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flamesong 14-10-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by anders7777 (Post 1061083949)
TBH I'm not surprised whatsoever...

The only surprise for me is how many people are surprised.

If I was aware of it, and I had no direct or indirect contact with Savile, why is it that so many people who knew him so well are saying they knew nothing?

I actually feel a little sorry for all the cognitively dissonant or'nary folk who have had their illusions shattered. But sadly, they won't be any less gullible because they will be still devouring the same shite being churned out à la carte.

tony roma 14-10-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jubbly (Post 1061084270)
What do you think happened with Gareth Williams? Is it linked to this Savile stuff?

many of the d notices under blair are for national security reasons,defence of the realm bullshit.
mad muslims,times of war all the usual churchill bullshit.
that is the cover.
the man in a bag was a top encryption specialist a computer systems wizz.
international trading of children involving private planes.
kid rendition if you will.
jersey,scotland,belgium and places like camp bondsteel for starters.
since we are in a media sham i love the 70s moment top trump trading with kids.
jersey and scotland are the weakest links


d notice has become the cloak for paedo crimes.
the d notice and dando
the d notice and the pimlico bag man

tony roma 14-10-2012 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=trux newman;1061084279]I doubt there's any point in cadaver dogs. The found traces of Maddy in her parent's hire car but it was decided it was a mistake.

Then in the Tia Sharp case they 'missed' a rotting corpse in a loft in the height of summer.


tia sharp case involved the police : )
that case is suspect.
mccann case well let us just say the dad is a mason and friends with d notice gordon brown

it is now a given that the police have rotten coppers from the top down.
how about a theory that many of the cases of the missing and the dead are part of a bigger plot.
the lone nutters maybe a few are drugged up innocents.
check out the drug the devils breath exotic and perfect.
perfect for giving to a patsy
perfect for gaining consent of a victim,keeping them conscious instead of having to knock them out
10 hours later the victim does not remember a thing perfect

the energy built around the country when a child goes missing.
energy harvesting was even mentioned in official olympics press reports.

the dogs seem to work well.
the fact they have not been to glencoe and jimmys for sale leeds penthouse speaks volumes

lcp. 14-10-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vpfadioa (Post 1061084295)
Visitors to Ronnie Kray that I saw;

Gary & Martin Kemp - ex Spandau Ballet and played Ronnie & Reggie in the film, never saw them again after its release.

Billy Murray - ex bill actor

Tony Lambrianou - ex Kray gang member,

and

Barbara Windsor, never saw her, but many staff did.



Peter Sutcliffe;

Lord Longford

Sonia Sutcliffe, tried to remain incognito and went ape shit if his name was mentioned when she was around other visitors.

And loads of women 'pen friends' who used to visit.

Visting rules were pretty lax until 1991 and the James Saunders escape, basically you turned up, asked to see the patient, if they knew you. You got in.

After an almighty balls up following Saunders recapure, the rules were tightened up and secure entry computer system was installed. After this the patients doctor said who got in and who didn't.

Vile, could of course bypass this to bring anyone as a personal visitor into the hospital by signing them in as as official visitor at main reception.

I will say however, that I never saw any children other than patients visitors children, anywhere but the Central Hall, like I said in earlier post, this was the most heavily watched area and there was no chance of anyone slipping off.

As for why these people visit, my thoughts are they got their kicks from it.

Maybe they could brag to their friends they went to Broadmoor, who knows?

I can say after dealing with some of them, there not all locked up.

Did you have any contact with Robert Napper?
That dreadful double killing of a mother and daughter in London had a ritualistic undertone to it.

invisibleman 14-10-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vpfadioa (Post 1061084295)
Visitors to Ronnie Kray that I saw;

Gary & Martin Kemp - ex Spandau Ballet and played Ronnie & Reggie in the film, never saw them again after its release.

Billy Murray - ex bill actor

Tony Lambrianou - ex Kray gang member,

and

Barbara Windsor, never saw her, but many staff did.



Peter Sutcliffe;

Lord Longford

Sonia Sutcliffe, tried to remain incognito and went ape shit if his name was mentioned when she was around other visitors.

And loads of women 'pen friends' who used to visit.

Visting rules were pretty lax until 1991 and the James Saunders escape, basically you turned up, asked to see the patient, if they knew you. You got in.

After an almighty balls up following Saunders recapure, the rules were tightened up and secure entry computer system was installed. After this the patients doctor said who got in and who didn't.

Vile, could of course bypass this to bring anyone as a personal visitor into the hospital by signing them in as as official visitor at main reception.

