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clunks 15-06-2014 09:06 PM

Timeline Manipulation
Ok lots of stuff online about this, but sounding very technical and therefore hard to understand.

So if anyone can help simplify this

What is it?

How is it done?

Can we spot this once it has happened?

Can we rectify the effects?

Anyone help with this......

oiram 15-06-2014 10:02 PM

I lost just about a minute so far!
I lost just about a minute so far!

My posting time stamp is slowly creeping away from real time!:eek:

oiram 15-06-2014 10:07 PM

time-travel manipulation?
British author H.G. Wells publishes "The Time Machine."
Albert Einstein's special theory of relativity shows that space and time are relative, not absolute, and that time is actually a fourth dimension within what he calls "space-time."
Einstein discovers that space-time is curved.
Mathematician Kurt Goedel proposes that the universe itself may be a time machine.
Goedel demonstrates mathematically that pathways through time are possible.
U.S. physicist John Wheeler invents the name "black hole" to describe singularities in space and time.
Astrophysicist Frank Tipler plots paths around a vast, imaginary spinning cylinder, confirming that paths through time can exist.
Air Force scientist and engineer David Anderson proposes his time-warped field theory.
Caltech University's Kip Thorne suggests using wormholes as a possible means of time travel.
David Anderson extends time-warped field theory creating the worlds' first complete space-time model and virtual laboratory.
Richard Gott at Princeton University proves that cosmic strings could be used for time travel.
The Time Travel Research Center is formed by David Anderson.

The following posts were sent by an individual who claims to be native to a "world-line" where the U.S.A. did not take part in World War II.

There are some Montauk project investigators such as Michael Ash who state that the Montauk Project had sent agents back in time to help Great Britain AND America win the war against Germany.

Could THIS current time/world-line be the result of time-travel manipulation?

OR, could it be that some of the agents working at Montauk who were affiliated with Germany, went back in time and helped Germany to win the war, essentially creating another world-line?

Whatever the case, read on and form your own conclusions.

The following source believes that HIS timeline is the original due to various inconsistencies that he has observed in our world, and that OURS is an engineered reality.

Alex Collier on the other hand states that the "Zenatae" people with whom he is in contact also confirmed that there is a German Empire timeline however that OUR timeline is the original, yet the Zenatae "Andromedans" ALSO state that THIS is essentially the second time around, i.e. that there was a timeline before THIS one was created [by the Montauk Project], the creation of this world-line having changed the 5th dimensional reality of the Zenatae's themselves.

So what is the TRUE reality?
Or is reality like a hologram of a TREE?

... that is, are all the "branches" connected at the subtle levels yet one will "see" a different "reality" depending on what "branch-perspective" they are looking at!?.

Could the creation of multiple timelines by temporal manipulation on the part of the Montauk projects lead to some kind of unraveling of the linear third dimension itself, perhaps around the year 2012 as some have suggested?

The individual source of this information will be identified only as "ProfessorPhate":

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:37:43 -0600 (CST)
Thank you for your gracious if overwhelming reply. I can only hope that I have the intellectual stamina to co-ordinate the expression of my thoughts as well as you have deployed yours. Because of other demands I will be obliged to respond to your e-mail in a piece-meal fashion, but eventually I will address, in however a circuitous route, as many of the topics as I can.

The paucity in my personal experience of different world-lines makes me incapable of attributing the primacy of origin or determination to one as opposed to another. Indeed, as I am increasingly coming to suspect, that may be ultimately a meaningless question. Although, by circumscribing one's set of references, a diligent observer could discern a genealogy. Any person who has transposed from their aboriginal world-line to an alternative can automatically, by virtue of their discrepant nature, evaluate the comparative stability or 'solidity' of the two. At least, this is my vouchsafed experience.

This natural talent or expertise is perhaps not germane to, and probably obfuscates, any attempt to ascertain a family-tree.

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:25:58 -0600 (CST)
To continue.... Another aptitude that is acquired by a transposer is a psychic sensitivity which I call (and this is possibly a misnomer) chronopathy, i.e.: the ability to detect locales where there is a temporal discontinuity. This has a variety of formats. What might be indicated is a site of unusual temporal integrity or intensity in comparison to it's surroundings. Or a configuration that is peculiarly related to a counterpart on another time/world-line, and thus has a higher potential to facilitate a physical transfer between the two tracks.

