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skyver 17-01-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by purple rain (Post 1058559716)
Why are you against his free speech?

Thank you.

Zarah the reason why I do not attack her points was because she has already made her mind up.

What mysticmolly doesn't get is that alot of people are fed up with certain situations (such as immigration) in this country. But instead of her looking at the true cause, she attacks by race.

I too am pissed of about how the immigration system is set up within the uk. But I don't blame the people for using it. I blame the govt & the elite, they knew what would happen & they have an agenda. mm can't see this.

I admit I was a bit bad tempered with her but it was the 1st post that I read in the morning so it probably set me off.

Maybe I should keep away from the general threads & stick to the ones about rising to a higher level etc. A couple of yrs ago when i 1st found this forum it was full of open minded debate, now it degenerates into this sort of drivel.

Who remembers 2tuff! Well MM he still runs a site that you should check out, it would be peas in a pod. In fact you probably are already on there, as well as stormfront etc....

father ted 17-01-2010 04:08 PM

Stop it
 
Lets cut the crap. Southern itay isn't the best place to put black imigrants. No need to explain why...

zarah 17-01-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by purple rain (Post 1058559789)
Not even close. Calling it such is a tool to suppress free speech. You can't be the arbiter of what curtails free speech can you?

Closer than you obviously realise.

I can absolutely see why youd agree that attacking someone personally is the same as attacking the content of their posts though.

purple rain 17-01-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058560516)
Closer than you obviously realise.

I can absolutely see why youd agree that attacking someone personally is the same as attacking the content of their posts though.



Oh because you would never attack anyone in your life. Never ever. Not if you came face to face with Adolf or Sharon and they stood there ordering your family out.

zarah 17-01-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058559964)
Hi zarah

Thanks for your comment.

You will note this is not my thread and I have not started a thread on this type of topic for a while.

Most of my topics are simply what I am studying at the time or what is going on for me at the time.

Some here are real passionate on this subject, for me it was simply something to learn about and I have shared much of what I have learned, some will appreciate that and others not.

But the people here who throw me into the white power camp are quite wrong ... I am not white power or a Nazi lover or any of that crap they accuse me of ... just simply someone who sees a very unequal and unfair situation developing.

For those who say it is natural to race mix, I see that the numbers still support the opposite as being true ... people in general marry someone of the same race and further more, usually the same culture.

As for people attacking the person with cheap shots rather than the information ... well .. what can say, some on here are too immature and silly for words.

I totally see that you're impassioned and I also think that you don't see anything negative with what you post, but imagine if we all thought like you? Imagine if we all judged people based on the colour of their skin, and believed that there should be physical and mental boundaries between races.

I agree with you that dominant western cultures are being dliuted. Absolutely. I haven't read or seen anything which makes me think differently, but that isn't the fault of the non-white person who's country's been raped and pillaged by the same body of people who then erode borders to allow mass migration. They just want a better life for them and their families and there's nothing wrong with that.

There's a way forward for sure, but I don't think it's to continually add to the negativity in the way that you seem to do.
We need to unify, all of us, doesn't matter what your race or religion is and stand up to 'them'. We need to demand a fairer system for everyone, the abolishment of the World Bank and the IMF. Natural resources belong to the people of an entire country, not to the grubby handed murderer in power.

I urge you to read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine.

zarah 17-01-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skyver (Post 1058560460)
Thank you.

Zarah the reason why I do not attack her points was because she has already made her mind up.

What mysticmolly doesn't get is that alot of people are fed up with certain situations (such as immigration) in this country. But instead of her looking at the true cause, she attacks by race.

I too am pissed of about how the immigration system is set up within the uk. But I don't blame the people for using it. I blame the govt & the elite, they knew what would happen & they have an agenda. mm can't see this.

I admit I was a bit bad tempered with her but it was the 1st post that I read in the morning so it probably set me off.

Maybe I should keep away from the general threads & stick to the ones about rising to a higher level etc. A couple of yrs ago when i 1st found this forum it was full of open minded debate, now it degenerates into this sort of drivel.

Who remembers 2tuff! Well MM he still runs a site that you should check out, it would be peas in a pod. In fact you probably are already on there, as well as stormfront etc....

I agree with your points. I think she's angry and directing that anger towards the wrong people. Sorry for snapping. I feel sorry for her.

zarah 17-01-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by purple rain (Post 1058560529)
Oh because you would never attack anyone in your life. Never ever. Not if you came face to face with Adolf or Sharon and they stood there ordering your family out.