I will say however, that I never saw any children other than patients visitors children, anywhere but the Central Hall, like I said in earlier post, this was the most heavily watched area and there was no chance of anyone slipping off.

As for why these people visit, my thoughts are they got their kicks from it.

Maybe they could brag to their friends they went to Broadmoor, who knows?

I can say after dealing with some of them, there not all locked up.


MICKY GLUCKSTAD was a friend of The Krays he also got a 9 year sentence for child rape and bestiality .His autobiography has just been released by John Blake Publishing.
see my first post on the forum for the news article .

mephistopheles 14-10-2012 06:57 PM

more on sa-vile's fondness for the younger members of society in the 1960s....

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-32025593/

cont 14-10-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tony roma (Post 1061084343)
the dogs seem to work well.
the fact they have not been to glencoe and jimmys for sale leeds penthouse speaks volumes

Surely a potential buyer can request them before handing over cash... or it's something the estate agent ought to do.

given what we now know about Savile's history as a child predator, you'd thought getting the all clear would add a % on its value.

most people don't want to live in a property where there's been a murder, or at a property police might have to revisit later and tear through looking for bodies.

that said, was it Saville's MO to take kids back to his own property?

most of the stories concern him abusing opportunistically and fairly briefly, whilst out and about in his mobile home, rolls, landrover, in a dressing room, on hospital ward, at kids home.

vpfadioa 14-10-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by leather clad prowler (Post 1061084347)
Did you have any contact with Robert Napper?
That dreadful double killing of a mother and daughter in London had a ritualistic undertone to it.

No sorry, I was long gone from there by the time he was admitted. I left at the end of 1991, still have couple of mates who worked there until about 5 years ago, then they had enough and got out.

lcp. 14-10-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vpfadioa (Post 1061084361)
No sorry, I was long gone from there by the time he was admitted. I left at the end of 1991, still have couple of mates who worked there until about 5 years ago, then they had enough and got out.

Ok, thanks.

vesper_lynd 14-10-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frase (Post 1061084258)
Yeah been thinking the same....
I do notice that Murdoch and his outlets along with the Mail are going right after BBC...
Which I'm all for, problem is I hate Murdoch press too. All complicit in cover ups of 9/11 and 7/7 and beating drum for war and accelerating Orwellian hell this country now,resembles. I'm sitting back watching the show....
This is a big fucking can of worms though.
Anyone see Have I got news for you on Friday?
Trying to see them work their way out of it was really something...
Claire balding made a bizarre "joke" about Muslims flying into towers too....helping to cement the MYTH that Muslims carried out 9/11.
I'm finding all of this q exciting.
What it does illustrate is that conspiracies and cover ups are very real indeed....Hillsborough and now this....


I get that feeling too - something is happening, like two Titans going to war; News International and the BBC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-hysteria.html

Sir Michael Lyon's criticises 'hysteria' over Savile!!? Is he kidding?

And when the phone hacking scandal came to light, Delingpole wrote the following about the BBC being more dangerous than Murdoch:

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/...-evil-bbc.html

Remember when Rebekah Brooks said at the Levenson inquiry last year that something 'big' would come out in a year? Looks like her boss wants to attempt to destroy the BBC, Police Force, NHS etc .......but why? Murdoch ain't exactly the 'good guy'.

Old World Order vs New World Order? Business as usual, just a different century? :confused:

white horse 14-10-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flamesong (Post 1061084311)
The only surprise for me is how many people are surprised.

If I was aware of it, and I had no direct or indirect contact with Savile, why is it that so many people who knew him so well are saying they knew nothing?

I actually feel a little sorry for all the cognitively dissonant or'nary folk who have had their illusions shattered. But sadly, they won't be any less gullible because they will be still devouring the same shite being churned out à la carte.

My surprise is at the flood from the press, I thought it would be harder to get some of this out and linked.

I am fully aware of the template for using children in rituals, and how the state child care system is used to feed that; here, in Europe, the US, probably everywhere.

I was surprised at how far the press was taking it - but surprised also at how far the punblic were taking it too, there seems to be a trend that is pushing the boundaries of credulity in the public eye. Though yes, there is a large amount of dissonance and denial, but we are seeing in the public domain dots being brought up all over the place; even if 'the public' will not acknowledge the true horror, many of them may surprise you in how far they have come in their preparedness to believe that basically the elites are upto no good and they are not 'governing' for our benefit.

I think there are A LOT of people out there now who are starting to suspect that there is something going on here that is beyond a few pervs indulging themselves, but actually invovles or social betters.

