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iamawaveofthesea 19-11-2015 08:37 PM

Thread Split: Cultural Marxism & feminsm
 
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Originally Posted by bikerdruid (Post 1062625556)
"cultural marxism" is a misnomer.
it has as much to do with the teachings of marx as "evangelical christianity" has to do with the teachings of jesus.

NONE.

And what do you know of marx and his background?

What do you know of connections between banking families and various thinkers down through history?

What do you know of links between adam weishaupt and the rothschilds?

You seem to think marx was operating in a vacuum

I can tell you right now that ashkenazi marx, from germany was not operating in a vacuum

if you look at an issue like 'climate change' for example there can be two sides to the debate and each will push forward its 'experts' who will provide their 'evidence' to support their case

So it is in all areas. Powerful people need justifications for what they want to do to society. This is for example why they carry out false flag attacks

So for example those who wanted to push neoliberalism might push forward certain economists to support their case for that doctrine

Philosophers too down through history have been used. Neiztsche's 'will to power' has been latched onto by some authoritarians

Often the philosophers credited for certain ideas were not the originators of those ideas but are simply the first to put those ideas into an academic context and therefore get the credit for them in the eyes of the public; many ideas have ancient roots but will be associated with such and such modern philosopher

Marx was speaking about the destruction of capitalism as a vehicle for humanity

The el-ites recognised that capitalism as a vehicle will likely not run forever so they are looking for other vehicles

they want new ways to structure society and economies that will enable them to remain at the top of society and in control of it; they have latched onto marx's ideas.

Now to what extent marx was part of their network....well that would be an interesting study

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild

Nathan Mayer Rothschild

On 22 October 1806 in London, he married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levy Barent Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx

https://wideawakegentile.files.wordp...2/csaladfa.jpg

iamawaveofthesea 19-11-2015 08:56 PM

But i'll keep spelling it out for people whether you like it or not

The tensions between men and women are related to feminism and feminism is backed in extreme forms by the globalists such as george soros

All these things are connected

The question is: 'can you handle that?'

iamawaveofthesea 19-11-2015 09:33 PM

pathetic that these posts was moved from another thread because it was getting too close to the truth for some people to handle

iamawaveofthesea 19-11-2015 09:33 PM

''Why do some people hate women? Why do some people hate men? ''

...asked the OP in that thread

here's what is going on in a nutshell...

There is a move on to divide society

Powerful people are behind it; they fund groups to push divisive issues

Ashkenazi financier george soros for example funds lots of 'liberal' groups for example some groups calling themselves 'feminists'

he created a group called the 'open society institute' which funds a number of so called 'feminist' groups, the aim being to stir up antagonism between men and women

Soros is part of a network along with the rothschilds and the rockefellers and karl Marx was a relative of the rothschilds

Incidentally the bankers also supported the marxist frankfurt school which aims at targetting students for example through 'womens studies' where divisive narratives are created to drive a wedge between the sexes

So yeah....there's growing hate out there as tensions grow between the sexes and those tensions are lit and stoked by powerful globalist interests looking to break down society so that they can create a world government

the mighty zhiba 19-11-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062625664)
pathetic that these posts was moved from another thread because it was getting too close to the truth for some people to handle

The posts were split from the hating women hating men thread because they deal with a far more complex topic construct - which can be discussed here, and allow the topics being discussed in the other thread to develop further.

Cultural Marxism is a topic all on its own, and as others seem to bring it up in a variety of topics, they may also feel they can discus here indepth.

iamawaveofthesea 19-11-2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mighty Zhiba (Post 1062625680)
The posts were split from the hating women hating men thread because they deal with a far more complex topic construct - which can be discussed here, and allow the topics being discussed in the other thread to develop further.

Cultural Marxism is a topic all on its own, and as others seem to bring it up in a variety of topics, they may also feel they can discus here indepth.

no it is all connected as stated by David Icke

Trying to discuss the break down of relations between men and women without looking into cultural marxism would be like trying to explain how a car works without mentioning the engine: stupid, pointless and missleading

boots 20-11-2015 05:07 PM

Thanks for the thread split, I was going to start a thread about PC, Cultural Marxism and Liberalism, since no one else was going to do when they said they would.

boots 20-11-2015 05:26 PM

This new buzz word Cultural Marxism first originated during the Nazi era, back then they called it Cultural Bolshevism, nothing came of it until around 1973 when some guy wrote a book with the buzzword in it.

