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ronisron 03-01-2015 01:24 PM

One more for the Paul is Dead theory... why not?
 
First off, I am not of the mind that Paul McCartney actually died as the rumor says. Some of the proof is laughable. One of the things they get hung up on, for instance, is this patch;

http://opp-rousseau.weebly.com/uploa...49/5305494.jpg

On his arm on the Sgt Pepper cover. It's folded over a little and the second "P" looks like a D. These folks say it means "Officially Pronounced Dead", but it is the badge of the Ontario Provincial Police.

But I watched this video last night;

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Start watching from about 7:25 in moving forward. Those who are so inclined will immediately notice that as "reptilian shapeshifting" and the way it's displayed in the video is creepy as hell. I have gotten the serious heebie jeebies watching "The Winged Beatle" series, as they loosely atempt to portray Paul as Satanic. All it is are images and music played together... it's just unsettling. But also in the above ^ video at 8:18, Paul says "There are two Paul McCartney's", and that's what I think is really at the crux of the Paul is Dead theories, where people assume he died and was replaced.

It appears in a lot of the footage or photos from the later stages of the Beatles career that Paul was occasionally taller than Lennon, occasionally shorter, the original pics of the Beatles show Lennon to be the tallest of all of them. People do continue to grow into their early 20's -- I had a friend who grew an additional 2 inches taller at 25 -- so that could explain it. But again, at different times and dates, the pics vary. Maybe, as they do now, those who organize these kinds of things arrogantly put clues into things which showed when the "stand in" Paul was being used, and this was picked up by slightly off base researchers as to the proof that Paul is dead.

The Sgt Pepper album cover is a funeral of sorts, and maybe that signifies a death of the old Beatles, who are standing off to the side in wax, and this mixes with the new Beatles, who have a much taller Paul in their midst. The new Beatles has two Paul McCartney's, the real one, and an occasional stand in.

Why do this? I think the Beatles were responsible for a lot of things, primarily being used as the foil to usher in the era of the '60's, I believe their music was sonically manipulated to be psychologically penetrating and they were also part of the grand LSD experiment. The Beatles were also used to put a definitive halt to the sixties when it wa claimed Charles Manson used the White Album and LSD to hypnotize people to kill for him. How many people were listening to the White Album, or the Beatles in general while on LSD in the sixties?? The message is "This is what all these kids could turn out to be". The "'60's counter culture revolution" was a nasty psy op that most still can't comprehend was a psy op. Some good came of it, there's no denying that, but the overall intent was just for the sake of experimentation with LSD, music and mind control on a mass scale. I think the reason behind having two McCartney's was part of the psyop the Beatles represented. They'll put it right in your face. They don't care if you notice, they care about the ones that don't. That's the "target audience". They can move famous people in and out, and no one would notice.....

I think McCartney is a creepy, elite..... bastard that has excellent PR behind him, and a wall of protection that keeps any serious scrutiny away. Paul is definitely up to no good. He's all up in this, Sir Paul is and at this point, he's a Grand Wizard. Very powerful in that realm they occupy.

Personal opinions aside on his former wife Heather Mills, who got what she bargained for.... to a point. She said on a TV interview that she had a whole box of evidence that she was prepared to give someone, and even if she was "topped off" that this person was ensured to get the evidence and that everyone would know what McCartney was really all about.

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From 1:16 moving forward. The above is also an interesting view on the theory, especially if you change the view from Paul is Dead, to Paul is a really nasty bugger who may have had a stand in or a clone.....


Last, George calling him Faul twice. Is this about Paul being a complete phony?? Or we just don't know which Paul we are dealing with?

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He has no distortion on any other P sounds.... he is saying "Faul". Is this just the Beatles inner dialogue amongst themselves? Is Faul code for false Paul, or just "Fucking Paul.....:mad:"?

There is something very nasty about McCartney. Very nasty...

dentedarthur 03-01-2015 01:54 PM

Is this the same Paul McCartney that Kanye West has thrust into the limelight ?
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...-1227173686600

mister 03-01-2015 02:05 PM

One thing for sure his music has been dead for 30 odd years :)
The Last good song he wrote was I thnk was pipes of peace in the early 80s
How can such a great songwriter with the Beatles suddenly become crap.

I might add I don't believe the rumour Paul McCartney died either
That's just rubbish but just shows conspiracy theory's have been around
For a long time and didn't start with the Internet.

ronisron 03-01-2015 07:57 PM

The Winged Beatle, extended version widescreen. This is bizarre and in some spots down right freaky. The Crowley asociation/influence is there, Manson is there, including how an inscription on the door at Spahn Ranch wound up on Abbey Road "1,2,3,4,5,6,7 All Good Children....(Go To Heaven) except Abbey Road came out after that...etc. Specific references to Crowley and th Book of Magick at 17:15 and 27:15.