Ted Heath and Kenneth Clarke's names becoming linked to this has helped.

It is when this is linked to the Windors in the public domain AND THAT BEGINS to stick will be a watershed. Bit like Jack the Ripper - it is pretty much public domain knowledge that that was a royal link.

This link needs to be made - which is why the palace are being silent.

Hey Charles, how do you feel about your best mate?

I was surprised as to how far Vile's tentacles had reach though, he was everywhere - which is why I see him as a ring master, a master of ceremonies.

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Originally Posted by jubbly (Post 1061084293)
Interesting that sutcliffe commited his crimes in manchester and west yorkshire. Hindley and Brady snatched children from manchester and buried them in yorkshire.

Then Savile befriends sutcliffe and supposedly brady too. And then Savile's mate longford befriends hindley and tries to get her released.

All very odd.

Do you really think they will link him to murder? I am not sure they will.

I agree, I don't think they will. But if we keep the pressure up and make some concrete links with Haut de la Garenne then SaVile's name will become linked to child torture and murder; after all even though the investigation fell down, and no direct links to murder has been made, it is public knowledge now as part of the HDLG that they used dungeons/cellars for the abuse rape and torture of children.

These are the links we need to keep up.

Get the people mulling over and making their own links and joining their own dots, they don't have to have everything signed/sealed/delivered.

in the last fortnight the en mass have seen 'their idol' (tho many did hate him) go from having a couple of groupies in his dressing room, to being linked to all the great and the good and labelled as possibly the most dangerous and prolific sex offender ever.

That is now common knowledge.

When it becomes common knowledge that he was a regular at HDLG; and what was happening there; that children were tortured and raped in the dungeons... it is much easier now for the lay to make that association with a household figure like Vile than it was 1 month ago which would have been met with incredulity.

THEN when they start to hear of how many children disappeared into a HDLG black hole... then 'child murder' will bubble to the surface without the need of tabloid stories or direct 'evidence'. I mean, we've come so far on this belief trail, surely you are still not reluctant to believe that murder was beyond them? After you have accepted rape torture and kidnap...

Jersey will become a hub; the Royals are linked to it. Was Heath ever linked to it?

Anders is right; we need a separate thread to keep a short and concise tally of these FACTS that are know only; names, dates, places, associations etc...

Then we can point out in short concise logical steps the linkages between the people involved and the locations; cos its the same names adn palces popping up all the time!

Anyone got a big whiteboard?!?! :rolleyes:

tony roma 14-10-2012 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=cont;1061084357]Surely a potential buyer can request them before handing over cash... or it's something the estate agent ought to do.

given what we now know about Savile's history as a child predator, you'd thought getting the all clear would add a % on its value.

most people don't want to live in a property where there's been a murder, or at a property police might have to revisit later and tear through looking for bodies.

that said, was it Saville's MO to take kids back to his own property?




Meanwhile, Savile’s flat in the Roundhay suburb of Leeds is still up for sale for £325,000. It is in need of substantial redevelopment and has a private elevator which takes visitors straight up to his penthouse.

A neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: “I haven’t seen any police knocking around but it’s only a matter of time before they’re in there.



it's a mystery, ohh it's an mi5 mystery i'm still searching for a masonic clue.
it's a d notice mystery ohhh yerrr



WHO CLEARED OUT SAVILES PROPERTIES.
12-14 PROPERTIES INCLUDING NHS AND PRISON SERVICE HOMES NEED TO BE TREATED AS CRIME SCENES.
BUT NO
YOU SEE THE MET ARE BUSY CHASING 1970s INTERNATIONAL STARS JIMMY KRANKEL,BOBBY COCKLES,TOMMY TOSSPOT,DICKY DIRTBOX,GARY HAIRPIECE.
a met spokesman said because these crimes are from another century,another era investigations are going slow.
we have located garys hairpiece but unfortunately mr glitter was not beneath it.
be assured the quest goes on.
Cmmdr Peter Spindler of scotland yard said medicated peeples of engerlund look into my eyes you are feeling sheepy be still and calm.
we will not rest until this case has been whitewashed and sealed behind another dunblane style 100 year d notice.
the d notice and case files and records will be buried at 45 degrees and covered in concrete as per standard masonic law.