The right wing templer inspired Anders Behring Breivik who murder people in Norway wrote in his manifesto about Cultural Marxism and believed the Muslims were going to take over Europe.

This term is all based on Karl Marx communist Manifesto, but Marx never spoke about Culture, so why the smear on Marx?

Along with with the cultural marx stuff, people also link in political Liberalism. What is Liberalism?

Liberal means different things in different countries, so there is no clear definition of Political Liberalism.

peabrain 20-11-2015 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062625733)
no it is all connected as stated by David Icke

Trying to discuss the break down of relations between men and women without looking into cultural marxism would be like trying to explain how a car works without mentioning the engine: stupid, pointless and missleading

When did this breakdown happen?

There has always been friction between the men and women, much can be blamed on lack of equality.

Sorry off topic, back to the hating men/women thread.

boots 20-11-2015 09:31 PM

I thought this thread would kick off considering some people wanted to talk about it, looks like they just ran away.:confused:

I'd like to know too, when all this breakdowns accrued peabrain, none is forthcoming from those who shout the loudest.

boots 28-11-2015 03:56 AM

Rational wiki doesn't always get it right, but they got this one down to a tee.

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The term "cultural Marxism" is most commonly encountered as a snarl word decrying everything right-wingers don't like, alluding to a conspiracy theory involving sinister left-wingers in the cultural and artistic spheres, including the media and academia, supposedly being engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. With bonus anti-Semitism.



Outside of graduate seminars in the history of critical theory, the term is primarily used by reactionaries to red-bait anyone with progressive tendencies.



The conspiracist usage was prefigured in Nazi Germany, where Kulturbolschewismus ("Cultural Bolshevism") was used as a term of political abuse.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup>




In legitimate academic circles, the term was originally intended as a criticism of The Frankfurt School by more orthodox Marxists and Historical Materialists, to mock the lack of revolutionary Marxism inherent to the more Culturally inclined schools of social criticism. For this reason it has remained an informal term for describing the Frankfurt school.



Marx himself never wrote at any length about culture (what he deemed "the superstructure"), and the fact that cultural theorists have often used the lens of class, alongside other factors such as race, gender, and sexuality to analyze culture doesn't necessarily relate to Marxist classifications and is more likely to have come from the Chicago School<sup>[wp]</sup> of Sociology's emphasis on crime and criminal statistics as a source of sociological data.




The term "cultural Marxism" was first sighted around 1973, in The Critique of Domination: The Origins and Development of Critical Theory by Trent Schroyer.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> Schroyer originally coined the term as an accusation that some theorists were failed Marxists: merely cultural "Marxists" who had been subsumed by middle class capitalism. Later people like Fredric Jameson<sup>[wp]</sup> went so far as to propose renaming Cultural Studies as "Cultural Marxism" to bring the Marxism back in, though this didn't stick. The term did see some use, however, in particular being retrospectively applied to one stream of cultural studies popular in British academic circles from the 1960s through to the 1980s.



Right-wing usage

In current wingnut usage, the term is a favourite of Pat Buchanan and, to the most dangerous extent, Anders Behring Breivik. It is a Cold Warrior's way of decrying "political correctness" or "multiculturalism."<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup> It's when capitalism and democracy are still the law of the land, but they don't work exclusively for you anymore.



Despite its widespread popularity among the hard-right, many on the right have thoroughly debunked the concept as not being Marxist at all, including Christian Dominionist Gary North and Michael Acuña from Common Ruin.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[5]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference">[6]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference">[7]</sup> How to Paint Your Panda has debunked it as well.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference">[8]</sup>
It's become a favorite term of many of the nuttier Gamergaters—demonstrating the movement's attraction of many anti-Semites, white supremacists, and MRAs — to explain why those bitch slut whores won't shut up about sexism in video games.



They got their collective jockstraps in a knot when discussions on Wikipedia pre-dating their obsession with the term resulted in the "Cultural Marxism" article on Wikipedia being redirected to the "Conspiracy theory" section of Frankfurt School<sup>[wp]</sup>, restored after appealing to the God-King, no consensus after that, then deletion and redirection back to the conspiracy theory.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference">[9]</sup>
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The term is odious enough that people wanting to use it now apologise in advance,<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference">[10]</sup> much as nobody behaving in a blatantly racist manner will accept the label "racist".



