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snowleopard 16-07-2018 03:18 PM

9/11 didn't happen on 9/11
 
The event was pre-recorded.

Too many things can go wrong when an event is live especially if you intend on deceiving the entire world with a fake terrorist attack.

I was watching Ocean's 11 the other day and that's when I realized that what we saw on 9/11 had probably been a pre-recorded movie.

In the Ocean's movie, the thieves show the casino owner a tape of them stealing the money but it isn't real. The thieves created a replica of the vault and then taped themselves stealing fake money.

While the owner is being distracted by this tape he calls the police who send in the SWAT team but it's the Ocean's 11 team in disguise. They go in and steal the millions of dollars for real.

Many people believe 9/11 was a gigantic heist and I think some type of magician's trick happened on that day while we were being distracted by a tape of a pre-recorded fake event with fake jumpers, fake planes AND fake images of the towers. While this was going on, billions were being stolen.

Brilliant! :clap:

the nine 16-07-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063031442)
The event was pre-recorded.

Too many things can go wrong when an event is live especially if you intend on deceiving the entire world with a fake terrorist attack.

I was watching Ocean's 11 the other day and that's when I realized that what we saw on 9/11 had probably been a pre-recorded movie.

In the Ocean's movie, the thieves show the casino owner a tape of them stealing the money but it isn't real. The thieves created a replica of the vault and then taped themselves stealing fake money.

While the owner is being distracted by this tape he calls the police who send in the SWAT team but it's the Ocean's 11 team in disguise. They go in and steal the millions of dollars for real.

Many people believe 9/11 was a gigantic heist and I think some type of magician's trick happened on that day while we were being distracted by a tape of a pre-recorded fake event with fake jumpers, fake planes AND fake images of the towers. While this was going on, billions were being stolen.

Brilliant! :clap:

Do you mean the news images broadcast all over the world were pre recorded?
Or do you mean the actual whole event was prerecorded ?

white light 16-07-2018 05:11 PM

How many New Yorkers have come forward to verify this?

thermion 16-07-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063031442)
The event was pre-recorded.

Too many things can go wrong when an event is live especially if you intend on deceiving the entire world with a fake terrorist attack.

I was watching Ocean's 11 the other day and that's when I realized that what we saw on 9/11 had probably been a pre-recorded movie.

In the Ocean's movie, the thieves show the casino owner a tape of them stealing the money but it isn't real. The thieves created a replica of the vault and then taped themselves stealing fake money.

While the owner is being distracted by this tape he calls the police who send in the SWAT team but it's the Ocean's 11 team in disguise. They go in and steal the millions of dollars for real.

Many people believe 9/11 was a gigantic heist and I think some type of magician's trick happened on that day while we were being distracted by a tape of a pre-recorded fake event with fake jumpers, fake planes AND fake images of the towers. While this was going on, billions were being stolen.

Brilliant! :clap:

Interesting theory. So all those thousands of civilians who were swept up in the event one way or another were fake too? Just drugged or hypnotised maybe into believing it happened. And all their photos and videos were obviously fake - so easy to do...

It's a bit like the Apollo 'hoax'; it gets so complicated, it's much easier just to do it for real.

thermion


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tesla 16-07-2018 05:55 PM

OP I want a oz what you've been smoking

snowleopard 16-07-2018 07:23 PM

I know it sounds crazy but it isn't. A magic trick can look very real but it isn't real.

Think about it... what destroyed the towers? Thermite? Nuclear devices? Direct energy weapons? What if something went wrong that day and whatever was being used to destroy the towers didn't work or it stopped working half way through?

What if someone didn't do his or her job or said the wrong thing at the wrong time. Everything was scripted and planned it advance because the whole event was made in advance in front of a green screen.

I don't know exactly how they pulled it off but I believe the event was used as a distraction. All eyes were on the towers and the attack but something else was taking place that day and it wasn't what we were seeing.

thermion 16-07-2018 07:36 PM

@ snowleopard

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Originally Posted by white light (Post 1063031467)
How many New Yorkers have come forward to verify this?

Well, this is a hint snowleopard to come up with evidence and not just wild, unsubstantiated speculation.

