about the ones that are still involved now.:mad:

If they were at all serious they could lift all D notices and let us know who they are.

rationalenquirer 11-01-2013 02:55 PM

I think Chris Spivey is a little pissed off

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.ph...53828944737011

juan juan 11-01-2013 02:56 PM

So,600 complaints,450 of which against Savile abd the whole if Operation Yewtree done and dusted in 3 months eh?

Absolute bollocks.

Ive known friends wait 2 years to resolve a simple parking fine dispute.

The whole things a setup from the start i think.All completed in 3 months and,oh so conveniently,no charges cause Savile is dead.

Thats why they picked him!

Nothing to see here,move along now...

Bastards.

dopey 11-01-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by discovery77 (Post 1061249402)
gonna post this all, too important not to.

it follows an unkindly and unfair go at her. Shes also included links to her projects.
Why do some people insist on being so cynical - did this person lack sensitivity or does he have an agenda?!

Mary Moss
January 10, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Lets get this straight. I am not deluded I was in care due to my father sexually abusing me at 12 (never been prosecuted even recently tried and police have no report despite 13 court cases in 1981) now all my life I never understood why he could do that to me and I know it was probably because I was born hard.. and no matter how much he beat me and my family and torchered my mother I never cried and that got him and he had to do something to me extra to fuck me up.. still it did not answer why.. he hated us so much as he is not mad but a very clever man and he was very suspicious as a character and very powerful in whatever he was involved with which was something to do with Ireland.. he used to get questioned by the police after bombings and come home like he got off scott free for whatever he was up to. Now my mother who died last year (thank god for her bless her to finally be free of the bastard) well she said one day when he had beaten her black and blue as it just came out then and only then that he had raped her when he met her and she got pregnant.. so pieces of the puzzle were coming together for me.. but there were more secrets to uncover and I knew it. Of course as a kid one knows that much about real politics and later in life I had a few co-incidences that made sense to me anyway about the story.. the rest of the pieces now made sense and only I now know who I am and why things now make sense for me as to him.. That is a personal part of my life but the reasons why I put the family tree on the web are nothing to do with my past…. It is to do with later events of a corrupt court case in 2008 and I thought “you fuck with me on certain levels I’ll fuck with you the same way with the same game, now who do I know?”… I was astonished when I lost my court case for trespass of both my art galleries in WC1 and amazed beyond belief when I got landed with £400,000 of legal costs for fighting for my rights in a court as an ordinary Jo.. so I thought ‘so it’s like that is it.. so.. ummm who do I know who is as powerful as you.. the courts…’ then I remembered my mum who always talked (but I took not much notice) about her mum’s sister Aunt Helen Lloyd and the Lloyds Bank and how she could not have kids and wanted to take my mum off my nanny and my mum used to say she should of and I suppose that was funny and perhaps that why she was taken to London to as she said ‘become a lady’!! So I got hold of her will from 2001 and then in turn her friends and benefactors and asked them for help as I’m not called yourdealingwithmenow.com for nothing.. I had worked tirelessly unrepresented for years in court and I knew I should have won but instead I was potentially ruined.. for life and so was NAYPIC (its in appeal at present as lovely pro bono unit people are finally helping me and guess what they are winning.. see I told people but no one got it… it’s very complex disrepair) so YES I used the tree as to be honest.. once I knew of it which was only last year thanks to a bit of detective work and the great internet facilities I thought wow.. how amazing so that makes me the living Great Grand Daughter of the King of England who set up the Royal Courts of Justice.. like I cared not.. but it was quite funny.. its just that suddenly I was not someone to be toyed with as much as an average Jo and perhaps that is why I am now getting help, I am not stupid about that, as it was my intention.. I also then could understand so much more about me and my past secret past. To be honest I would of used anything to get justice because I am not having two great businesses stolen off me and it is as simple as that. I own two art galleries FACT and although yes you are correct am currently in poverty… I have never been poor.. I am a professional and am being put down by an insurance company and a powerfully connected landlord.. over some really boring floods which they should accept liability over but which are not interesting to anyone but us.. however they did fuck with the wrong person… I am a very capable worker.. although I am getting on and just want to go back to work.. Someone said on a blog perhaps the art galleries were just a cover for NAYPIC.. well that is now out of the bag drrr.. of course they were. They were the seedling creations of an independent Youth Economy to fund an independent youth parliament… as stated on my websites http://www.youthparliament.co.uk, youthparliament.org.uk and http://www.yourdealingwithmenow.com In 1992 we were viciously closed down because we were investigating the case of Carol Cazier. I set up the first gallery in 2000 and the next in 2004. Because they were healing enterprises and not negative like all this stuff but also they were mine http://www.scarletmaguire.com and not funded by Government and my plan was that by setting up http://www.spaceshift.co.uk the second one, we could create a franchise for all young people to be involved and they could join my course ‘the founders 007′.. and we could do something about all this kind of stuff by simply setting up a law center for children and smash cases to bits with lawyers we would pay for and detectives etc.. I got broken into Oct 2008 and have been in court since.. that is my background.. so please don’t assume anything.. Now back to that story you all want to know about. It was