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iamawaveofthesea 27-05-2015 05:57 PM

Backlash against truth movement is brewing
 
Cameron is now speaking about punishing people who question the official line with 'extremist disruption orders' as well as punishing 'trolls' online; these orders are aimed at curtailing peoples ability to speak out against the government for example by discussing what are dismissively called by the system 'conspiracy theories'

As we all know language is open to abuse and an 'extremist' or a 'troll' or a 'terrorist' is anyone the government says is one

he is saying that it doesn't matter if anyone has broken the law the government will harress them if it deems them a threat to its authority

He is also saying that anyone who questions the official conspiracy theory of 911 is an 'extremist'

As part of the ongoing war over the public consciousness he is now authorising GCHQ to hack peoples computers

We also have spy agency heads meeting google and apple heads for secret meetings

Bizarrely as camoron and his tory pals (labour and the lib dems are in on it too) are busy protecting high ranking pedophiles from prosecution he is changing the law to send any members of the public caught trading dodgy photos online to jail for 14 years

Why would he increase sentencing for pedos when he is busy protecting pedos?

All these pieces seem to begin to fit together in a very disturbing way....

I remember watching a clip by luke rudowski once where he mentioned receiving an email with a link. He didn't click on the link and received advice from a knowledgable friend who told him that the link would have led him to a site where he would have been exposed to compromising photos

So....is it possible that extremist disruption orders (asbos for conspiracy theorists) are going to be slapped on small time bloggers to shut them up whilst something more malevolent is being planned for more influential members of the truth movement?

I once read a book written by SAS author andy mcnab about his time in 7 squadron. Aside from all his fellow squadron members dying in strange circumstances something else about the book stuck in my memory

During the troubles in ireland the SAS did black ops where they sought to smear opponents by planting homosexual pornography in their homes then getting journalists to wait outside their house as police searched the house.

The targetted victim of the false sting operation would be pulled into a vehicle by the SAS who would tell him that unless he turned he would be stitched up as a homosexual (seen in those days as something that would compromise a person in that position and may even get them killed by their own people) with the press waiting on hand to report the planted materials

In the end the target tells the SAS to go fuck themselves and that his community would believe him over them and the operation failed; but it illustrates the kind of dirty games that go on

So could it be possible that the system is going to hack computers and place compromising materials on them to try and stitch up truthers?

Also the BBC seems on their news station to be portraying the abuse stories as 'historic', thereby trying to suggest to the public listener/viewers that the danger is over and that abuse is not still being perpetrated at the top levels of society

But also they are saying in response to the recent police announcements of the scale of the investigation that abuse is prevalent through every strata of society thereby trying to shift blame off the establishment and onto wider society

Obviously abuse does go on in society but the abuses in the establishment have a ritualistic dimension to them (black magic)

It is just the kind of thing that would appeal to the sick sense of humour of the black lodge to try and turn the pedophile frenzy onto their opponents thereby deflecting its potential to topple their system

I don't know what the system is planning to do by hacking the publics computers beyond intelligence gathering but these clandestine meetings with apple and google suggest that something is brewing

They are hatching a plan

So be careful out there comrades.....and be careful what links you open and click on

iamawaveofthesea 02-03-2016 09:50 AM

Meet the Bogus Technology the Government Will Use to Frame You

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iamawaveofthesea 02-03-2016 09:54 AM

The snoopers charter will allow police and intelligence services to hack computers which will enable them to plant false evidence on peoples computers

Then they can use their dragnet key word search algorithms and other excuses to justify the targetting of their intended target who they can then frame

This snoopers charter is not about fighting terrorism it is about fighting any opposition to government/the state

Police surveillance powers expanded in new ‘snoopers’ charter’
Published time: 1 Mar, 2016 15:00

Police powers will be extended in the new draft of the ‘snoopers charter’ to enable them to access people’s web browsing histories and to hack into phones.

The revised Investigatory Powers Bill published on Tuesday defies criticisms from three separate parliamentary committees by expanding the most controversial powers, including the collection and storage of everyone’s web browsing history for 12 months and government powers to hack into citizens’ computers and smartphones.

https://www.rt.com/uk/334123-snooper...ampaign=chrome

gymgenius 03-03-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062690077)
The snoopers charter will allow police and intelligence services to hack computers which will enable them to plant false evidence on peoples computers

It is exactly for this reason that I have just got rid of all writable media (external Hard Drives, USB sticks etc) AND sold my laptop. What I did need to keep, I've burned onto m-disc DVDs which are now read only - so nothing can be added to them, and I don't have any devices that could have stuff planted onto them.

Chris Spivey alleges that the cops planted some dodgy files on his computers when they raided his house last year.

iamawaveofthesea 04-03-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gymgenius (Post 1062690513)
It is exactly for this reason that I have just got rid of all writable media (external Hard Drives, USB sticks etc) AND sold my laptop. What I did need to keep, I've burned onto m-disc DVDs which are now read only - so nothing can be added to them, and I don't have any devices that could have stuff planted onto them.

Chris Spivey alleges that the cops planted some dodgy files on his computers when they raided his house last year.

nice one!

what do you use to go on the internet?

gymgenius 04-03-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062691145)
nice one!

what do you use to go on the internet?