The associated conspiracy theory asserts that the Frankfurt School, instead of being the relatively arcane strain of academic criticism that it was, actually was a Marxist plot to destroy the capitalist West from within, supposedly spreading its tentacles throughout academia and indoctrinating students to hate America and freedom.



Thus, rock'n'roll, the Sixties counterculture, the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, homosexuality<sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference">[12]</sup> modern feminism, and in general all the "decay" in the U.S. and elsewhere since the good old days of the Fifties are literally products of this conspiracy.<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference">[13]</sup> It's also the work of the Jews.<sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference">[14]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference">[15]</sup>
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"Political correctness" had become the popular snarl word of choice after a 1991 speech by George H. W. Bush, with ensuing press coverage and a Washington Times op-ed by Laurence Jarvik of the Heritage Foundation decrying "storm troopers" attacking "Western culture."<sup id="cite_ref-splc_15-0" class="reference">[16]</sup>
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The first usage of the phrase "cultural Marxism" in the conspiracist sense was by William Lind of the Free Congress Foundation in a July 1998 speech, "The Origins of Political Correctness", to right-wing group Accuracy in Academia, in which he described "political correctness" and "cultural Marxism" as "totalitarian ideologies" that were turning American campuses into "small ivy-covered North Koreas, where the student or faculty member who dares to cross any of the lines set up by the gender feminist or the homosexual-rights activists, or the local black or Hispanic group, or any of the other sainted 'victims' groups that revolves around, quickly find themselves in judicial trouble." Lind gave this speech many times; a 2000 version sets out his thesis:<sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference">[17]</sup>




The conspiracy theory was also pushed around this time by Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation, who spent the 1990s railing against "political correctness", culminating in the 1999 video tape Political Correctness: The Dirty Little Secret, attacking the Frankfurt School.



Pat Buchanan, at an October 2000 campaign stop in Denver for the Reform Party, accused Native Americans attempting to block a Columbus Day parade of "cultural Marxism" in the Rocky Mountain News.<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference">[18]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference">[19]</sup> In his 2001 book The Death of the West, he described "cultural Marxism" as a "regime to punish dissent and to stigmatize social heresy as the Inquisition punished religious heresy. Its trademark is intolerance."


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 03:43 AM

ashkenazi karl marx, from germany, wasn't operating in a vacuum


Marx was speaking about the destruction of capitalism as a vehicle for humanity

The el-ites recognised that capitalism as a vehicle will likely not run forever so they are looking for other vehicles

they want new ways to structure society and economies that will enable them to remain at the top of society and in control of it; they have latched onto marx's ideas.

Now to what extent marx was part of their network....well that would be an interesting study

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild

Nathan Mayer Rothschild

On 22 October 1806 in London, he married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levy Barent Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx


Blood ties between the rothschilds and Karl Marx

https://wideawakegentile.files.wordp...2/csaladfa.jpg

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 03:46 AM

https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress....of-rothschild/

Mayer Rothschild’s sons were known as the Frankfurt Five. Amschel ran the family’s Frankfurt bank with his father, while Nathan ran London operations. Youngest son Jacob set up shop in Paris, while Salomon ran the Vienna branch and Karl the branch in Naples. Author Frederick Morton estimates that by 1850 the Rothschilds were worth over $10 billion. The old axiom “money begets more money” certainly holds true. Researchers believe that the Rothschild fortune today exceeds $100 trillion.

The Warburgs, Kuhn Loebs, Goldman Sachs, Schiffs and Rothschilds have intermarried into one big happy banking family. The Warburg family – which controls Deutsche Bank and Banque Paribas – tied up with the Rothschilds in 1814 in Hamburg, while Kuhn Loeb powerhouse Jacob Schiff shared quarters with Rothschilds in 1785. Schiff immigrated to America in 1865. He joined forces with Abraham Kuhn and married Solomon Loeb’s daughter. Loeb and Kuhn married each others sisters and the Kuhn Loeb dynasty was consummated. Felix Warburg married Jacob Schiff’s daughter. Two Goldman daughters married two sons of the Sachs family, creating Goldman Sachs. In 1806 Nathan Rothschild married the oldest daughter of Levi Barent Cohen, a leading financier in London. The Cohen family was now part of the club.