a strange time for me and there was not only Carol’s death but two supposed suicides of our NAYPIC workers which I cried over for 5 years solid.. Our NAYPIC offices were broken into too and everything was taken swept even the furniture.. I recall being in a leaving care meeting or something of that nature around Whitehall or Downing Street working with NSPCC and NCB anyway what ever it was I came into the street of the NAYPIC office at Camden and saw a big white dustbin van clean as you like with no markings and there was a man who was throwing them into the dustbin cart van, with one of those (decorating type suits) white overall’s on and there was obviously a driver as he ran… when I shouted ‘oiiii’… to the left of the front of the van and the van pulled off fast.. I screamed after the van and I could see they had missed a few very tidy packed black bin bags lined up outside the doors but they got everything else.. I knew we were finished.. so I took the gun out of my bag (plastic magnum) and left it on the shelf of the office and thought ‘you bastards we’ll be back..’ NAYPIC was already in the media some well bad press shit.. I knew something was going on.. as I was really ill and not in my right mind it was surreal.. and could not understand why.. I was paranoid as fuck.. especially that day… hence the gun (a toy).. us workers were I now know being drugged I suspect.. weird shit was happening.. it’s all to do with that case. Now Carol got murdered by Dr Walker in my opinion because a girl told me the details who was at her house at the time about her injecting into her bum her insulin and they found the needle in her arm after the GP visited…and by chance he also was my family doctor and my dad used to always say he was a police doctor and he beat him up once in our living room in front of us kids and his sister too.. When I saw Dr Walker at the Inquest I said ‘hi I’m Mary Moss and my dad beat you up in our living room he looked shocked’.. until I said yeah he was a **** and then he relaxed as he thought I was on side (when actually I just couldn’t believe my eyes) .. Now there was 13 Newspapers in that court. 13. 13… I was giving evidence and said only what Carol had told me which was about all the MP’s involved and the child porn that was going on secretly and the children’s home kids taken there. You see Carol was in my opinion such an innocent.. you use instinct.. she was a woman who ran a guest house in Barnes when a few characters put it to her that she could run a gay guest house and make money as they had good connections and they also pleaded homophobia and this gave her a bit of a cause as she certainly wasn’t anti-gay and lobby had done well for gays at that time so she was all on board with the whole gay thing and business is business after all.. What is written in that file yes is mind blowing but trust me I did not write it.. I still don’t get it myself.. I was a worker who would get a call from a kid and sort out their problems by phoning up their social worker and just say my name Mary Moss.. and it would get sorted. I had 100’s of cases. That is because of all the TV appearances I would do and the exposures so social workers did not want trouble from me. So Carol walks into my office one day (Job: Development Officer for National Association of Young People In Care) as she knew of me and tells me her two children were taken off her and because they were made wards of court she could not take a case for them and for her to court to prove that she had never let them be abused before they were both 18 years old and there was three months to go.. She told me she was running a hotel had some fab parties, yes there were prominent people there but hey this was a nice suburb and that was her business .. but it was only on that night the police raided when she stupidly thought it was just gay bashing that her eyes were peeled open for years to come about what was going on under her noseI do believe her and I met her for about three months before she got killed.. she did not know before.. They put a (D notice )defence of the realm notice on publicity and 2 days later in the Daily Express.. the smoke screen.. brothel.. her kids abused etc and they had her kids as security… but that was not the case.. I only said verbally what I knew from what she said.. we had an adult Chris Fay advisor (not a worker!!) working with us about a number of other cases relating to his neck of the woods and.. yes there were links and yes I had other independent cases were there were direct links which is how you put it all together these things a bit like you are all trying to do now.. but Chris wrote that file and his friend John Oaks a journalist.. MI5 connections etc..however having worked in this arena its all bullshit.. people wanna bring down Government’s, sell news etc but really that is not my game.. yes the timing of it happened during my court case of 4 years and I wish instead it had of happened when NAYPIC was as it was from 2000-2008 well well posh and well strong and we would have been ready for this.. but hey that is life.. we’ll be back when we win and well if not then it is strange the timing of the Jimmy thing.. destiny is not quantifiable …. we worked in those dark days of Carol and all who got hurt over that to achieve children’s rights in this country and that still has not happened.. The police who contacted me were from the same area as who killed her.. so of course I was paranoid… They got a search warrant for my home on 7thJan 2013 and took what they needed and my computers but fair enough I see now.. I put it on the net for our safety as I was fed up of being chased during my case when I was very busy.. and exposures is not my thing anymore it’s too dangerous… I by chance got to meet the Fairbank team of 5 at my flat then and yeah they have good vibes so my instinct says co-operate perhaps things have changed… I do hope soI do not wish now to speak to the media even about my court case as I now have the best legal help.. I just got my laptop back tonight and this is all I want to say on the matter for now.. no one reported it then in the media out of 13 newspapers except the sunday sport.. now is much the same.. I pray we get a YOUTH PARLIAMENT… It is the only positive thing that can come out of this… 1100 young people voted for it before we got closed down in 1992 with headlines NAYPIC is dead long live NAYPIC….
http://legalaidcuts.blogspot.co.uk/2...-interest.html


