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the 9 rings 13-03-2013 05:29 AM

Reptilians given a bad name?
 
The reptoids all of you speak of and are mongering oh so ever long about is starting to get ridiculous.There are many races of reptilians and many different factions.The only reptilians who are evil are the ones who rule the illuminati which is actually called "the cabal".Those reptilians are bent on destroying and conquering all of earth and its inhabitants.Lucifer started this rebellious swarm of elite reptilians when he first arrived here and was banned from the star nations for trying to seize control of its power and ancient secrets.The reptilians you all speak of are actually very nice and very passionate beings,they will not harm you unless they are with the cabal.You will know which is which.Its funny because some of the people on this forum have the dna genetic code marker of an alien decent.I could keep going on and on about all the info i have on every subject of this site but it would be a waste of time almost all of the people on this site are skeptic's and have no open mind...there for you will never grow.

night_gaunt 13-03-2013 05:35 AM

What is not emphasized enough is Icke's mention that he is only talking about a certain group of reptilians and not all, but it is very clear to me that this subforum constantly attacks and labels all reptilians as evil vampires.

chadwick 13-03-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061370924)
The reptoids all of you speak of and are mongering oh so ever long about is starting to get ridiculous.There are many races of reptilians and many different factions.The only reptilians who are evil are the ones who rule the illuminati which is actually called "the cabal".Those reptilians are bent on destroying and conquering all of earth and its inhabitants.Lucifer started this rebellious swarm of elite reptilians when he first arrived here and was banned from the star nations for trying to seize control of its power and ancient secrets.The reptilians you all speak of are actually very nice and very passionate beings,they will not harm you unless they are with the cabal.You will know which is which.Its funny because some of the people on this forum have the dna genetic code marker of an alien decent.I could keep going on and on about all the info i have on every subject of this site but it would be a waste of time almost all of the people on this site are skeptic's and have no open mind...there for you will never grow.

this is what, a rant ? grow where ? i don't get what this is about, do u have a book you wrote about this so i could read to tell you what i really think ?

synbios64 13-03-2013 01:26 PM

I hope they are not all bad..I would love to live in peace with them!

darklord 13-03-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by synbios64 (Post 1061371386)
I hope they are not all bad..I would love to live in peace with them!

You already do!

daveownz 13-03-2013 06:20 PM

I imagine a time where the reptilian races were peaceful but then a politically racial regime came around that unified some of the reptilian races into some sort of sick fascist-communist way of life. Just a thought I suppose.

maxine 13-03-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061370924)
The reptoids all of you speak of and are mongering oh so ever long about is starting to get ridiculous.There are many races of reptilians and many different factions.The only reptilians who are evil are the ones who rule the illuminati which is actually called "the cabal".Those reptilians are bent on destroying and conquering all of earth and its inhabitants.Lucifer started this rebellious swarm of elite reptilians when he first arrived here and was banned from the star nations for trying to seize control of its power and ancient secrets.The reptilians you all speak of are actually very nice and very passionate beings,they will not harm you unless they are with the cabal.You will know which is which.Its funny because some of the people on this forum have the dna genetic code marker of an alien decent.I could keep going on and on about all the info i have on every subject of this site but it would be a waste of time almost all of the people on this site are skeptic's and have no open mind...there for you will never grow.

There are Reptilians - who work with our scientists! Our scientists have said - that they fear their own secret sections of Government - more than these Reptilians! Human beings have shown nothing but a lack of self-control, and aggression - throughout their time on this planet! The Reptilians would rather move in the opposite direction - than try harming a Human Being!!

1zenith 13-03-2013 09:06 PM

I am not closed-minded
 
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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061370924)
The reptoids all of you speak of and are mongering oh so ever long about is starting to get ridiculous.There are many races of reptilians and many different factions.The only reptilians who are evil are the ones who rule the illuminati which is actually called "the cabal".Those reptilians are bent on destroying and conquering all of earth and its inhabitants.Lucifer started this rebellious swarm of elite reptilians when he first arrived here and was banned from the star nations for trying to seize control of its power and ancient secrets.The reptilians you all speak of are actually very nice and very passionate beings,they will not harm you unless they are with the cabal.You will know which is which.Its funny because some of the people on this forum have the dna genetic code marker of an alien decent.I could keep going on and on about all the info i have on every subject of this site but it would be a waste of time almost all of the people on this site are skeptic's and have no open mind...there for you will never grow.