Cmmdr Peter Spindler also said it is way to early in the investigation for him to even think about receiving a knighthood or obe
and he urged the press not to speculate on his satanic ascension until the 1970s nonces dicky dirtbox,gary hairpiece and bob cockles are rotting in a childline ,nspcc nonce facility

white horse 14-10-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frase (Post 1061084258)
Yeah been thinking the same....
I do notice that Murdoch and his outlets along with the Mail are going right after BBC...
Which I'm all for, problem is I hate Murdoch press too. All complicit in cover ups of 9/11 and 7/7 and beating drum for war and accelerating Orwellian hell this country now,resembles. I'm sitting back watching the show....
This is a big fucking can of worms though.
Anyone see Have I got news for you on Friday?
Trying to see them work their way out of it was really something...
Claire balding made a bizarre "joke" about Muslims flying into towers too....helping to cement the MYTH that Muslims carried out 9/11.
I'm finding all of this q exciting.
What it does illustrate is that conspiracies and cover ups are very real indeed....Hillsborough and now this....

Which was pretty much greeted with silence.

It was possibly the lowest and most uncomfortable I have seen HIGNFY - like Hislop said "comedy gold"

Highlight for me was when they were wondering how he got away with it for so long Merton blurted out with a totally straight face "Didn't he spend Christmas at Checquers with Margaret Thatcher? Well there's your answer then"

jubbly 14-10-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vpfadioa (Post 1061084361)
No sorry, I was long gone from there by the time he was admitted. I left at the end of 1991, still have couple of mates who worked there until about 5 years ago, then they had enough and got out.

I can't think of a more dreadful place to work to be honest. I know someone has to do it but I couldn't in a million years.

Are you not in constant fear of attack from the patients. I imagine some of them would happily rip your face off with their teeth if they got half a chance.

Did you have any more unusual visitors or patrons that you can remember? I suppose it hard to find anyone more unusual than saville.

jubbly 14-10-2012 07:26 PM

Here is a list shamelessly copied from DS forums (I think they want us to) of people who signed off on Longford's porn report in 1972:

Quote:

There were 47 signatories, with three notes of reservation from Kingsley Amis, Elizabeth Jane Howard and David Goodbourn (from Times, Sep. 20th, 1972):

Mr Kingsley Amis
Professor J. N. D. Anderson
Dr. G. R. Beasley-Murray
Miss Dorothy Berridge
Mrs Sara Binney
Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Ian Bowater
The Rt Rev Bishop B. C. Butler
Professor Francis Camps
Sir Frederick Catherwood
the Rev Thomas Corbishley SJ
Lord Justice Edmund Davies
Mr Peter Dawson
Mr Dennis Delderfield
Lord Douglass
Lord Dulverton
Dr. Stanley Ellison
Canon S. H. Evans
Lord Fletcher
Mr Frank Gillard
Mr David Goodbourn
Mr Peter Grosvenor
Professor Agnes Headlam-Morley
Mr David Holbrook
Miss Elizabeth Jane Howard
Mr Martin Hughes
Miss Angela Jones
Mr Herbert Kerrigan
Mr Peter Kettle
Mr Ronald H Kirkwood
The Bishop of Leicester, Dr Williams
Mr John Godfray Le Quesne, QC
The Rev Joseph McCulloch
Miss Carol McCullough
Lady Masham
Mrs Mary Miles
Mr Malcolm Muggeridge
Mr Jeremy Murray-Brown
Mr Cliff Richard
Mr Basil Rooke-Ley
Mr Jimmy Savile
Dr. Christine F. T. Saville
Dr. Peter D. Scott
Mr James Sharkey
Lord Shawcross
The Rev. Lord Soper
The Bishop of Stepney Dr. Huddleston
The Rev. K. M. Steven
Colonel S. J. Watson
Mrs Shiela Wiltshire
Mr Peregrine Worsthorne
The Archbishop of York Dr. Coggan
Mrs. P. S. Ziegler


weeblue67 14-10-2012 07:33 PM

Over on Digital Spy, on the JS thread, even there, they are asking questions about D Notices/Government/Royalty.......Mega.....I don't post on there, but someone from here must do, and if not, even better for making the link for themselves. If there is any justice in this world, this one will not go away x

the nine 14-10-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pheony (Post 1061083844)
Two of my comments have been posted now.

Go for it.:)

Good work!
Can you post a link please pheony..

I can't see them anywhere

Probably been taken down by now :(

weeblue67 14-10-2012 07:46 PM

This is MASSIVE, and if we can encompass Hollie Greig/M McCann et all into this, then I for one, will be able to sleep a bit better at night.

We should protest.....but as Brits, tis not our way, cos we are placated by the Powers That Be. Look at Spain/Greece...thay take to the streets, when it is about money. Nobody there is going to die of starvation......but their kids still have the potential to be abused.