There are doubtlessly other determinations which can be gleaned and a superintending gestalt that I do not yet understand. In my experience, an overcast day is the most conducive condition or prerequisite for reliable and repeated observations; but, on the other hand, the absence of sunlight, that is to say, the evening obliterates any sensitivity. On one or two occasions I have discovered in the full bore of unfiltered sunlight one of these outstanding sites or overlaps.

Whether this was due to a unique emanation or an unusual degree of discrimination on my part, or some other variable or combination of the aforementioned, I cannot say. This year I intend to begin a cartographical record of these areas. Lastly, alas, I must acknowledge that in my case I can only espy those emplacements that are synchronized (in whatever manner or quality) with my own world-line.

As to whether this reveals an intrusion of one domain upon the other, or a natural or artificial network of gateways... I do not know. Although I am prone to rampages of speculation, about this entire matter I am trying to be as circumspect as possible.

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:59:10 -0600 (CST)
Deleting, for the sake of narrative simplicity, my own intricate and confusing story (that will have to be recounted later), let me expatiate upon my home world-line.

It is 25 years behind this time-line.
Perhaps the most glaring departure between the two is that the United States never participated in the Second World War. After the conquest of Metropolitan France by Germany (and Italy), the British Empire signed an armistice and subsequent peace-treaty with the Axis powers. A matter has occurred which unfortunately obliges me to curtail the account very prematurely. I will resume as soon as I can.

Thanks for your patience.
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:20:09 -0600 (CST)

The provisions of the settlement were actually quite lenient. There was to be no occupation and the British army was promptly repatriated (there was no Dunkirk - the war party in the Parliament toppled when the B.E.F. was bagged in France). And in return for German 'guidance' in British foreign (and to a lesser degree, domestic) policy and the contribution of a modest expeditionary force (mainly naval) to the great anti-Bolshevik crusade, Hitler, to the extreme annoyance of the Italians, personally guaranteed the integrity of the British Empire (a point not lost on the Japanese either).

Although Hitler was very partial to Mussolini as an individual, the German military established a far more intimate relationship with the English than they ever desired to with their ostensible Italian allies. Nevertheless, the remnants of the war party, in the guise of a British-first movement, was able to survive, after a fashion, as the loyal Parliamentary opposition. Punctuated with violence, the socialist and labor coalition was suppressed, intimidated, co-opted, or bought-off. They remain to this day however the source of the English Resistance (by way of comparison, they are to the United Kingdom what the Basques are to contemporary Spain in this world-line).

WW II was much less damaging to Britain than was the case here. A number of nations, especially Australia and New Zealand, were more pro-Empire than even the English! South Africa became the 'fascist conscience' of Great Britain, while Canada became the haven for the disloyal (albeit ineffectual) opposition. India remained the jewel in the crown; but the sub-continent was a much more fractious place than it was in the pre-war period. This took longer than I anticipated. It's time for me to move along again.

More later....

- Experiments in Time
- Håkan Nordkvist Has Visited the Future - His Story
- History of Time Travel Timeline
- How Time Travel Will Work
- Montauk And The Secret Government
- Nikola Tesla - Secret Time Travel Experiments
- Obama Pre-Identified as President by Secret DARPA-CIA Time Travel Program
- On The Edge of Time - The Mystery of Time Slips
- Reversing Time at Sub-light Speed
- Stargate - Main File
- The Nature of Light
- The Physics of Time Travel - Is it Real, or is it Fable?
- The Vajra Chronicles
- Time Control Technologies and Methods


Time is a funny thing. There never seems to be enough - yet there is an infinite amount. Time slips through moment upon second into eternity past; yet present, to begin the future.

Time is thought to be unstoppable in its relentless push towards the future. Humans perceive themselves as bound up in time as an insect in amber. Forever imprisoned and forced to reconcile with the regularity and inevitability of change. The past is gone -- the present, fleeting -- and the future is unknown. Or is it?

If a Merseyside policeman by the name of Frank was asked, he may have an entirely different opinion on the subject of time.