Fantastic. Go Mary!

marny 11-01-2013 03:00 PM

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Fifty years of abuse by presenter Jimmy Savile is revealed by police, including a boy as young as eight and victims in 13 hospitals and a hospice.
Now they are all sitting back having a good laugh, i.e. Saviles likeminded Masters . This case has really shocked the country . So no lessons learnt or certainty that it won't happen again. The fact is next time it will be even worse than Savile if they are not prepared to reveal all that has happened and who is behind it. Their depraved minds will be thinking if we got away with this we can get away with anything. Be prepared.

tajas 11-01-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rationalenquirer (Post 1061248576)
Thanks Tajas,

I found this quote form earlier in the thread too.

Sir Jimmy first spotted the two bedroom bothy at the mouth of Glencoe when he was cycling around Scotland in 1944.
He said: "In the middle of the war I cycled from my home in Leeds through Scotland and down through Glencoe.
"The first time I came up in 1944 I got to Glencoe by the waterfall. I pulled in there.
"There were no cars or lorries and the silence was just something else.
"All I was used to was air raid sirens, bombs, the smell of burning and neighbours being blown to kingdom come....."


He was cycling round Scotland in 1944. I think I might be closing in on his war years, but its so hard to get the proof. My hunch is he was something to do with the SOE training at Arisaig House

Savile was cycling around the Glen Coe area in 1944, age 17.
He entered the Tour of Britain in 1951, age 24.

It takes "a lot" of road work to get in shape and "get your legs" for an event like that,
a great deal of time, pretty much seven days a week with most of each day, spent in
the saddle. He's listed in 1951 as a "Company Director, Leeds Olympic". Was Leeds Olympic
his company of his cycling club I wonder? It's a good job he was a 'company director' because
he wouldn't be in a wage earning position taking into account the amount of cycling he'd have
to do to reach the standard he did. As the man himself put it, back then we we're all "skint".

Racing bikes, then as now, cost a lot of money.

The 1951 Tour of Britain: http://www.tour-racing.co.uk/html/19...f_britain.html

Website for the 'Airedale' Olympic Cycling Club, not Leeds Olympic: http://www.airedale-olympic.org.uk/i...d=46&Itemid=57

(Cycling Clubs keep membership records, records of events, club runs, etc).

EDIT:

Answered my own question:

"His lengthy TV career had its roots in Calderdale, with one of his first stints on screen in
the 1947 film A Boy, A Girl And A Bike, about a fictional cycling club based in Hebden Bridge.

Sir Jimmy, then a racing cyclist with Leeds Olympic Club, appeared as an extra alongside
members of Halifax Road Racing Club".

"A Boy, A Girl And A Bike": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041203/

marny 11-01-2013 03:13 PM

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Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt: "We want to know that we have the right procedures in place"
In cloud cuckoo land, He knows what is going on. No procedures are going to stop this, only the truth.

beast 11-01-2013 03:18 PM

http://cyclingweekly.media.ipcdigita...vile-1950s.jpg

phantom 11-01-2013 03:28 PM

I came to the conclusion years ago......
 
The only way to really make a difference in helping get these nonces exposed is to run as an independent at you local elections and try and get into office.

We all know/knew the police investigations were going to be a sham. We cannot trust the old bill, politicians and the media to expose their own. And if they do get a chance to control what is published on the net, we are all fucked.

Going into the lions den, (Parliament) en mass, may be the only way to truly help protect children in care and expose the VIP paedophile rings.

There are many caring people on this thread who have done some incredible work exposing these nonces but at the end of the day, NOTHING will be done by TPTB to expose their own. Sure, we will get a few more has-beens and dead thrown our way but they will never expose those in power.

So I suggest, for those who may be interested, look into what is needed to run as an independent candidate in your area and then file the necessary paperwork needed to run.

Ickes site would be the perfect platform for those who would consider such a bold move because it is full of fantastic and many like-minded people. I am sure that anyone coming out on here to say they are running as an independent would get help in both donations and digging up any dirt on the people they are running against. I for one would be happy to donate cash and time digging the dirt.

I would seriously consider doing this myself but I gave up my residence in the UK and moved to Spain when our corrupt government illegally invaded Iraq and I have no intention of returning.

Anyone here brave enough to take on their local political representative?

discovery77 11-01-2013 03:31 PM

For Dopey

These pms are really pissing me off sorry cant reply Dopey. But yes think its madman's attack and her response. Also letter and reply to ykw. Didnt want to post because someones name mentioned.

dopey 11-01-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discovery77 (Post 1061249565)
For Dopey

These pms are really pissing me off sorry cant reply Dopey. But yes think its madman's attack and her response. Also letter and reply to ykw. Didnt want to post because someones name mentioned.