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 04:01 AM

In February 1920, Winston Churchill wrote an article for the British Illustrated Daily Herald on ‘Zionism versus Bolshevism’ in which he identified Rosa Luxemburg as one of the Jewish revolutionaries involved in a ‘worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation’. Churchill compared ‘international Jews’ like Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Emma Goldman, Bela Kun with ‘national’ and ‘loyal’ Jews who served the nations in which they lived. He wrote that most of the Bolshevik leaders in Russia were Jews and blamed them for Bolshevism.

The extract below covers ‘international Jews’:

https://rosaluxemburgblog.wordpress....a-luxemburg-2/

” …the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all of them, have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 04:04 AM

http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm

These people are the top masterminds and conspired for the creation of illegal FEDERAL RESERVE BANK in 1913: Theodore Roosevelt, Paul Warburg - Representative Of Rothschild, Woodrow Wilson - U.S. President Signed FED Into Act, Nelson W. Aldrich - Representative Of Rockefeller, Benjamin Strong - Representative Of Rockefeller, Frank A. Vanderlip - Representative Of Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller - Rockefeller Himself, Henry Davison - Representative Of J. P. Morgan, Charles Norton - Representative Of J. P. Morgan.

In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society dynastic banking families in the City of London financed the Communist takeover of Russia. Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907. By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co-ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner. [no doubt using money from Cecil Rhodes' South African gold and diamond legacy - Ed] The Communist system in Russia was a "British experiment" designed ultimately to become the Fabian Socialist model for the British takeover of the World through the UN and EU. The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government.

Rothschild appointed Lord Alfred Milner to implement the plan.

bikerdruid 29-11-2015 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boots (Post 1062632317)
Rational wiki doesn't always get it right, but they got this one down to a tee.



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

hilarious ... rock and roll and homosexuality are all part of the conspiracy.
so .. let's get this straight ...
..... cultural marxism really was part of marx's plan and he invented rock and roll and homosexuality to destroy western civilization.
did i miss something? :dizzy:

bikerdruid 29-11-2015 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062633158)
http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm

These people are the top masterminds and conspired for the creation of illegal FEDERAL RESERVE BANK in 1913: Theodore Roosevelt, Paul Warburg - Representative Of Rothschild, Woodrow Wilson - U.S. President Signed FED Into Act, Nelson W. Aldrich - Representative Of Rockefeller, Benjamin Strong - Representative Of Rockefeller, Frank A. Vanderlip - Representative Of Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller - Rockefeller Himself, Henry Davison - Representative Of J. P. Morgan, Charles Norton - Representative Of J. P. Morgan.

In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society dynastic banking families in the City of London financed the Communist takeover of Russia. Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907. By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co-ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner. [no doubt using money from Cecil Rhodes' South African gold and diamond legacy - Ed] The Communist system in Russia was a "British experiment" designed ultimately to become the Fabian Socialist model for the British takeover of the World through the UN and EU. The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government.

Rothschild appointed Lord Alfred Milner to implement the plan.

rensedot com .. one of the major sources of bullshit on the net.

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 04:11 AM

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...thschild06.htm

The true story of Soros the Golem

Executive Intelligence Review SPECIAL REPORT April 1997


George Soros is not only one of the world's leading megaspeculators; throughout his entire life up to this day, he has served as an "errand boy" for the Anglo-American monetarist establishment, running looting operations against the nations of Eastern Europe, as well as attacks against the sovereignty of nations... in September 1992,

"in an eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation with the Bank of England," Soros destroyed the British pound and the Italian lira and made $12 billion in profit from his speculation, as he later bragged in an interview....

Using leveraged loans, Soros raised $40 billion to outspend the Germans. How he was able to do this, remains a mystery:

First, there was the fact that a speculator like Soros is able to borrow on a margin of 5%, borrowing $1 billion for just $50 million.

Second, Soros had ties to those very British oligarchic circles (epitomized by the Rothschilds) which wanted to undermine the Bundesbank, at the same time that they considered the pound sterling to be overvalued.

Third, Soros had extensive lines of highly leveraged credit with banks like Citibank N.A., which is one of two custodians of Quantum.

Fourth, U.S. intelligence sources charge that Soros has access to a "hot money" crowd in Israel, politically associated with the Eretz Yisroel goals of Gen. Ariel Sharon. These provide some leads as to how Soros was able to beat the Bundesbank and destroy the ERM.