On a sunny Saturday afternoon in July of 1996, Frank and his wife, Carol was visiting Liverpool’s Bold Street area for some shopping. At Central Station, the pair split up; Carol went to Dillons Bookshop and Frank went to HMV to look for a CD he wanted. As he walked up the incline near the Lyceum Post Office/Café building that lead onto Bold Street, Frank suddenly noticed he had entered a strange "oasis of quietness."

Suddenly, a small box van that looked like something out of the 1950s sped across his path, honking its horn as it narrowly missed him. Frank noticed the name on the van’s side: "Caplan’s." When he looked down, the confused policeman saw that he was unexpectedly standing in the road. The off-duty policeman crossed the road and saw that Dillons Book Store now had "Cripps" over its entrances. More confused, he looked in to see not books, but women’s handbags and shoes.

Looking around, Frank realized people were dressed in clothes that appeared to be from the 1940s. Suddenly, he spotted a young girl in her early 20’s dressed in a lime-colored sleeveless top. The handbag she was carrying had a popular brand name on it, which reassured the policeman that maybe he was still partly in 1996. It was a paradox, but he was relieved, and he followed the girl into Cripps.

As the pair went inside, Frank watched in amazement as the interior of the building completely changed in a flash to that of Dillons Bookshop of 1996. The girl turned to leave and Frank lightly grasped the girl’s arm to attract attention and said,

"Did you see that?"

She replied, "Yeah! I thought it was a clothes shop. I was going to look around, but it’s a bookshop."

It was later determined that Cripps and Caplan’s were businesses based in Liverpool during the 1950s. Whether these businesses were based in the locations specified in the story has not been confirmed. 1

Frank’s experience is not that unusual in the realm of strange phenomenon. There is even a name given to such events -- time slips.

A time slip is an event where it appears that some other era has briefly intruded on the present. A time slip seems to be spontaneous in nature and localization, but there are places on the planet that seem to be more prone than others to time slip events. As well, some people may be more inclined to experience time slips than others.

If time then is the unmovable force that physicists say it is, why do some people have experiences that seem to flaunt this concept?


elshaper 09-12-2018 12:58 PM

How it's done...
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Tag: FAKE news, lies

Interesting....just reading comments, many people have mentioned about shift.
I kids you not, I've only seen this video this morning but on Saturday, I was thinking it was Friday but it was already Saturday and thinking on Saturday, where did Friday go? I skipped? LOL Then she posted about dimensional shift. :eek:
So staying FOREVER Young may be possible. ;)

grimstock 14-12-2018 04:33 PM

The Mystery of the Versailles Time Slip

The Moberly-Jourdain incident.

PART ONE – The Original Time Slip of 1901

It is only in the last two years that I became familiar with what is usually referred to as the Moberly-Jourdain incident, or the Ghosts of the Trianon, thanks to my friend Patrick Bernauw. In August of 1901, two highly educated English women, women of impeccable reputation, Charlotte Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain, were visiting the gardens of Versailles. Moberly was the president of St Hugh’s College in Oxford, and Jourdain was her assistant at the time (who also went on to an esteemed academic career).

Here is a highly abridged version of what happened to Moberly and Jourdain. I will follow it with my own, very different yet potentially related, experience:

On 10 August 1901, Moberly and Jourdain toured the palace of Versailles, which apparently neither of them were really impressed with (this becomes potentially important later as a theme) but they got lost along the way to the smaller Trianon Palace(s) in the gardens. Now, this is not hard to do, and whereas I have personally been to Versailles many times, I still get lost in the miles – yes, miles – of gardens. The tree lined avenues are long and confusing in the way they intersect and lead to different areas of the main and smaller palaces. And there is a strange, disconcerting feeling to the gardens at certain times of the day which I cannot fully explain. But I will say that I have had emotional – to the point of erratic – overload while walking those avenues myself, so I think that naturally sensitive people are prone to the inherent mysteries of Versailles.

Back to 1901, the Englishwomen missed the turn for the main avenue after discovering that the Grand Trianon was closed. They went in search of the Petite Trianon (most famously known as Marie Antoinette’s private little palace) and found themselves off track and on a smaller lane. Charlotte Moberly saw a woman shaking a white cloth out of the window of a small stone cottage and Jourdain noticed what appeared to be a deserted farmhouse, where an old plow or wheelbarrow and some farming equipment lay. At this point they claimed that they were both suddenly overwhelmed with a feeling of “oppression and dreariness.