NO no. I am openminded and not a skeptic. And i believe what you believe. All the evil ones are the Illuminati. But some evil ones i believe are in general population too. Most reptilians in general population are not EVIL.
And what exactly constitutes definition of 'reptilian'? Only 50 50 hybrids? How can that be proven?? Are some 25/75 10/90??:)
How can i take a blood test to see if me or anybody else is reptilian?

ufochick 13-03-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1zenith (Post 1061372532)
NO no. I am openminded and not a skeptic. And i believe what you believe. All the evil ones are the Illuminati. But some evil ones i believe are in general population too. Most reptilians in general population are not EVIL.
And what exactly constitutes definition of 'reptilian'? Only 50 50 hybrids? How can that be proven?? Are some 25/75 10/90??:)
How can i take a blood test to see if me or anybody else is reptilian?

From my personal blog, copyrighted but used by me here.

REPTILIAN SHAPESHIFTING IS IT REAL??

Over and over I hear people claim to "be" a reptilian or claim that people are shapeshifting physically into a reptilian form. It's time for those who have an interest in this subject to understand how this all works.
First, humans do NOT shapeshift. It is impossible for a human body to rearrange it's atoms and become another type of physical mammal or reptilian. It cannot and does not happen.
The word shapeshift has been used over the years because people have seen a change in what appears to be the physical form of other humans. So how does this happen?

Each human has at least three parts to them; the physical body, which is what we use as a conduit to access this reality. the nergy or astral body which is an energy field that is an expanded duplicate of our physical body and the soul which can take any form and includes our consciousness.

The interdimensional reptilian entities cannot access this reality in the physical without a conduit. (see note at bottom about physical reptilians). That conduit is a physical body, a human body. So how does this part work?


There are several ways a reptilian can access or use a human body. One way is a human with compatible DNA. There are certain humans with genetics that make them more easily accessible by the reptilians, these genetic families are called bloodline families. It is commonly believed that many eons ago the reptilians manipulated our DNA and in doing so created a human bloodline that was accessable to them. These human were either already in positions of power or manipulated their way up to positions of power. If you look at the history of the world you will see royalty intermarrying with other royalty. This was done on purpose to keep the bloodlines compatible for reptilian use. There are many many people all over the world who carry DNA and bloodlines that make them useable by the reptilian entities.

The second way is access through the energy/vibration of the human. People who live in a state of negativity, fear, anger, violence, aggression and or abuse of drugs or sex are creating an energy within their body that is compatible with the reptilian energy (which is based on many of these traits) Just as humans draw to them other people who have similar energy to theirs other Beings do also.

The third way is the most complicated. It may be a combination of the above two. It is created by the reptilian and encludes the reptilian entity targeting a human who is not quite compatible, usually a bloodliner who is not pure enough in lineage to be directly accessed. The reptilian then begins the grooming or manipulation of the person to change their energy enough that they may become a useful conduit. This many times begins with the dream world, mental manipulation or physical illness/torture. Once the reptilian has found or manipulated a human into the range of compatible he will do one of the following;

1) Ride-along. This means that for large periods of time the reptilian will actually hop into the human energy field and ride along with the human in the human body. When this happens the degree of control reptilian has is quite varied. It depends completely on the individual human nd how much control they have over their thoughts or actions. A very self controlled person who chooses each thought, action and reaction will allow the ride-along reptilian very little control. If the person who is "hosting" the reptilian acts only with love, kindness and similar thoughts/actions/reactions and has a high vibrational rate the reptilian will be very limited in what control he can establish and how long he may reside within such an incompatible (energy and will wise) human. However if the person is weak willed and has a negative nature and personality such ride-alongs tend to allow the reptilian more and more control.