Central European University and the intellectual subversion of Central and Eastern Europe
by Mark Burdman

George Soros -or what might be called the "George Soros spider web of institutions" - is at the center of a vast cultural-political operation of deconstruction in Central and Eastern Europe, and throughout the territory of the former Soviet Union.



The focal point of this endeavor is the Soros-created and Soros-patronized Central European University, based primarily in Budapest, but with important branches in Warsaw and Prague.

The CEU represents an effort to impose what might be called "cultural determinism" throughout the formerly communist areas.



After having lived for decades under communism, the targeted populations are being offered a completely irrational notion of "freedom," the components of which include the following "doctrines":

that any attempt to affirm a scientifically grounded intelligible truth is "totalitarian"

that the sovereign nation-state is evil, and is opposed to the "individual"

that economic liberalism is a good thing

Typical of the mentality involved, is a series of annual conferences on "The Individual vs. the State," co-sponsored by Soros's New York City-based Open Society Institute and the CEU. Equally relevant was the visiting professorship at CEU of arch-deconstructionist theoretician Jacques Derrida.

At least one Soros conference was co-sponsored by the New York Council on Foreign Relations, the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs. During 1996, Soros himself greatly upgraded his work with the CFR.



He headed a CFR task force, on the theme of why the United States should increasingly subordinate itself to the supranational United Nations Organization.



He wrote a piece on the European economic and political situation, for the CFR' s Foreign Affairs Journal. Knowledgeable sources have told EIR that Soros has pumped considerable sums of money into the CFR, although this has not been independently confirmed.

Additionally, the nexus of foundations that turn up, at one point or another ... include the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (most prominently), the German Marshall Fund, the Mott Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Mellon Foundation, and the Washington, D.C.-based Eurasian Foundation.





Soros, Communitarianism, and the Frankfurt School


One should see Soros's deconstructionist push eastward as parallel to. and in symbiosis with, related deconstructionist movements in the Western world.



What needs to be stressed, is the symbiosis or mutual interaction between the Soros cultural-ideological offensive in Eastern and Central Europe, and the evolution of the movement of "Communitarianism" in the United States, Germany, Britain, and other Western countries.



At the July 12-14, 1996 First Communitarian Summit in Geneva. Communitarian founder-guru Amitai Etzioni said:

"I am very close to George Soros, we have been friends for 25 years."

He said that Soros was very supportive of his efforts. and he insisted that Soros's support was not strictly a question of money.

If one looks at the curriculum for the Political Science Department of the CEU in Budapest, one finds a course given by Department head Janos Kic, a leading communist-era figure in Hungary's 'democracy movement" and an important individual at the CEU. The course is described thus:

"Theoretical models: utilitarianism, contractarianism, hermeneutics, substantive conceptions: liberalism, communitarianism, civic republicanism."

The section of the prospectus on Political Science begins with a photograph of Professor Charles Taylor of McGill University in Canada, constantly cited by the "communitarians" in their literature as being one of their leading philosophers. Similarly, a key Soros colleague, Lord Ralf Dahrendorf of St. Antony' s College, Oxford, is a regular contributor to the Communitarian house journal, The Responsive Community...

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 04:15 AM

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fed...thschild/25179

The Warburgs, Kuhn Loebs, Goldman Sachs, Schiffs and Rothschilds have intermarried into one big happy banking family. The Warburg family- which controls Deutsche Bank and BNP- tied up with the Rothschilds in 1814 in Hamburg, while Kuhn Loeb powerhouse Jacob Schiff shared quarters with Rothschilds in 1785. Schiff immigrated to America in 1865. He joined forces with Abraham Kuhn and married Solomon Loeb’s daughter. Loeb and Kuhn married each others sisters and the Kuhn Loeb dynasty was consummated. Felix Warburg married Jacob Schiff’s daughter. Two Goldman daughters married two sons of the Sachs family, creating Goldman Sachs. In 1806 Nathan Rothschild married the oldest daughter of Levi Barent Cohen, a leading financier in London. [22] Thus, Merrill Lynch super-bull Abby Joseph Cohen and Clinton Secretary of Defense William Cohen are likely descended from Rothschilds.