Thanks. Looking again I thought it was hers. One brave lady.

bellahunter 11-01-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by profnix (Post 1061249329)
Wasn't Camilla known as Gladys?? :eek:

There's also this:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ri...all_me_Gladys/
"Cardinal Heenan was known as Gladys"

He died in 1975 though. But was WAS Bishop of Leeds.

Yes. Wasn't he fred? Talking about chuck. He had a bracelet made for her before his wedding to queen of hearts

bellahunter 11-01-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evieee (Post 1061249386)
savile's nephew talking on sky news

What's he saying

sweetcheeks 11-01-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discovery77 (Post 1061249200)
+1


Ok, yes I see that there too. Perhaps Gladys was a name a lot of them used to further avoid detection?

It reads to me
'C**** J***** (NF) was regular ? - ''Gladys'' Kevin ? was his friend.

The first ? (word I cant read) could be mates, yes, and the surname possibly the latter ?. Does it begin with a capital P or an H and possibly end in ll. (Powell? Howell? too unclear to tell)

Kevin could even be Aevin also, just to open up possibilities, but likely Kevin.

I wonder if 'Gladys' was the name given to a guest of a guest? The hyphon could delineate between the CJ being Gladys or the Kevin being Gladys also, just to add to the confusion!!

EDIT now this could be going too far, but could there be anything also in the way the word is written? We know they love these little 'in jokes' - ie take away the 'g' you have got 'ladys' ?? together, g, ladys!!

You have probably already sorted but was wondering whether 'Gladys' always refers to a priest/bishop/cardinal, hence say Father Kevin? An earlier link someone posted suggested that a few religious people had fun womens nicknames, so maybe it was used for any religious person? I remember once reading that Savile sometimes turned up at parties with someone dressed as a priest/vicar and Cliff is now living with an ex one.

I think it is Powell and could possibly be Enoch as although not a member, he was a great supporter of The Monday Club?

bellahunter 11-01-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marlowe (Post 1061249280)
What do you expect from the police and the mainstream media, I can't understand why people are getting down, as if it wasn't obvious from the moment they said an investigation was in place that this would be the result. Isn't that what we've all been expecting and predicting for months? So why are people 'devastated' and 'despondent'? It's what the police and media are for - to serve the status quo.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Heck- even an old granny like me has 'got it'.

dentedarthur 11-01-2013 03:47 PM

there's a lot of shit to flush from the whole empire built on abuse
now then now then
who wants to go first?
ma'am?

juan juan 11-01-2013 03:54 PM

Ok,Savile...the supposed mining years and back accident and...the bulging eyes.

Yes,the bulging eyes.

It occured to me that the only other person i recall with similiar eyes is Johnny Rotten/ Lydon of Sex Pistols fame.

He accounts for his bulging eyes/stare as a result of injections nurses gave him when in hospital for a year in his teens with spinal meningitis.

I wonder if Savile had similiar injections...or maybe the military got hold of him in hospital for sorta universal soldier type experiments /MK Ultra stuff?

Just sayin like...

welshwitch 11-01-2013 03:55 PM

Political perverts in great numbers
 
Contemporaneous examples of the morals of the MP's during 1970's 80's and beyond.

Cynthia Payne ran dinner parties where sex was for after’s, the rich and famous all sat together for dinner with the most beautiful girls, Cynthia had one rule “no queers and no kids" painted on hardboard and hung in the kitchen.

Payne first came to national attention in 1978 when police raided her home and found a sex party was in progress. Elderly men paid in Luncheon Vouchers to dress up in lingerie and be spanked by sexy young women, and when the case came to trial in 1980, she was sentenced to eighteen months in prison, reduced to a fine and six months on appeal, she served four months in Holloway prison.

In 1986, the police raided her home again, this time during a "special party" she was hosting after shooting the film of her life had been completed. Although she was acquitted on this occasion, the resulting court case in 1987 made headlines for several weeks with lurid tales, some details of which were in her book, ‘Entertaining at Home’. The court case ended her career as a party giver.

Lyndie St Claire was a brothel madame who had a printed full colour catalogue of the most extraordinary beautiful girls for men to look through and choose, some were out of work actresses who were glad to be able to feed their families during filming. A very successful professional dominatrix and madam, she had printed brothel tokens that could be given as Christmas and birthday gifts from everything from a spanking to being tortured, and in 1991 it emerged St Clair was renting Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont basement flat in Notting Hill, she claimed that 252 Members of Parliament had been on her books, and she stood for parliament several times with her "corrective party" giving free spankings.
http://thetruthnews.info/spank_account.html

Quote:

Cyril Smith first went to MP Jack Mcann to use his masonic contacts to get the charges dropped or reduced, Jack we are informed said to Cyril go to the chief Constable and make a clean breast of everything which to his credit he did.