2) Attempt to take over the Human completely. Begin to invade the human in total, this means as attack from one or all sides. the dreamscape may be first to be invaded with amazing sexual dreams (the norm for women who are wanted for astral/interdimensional sex, this turns into torture later) or amazing sex dreams that begin well but then turn into nightmares with the sex partner in the dream turning into something repulsive (usually done to me, this is the beginning of impotence and a change in attitude, energy towards the negative reptilian attitudes). The other common invasion technics are the reptilians projecting thoughts into the mind at random times and sudden angry energy bursts/transfers that result in bursts of anger form the person. Again these are attempts to change the basic vibrational energy of the human to allow the reptilain access.

Humans may block the reptilian interference at this point by recognizing what is happening. A choice on the soul level not to accept the dreams, thoughts or energy is paramount at this time. Absolute refusal to bend in any way to these manipulations in needed. If the human becomes involved with the reptilian knowingly (such as a sexual relationaship in the dreamscape) or unknowingly (such as the allowing the violent thoughts and lower base energy to override the personality) then it can be very hard to end the invasion. These are examples of the "entry level" techniches used by the reptilians they rarely give up easily but one inbedded and encouraged they can be very very difficult to get rid of.

For those people who accept the dreamscape fantasies and or allow the negative personality traits and energy to take over there will be a progression in manipulation until the will is taken over. When this occurs one of two things may happen. There may be a "pssession" in which the reptilain completely controls the human's three aspects; physical body, energy and will. When this occurs the human is no more than a puppet being controlled by the reptilian. There is not enough information at this point to know if the human energy body is replaced by the reptilian energy body or they coexist. It may be an either or situation. The other possibility is that the human energy body and soul are removed (with technology) and the physical body is inhabited by the reptilian energy body and essense (soul) full time. The many reports of negative rituall energy manipulation seem to indicate that in order for the reptilian to remain in the human body shell there must be certain energy consumed by the human suit wearing reptilian entitiy. This would explain the blood and sex rituals which are done by the elite families and those in power. It is not about the physical act of sex or the physical use of blood but about the energy extracted during those rituals. This energy allows the reptilian to remain in the human body.

So back to shapeshifting, what does actual happen when a person sees another change form?

Humans have a very limited access to the worlds and dimensions around them. Most people only see and experience a small amount of what is happening around them. Much of what happens is not within the parameters of what our physical body can interact with, it's not within our visual light spectrum which is very very small. Some people however can see more than others can. Think of a radio station when it's on the correct numbers it comes in loud and clear however if it's slightly off the dial you may hear other stations. Some people can move their perception slightly off the station (or are that way all the time) and pick up NONvisable light or spectums. These people may be able to control their perception, it may be there all the time or only once in a lifetime, but when a person can see into the energy fields usually hidden they will see things the way they really are. This includes seeing certain reptilian traits when a reptilian is inhabitting a human body. When a reptilian is under great stress or great emotion they seem to have the tendency to push their true energy body forward. When this happens it may become visable to certain people.

There is no shapeshifting, no physical change. It is the energy body being recognized within the human form. This same phenomina happens many times with humans also. During times of great emotion people are seen to exibit different energy when the human energy field comes forward. Think of the glow of the prgnant woman, how a person who is very angry gets bigger or how during times of great spiiritual ecstasy people have been seen with halos or they seem to glow with white light. It is the same thing.

So are people reptilians? Nope. They may have the bloodlines that make them an easy target but a human is a human. They may have a reptilian riding along or their body may have actually been taken over by a reptilian entity but even if that is so there is no physical shapeshifting.

The other question I see asked is "Are there "good" reptilians?" I do not believe so, however many people do. I believe these creatures can act as though they are benevolent however in my opinion it is a ruse.

So beware, do your own research from far away if you wish. These are not Beings to toy with, you do not want to meet them. Keep yourself positive and feel compassion for others, if you want to live in a kind world then be kind, it will help protect you and will change the world bit by bit each day.


Dana

tempestgarden 14-03-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ufochick (Post 1061372632)

1) Ride-along. This means that for large periods of time the reptilian will actually hop into the human energy field and ride along with the human in the human body. When this happens the degree of control reptilian has is quite varied. It depends completely on the individual human and how much control they have over their thoughts or actions. A very self controlled person who chooses each thought, action and reaction will allow the ride-along reptilian very little control. If the person who is "hosting" the reptilian acts only with love, kindness and similar thoughts/actions/reactions and has a high vibrational rate the reptilian will be very limited in what control he can establish and how long he may reside within such an incompatible (energy and will wise) human. However if the person is weak willed and has a negative nature and personality such ride-alongs tend to allow the reptilian more and more control.