Yet, we as a nation just accept and lap it up. I feel like I am going mad here, but there has never ever been a better time for us "PLEBS" to stand up, and demand to know exactly what the fuck is going on. And if YOU don't, then you forfeit the right to ever complain about anything again...

vpfadioa 14-10-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jubbly (Post 1061084390)
I can't think of a more dreadful place to work to be honest. I know someone has to do it but I couldn't in a million years.

Are you not in constant fear of attack from the patients. I imagine some of them would happily rip your face off with their teeth if they got half a chance.

Did you have any more unusual visitors or patrons that you can remember? I suppose it hard to find anyone more unusual than saville.

It's true that some of patients are the most damaged and dangerous people in the country. You were at risk every shift but you didn't think about it or else you may have gone mad yourself.

I was lucky, I only got assaulted 3 times, the worst I got was concusion from a patient kicking in me in the head, thank christ they only wore slippers most of the time. Some of my colleagues got it far worse.

I have seen and read allergations about staff mis-treating patients but I never saw it with my own eyes. The patients we classed as the mad and the bad.

The mad, had a psychoctic illness, they couldn't help it. This didn't make them any less of a risk but you could spot the signs that they were going off on one.

The bad, these are the psychopaths. They plotted and planned, could be manipulative, attacked without warning. They had insight, something the psychotics lack. These were the dangerous ones you had to be on your guard with them 24/7

The staff who I worked with were highly experienced and knowledgable about mental health. People think we just bullied the patients, but some you could emapthise with and while you didn't form a friendship, you formed a bond of trust to try and help them.

As well as the abusers, we had the abused, people who had gone off their heads because of what horrors they had suffered. Not all had a criminal conviction, some due to their illness, were so violent they could only be treated at Broadmoor because of its high staff to patient ratio.

Some were stuck in the system, because nobody else wanted them, they didn't need to be there, but had nowhere else to go.

And some, believe me, they reveled in their crimes and loved to tell you what they had done. They are ones who should never walk the streets again.

When you have to sit and listen to a nonce, saying with glee, what he done to a kid. It takes a lot of self restraint to stop yourself from putting your boot into his smug face.

The only bigger name than Vile who ever came was Lady Diana, she came to officialy open the new buildings.

I stood about 5 feet away from her when she came onto our ward, I'll say with conviction that she was one of most beautiful women I have ever seen. Come to think of it, I didn't see Vile in tow that day, normally that c*** was there if there was even a whiff that he would get his stupid mug on a camera.

thekickinside 14-10-2012 07:51 PM

The Jimmy and Vlad the impaler link is fascinating me right now- are the two the same? Could be?

drfroggy 14-10-2012 07:52 PM

Digital Spy is pretty jammed packed with shills. Far too main stream to let stuff get through - so if people are asking there, the tide is def turning.

This is just an anecdote, but I thought it might be half-worth relating.

JS had a flat in my home town as a kid, on the East Cliff of Bournemouth

I asked my 80 yr old mum who has lived there for over 50 years, & she said she had no recollection *AT ALL* of JS having a connection with our local hospital. No photo ops, no reports, nothing. I don't remember the slightest newspaper thing or link when I was a kid & lived there, either. Given his apparent love of publicity, this is slightly weird. There's not the slightest thing linking him - try googling Bournemouth hospital & Savile.

Does that mean the hospital, there, was beyond his control area/influence - non-network? Or did the fact his flat, which is on the East Cliff, & just happens to be in the middle of the 'so-called' Jewish quarter of the town... mean it had another function???

I'm baffled. Dorset Police have, apparently, to date, no reports of complaints against him - if that's the case, what might this flat have been for? :eek:

trafficker 14-10-2012 07:52 PM

more WTF
 
Came accross this....

I have tried to find more information regarding the fact that Jimmy Savile sat on the Lord Longford's committee that produced a famous report on pornography in 1972.

Both heandCliff Richard, along with Mary Whitehouse spent three months researching the impact of porn on society, including visits to sex shops and sex shows in Denmark.

http://www.alwynwturner.com/crisis/extracts08.html

jubbly 14-10-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061084438)
Came accross this....

I have tried to find more information regarding the fact that Jimmy Savile sat on the Lord Longford's committee that produced a famous report on pornography in 1972.

Both heandCliff Richard, along with Mary Whitehouse spent three months researching the impact of porn on society, including visits to sex shops and sex shows in Denmark.

http://www.alwynwturner.com/crisis/extracts08.html

I have been posting this for the last couple of pages and noone seems interested. I think it is fascinating and the link between Savile and Longford, given that they both befriended serial killers in jails, is an important one I think.