They kept walking and came upon some men who they thought were palace gardeners. Moberly later described the men as “very dignified officials, dressed in long grayish-green coats with small three-cornered hats.” Eleanor Jourdain reported passing a cottage with a woman and a girl standing in a doorway; the woman was holding out a jug to the girl and the girl was reaching up for it – and yet somehow they appeared to be frozen in time. Jourdain described it as a “tableau vivant”, a living picture, which has been compared to a type of modern wax work. Moberly said that she did not observe the cottage, but strongly felt the atmosphere change. She wrote: “Everything suddenly looked unnatural, therefore unpleasant; even the trees seemed to become flat and lifeless, like wood worked in tapestry. There were no effects of light and shade, and no wind stirred the trees.”

They reached a place close to Marie Antoinette’s Temple of Love and came across a man sitting in the garden, who again appeared to be in period dress, wearing a cloak and large “shade” hat. But this man was foreboding. In the words of Miss Moberly, his appearance was “Most repulsive… its expression odious. His complexion was dark and rough.” Jourdain stated that “The man slowly turned his face, which was marked by smallpox; his complexion was very dark. His expression was evil and yet unseeing, and though I did not feel that he was looking particularly at us, I felt a repugnance to going past him.” A few moments later, another man who was described as “tall, with large dark eyes, and crisp curling black hair under a large sombrero hat” approached them, and showed them the way to the Petit Trianon. (I am unclear here as to what may have been happening in terms of language, but I assume this all took place in French and that the women spoke French. The quote I have found says that he spoke “in a strange accent.” I have just started reading the official Moberly and Jourdain book from 1911 recounting the experience so will provide those details when I reach them).

The women then crossed a bridge on their way to the Petit Trianon. When they reached the gardens in front of the palace, Miss Moberly witnessed an elegant lady, elaborately dressed, who appeared to be sketching. Moberly remembered, “The lady was wearing a light summer dress, on her head was a shady white hat, and she had lots of fair hair.” Moberly was confused and thought the woman was a tourist who had come to sketch the gardens, however she was dressed in what again appeared to be period costume. Moberly would later say that she absolutely believed that the woman was Marie Antoinette after viewing a specific portrait of the Queen and recognizing her. Miss Jourdain did not see this woman, however.

Read more:

I remember first reading about this many years ago, - If I remember correctly, one of the ladies kept slipping in and out of time on returning to Oxford, but I cannot remember which one. However, there should be lots of sites with the full story.

grimstock 14-12-2018 06:31 PM

We have all been here before.

cosmicpurpose1.618 15-12-2018 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by clunks (Post 1062128477)
Can we spot this once it has happened?

Apparently if you have strong deja vu it is a sign that your time-line has been changed.

oneriver 15-12-2018 12:02 PM

So if all time (the past, present and future) is always existing at once and always running concurrently on an infinite loop then our "reality" is defined only by at what point our consciousness drops into or becomes present in the looped (artificial) time matrix.

Therefore to experience different possible realities, or to make 'other' realities real in your experienced conscious 'now timeline', all you have to do is sort of jump out of the consciousness stream you are in, move up or down river and then jump back in again at a different point - past present or future..??

oneriver 15-12-2018 12:06 PM


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<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/125628236">THE MOBERLY~JOURDAIN INCIDENT</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/alphadraconian">BARRY DOMINIC GRAHAM</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>


grimstock 15-12-2018 07:00 PM

Everything You Should Know About The Moberly-Jourdain Incident


August 10, 1901: Time Travel and Ghosts! The Moberly-Jourdain Incident

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oneriver 16-12-2018 11:18 AM

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cosmicpurpose1.618 16-12-2018 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by oneriver (Post 1063051790)

Thank goodness people are starting to post on another platform other than youtube

grimstock 16-12-2018 04:43 PM

Five Alleged Time Slip Cases

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5 More Time Slip Cases

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grimstock 16-12-2018 09:37 PM

More on Bold Street, Liverpool


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