This might ruffle some feathers but here goes anyway.

From my perspective, what you have described here that I have quoted above would be an accurate description for David Icke.

I have felt for a long time now that Icke himself was hosting a Reptilian and I have heard a least one person in the past say that they can see the Reptilian in Icke's "aura" for lack of a better term. This would fit well into what you called a "ride-along".

Whether or not this would be considered one of the "good" Reptilians is up for debate but you could certainly say that Icke has his fair share of detractors.

I have looked at your info for a couple of years now Dana and I am continually impressed by what you present. You clearly have some advanced knowledge about the dynamics of this reality that we are living in.

ufochick 14-03-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tempestgarden (Post 1061373079)
This might ruffle some feathers but here goes anyway.

From my perspective, what you have described here that I have quoted above would be an accurate description for David Icke.

I have felt for a long time now that Icke himself was hosting a Reptilian and I have heard a least one person in the past say that they can see the Reptilian in Icke's "aura" for lack of a better term. This would fit well into what you called a "ride-along".

Whether or not this would be considered one of the "good" Reptilians is up for debate but you could certainly say that Icke has his fair share of detractors.

I have looked at your info for a couple of years now Dana and I am continually impressed by what you present. You clearly have some advanced knowledge about the dynamics of this reality that we are living in.

I work really hard to present what I have been through in a way that educates other people and hopefully helps them navigate this weird world we live in.
I've had a rough ride and come out the other side, trying to save others from the crap I have been through.

blaze9 14-03-2013 03:06 AM

Spot on Dana

the 9 rings 15-03-2013 02:12 AM

bravo.
 
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Originally Posted by blaze9 (Post 1061373319)
Spot on Dana

I reassure you she is dead on. :) But frankly I have much more knowledge than just genetic make up and shape-shifting of different frequency level's and body "chakara" reactions to its harmonic pitch.The truth is these reptilians are very nice and passionate beings of vast intellect and we could learn much from them, if our government wasn't so stern on "bending the rules" of the beings ethics and power. Alot of people brought great subject's to my attention.If you have any questions about anything just directly message me please,thank you.

ufochick 15-03-2013 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061375792)
I reassure you she is dead on. :) But frankly I have much more knowledge than just genetic make up and shape-shifting of different frequency level's and body "chakara" reactions to its harmonic pitch.The truth is these reptilians are very nice and passionate beings of vast intellect and we could learn much from them, if our government wasn't so stern on "bending the rules" of the beings ethics and power. Alot of people brought great subject's to my attention.If you have any questions about anything just directly message me please,thank you.

The reptilians I have dealt with are NOT service to others, they are purely service to self. STO do not rape, take over bodies, fracture souls, invade dreamscapes and attempt to lower people's vibration so they can possess them.

joiningthedots 15-03-2013 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by darklord (Post 1061371403)
You already do!

Only because they are too meek to stand up to them. :D

night_gaunt 15-03-2013 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061375792)
The truth is these reptilians are very nice and passionate beings of vast intellect and we could learn much from them, if our government wasn't so stern on "bending the rules" of the beings ethics and power. Alot of people brought great subject's to my attention.If you have any questions about anything just directly message me please,thank you.

I agree with you. I've grown up feeling very positive towards and comforted by these beings which i can't explain. I guess others could explain it as "brainwashing" or the like. I respect the experiences of others and i would never label them as liars, i recognize there is a group of harmful reptilians.
I just feel bad that the actual benevolent ones get a bad rap.

joiningthedots 15-03-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ufochick (Post 1061372632)
From my personal blog, copyrighted but used by me here.

REPTILIAN SHAPESHIFTING IS IT REAL??

Over and over I hear people claim to "be" a reptilian or claim that people are shapeshifting physically into a reptilian form. It's time for those who have an interest in this subject to understand how this all works.
First, humans do NOT shapeshift. It is impossible for a human body to rearrange it's atoms and become another type of physical mammal or reptilian. It cannot and does not happen.
The word shapeshift has been used over the years because people have seen a change in what appears to be the physical form of other humans. So how does this happen?