Longford must have been at it. You just had to look at him to know that.

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jubbly (Post 1061084449)
I have been posting this for the last couple of pages and noone seems interested. I think it is fascinating and the link between Savile and Longford, given that they both befriended serial killers in jails, is an important one I think.

Longford must have been at it. You just had to look at him to know that.


I agree....


I bet they laughed all the way, I would like to read that report, as it seems paedo have quadrupled since report.

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061084457)
I agree....


I bet they laughed all the way, I would like to read that report, as it seems paedo have quadrupled since report.

Its the ones who get choosen for this, are the ones to watch....

Old mary, would have been the butt of jokes from jimmy, cliffy ect....

vizier 14-10-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drfroggy (Post 1061084437)
Digital Spy is pretty jammed packed with shills. Far too main stream to let stuff get through - so if people are asking there, the tide is def turning.

I used to post there myself. I don't think that they are shills, just ordinary punters who can't get their head around a lot of conspiracy theories. I include myself in that.

A lot of the stuff you read here is both fascinating and difficult to believe. I'm gradually coming to terms with a lot of shit happening, whereas 2 years ago I would have pretty much gone along with the mainstream view of things.

It isn't shilling. It's trusting what you've been told your whole life. Breaking that link is the first step, but it isn't easy..

thirty3 14-10-2012 08:22 PM

Jimmy saville reminds me of the queen mother........both created a fabulous image based on charity and children etc....how more in your ugly face can you get....lol

trux newman 14-10-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vpfadioa (Post 1061084433)
The only bigger name than Vile who ever came was Lady Diana, she came to officialy open the new buildings.

I stood about 5 feet away from her when she came onto our ward, I'll say with conviction that she was one of most beautiful women I have ever seen. Come to think of it, I didn't see Vile in tow that day, normally that c*** was there if there was even a whiff that he would get his stupid mug on a camera.

If she was as pure and 'angelic' as people say then it would have been uncomfortable for him to be near her and I she would have felt the same. Does anyone know of photos with them both in so we can see their reactions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by thekickinside (Post 1061084436)
The Jimmy and Vlad the impaler link is fascinating me right now- are the two the same? Could be?

I think the spirit who incarnated as Vlad would want an incarnation much higher up the tree than Jimmy. One of the royals around the world. Jimmy seems more of the aristocracy class. A worker, or general.

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizier (Post 1061084460)
I used to post there myself. I don't think that they are shills, just ordinary punters who can't get their head around a lot of conspiracy theories. I include myself in that.

A lot of the stuff you read here is both fascinating and difficult to believe. I'm gradually coming to terms with a lot of shit happening, whereas 2 years ago I would have pretty much gone along with the mainstream view of things.

It isn't shilling. It's trusting what you've been told your whole life. Breaking that link is the first step, but it isn't easy..

I went on there, the tide is turning on there such.as this post...

Jimmy Savile'sbrother, who was the entertainments officer at Springfield hospital in Tooting when Jimmy was "honorary acting entertainments officer" at Broadmoor, was "forced to resign" in 1980 for gross misconduct (which was actually a criminal offence), after a hearing for unfair dismissal was apparently adjourned for an undisclosed reason. The female patient he "groped" was not his only victim, asa lotof people at the hospital were aware at the time. A woman he raped there in 1979 has reported this to the police inquiry into his brother's activites. Did Jimmy's fame protect him too. He was never prosecuted for anything either.

How do I know this? Because it was me who reported him.

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:31 PM

I think the spirit who incarnated as Vlad would want an incarnation much higher up the tree than Jimmy. One of the royals around the world. Jimmy seems more of the aristocracy class. A worker, or general.[/QUOTE]

Hows about ratsputen, more cat weasel

mondo23 14-10-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trux newman (Post 1061084467)


I think the spirit who incarnated as Vlad would want an incarnation much higher up the tree than Jimmy. One of the royals around the world. Jimmy seems more of the aristocracy class. A worker, or general.

Prince Charles claims Vlad the Impaler as ancestor

LONDON (AP) — The truth is out: Prince Charles is related to Vlad the Impaler.

The heir to the British throne says he is related to Vlad the Impaler, the cruel 15th-Century Romanian warlord who helped inspire Bram Stoker's 1897 vampire novel "Dracula."

He makes the comments on an upcoming TV show to promote his interest in protecting the forests of Romania's Transylvania region.

Charles says genealogy shows that he is related to Vlad, giving him a stake in the future of Romania. The prince has long worked to conserve the forests and has bought a home in the region.