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The oft repeated backwards masking of "Turn me on dead man" (Forwards, backwards -- above below) could be an invocation of Crowley. I know some of you all need the Beatles to be The friendly - old - of - course - they're - not - associated - with - anything - nasty Beatles, but ..... it just isn't like that. At all.

kiwi_ 04-01-2015 12:06 AM

The person who edited the Winged Beatle movie did a great job, i'll give him that. If I didn't know better it would almost have me believing that Paul died.

i_am 04-01-2015 12:56 AM

Why not?

Because there are about 10 pages of threads on this subject. I doubt you will come up with anything that has not been discussed before ie this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102300

They were closed for a reason and if this thread attracts the same infighting, it will be closed too.

ronisron 04-01-2015 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_ (Post 1062357988)
The person who edited the Winged Beatle movie did a great job, i'll give him that. If I didn't know better it would almost have me believing that Paul died.

I don't see it as "Paul is Dead". Not literally. Paul died in a "way", but not in the physical sense. Paul was the "adept" in the Beatles, they were all initiated, but Paul was the one who really took to the occult and magick aspects of it. It's tough for people to grasp this kind of thing, but I think it's important. The Beatles are Ground Zero in regards to the infiltration of the Intelligence agencies and the exertion of their control over the music business, the introduction of Crowley to the masses that people like Jay Z still promote to this day. The Beatles were the first to offer these hand signals to the youth, the horned salute, and the 666 hand sign.

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbt...ennonDevil.jpg

Everyone does this now, everyone is initiated thanks to the groundbreaking work of "everybody's favorite band of all time" The Beatles. If someone can show me a popular, very well known entertainer(s) before the Beatles doing this, I'd like to see it. Paul knew Terry Melcher and the first time Lennon did LSD was in Melcher's house, where the Tate murders occurred 3 years later.

Paul didn't die, but you can see in the excellent Winged Beatle doc, he wasn't the only one being "Paul" in the late '60's. And that is weird.

ronisron 04-01-2015 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by i_am (Post 1062358012)
Why not?

Because there are about 10 pages of threads on this subject. I doubt you will come up with anything that has not been discussed before ie this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102300

They were closed for a reason and if this thread attracts the same infighting, it will be closed too.

Thanks, but I'm not saying Paul is Dead. I'm saying there's much more to the picture of The Beatles and Paul McCartney than meets the eye, and using some of the Paul is Dead docs to illustrate my point. No need to put the cart before the horse......

kiwi_ 04-01-2015 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronisron (Post 1062358018)
The Beatles were the first to offer these hand signals to the youth, the horned salute, and the 666 hand sign.

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbt...ennonDevil.jpg

Everyone does this now, everyone is initiated thanks to the groundbreaking work of "everybody's favorite band of all time" The Beatles. If someone can show me a popular, very well known entertainer(s) before the Beatles doing this, I'd like to see it. Paul knew Terry Melcher and the first time Lennon did LSD was in Melcher's house, where the Tate murders occurred 3 years later.

A quick google brought this up.

http://theweek.com/article/index/242...n-ok-come-from

There's probably info around about the 'baphomet' hand gesture as well.

ronisron 04-01-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_ (Post 1062358052)
A quick google brought this up.

http://theweek.com/article/index/242...n-ok-come-from

There's probably info around about the 'baphomet' hand gesture as well.

Yes that's great, thanks -- but I was looking for any well known entertainers flashing the horns or 666 sign prior to the Beatles. It doesn't have to be someone as well known as the Beatles either. We could show a couple of thousand entertainers who do it now and have been for the last 25-30 years, but no one before the Beatles introduced it. Also very instrumental in bringing Aleister Crowley's work to the masses.

I wonder what Paul's DNA would turn up? Paul's a twin? His brother brought into the Beatles in the mid '60's? Their dad being Aleister Crowley? They allegedly left this photo of Crowley off of Sgt Pepper and went with others because this one looked too much like Paul....

http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/28924crowley.jpg

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Big Al himself. Listen if you want to.... it's strangely only 3:22 seconds. 322?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Bones_logo.jpg

Nazi insignia, Thule Society insignia, Skull and Bones (Yale Secret Society) insignia.... I'm just sayin'.... Strangely, Crowley wrote propaganda that was used by the Nazi's.

twilight_sparkle 04-01-2015 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_ (Post 1062357988)
The person who edited the Winged Beatle movie did a great job, i'll give him that. If I didn't know better it would almost have me believing that Paul died.