The police referred Sir Cyril to the London Psychiatrist Joyce Mc'Dougal who had helped re-align the sexualities of gays and she helped him come to terms with his sexual compulsions. The Complaints concerning the Cambridge Boys hostel in Castlemere Street, Rochdale, Barnardos homes and a care home in Leeds brought forth information which led to reports on several men staying on various files, in those days police and intel files were all manual card indexed under surnames, a separate draw held the cards marked "P" for known perverts was quite extensive and held some surprising names, this file still exists and holds many well-known figures. Rumour had it that Thomas Hamilton the Dunblane child killer's name was also on it but I can’t confirm this, what is intriguing however is that all the names are linked by a male swimming coach, who also taught football to young lads., and famous DJ Jimmy Savile.
http://thetruthnews.info/big_cyril_in_wonderland.html

Big hugs and energy to everyone - I am still shuffling through sh1t in the background - trying to condense info and looking for some crucial links.

As I try and keep up with all the updates I am heartened by the fact that everyone can see the coverups. What TPTB CANNOT do is take away the knowledge that we have all gleaned.

WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE
WE KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
THEY HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY
THEY THEREFORE HAVE NO POWER

The one thing they crave most has just been vapourised. :D

obliette 11-01-2013 04:00 PM

Thehuntergatherer - trying to reply to your PM but getting message that you not receiving them or they are blocked?

its_so_simple 11-01-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlowe (Post 1061249280)
What do you expect from the police and the mainstream media, I can't understand why people are getting down, as if it wasn't obvious from the moment they said an investigation was in place that this would be the result. Isn't that what we've all been expecting and predicting for months? So why are people 'devastated' and 'despondent'? It's what the police and media are for - to serve the status quo.

Exactly. Surely everyone on this forum knows that the police and MSM are not going to change the way they do things, why should they?

I do wonder, what the aims of this thread are and no I AM NOT A TROLL! So many amazing people are putting in hours of their time and an enormous amount of emotional energy and uncovering an incredible amount of information but what is going to be done with it? Who is going to take it forward? In which way will it change our world? How can it be used to make this place we live in brighter, cleaner and happier for the children?

Oh dear, I guess I am going to get moaned at now but I am truly trying to be positive. Tomorrow, the next day and JS will no longer be on the news. How are we going to break into/through this barrier between us and them. I don't know the answer but I just feel we need to consider our options.

bellahunter 11-01-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan juan (Post 1061249604)
Ok,Savile...the supposed mining years and back accident and...the bulging eyes.

Yes,the bulging eyes.

It occured to me that the only other person i recall with similiar eyes is Johnny Rotten/ Lydon of Sex Pistols fame.

He accounts for his bulging eyes/stare as a result of injections nurses gave him when in hospital for a year in his teens with spinal meningitis.

I wonder if Savile had similiar injections...or maybe the military got hold of him in hospital for sorta universal soldier type experiments /MK Ultra stuff?

Just sayin like...


Marty Feldman ?

bellahunter 11-01-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by its_so_simple (Post 1061249627)
Exactly. Surely everyone on this forum knows that the police and MSM are not going to change the way they do things, why should they?

I do wonder, what the aims of this thread are and no I AM NOT A TROLL! So many amazing people are putting in hours of their time and an enormous amount of emotional energy and uncovering an incredible amount of information but what is going to be done with it? Who is going to take it forward? In which way will it change our world? How can it be used to make this place we live in brighter, cleaner and happier for the children?

Oh dear, I guess I am going to get moaned at now but I am truly trying to be positive. Tomorrow, the next day and JS will no longer be on the news. How are we going to break into/through this barrier between us and them. I don't know the answer but I just feel we need to consider our options.

Do you honestly think David Icke, Bill Maloney, Brian Gerrish, Chris Spivey and other warriors are not going to continue to hold their ( nonces and those covering up) feet to the fire.

We need to stay positive , get behind them, keep on showing our support make this a positive place for the newbies to come along learn and give their support to us.

Enough whingeing. . Heck it's not even a setback. It was only to be expected.

All together now.........

Back to work:-)

juan juan 11-01-2013 04:15 PM

Bellahunter,

Yes..lol..Marty Feldman indeed...i actually thought of him as soon as id hit submit post.

dolores1 11-01-2013 04:19 PM

D Notices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beast (Post 1061249494)
If they were at all serious they could lift all D notices and let us know who they are.

Remember the SODs have kept extending the D notice on Jack the Ripper for over a century!:mad:

D

56cheffy 11-01-2013 04:24 PM

Vine on SoVILE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_bear (Post 1061249184)
Everyone needs to listen to Jeremy Vine. Incredible stuff.

I should say now that I've lost all hope. Sorry team.

Listen to it here


EDIT:

DON'T BOTHER.....Waste of time

dolores1 11-01-2013 04:34 PM

Sorry!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dopey (Post 1061249514)
Fantastic. Go Mary!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery77
gonna post this all, too important not to.

it follows an unkindly and unfair go at her. Shes also included links to her projects.
Why do some people insist on being so cynical - did this person lack sensitivity or does he have an agenda?!

Mary Moss
January 10, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Lets get this straight. I am not deluded I was in care due to my father sexually abusing me at 12 (never been prosecuted even recently tried and police have no report despite 13 court cases in 1981) now all my life I never understood why he could do that to me and I know it was probably because I was born hard.. and no matter how much he beat me and my family and torchered my mother I never cried and that got him and he had to do something to me extra to fuck me up.