Are you simply showing the forum that you're totally autonomous and can post anything you feel like, even if it makes no sense or are you trying to get your post count up to 1000?

purple rain 17-01-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058560554)
Are you simply showing the forum that you're totally autonomous and can post anything you feel like, even if it makes no sense or are you trying to get your post count up to 1000?


That's your response when you know you've been beaten. Either answer the question instead of avoiding it or don't say anything at all.

purple rain 17-01-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058559713)
[COLOR="Purple"]Aother yummy positive topic...fabulous.

1. Someone was referring to 'hate speech' and 'hate crime'. Both are tools to supress free speech, so why on earth are they being mentioned on this forum?


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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058559721)
He's obviously entitled to post inanely if he chooses, but it's pointless and bullying.


'pointless and bullying' is a tag as much as 'hate speech.'

Once again.

What makes you think you get to choose what free speech is? If you did believe in it, you wouldn't be tagging something as negative or pointless. And asking why the term 'hate speech' is allowed on the forum. I think clear cut racism is pretty much pointless and negative.

guzla 17-01-2010 04:34 PM

Culture is not your friend
 
1:
2:
A lot of people identify themselves way to much with their fysical appearance in here, rather then to look inside themselves...

Some people are like 3 years old in a sandbox whining about if i came to their country they wouldn't accept this and that... WELL DONT SINCK DOWN TO THAT LEVEL THEN, and just LOVE!

Create the world you wanna live in!

Peace!

purple rain 17-01-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by guzla (Post 1058560581)
1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYB0VW5x8fI

2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU

A lot of people identify themselves way to much with their fysical appearance in here, rather then to look inside themselves...

Some people are like 3 years old in a sandbox whining about if i came to their country they wouldn't accept this and that... WELL DONT SINCK DOWN TO THAT LEVEL THEN, and just LOVE!

Create the world you wanna live in!

Peace!


That corresponds to my belief too. Culture is something to be overcome, not ingrained in you.

mysticmolly 17-01-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058560542)
I totally see that you're impassioned and I also think that you don't see anything negative with what you post, but imagine if we all thought like you? Imagine if we all judged people based on the colour of their skin, and believed that there should be physical and mental boundaries between races.

I agree with you that dominant western cultures are being dliuted. Absolutely. I haven't read or seen anything which makes me think differently, but that isn't the fault of the non-white person who's country's been raped and pillaged by the same body of people who then erode borders to allow mass migration. They just want a better life for them and their families and there's nothing wrong with that.

There's a way forward for sure, but I don't think it's to continually add to the negativity in the way that you seem to do.
We need to unify, all of us, doesn't matter what your race or religion is and stand up to 'them'. We need to demand a fairer system for everyone, the abolishment of the World Bank and the IMF. Natural resources belong to the people of an entire country, not to the grubby handed murderer in power.

I urge you to read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine.

Yes, this is true but it is also the NWO wish that you not notice all the problems which are caused by forcing people of different cultures and believes ... and just plain different, together.

I am addressing that issue ...

There is fuck all we can do about the NWO or their power to cause this crap.

But we can wake up to the issues and problems that it is causing and not carry on in an induced sheep sleep ...

with all this "love and love for all" ...motto ... that will just lead to more heartache and such.

drakul 18-01-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058560542)
I totally see that you're impassioned and I also think that you don't see anything negative with what you post, but imagine if we all thought like you? Imagine if we all judged people based on the colour of their skin, and believed that there should be physical and mental boundaries between races.

I agree with you that dominant western cultures are being dliuted. Absolutely. I haven't read or seen anything which makes me think differently, but that isn't the fault of the non-white person who's country's been raped and pillaged by the same body of people who then erode borders to allow mass migration. They just want a better life for them and their families and there's nothing wrong with that.

There's a way forward for sure, but I don't think it's to continually add to the negativity in the way that you seem to do.
We need to unify, all of us, doesn't matter what your race or religion is and stand up to 'them'. We need to demand a fairer system for everyone, the abolishment of the World Bank and the IMF. Natural resources belong to the people of an entire country, not to the grubby handed murderer in power.

I urge you to read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine.

You are waaay over-generalizing. For example - the vast, vast majority of illegal aliens in the US are Hispanic. They are not coming from countries that have been `raped and pillaged' by USUK as you claim. For me, as for many, it's not about `skin color' (another liberal tagline) at all, it's about being inundated by a seething mass of humanity coming from countries with no rule of law and no human rights and no concept of either. No country can withstand that kind of mass invasion and retain the legal and national structure we in the US have worked so hard to develop over the last 300 years.