I always wonder about the dark secret Heather Mills spoke about.
The media have always made her out to be crazy and a gold digger.
Why did Paul pay £12m to destroy all the copies of the Anthology 11?
Why did George call him Faul?
What did you make of the Italian Wired magazines forensic analysis of his face?

howie 04-01-2015 05:12 PM

Iamaphoney reveals it was Faul behind the Rotten Apple series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0xjiQL_MM


Faul speaks to Eric Clapton with 3 accents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63e8WRjiPyc

Katy Perry makes devil horn sign when they talk about PID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV4wvvyWkag

Jonathan Ross says "you were dead" to Faul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqYHDgmIho4

techman 04-01-2015 06:38 PM

Why are some people so convinced McCartney was replaced and that he died?, yet others suggest he could've had a double or had a twin brother?. If Paul had a twin brother, wouldn't the people he grew up with (he did actually come from a normal background, from a normal town in Liverpool - well that's what we're told) know he had a twin brother?, or was this brother never seen or talked about?. I doubt Paul or the rest were anything other than ordinary people before they hit it big time, I think things went abit crazy after that, that's the way showbiz and being in the limelight does to you. All of their upbringing, childhood history, schools, etc would've had to have been completely fabricated or covered up., and there's just far too many documents and literature on them for that to happen.

As for them using satanic hand gestures, most people just say it's nothing but rather just an old marketing gimmick that's been used for years by the industry. I agree though that it's strange there is no real evidence of that sign being used prior to them, it's strange others around the time like Elvis haven't been photographed using the horned sign - I haven't seen any yet, but maybe it's a boy band image thing?. You gotta realise alot of things happened in the 60s. To most people born in the 40s and 50s and growing up in their teens and 20s in the 60s it was a fantastic time to be alive. The decade of the 1960s seems to be the one which conjures up a very nostalgic and memorable period, topping all the other decades before or since. Everytime I ask my dad his faviour time in his life he will immediately say the 1960s, but not for the Beatles and that boy band rubbish which kinda destroyed what could've been a better decade. The 60s seems to have a deep emotional impact on the minds of people growing up at the time, it's like it was the golden decade: I do believe nothing has EVER come close. Maybe the 60s was a big social experiment or turning point, and the Beatles were a big part of that amongst the other cultural icons of the time. To think we had the best music at the time (Elvis, Johnny Cash, Roy Oribison, et al were around, The Beatles and Stones were creating hystria), fashions were changing, we had cars which looked sexy like the E-Type, Hollywood was churning out the big great classics and cultural and iconic films, alot of things were happening in politics, and so on.

ronisron 04-01-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
I always wonder about the dark secret Heather Mills spoke about.

I don't know, but you can tell when someone is afraid for their lives...

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
The media have always made her out to be crazy and a gold digger.

It's easy to do, she didn't help her cause at first. She did settle for millions, as is her right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
Why did Paul pay £12m to destroy all the copies of the Anthology 11?

According to the 1st video in Howie's post, it has a song called "It Was a Fake Moustache" which is what is believed to be said when you play Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band" backwards. It was too strong of a clue to give away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
Why did George call him Faul?

Fake Paul, or as I suggested "Fucking Paul" said angrily, twin Paul?

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
What did you make of the Italian Wired magazines forensic analysis of his face?

To be fair, that was about photographs. Depending on the angle, lighting exposure, etc, you can have the same person in two photos and swear it was not the same, depending on any of the mentioned variables. That includes the skull too, when it comes to distinguishing characteristics. It would be nice to have the actual subject... Still, they have an opinion, and they feel it's valid. they've offered their proof.

ronisron 04-01-2015 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howie (Post 1062358542)
Iamaphoney reveals it was Faul behind the Rotten Apple series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0xjiQL_MM

I've never seen that before... awesome. First suitcase found at Spahn Ranch?? manson Family?? Come on.... contained pics of Crowley and the Book of the Law, McCartney still pushing Crowley, flashing images of him on the video screens behind him during his concerts. John still alive? I've heard that rumor too. There's a Canadian independent film called Let Him Be about Lennon faking his death and moving to Ontario. One man started a blog saying it's real, and that it was actually Lennon... it is a great movie, well done.


Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358457)
Faul speaks to Eric Clapton with 3 accents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63e8WRjiPyc

Katy Perry makes devil horn sign when they talk about PID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV4wvvyWkag

Jonathan Ross says "you were dead" to Faul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqYHDgmIho4

Clapton has his own problems, Katy and Paul were kinda touchy-feely there..... poor Katy. Now, she can't remember a thing. Ross was joking.

The first video... I wouldn't be surprised if paul was behind the Winged Beatle at all, it's what gives it such an air of authenticity, and why it's so unsetling. "Paul was transformed somehow in the mid '60's"... Thanks that's my thoughts on it too. Not dead, changed. And they were using a double, a stand in at times. That's what f***s people up, there really was someone standing in for him at times.

ronisron 04-01-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman (Post 1062358624)
Why are some people so convinced McCartney was replaced and that he died?, yet others suggest he could've had a double or had a twin brother?. If Paul had a twin brother, wouldn't the people he grew up with (he did actually come from a normal background, from a normal town in Liverpool - well that's what we're told) know he had a twin brother?, or was this brother never seen or talked about?. I doubt Paul or the rest were anything other than ordinary people before they hit it big time, I think things went abit crazy after that, that's the way showbiz and being in the limelight does to you. All of their upbringing, childhood history, schools, etc would've had to have been completely fabricated or covered up., and there's just far too many documents and literature on them for that to happen.