Still it did not answer why.. he hated us so much as he is not mad but a very clever man and he was very suspicious as a character and very powerful in whatever he was involved with which was something to do with Ireland..


He used to get questioned by the police after bombings and come home like he got off scott free for whatever he was up to. Now my mother who died last year (thank god for her bless her to finally be free of the bastard) well she said one day when he had beaten her black and blue as it just came out then and only then that he had raped her when he met her and she got pregnant.. so pieces of the puzzle were coming together for me.. but there were more secrets to uncover and I knew it.


Of course as a kid one knows that much about real politics and later in life I had a few co-incidences that made sense to me anyway about the story.. the rest of the pieces now made sense and only I now know who I am and why things now make sense for me as to him.. That is a personal part of my life but the reasons why I put the family tree on the web are nothing to do with my past…. It is to do with later events of a corrupt court case in 2008 and I thought “you fuck with me on certain levels I’ll fuck with you the same way with the same game, now who do I know?”…


I was astonished when I lost my court case for trespass of both my art galleries in WC1 and amazed beyond belief when I got landed with £400,000 of legal costs for fighting for my rights in a court as an ordinary Jo.. so I thought ‘so it’s like that is it.. so.. ummm who do I know who is as powerful as you.. the courts…’ then I remembered my mum who always talked (but I took not much notice) about her mum’s sister Aunt Helen Lloyd and the Lloyds Bank and how she could not have kids and wanted to take my mum off my nanny and my mum used to say she should of and I suppose that was funny and perhaps that why she was taken to London to as she said ‘become a lady’!!


So I got hold of her will from 2001 and then in turn her friends and benefactors and asked them for help as I’m not called yourdealingwithmenow.com for nothing..


I had worked tirelessly unrepresented for years in court and I knew I should have won but instead I was potentially ruined.. for life and so was NAYPIC (its in appeal at present as lovely pro bono unit people are finally helping me and guess what they are winning.. see I told people but no one got it… it’s very complex disrepair) so YES I used the tree as to be honest..


Once I knew of it which was only last year thanks to a bit of detective work and the great internet facilities I thought wow.. how amazing so that makes me the living Great Grand Daughter of the King of England who set up the Royal Courts of Justice.. like I cared not.. but it was quite funny.. its just that suddenly I was not someone to be toyed with as much as an average Jo and perhaps that is why I am now getting help, I am not stupid about that, as it was my intention..


I also then could understand so much more about me and my past secret past. To be honest I would of used anything to get justice because I am not having two great businesses stolen off me and it is as simple as that. I own two art galleries FACT and although yes you are correct am currently in poverty… I have never been poor..


I am a professional and am being put down by an insurance company and a powerfully connected landlord.. over some really boring floods which they should accept liability over but which are not interesting to anyone but us.. however they did fuck with the wrong person… I am a very capable worker.. although I am getting on and just want to go back to work..


Someone said on a blog perhaps the art galleries were just a cover for NAYPIC.. well that is now out of the bag drrr.. of course they were. They were the seedling creations of an independent Youth Economy to fund an independent youth parliament… as stated on my websites http://www.youthparliament.co.uk, youthparliament.org.uk and http://www.yourdealingwithmenow.com


In 1992 we were viciously closed down because we were investigating the case of Carol Cazier. I set up the first gallery in 2000 and the next in 2004. Because they were healing enterprises and not negative like all this stuff but also they were mine http://www.scarletmaguire.com and not funded by Government and my plan was that by setting up http://www.spaceshift.co.uk the second one, we could create a franchise for all young people to be involved and they could join my course ‘the founders 007′.. and we could do something about all this kind of stuff by simply setting up a law center for children and smash cases to bits with lawyers we would pay for and detectives etc..


I got broken into Oct 2008 and have been in court since.. that is my background.. so please don’t assume anything..


Now back to that story you all want to know about. It was a strange time for me and there was not only Carol’s death but two supposed suicides of our NAYPIC workers which I cried over for 5 years solid..


Our NAYPIC offices were broken into too and everything was taken swept even the furniture.. I recall being in a leaving care meeting or something of that nature around Whitehall or Downing Street working with NSPCC and NCB anyway what ever it was I came into the street of the NAYPIC office at Camden and saw a big white dustbin van clean as you like with no markings and there was a man who was throwing them into the dustbin cart van, with one of those (decorating type suits) white overall’s on and there was obviously a driver as he ran… when I shouted ‘oiiii’… to the left of the front of the van and the van pulled off fast.. I screamed after the van and I could see they had missed a few very tidy packed black bin bags lined up outside the doors but they got everything else..


I knew we were finished.. so I took the gun out of my bag (plastic magnum) and left it on the shelf of the office and thought ‘you bastards we’ll be back..’ NAYPIC was already in the media some well bad press shit..


I knew something was going on.. as I was really ill and not in my right mind it was surreal.. and could not understand why.. I was paranoid as fuck.. especially that day… hence the gun (a toy).. us workers were I now know being drugged I suspect.. weird shit was happening.. it’s all to do with that case.