Each human has at least three parts to them; the physical body, which is what we use as a conduit to access this reality. the nergy or astral body which is an energy field that is an expanded duplicate of our physical body and the soul which can take any form and includes our consciousness.

The interdimensional reptilian entities cannot access this reality in the physical without a conduit. (see note at bottom about physical reptilians). That conduit is a physical body, a human body. So how does this part work?


There are several ways a reptilian can access or use a human body. One way is a human with compatible DNA. There are certain humans with genetics that make them more easily accessible by the reptilians, these genetic families are called bloodline families. It is commonly believed that many eons ago the reptilians manipulated our DNA and in doing so created a human bloodline that was accessable to them. These human were either already in positions of power or manipulated their way up to positions of power. If you look at the history of the world you will see royalty intermarrying with other royalty. This was done on purpose to keep the bloodlines compatible for reptilian use. There are many many people all over the world who carry DNA and bloodlines that make them useable by the reptilian entities.

The second way is access through the energy/vibration of the human. People who live in a state of negativity, fear, anger, violence, aggression and or abuse of drugs or sex are creating an energy within their body that is compatible with the reptilian energy (which is based on many of these traits) Just as humans draw to them other people who have similar energy to theirs other Beings do also.

The third way is the most complicated. It may be a combination of the above two. It is created by the reptilian and encludes the reptilian entity targeting a human who is not quite compatible, usually a bloodliner who is not pure enough in lineage to be directly accessed. The reptilian then begins the grooming or manipulation of the person to change their energy enough that they may become a useful conduit. This many times begins with the dream world, mental manipulation or physical illness/torture. Once the reptilian has found or manipulated a human into the range of compatible he will do one of the following;

1) Ride-along. This means that for large periods of time the reptilian will actually hop into the human energy field and ride along with the human in the human body. When this happens the degree of control reptilian has is quite varied. It depends completely on the individual human nd how much control they have over their thoughts or actions. A very self controlled person who chooses each thought, action and reaction will allow the ride-along reptilian very little control. If the person who is "hosting" the reptilian acts only with love, kindness and similar thoughts/actions/reactions and has a high vibrational rate the reptilian will be very limited in what control he can establish and how long he may reside within such an incompatible (energy and will wise) human. However if the person is weak willed and has a negative nature and personality such ride-alongs tend to allow the reptilian more and more control.

2) Attempt to take over the Human completely. Begin to invade the human in total, this means as attack from one or all sides. the dreamscape may be first to be invaded with amazing sexual dreams (the norm for women who are wanted for astral/interdimensional sex, this turns into torture later) or amazing sex dreams that begin well but then turn into nightmares with the sex partner in the dream turning into something repulsive (usually done to me, this is the beginning of impotence and a change in attitude, energy towards the negative reptilian attitudes). The other common invasion technics are the reptilians projecting thoughts into the mind at random times and sudden angry energy bursts/transfers that result in bursts of anger form the person. Again these are attempts to change the basic vibrational energy of the human to allow the reptilain access.

Humans may block the reptilian interference at this point by recognizing what is happening. A choice on the soul level not to accept the dreams, thoughts or energy is paramount at this time. Absolute refusal to bend in any way to these manipulations in needed. If the human becomes involved with the reptilian knowingly (such as a sexual relationaship in the dreamscape) or unknowingly (such as the allowing the violent thoughts and lower base energy to override the personality) then it can be very hard to end the invasion. These are examples of the "entry level" techniches used by the reptilians they rarely give up easily but one inbedded and encouraged they can be very very difficult to get rid of.

For those people who accept the dreamscape fantasies and or allow the negative personality traits and energy to take over there will be a progression in manipulation until the will is taken over. When this occurs one of two things may happen. There may be a "pssession" in which the reptilain completely controls the human's three aspects; physical body, energy and will. When this occurs the human is no more than a puppet being controlled by the reptilian. There is not enough information at this point to know if the human energy body is replaced by the reptilian energy body or they coexist. It may be an either or situation. The other possibility is that the human energy body and soul are removed (with technology) and the physical body is inhabited by the reptilian energy body and essense (soul) full time. The many reports of negative rituall energy manipulation seem to indicate that in order for the reptilian to remain in the human body shell there must be certain energy consumed by the human suit wearing reptilian entitiy. This would explain the blood and sex rituals which are done by the elite families and those in power. It is not about the physical act of sex or the physical use of blood but about the energy extracted during those rituals. This energy allows the reptilian to remain in the human body.