You sound like what I would believe the majority of folks think about the Beatles "They were four lads from Liverpool who changed music history... fame / success will do that to you..... people are crazy....etc" A lot of people see that there is more to the Beatles than meets the eye. It's a fascinating subject that has roots in fact. The Beatles did backwards masking in their music -- admittedly. "The true adept will be able to read.speak and write forwards and backwards", from Crowley's Book of Magick, as well as how they are posed on the cover of Help!, all poses from Crowley's Book of Magick.

Check this out. A few years before he dies, randy Aleister has an affair with a nurse. He'd have been 66 or 67 when Paul was conceived. She gives birth to twins. One is taken by the father and his reps, one is taken by the mother and raised as Paul. if you're so inclined, let your mind wander from there, and please watch the videos if you feel like it, if nothing else, you won't think of the Beatles the ame way anymore, and IMO, that's perfectly fine.



Quote:

Originally Posted by techman (Post 1062358624)
As for them using satanic hand gestures, most people just say it's nothing but rather just an old marketing gimmick that's been used for years by the industry. I agree though that it's strange there is no real evidence of that sign being used prior to them, it's strange others around the time like Elvis haven't been photographed using the horned sign - I haven't seen any yet, but maybe it's a boy band image thing?. You gotta realise alot of things happened in the 60s. To most people born in the 40s and 50s and growing up in their teens and 20s in the 60s it was a fantastic time to be alive. The decade of the 1960s seems to be the one which conjures up a very nostalgic and memorable period, topping all the other decades before or since. Everytime I ask my dad his faviour time in his life he will immediately say the 1960s, but not for the Beatles and that boy band rubbish which kinda destroyed what could've been a better decade. The 60s seems to have a deep emotional impact on the minds of people growing up at the time, it's like it was the golden decade: I do believe nothing has EVER come close. Maybe the 60s was a big social experiment or turning point, and the Beatles were a big part of that amongst the other cultural icons of the time. To think we had the best music at the time (Elvis, Johnny Cash, Roy Oribison, et al were around, The Beatles and Stones were creating hystria), fashions were changing, we had cars which looked sexy like the E-Type, Hollywood was churning out the big great classics and cultural and iconic films, alot of things were happening in politics, and so on.

Yes, there was an agenda behind the sixties, and the Beatles were a big part of that agenda. The hand signs -- Fashion, or an homage? The Beatles introduced those signs to the vernacular if you will, and they are used all over the place and all the time now.

iamwhoam 04-01-2015 07:51 PM

What about the name Ringo Starr? As in ringed star? As in Saturn? As in the god of the secret societies?

ronisron 04-01-2015 08:21 PM

How many Paul's??? :confused:

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twilight_sparkle 04-01-2015 08:47 PM

A great many celebrity backstories are fabricated, you need only to look at the X Factor to know that, eg Leona Lewis being a secretary, when really she was an already signed artist who had been working with Ludacris and went to the Brit School! Adele and Katherine Jenkins also.

I think that what tends to happen is the record company has a concept for a new " product", and have to cast an actor to play the role given to them. Britain's Got Talent, has done this twice with rags to riches stories, Paul Potts and Susan Boyle, both actors who were scouted to play storylines written for them just like in WWE wrestling!

ronisron 04-01-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilight_sparkle (Post 1062358780)
A great many celebrity backstories are fabricated, you need only to look at the X Factor to know that, eg Leona Lewis being a secretary, when really she was an already signed artist who had been working with Ludacris and went to the Brit School! Adele and Katherine Jenkins also.

I think that what tends to happen is the record company has a concept for a new " product", and have to cast an actor to play the role given to them. Britain's Got Talent, has done this twice with rags to riches stories, Paul Potts and Susan Boyle, both actors who were scouted to play storylines written for them just like in WWE wrestling!

Exactly... people take music bios to heart, and they can say whatever the artist or record company wants them to say. They may even be prewritten and they go looking for, as you put it, the actors to play the parts that were written in that bio.

The Beatles "Biography" has been repeated verbatim in every MSM article, book, movie, radio program.... hundreds of times in as many different places. The repetition and sheer volume of it is what makes it stick as real, just like having false history hammered into our brains at school.

It doesn't mean it's real and exact down to the letter though, it may be a complete lie. How much is the Beatles "Industry" worth? Billions? Easily. there are people who would keep their mouth shut/kill for a lot less than that.


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