Now Carol got murdered by Dr Walker in my opinion because a girl told me the details who was at her house at the time about her injecting into her bum her insulin and they found the needle in her arm after the GP visited…and by chance he also was my family doctor and my dad used to always say he was a police doctor and he beat him up once in our living room in front of us kids and his sister too..


When I saw Dr Walker at the Inquest I said ‘hi I’m Mary Moss and my dad beat you up in our living room he looked shocked’.. until I said yeah he was a **** and then he relaxed as he thought I was on side (when actually I just couldn’t believe my eyes) ..


Now there was 13 Newspapers in that court. 13. 13… I was giving evidence and said only what Carol had told me which was about all the MP’s involved and the child porn that was going on secretly and the children’s home kids taken there.


You see Carol was in my opinion such an innocent.. you use instinct.. she was a woman who ran a guest house in Barnes when a few characters put it to her that she could run a gay guest house and make money as they had good connections and they also pleaded homophobia and this gave her a bit of a cause as she certainly wasn’t anti-gay and lobby had done well for gays at that time so she was all on board with the whole gay thing and business is business after all..


What is written in that file yes is mind blowing but trust me I did not write it.. I still don’t get it myself.. I was a worker who would get a call from a kid and sort out their problems by phoning up their social worker and just say my name Mary Moss.. and it would get sorted.


I had 100’s of cases. That is because of all the TV appearances I would do and the exposures so social workers did not want trouble from me. So Carol walks into my office one day (Job: Development Officer for National Association of Young People In Care) as she knew of me and tells me her two children were taken off her and because they were made wards of court she could not take a case for them and for her to court to prove that she had never let them be abused before they were both 18 years old and there was three months to go..


She told me she was running a hotel had some fab parties, yes there were prominent people there but hey this was a nice suburb and that was her business .. but it was only on that night the police raided when she stupidly thought it was just gay bashing that her eyes were peeled open for years to come about what was going on under her nose… I do believe her and I met her for about three months before she got killed.. she did not know before..


They put a (D notice )defence of the realm notice on publicity and 2 days later in the Daily Express.. the smoke screen.. brothel.. her kids abused etc and they had her kids as security… but that was not the case.. I only said verbally what I knew from what she said.. we had an adult Chris Fay advisor (not a worker!!) working with us about a number of other cases relating to his neck of the woods and..


yes there were links and yes I had other independent cases were there were direct links which is how you put it all together these things a bit like you are all trying to do now.. but Chris wrote that file and his friend John Oaks a journalist.. MI5 connections etc..however having worked in this arena its all bullshit.. people wanna bring down Government’s, sell news etc but really that is not my game..


yes the timing of it happened during my court case of 4 years and I wish instead it had of happened when NAYPIC was as it was from 2000-2008 well well posh and well strong and we would have been ready for this.. but hey that is life.. we’ll be back when we win and well if not then it is strange the timing of the Jimmy thing.. destiny is not quantifiable …. we worked in those dark days of Carol and all who got hurt over that to achieve children’s rights in this country and that still has not happened..


The police who contacted me were from the same area as who killed her.. so of course I was paranoid… They got a search warrant for my home on 7th Jan 2013 and took what they needed and my computers but fair enough I see now.. I put it on the net for our safety as I was fed up of being chased during my case when I was very busy.. and exposures is not my thing anymore it’s too dangerous… I by chance got to meet the Fairbank team of 5 at my flat then and yeah they have good vibes so my instinct says co-operate perhaps things have changed… I do hope so… I do not wish now to speak to the media even about my court case as I now have the best legal help..


I just got my laptop back tonight and this is all I want to say on the matter for now.. no one reported it then in the media out of 13 newspapers except the sunday sport.. now is much the same.. I pray we get a YOUTH PARLIAMENT… It is the only positive thing that can come out of this… 1100 young people voted for it before we got closed down in 1992 with headlines NAYPIC is dead long live NAYPIC….
http://legalaidcuts.blogspot.co.uk/2...-interest.html



I hope you don't mind, I wanted to be able to read this?

D.

discovery77 11-01-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv evreone (Post 1061249391)
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - We No Who U R (Lyric Video) - YouTube


Apologies for not posting in the thread lately. I was attacked by a wave of negativity around x-mas. Especially after the Queens speech, for some reason i thought there may have been at least some brief allusion to recent events (would have been a great opp to highlight abuse, as someone has said to me though, they won't make any statement connecting themselves as most people don't even realize how deep the links go and that would bring it into their minds, so they are better off just not mentioning it). I had to go and lie down and ended up getting a bit upset before a charge of energy shot through me, screaming that we can't let this die again.

To counter the negativity i've had to keep keeping this is mind. I've felt an urgent need to go and lay out some real justice. I'm ready to hunt these people down. There are thousands of kids here and millions worldwide who are being abused RIGHT NOW, i think x-mas/new year brought it all home. I'm sick of sitting around, researching all this stuff is great, and i'm incredibly thankful there are so many people who care enough to spend endless hours and days collating the info, thank you sincerely to everyone, but surely there comes a point when enough is enough!