Currently an Ipad, but I'm reviewing that at the moment.
It has nothing stored on it apart from Internet bookmarks.

iamawaveofthesea 04-03-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gymgenius (Post 1062691185)
Currently an Ipad, but I'm reviewing that at the moment.
It has nothing stored on it apart from Internet bookmarks.

its a tricky one isn't it?

apple are in that struggle with the FBI at the moment over encryption

perosnally i believe that its all wide open already because apple are part of the corporate network and the corporate network has planned backdoors into their tech from the beginning because a major part of the tech is to spy on the populace but to sugar coat the technology as entertainment or as social necessity

the tech is in effect a backdoor into our lives

gymgenius 04-03-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062691188)
its a tricky one isn't it?

apple are in that struggle with the FBI at the moment over encryption

perosnally i believe that its all wide open already because apple are part of the corporate network and the corporate network has planned backdoors into their tech from the beginning because a major part of the tech is to spy on the populace but to sugar coat the technology as entertainment or as social necessity

the tech is in effect a backdoor into our lives

:agreed:

My ipad has a complex passcode, is set to wipe itself after five attempts, and never leaves the house...but the big thing is the Internet Connection Record aspect of the Investigatory Powers Bill.

I guess the best we could do is hope to make that data collection as complex as possible by renewing / trying to force a change of IP address quite regularly. Unless a side-effect of the legislation might be that all ISPs start giving their customer's static IP addresses...in which case, I'll go and do all my surfing parked up outside the local McDonald's!

iamawaveofthesea 04-03-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gymgenius (Post 1062691195)
:agreed:

My ipad has a complex passcode, is set to wipe itself after five attempts, and never leaves the house...but the big thing is the Internet Connection Record aspect of the Investigatory Powers Bill.

I guess the best we could do is hope to make that data collection as complex as possible by renewing / trying to force a change of IP address quite regularly. Unless a side-effect of the legislation might be that all ISPs start giving their customer's static IP addresses...in which case, I'll go and do all my surfing parked up outside the local McDonald's!

they won't chase everyone for illegal downloading of music or films just people they don't like

iamawaveofthesea 01-04-2016 08:59 AM

Targeting America: The FBI, COINTELPRO, and Project Pedophile
In today’s COINTEL Program, one of the FBI’s favorite soft kill tactics is to label targeted individuals as pedophiles, rapists, sexual deviants or "mentally unstable" in order to isolate and destroy them
By XKeyscore -
March 30, 2016

The goal of today’s COINTELPRO is in part based on what are referred to as the 5 D’s by the United Kingdom’s General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). The 5 D’s are Deny, Deceive, Disrupt, Degrade, and inevitably Destroy the target.

Well who are the targets one might logically ask next? If one looks at potential threats through the eyes of the federal government, they will soon discover that NRA members, returning veterans, activists, whistle-blowers, watch-dog bloggers, and investigative journalists are lumped in with the likes of al Qaeda and ISIS operatives. In many cases these “domestic threats” are considered to be more of a risk than actual terrorists.

read more here: https://www.intellihub.com/targeting...ect-pedophile/

iamawaveofthesea 03-05-2016 09:33 AM

David Cameron to announce new extremist crackdown in Queen’s speech
Written by:Agnes Chambre
3rd May 2016

The legislation will include measures to gag individuals, close down premises and ban organisations.

The bill will also extend laws so employers will be able to find out if applicants have extremist backgrounds, and then they can be prevented from working with children.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-new-extremist

markritter 03-05-2016 11:37 AM

I wonder how far it will go

markritter 03-05-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gymgenius (Post 1062691195)
:agreed:

My ipad has a complex passcode, is set to wipe itself after five attempts, and never leaves the house...but the big thing is the Internet Connection Record aspect of the Investigatory Powers Bill.

I guess the best we could do is hope to make that data collection as complex as possible by renewing / trying to force a change of IP address quite regularly. Unless a side-effect of the legislation might be that all ISPs start giving their customer's static IP addresses...in which case, I'll go and do all my surfing parked up outside the local McDonald's!

Wont they be able to track your MAC address? did you register your ipad? if so they may still be able to make the link.

iamawaveofthesea 03-05-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by markritter (Post 1062723838)
I wonder how far it will go

they'll go as far as people let them go

jhar26 03-05-2016 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062723802)
David Cameron to announce new extremist crackdown in Queen’s speech
Written by:Agnes Chambre
3rd May 2016

The legislation will include measures to gag individuals, close down premises and ban organisations.

The bill will also extend laws so employers will be able to find out if applicants have extremist backgrounds, and then they can be prevented from working with children.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-new-extremist

I guess this means that governments will be banned and that Cameron will be prevented from working with children. I don't want to kill, rape or hurt anyone. We're not the extremists - THEY are the ones with the extremist background, foreground and no matter what part of their ground you look at.

iamawaveofthesea 03-05-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jhar26 (Post 1062723920)
I guess this means that governments will be banned and that Cameron will be prevented from working with children. I don't want to kill, rape or hurt anyone. We're not the extremists - THEY are the ones with the extremist background, foreground and no matter what part of their ground you look at.

i was once threatened by a member of the israeli military online who said is should be gassed

THAT'S extremism!

I would never argue that anyone should be gassed (or receive any other form of violence)

But there's a double standard at work

ramirez 03-05-2016 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062723998)
i was once threatened by a member of the israeli military online who said is should be gassed

THAT'S extremism!

I would never argue that anyone should be gassed (or receive any other form of violence)

But there's a double standard at work

Exactly, merely looking at information extreme ?

Good grief, we truly do live in a very, very strange reality.

donjuan 03-05-2016 07:58 PM

You want big government, this is what you get.

You have a choice between big government Tory and bigger government labour.

Cryptoverse 03-05-2016 08:53 PM

I totally agree waves. I've been seeing this unfold for a while. As soon as Cameron spoke to the UN about extremism and conspiracy belief I knew this was going to unfold as part of their agenda.

Cameron is the beta test for the world perhaps.

iamawaveofthesea 03-05-2016 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donjuan (Post 1062724116)
You want big government, this is what you get.

You have a choice between big government Tory and bigger government labour.

they are both AUTHORITARIAN and believe in enslaving the workers under a powerful STATE

they are two masks on the same face


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