So back to shapeshifting, what does actual happen when a person sees another change form?

Humans have a very limited access to the worlds and dimensions around them. Most people only see and experience a small amount of what is happening around them. Much of what happens is not within the parameters of what our physical body can interact with, it's not within our visual light spectrum which is very very small. Some people however can see more than others can. Think of a radio station when it's on the correct numbers it comes in loud and clear however if it's slightly off the dial you may hear other stations. Some people can move their perception slightly off the station (or are that way all the time) and pick up NONvisable light or spectums. These people may be able to control their perception, it may be there all the time or only once in a lifetime, but when a person can see into the energy fields usually hidden they will see things the way they really are. This includes seeing certain reptilian traits when a reptilian is inhabitting a human body. When a reptilian is under great stress or great emotion they seem to have the tendency to push their true energy body forward. When this happens it may become visable to certain people.

There is no shapeshifting, no physical change. It is the energy body being recognized within the human form. This same phenomina happens many times with humans also. During times of great emotion people are seen to exibit different energy when the human energy field comes forward. Think of the glow of the prgnant woman, how a person who is very angry gets bigger or how during times of great spiiritual ecstasy people have been seen with halos or they seem to glow with white light. It is the same thing.

So are people reptilians? Nope. They may have the bloodlines that make them an easy target but a human is a human. They may have a reptilian riding along or their body may have actually been taken over by a reptilian entity but even if that is so there is no physical shapeshifting.

The other question I see asked is "Are there "good" reptilians?" I do not believe so, however many people do. I believe these creatures can act as though they are benevolent however in my opinion it is a ruse.

So beware, do your own research from far away if you wish. These are not Beings to toy with, you do not want to meet them. Keep yourself positive and feel compassion for others, if you want to live in a kind world then be kind, it will help protect you and will change the world bit by bit each day.


Dana

They are charming psychopaths with a deep hatred for all humans. The Soul Harvesters are N E V E R to be trusted. They seek to dominate, destroy and repeat for eternity. To them It is simply business.

the 9 rings 15-03-2013 03:45 AM

You are misguided, the ones that you may have came in contact with or worked with like you say are only a few of self dominion which is called the global elite control group " The cabal". Simply like this, the " Star Nations " have reptilians aboard and work with them daily and are actually quite sensitive creatures. Also i never stated they could take over a body in such way. Reptilians have no need for such a waist of time they are bent on controlling earth and all it's inhabitants yeah? No,that is a group of reptoids that have mind controlled a bunch of globally power individuals. There on the wrong side,trust me or just simply...Trust your heart.

ufochick 15-03-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by the 9 rings (Post 1061375909)
You are misguided, the ones that you may have came in contact with or worked with like you say are only a few of self dominion which is called the global elite control group " The cabal". Simply like this, the " Star Nations " have reptilians aboard and work with them daily and are actually quite sensitive creatures. Also i never stated they could take over a body in such way. Reptilians have no need for such a waist of time they are bent on controlling earth and all it's inhabitants yeah? No,that is a group of reptoids that have mind controlled a bunch of globally power individuals. There on the wrong side,trust me or just simply...Trust your heart.

So you have had personal experience with them? One on one? Or are you simply reading other people's channeled or otherwise questionable work?

the 9 rings 15-03-2013 06:02 AM

I have come in contact with many different beings over the years, even at a very young age. I have seen some of their technology such as the inside of a pod which is highly advanced neural transmitting body module, can travel through space within hours and one base on a small moon or maybe a star map planet with a training facility and weapons/tactics fields I couldn't remember the exact location but it was very close to earth. They use allot of telepathy for some reason to, it's almost like another language o them. The alterians are very good with telepathic power,most of there work is done that way. And no all this information is stuff iv'e had over the years of researching everything and getting to close to the source and really getting an enlightenment from its awe.


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