We know who they are, we know what they have done, we know where they live.

We have to respond in kind with some action of our own. There is going to come a time when we have to put up or shut up. We can't let this opportunity pass us by. 2013 is a huge year for our future. I would be eternally regretful if we let this slip without showing our hand. Yet. I have had to come to terms (again) with the fact that these things do take time and we have to be patient. We can't stop the researching and establishing of the facts. We have to keep up all this good work in connecting the dots, and hopefully some day index all that we have learnt and get it out to the mainstream.

Thanks again to everybody who've spent countless hours of their time to keep the thread and info going.

Especially in light of Anders passing. Damn, that hit me like a ton of bricks. It brought me right down to a new low but has also helped re-invigorate my desire and positivity again. I have so much anger and emotion burning through my body at present, i'm ready to explode. Its given me courage to get out there and network locally and keep putting my name out there like he did. I've had enough of negativity, i've had enough of fear. I'm willing to give my life in the fight. I'm ready for the war. Fuck everything else. We might be losing battles but this is a long game and one that won't end until we decide it. The ball is in our court now. Its up to us to stand up and be counted.

There are so many people depending on us, we can't let them down. Not anymore....

Stay POSITIVE people. Keep the FAITH. Spread the word, spread the LOVE. Never stop BELIEVING. The truth WILL out.....

Well put. Sorry to hear you were feeling low, I'd noticed you hadn't been around for a while. It's happened or will happen I'd say to everyone on the thread at some point or other! There's a natural kind of pattern to it, a rhythm, and is to be expected, and then ultimately conquered. The slow, methodical digging may sometimes seem useless, pointless, monotonous, but believe me it's not! It's a cumulative effect, ever swelling, ever reaching a crescendo, connecting dots that weren't understood before; just look back through the thread to be elucidated on so many new things also. We are all busy in the background even if it's quiet on here, for a few hours, or even days at a time, whenever time allows. This thing isnt winding down!

Ride out the natural dips, then become positive again and let the energy of the thread and (good :eek:) common purpose reinvigorate you.
TEAM ANDERS!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantthetruth (Post 1061249418)

Yes, thanks!:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshwitch (Post 1061249609)
Contemporaneous examples of the morals of the MP's during 1970's 80's and beyond.

Cynthia Payne ran dinner parties where sex was for after’s, the rich and famous all sat together for dinner with the most beautiful girls, Cynthia had one rule “no queers and no kids" painted on hardboard and hung in the kitchen.

Payne first came to national attention in 1978 when police raided her home and found a sex party was in progress. Elderly men paid in Luncheon Vouchers to dress up in lingerie and be spanked by sexy young women, and when the case came to trial in 1980, she was sentenced to eighteen months in prison, reduced to a fine and six months on appeal, she served four months in Holloway prison.

In 1986, the police raided her home again, this time during a "special party" she was hosting after shooting the film of her life had been completed. Although she was acquitted on this occasion, the resulting court case in 1987 made headlines for several weeks with lurid tales, some details of which were in her book, ‘Entertaining at Home’. The court case ended her career as a party giver.

Lyndie St Claire was a brothel madame who had a printed full colour catalogue of the most extraordinary beautiful girls for men to look through and choose, some were out of work actresses who were glad to be able to feed their families during filming. A very successful professional dominatrix and madam, she had printed brothel tokens that could be given as Christmas and birthday gifts from everything from a spanking to being tortured, and in 1991 it emerged St Clair was renting Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont basement flat in Notting Hill, she claimed that 252 Members of Parliament had been on her books, and she stood for parliament several times with her "corrective party" giving free spankings.
http://thetruthnews.info/spank_account.html


http://thetruthnews.info/big_cyril_in_wonderland.html

Big hugs and energy to everyone - I am still shuffling through sh1t in the background - trying to condense info and looking for some crucial links.

As I try and keep up with all the updates I am heartened by the fact that everyone can see the coverups. What TPTB CANNOT do is take away the knowledge that we have all gleaned.

WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE
WE KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
THEY HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY
THEY THEREFORE HAVE NO POWER

The one thing they crave most has just been vapourised. :D

''The police referred Sir Cyril to the London Psychiatrist Joyce Mc'Dougal who had helped re-align the sexualities of gays and she helped him come to terms with his sexual compulsions. The Complaints concerning the Cambridge Boys hostel in Castlemere Street, Rochdale, Barnardos homes and a care home in Leeds brought forth information which led to reports on several men staying on various files, in those days police and intel files were all manual card indexed under surnames, a separate draw held the cards marked "P" for known perverts was quite extensive and held some surprising names, this file still exists and holds many well-known figures. Rumour had it that Thomas Hamilton the Dunblane child killer's name was also on it but I can’t confirm this, what is intriguing however is that all the names are linked by a male swimming coach, who also taught football to young lads., and famous DJ Jimmy Savile.''
Thats interesting! All linked to Savile and swimming coach!
Was there a Sue Ryder in Leeds were Savile abused on the list?


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