On a visit to Romania earlier this year, he called Transylvania a national treasure because of its unspoiled landscape and centuries-old rural farming traditions.

http://news.yahoo.com/prince-charles...112850101.html

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/450639...aler-ancestor/

etc...

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:36 PM

jimmy data mining
 
We should do one of them data mining charts (911) linking jimmy to nhs, care home, victims and fellow paedo......

That would be very imformative, may need very large page

wenlock29 14-10-2012 08:41 PM

From what we know about HDLG, the child abuses & cover ups perhaps it's an idea to to consider, from a legal & constitutional point of view, where Jersey really stands. Obviously I'm no constitutional expert so any help & clarity would be appreciated:

Wikipedia:

Jersey is a self-governing parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy, with its own financial, legal and judicial systems.

Jersey has a separate relationship to the British Crown from the other Crown Dependencies of Guernsey and the Isle of Man. It is not part of the United Kingdom, and has an international identity separate from that of the UK but the United Kingdom is constitutionally responsible for the defence of Jersey. Jersey is not a part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, being treated as part of the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods.

- Not part of the UK. UK only has only responsible for Jersey's defence

- Not part of the EU but has special relationship. Maintains pre-EU free trade agreement.

The wikipedia description above paints Jersey as a bit of an undefined state. Crown dependant, not part of the UK, self-governing but not in the EU.

I'm curious. Is it possible that Jersey, like it enjoys it's status as an offshore tax haven, has some sort of exemption when it comes to international laws that bind other democratic EU states?

If so, then perhaps that's why Jersey & HDLG was chosen as a place to ship orphans to from UK. I mean once they're there wouldn't they be in a legal void making it easier for them to be kidnapped & abused? From what I've read & seen (Bill Maloney's S, S&S doc.) Jersey is fucking weird place with corruption rife in it's system & officials. With a mental institution just down the road from HDLG to threaten victims just in case any of them thought about blowing the whistle.

trux newman 14-10-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061084478)
Hows about ratsputen, more cat weasel

He was a monk wasn't he, so probably a cardinal or bishop in the church now. Or if playing for the black team instead of the white, a cult leader. It's all a game of chess down through the centuries. Vlad was a King, Rasputin a Bishop. Jimmy was a Knight. All about being out in public getting the attention of the people and putting on a good show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mondo23 (Post 1061084479)
Charles says genealogy shows that he is related to Vlad, giving him a stake in the future of Romania.

LMAO, typical of them. When David mentions it in his books it's a dirty secret. As soon as there's a political benefit it's all fine! Cheeky land stealing scumbags.

trafficker 14-10-2012 08:53 PM

Charles sex files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trux newman (Post 1061084495)
He was a monk wasn't he, so probably a cardinal or bishop in the church now. Or if playing for the black team instead of the white, a cult leader. It's all a game of chess down through the centuries. Vlad was a King, Rasputin a Bishop. Jimmy was a Knight. All about being out in public getting the attention of the people and putting on a good show.



LMAO, typical of them. When David mentions it in his books it's a dirty secret. As soon as there's a political benefit it's all fine! Cheeky land stealing scumbags.

Talking about Charles just found this on todays sun on page 9, couldnt find on web
though....

Prince charles has been given access to secret sex files on the sex lives of the worlds most powerful men and women, to make sure he is fully informed when he finally
bexomes king.....

Its small hidden report, maybe its sign to the paedos out there qnd other wierdo rich people?

illuminumnuts 14-10-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizier (Post 1061084460)
I used to post there myself. I don't think that they are shills, just ordinary punters who can't get their head around a lot of conspiracy theories. I include myself in that. A lot of the stuff you read here is both fascinating and difficult to believe. I'm gradually coming to terms with a lot of shit happening, whereas 2 years ago I would have pretty much gone along with the mainstream view of things. It isn't shilling. It's trusting what you've been told your whole life. Breaking that link is the first step, but it isn't easy..

Shills will exist on all internet forums that have a certain level of traffic. Everyone needs to let this sink in. They will seek to infiltrate the moderation teams of these forums, especially of the more popular forums. It's full time work and what they do. This is the cyber battleground of information warfare in which we currently live. It is a certainty that shills will be on Digital Spy. Whether they have been called into action now or not is another matter. They definitely won't be contradicting stuff from mainstream TV for starters. I haven't looked over there, so can't really offer an opinion.