Would you like to see 50,000,000 Chinese invade the UK? Would you like that? Would it improve your quality of life?

And before you trot out the race card - you should know I am in an inter-racial marriage. My Eurasian husband of 24 years is more concerned about mass illegal immigration than I am and so is his sister. They have lived it. They know the score. They understand what is at stake here.

jiffy 18-01-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drakul (Post 1058561637)
You are waaay over-generalizing. For example - the vast, vast majority of illegal aliens in the US are Hispanic. They are not coming from countries that have been `raped and pillaged' by USUK as you claim.


Yet another cognitive, I am fully aware of the poor edcuation standards in the US, very select history, even poorer Geography.

BUT are you seriously saying (without Irony)(mind you American generally don't understand Irony) that the USA has NOT exploited South American.

You couldn't make this stuff up, still I am sure one of your other cognitive "soul mates" will be along with another random quote from obscurity and provide it as proof of a conspiracy to control the "whites"

drakul 18-01-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jiffy (Post 1058562396)
Yet another cognitive, I am fully aware of the poor edcuation standards in the US, very select history, even poorer Geography.

BUT are you seriously saying (without Irony)(mind you American generally don't understand Irony) that the USA has NOT exploited South American.

You couldn't make this stuff up, still I am sure one of your other cognitive "soul mates" will be along with another random quote from obscurity and provide it as proof of a conspiracy to control the "whites"

Question (with no irony): WHAT WERE THE AZTECS AND MAYAS DOING TO EACH OTHER BEFORE THE SPANISH ARRIVED? Were they exploiting, raping, pillaging each other? Cutting each other's hearts out in ceremonies of mass human sacrifice?

BTW `edcuation' is spelled E D U C A T I O N. Just thought you might like to know that.

jiffy 18-01-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drakul (Post 1058562490)
Question (with no irony): WHAT WERE THE AZTECS AND MAYAS DOING TO EACH OTHER BEFORE THE SPANISH ARRIVED? Were they exploiting, raping, pillaging each other? Cutting each other's hearts out in ceremonies of mass human sacrifice?

BTW `edcuation' is spelled E D U C A T I O N. Just thought you might like to know that.

Interesting...two points

You appear to have fallen into the nonsense that so called historians "theorize" about ancient culture.

Second point, what relevance is this to today's world.....or are you now stating that the good old US of A is no longer exploiting Latin America:confused:

If you are going to correct my typo, then at least use the correct grammer

BTW "edcutation" is SPELT E D U C A T I O N. Just thought you MAYwish to know THIS


You see I can be fallacious

drakul 18-01-2010 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=jiffy;1058562531]
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Interesting...two points

You appear to have fallen into the nonsense that so called historians "theorize" about ancient culture.
So you think the Maya and Aztecs were not practicing human sacrifice?

Images of human sacrifice are all over their art and temples. But for you it never happened?

Quote:

Second point, what relevance is this to today's world.....or are you now stating that the good old US of A is no longer exploiting Latin America:confused:
Question - Do you think you can just walk over the border of Mexico illegally and get a job, rent a house, get a driver's license, medical attention, etc? Do you think the Mexicans will let you do that?

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If you are going to correct my typo, then at least use the correct grammer
I only correct people's spelling when they start bragging about their `edcuation'. Kinda like calling someone a `moran'.

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BTW "edcutation" is SPELT E D U C A T I O N. Just thought you MAYwish to know THIS
Check your dictionary. `SPELLED' is the first past tense of SPELL provided.

`SPELT' is 2nd (kind of a slang term for people with `edcutation' I guess). `SPELT' is also a kind of wheat.

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You see I can be fallacious
:rolleyes:

jadeinjapan 18-01-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058559964)
... people in general marry someone of the same race and further more, usually the same culture.

Well, I didn't. And it's worked out beyond well.

Thinking about my happy life, I am so overjoyed that I don't think like you do. I'd have missed out on a strong, unbelievably rewarding marriage.

The fact that we all want the same things from life and can have meaningful relationships and interactions with those outside our own 'culture' and 'race' isn't an NWO conspiracy.

real6 18-01-2010 03:18 PM

Mods: Can we get this put back into Today's news. I don't see how this is 'Big Brother / Microchipping / Problem-Reaction-Solution'

purple rain 18-01-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by real6 (Post 1058562719)
Mods: Can we get this put back into Today's news. I don't see how this is 'Big Brother / Microchipping / Problem-Reaction-Solution'

Apparently, racism is not racism. Most here term it as 'elite manipulation.' It's either new age thinking where everything is resolved by holding hands, or a mask for racism or both.


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