Today the Rothschild’s control a far-flung financial empire, which includes majority stakes in most world central banks. The Edmond de Rothschild clan owns the Banque Privee SA in Lugano, Switzerland and the Rothschild Bank AG of Zurich. The family of Jacob Lord Rothschild owns the powerful Rothschild Italia in Milan. They are founding members of the exclusive $10 trillion Club of the Isles – which controls corporate giants Royal Dutch Shell, Imperial Chemical Industries, Lloyds of London, Unilever, Barclays, Lonrho, Rio Tinto Zinc, BHP Billiton and Anglo American DeBeers. It dominates the world supply of petroleum, gold, diamonds, and many other vital raw materials. [23]

The Club of the Isles provides capital for George Soros’ Quantum Fund NV – which made substantial financial gains in 1998-99 following the collapse of currencies of Thailand, Indonesia and Russia. Soros was a major shareholder at George W. Bush’s Harken Energy. The Club of Isles is led by the Rothschilds and includes Queen Elizabeth II and other wealthy European aristocrats and Nobility.

iamawaveofthesea 29-11-2015 04:19 AM

http://www.counter-currents.com/2013...ik-revolution/

International banking is precisely what it is called–international, or globalist as such forms of capitalism are now called. Not only have these banking forms and other forms of big business had overlapping directorships and investments for generations, but they are often related through intermarriage. While Max Warburg of the Warburg banking house in Germany advised the Kaiser and while the German Government arranged for funding and safe passage of Lenin and his entourage from Switzerland across Germany to Russia;[2] his brother Paul,[3] a partner of Jacob Schiff’s at Wall Street, looked after the family interests in New York. The primary factor that was behind the bankers’ support for the Bolsheviks whether from London,[4] New York, Stockholm,[5] or Berlin, was to open up the underdeveloped resources of Russia to the world market, just as in our own day George Soros, the money speculator, funds the so-called “color revolutions” to bring about “regime change” that facilitates the opening up of resources to global exploitation. Hence there can no longer be any doubt that international capital a plays a major role in fomenting revolutions, because Soros plays the well-known modern-day equivalent of Jacob Schiff.

Recognition of Bolsheviks Pushed by Bankers

This aim of international finance, whether centered in Germany, England or the USA, to open up Russia to capitalist exploitation by supporting the Bolsheviks, was widely commented on at the time by a diversity of well-informed sources, including Allied intelligence agencies, and of particular interest by two very different individuals, Henry Wickham Steed, editor of The London Times, and Samuel Gompers, head of the American Federation of Labor.

On May 1, 1922 The New York Times reported that Gompers, reacting to negotiations at the international economic conference at Genoa, declared that a group of “predatory international financiers” were working for the recognition of the Bolshevik regime for the opening up of resources for exploitation. Despite the rhetoric by New York and London bankers during the war that a Russian revolution would serve the Allied cause, Gompers opined that this was an “Anglo-American-German banking group,” and that they were “international bankers” who did not adhere to any national allegiance. He also noted that prominent Americans who had a history of anti-labor attitudes were advocating recognition of the Bolshevik regime.[6]

What Gompers claimed, was similarly expressed by Henry Wickham Steed of The London Times, based on his observations. In a first-hand account of the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, Steed stated that proceedings were interrupted by the return from Moscow of William C. Bullitt and Lincoln Steffens, “who had been sent to Russia towards the middle of February by Colonel House and Mr. Lansing, for the purpose of studying conditions, political and economic, therein for the benefit of the American Commissioners plenipotentiary to negotiate peace.”[7] Steed also refers to British Prime Minister Lloyd George as being likely to have known of the Mission and its purpose. Steed stated that international finance was behind the move for recognition of the Bolshevik regime and other moves in favor of the Bolsheviks, and specifically identified Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., New York, as one of the principal bankers “eager to secure recognition”:

Potent international financial interests were at work in favor of the immediate recognition of the Bolshevists. Those influences had been largely responsible for the Anglo-American proposal in January to call Bolshevist representatives to Paris at the beginning of the Peace Conference—a proposal which had failed after having been transformed into a suggestion for a Conference with the Bolshevists at Prinkipo. . . . The well-known American Jewish banker, Mr. Jacob Schiff, was known to be anxious to secure recognition for the Bolshevists . . .[8]

In return for diplomatic recognition, Tchitcherin, the Bolshevist Commissary for Foreign Affairs, was offering “extensive commercial and economic concessions.”

Wickham Steed with the support of The Times’ proprietor, Lord Northcliffe, exposed the machinations of international finance to obtain the recognition of the Bolshevik regime, which still had a very uncertain future.


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