With regards other forums, I really think we need to be ramming home the message that the police can't be trusted to run this investigation. We need to keep plugging the idea that Savile can't have done what he did for 50 years without nationwide, masonic, police protection. It had to be masonic because there is no other organisation that links police around the country. It's not like he was enjoying protection from one police force through a high ranking connection and it's obvious every copper in the land wasn't in on it either. :rolleyes: I think that anyone with basic, common sense will realise that after they mull it over.

trux newman 14-10-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trafficker (Post 1061084510)
Talking about Charles just found this on todays sun on page 9, couldnt find on web
though....

Prince charles has been given access to secret sex files on the sex lives of the worlds most powerful men and women, to make sure he is fully informed when he finally
bexomes king.....

Its small hidden report, maybe its sign to the paedos out there qnd other wierdo rich people?

:eek: You bought The Sun? Tut tut. You shouldn't support/read that filth.

Charles will never be king. He'll step aside for William. More likley he got a briefing to figure out which other of his celeb mates are pedophiles.

lcp. 14-10-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wenlock29 (Post 1061084489)
From what we know about HDLG, the child abuses & cover ups perhaps it's an idea to to consider, from a legal & constitutional point of view, where Jersey really stands. Obviously I'm no constitutional expert so any help & clarity would be appreciated:

Wikipedia:

Jersey is a self-governing parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy, with its own financial, legal and judicial systems.

Jersey has a separate relationship to the British Crown from the other Crown Dependencies of Guernsey and the Isle of Man. It is not part of the United Kingdom, and has an international identity separate from that of the UK but the United Kingdom is constitutionally responsible for the defence of Jersey. Jersey is not a part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, being treated as part of the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods.

- Not part of the UK. UK only has only responsible for Jersey's defence

- Not part of the EU but has special relationship. Maintains pre-EU free trade agreement.

The wikipedia description above paints Jersey as a bit of an undefined state. Crown dependant, not part of the UK, self-governing but not in the EU.

I'm curious. Is it possible that Jersey, like it enjoys it's status as an offshore tax haven, has some sort of exemption when it comes to international laws that bind other democratic EU states?

If so, then perhaps that's why Jersey & HDLG was chosen as a place to ship orphans to from UK. I mean once they're there wouldn't they be in a legal void making it easier for them to be kidnapped & abused? From what I've read & seen (Bill Maloney's S, S&S doc.) Jersey is fucking weird place with corruption rife in it's system & officials. With a mental institution just down the road from HDLG to threaten victims just in case any of them thought about blowing the whistle.

The strange, bizarre and uber reclusive Barclay brothers (Barclays banking dynasty) own several of the channel islands, and apparently rule them like little Hitlers.

trux newman 14-10-2012 09:14 PM

The channel 5 news (don't hate me, I'm watching Rocky) just said the claims now go back as far as the late 50's and they expect there to be at least 100 victims within a few days.

velma 14-10-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trux newman (Post 1061083903)
Botched ritual probably, or he wasn't mentally strong enough to cope with the energies. I just find it strange that he's getting press time when he's not done anything in years. As I said, the last time I saw him on tv was outside Saviles funeral in Leeds gushing about how awesome he was. Now he's suddenly in the papers putting together an excuse for anything that might have happened during the period he was 'mad'. Yeah right.

Perhaps he's named names and this is part of his payment.

Only a year ago, the BBC tribute to Jimmy Savile portrayed him as a wonderful eccentric, who lit up a room with his presence, selflessly raising £millions for charities, although, he knew throwing money at them wasn’t enough, you had to be ‘hand’s on’ to make a difference. “When it came to caring, Jimmy was the real deal” said the narrator.

He presented TOTP with Pete n’ Fluff, surrounded by “dolly birds” introducing the ‘stars’ Bowie, Cliff, Elton, Slade and Garry Glitter. He was a hit in light entertainment, appearing with Wogan and the Two Ronnies. More importantly, “he was a firm favourite with the Establishment” visiting the Prime Minister at Chequers and the Royals at Buckingham Palace, no less. What that means is, Prince Charles, the heir to the throne, was the personal friend of a known paedophile who was the most prolific sexual predator in the country, over a period of five decades.

But ‘Sun-readers’ are tired of the salacious details of Savile’s perversions. My neighbour told me today, "Thank f*ck Jimmy Savile is not on the front page today, I'm sick of reading about that c*nt!" In a final attempt to keep the lowest denominator interested and boost sales, the ‘Sunday Sport’ headline read; ‘Savile Had Sex With Dead Bodies.’ And so they will soon move on to the next celebrity scandal and there is no shortage of those, or a heart-rending tale like Big Frank’s mental health problems.

Interesting choice bearing in mind his meeting with Savile and Sutcliffe at Broadmoor!


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