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snowleopard 16-07-2018 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thermion (Post 1063031490)
@ snowleopard



Well, this is a hint snowleopard to come up with evidence and not just wild, unsubstantiated speculation.

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New Yorkers were busy staring at their television sets that day. They saw what they were told to see like everybody else. The area around the towers was probably filled with actors, military personel, government agents and anyone else playing a role that day.

An incredible illusion was created. I don't know how yet but it's not possible for the event to have happened on 9/11. Even with the help of the media, many things could have gone wrong. The towers could have fallen the wrong way, the special effects could have been extremely obvious if not done correctly, some of the actors could have rebeled and decided to tell the truth, live, in front of the whole world about this fake event.

Would Hollywood actors ever choose to act in a movie that would be shown live to the audience? Everything is done in advance so that there aren't any big mistakes. There can be some little mistakes in movies but not many because the special effects like buildings being blown up and planes crashing are made in advance. The actors get a chance to flub their lines and start over. Everything is made in a controlled environment.

9/11 changed the world. It was the highest grossing movie of all time. Do you think they would have risked doing it LIVE??

MKUltrad 17-07-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063031488)
Think about it... what destroyed the towers? Thermite? Nuclear devices? Direct energy weapons? What if something went wrong that day and whatever was being used to destroy the towers didn't work or it stopped working half way through?

I wrote a blog about this.

I'm of the opinion the towers were to be demolished right after the plane impacts to make it look as if the towers came down from the shear impact of the plane cutting the buildings top half in two.

It's likely something went wrong with the first impact. If you can imagine the building had fallen straight after, WTC 7 would have dust cover so when the second plane came in, WTC 7 could have been demolished so to make it look like it collapsed because of structural failure of falling debris.

This is why I think the south tower fell first. The relays probably went into a standby failsafe, pushing the timers forward plus one hour while the North Tower was attempted to be reconnected.

The South Tower was hit at an angle. Probably because the issue with the first impact was that a major connection was severed somewhere in the central columns.

To look at this logically, the event was running to the plan B in event of a failure.

If you can find the north tower crash video, the one taken by the firefighters, you can see two big smoke clouds coming from around the 108th-110th floor, much higher than the crash site.

These are detontated explosives.

As AIA: Architects and Engineers have pointed out in anaylsis, the top half of the building collapsed in on itself, beginning in unison with where the building was cut. So the demolition looks started but failed split seconds after.

For the sake of the post, there is no way this was pre-recorded.

MKUltrad 17-07-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063031499)
New Yorkers were busy staring at their television sets that day. They saw what they were told to see like everybody else. The area around the towers was probably filled with actors, military personel, government agents and anyone else playing a role that day.

An incredible illusion was created. I don't know how yet but it's not possible for the event to have happened on 9/11. Even with the help of the media, many things could have gone wrong. The towers could have fallen the wrong way, the special effects could have been extremely obvious if not done correctly, some of the actors could have rebeled and decided to tell the truth, live, in front of the whole world about this fake event.

Would Hollywood actors ever choose to act in a movie that would be shown live to the audience? Everything is done in advance so that there aren't any big mistakes. There can be some little mistakes in movies but not many because the special effects like buildings being blown up and planes crashing are made in advance. The actors get a chance to flub their lines and start over. Everything is made in a controlled environment.

9/11 changed the world. It was the highest grossing movie of all time. Do you think they would have risked doing it LIVE??

There is a possibility someone did rebel if wasn't because the connection was severed by the plane. Judging on the way the second plane went in, I think it was an error.

But this still means a lot of the state sponsored actors on the day resorted to Plan B because something did go wrong. So a lot of the impromptu interviews were probably more real because they had nothing else to go on. I'm sure a lot of them were real people not just actors.

Going from my last post, I think the intention was to get around the "plane proof argument" the architects had built into the buildings by flying the planes into them at 400mph. Within that huge explosion, it would look as if it was hot enough the collapse the top half of the buildings to the ground.

The quicker this happened, the more convincing and less trace evidence for experts to analyse.

Also, if the buildings were to be brought down straight after impact, the bystanders would have cleared the area should the other tower be hit. Less video evidence. So, I think a lot of the video evidence out there is from genuine bystanders who could by all means have been killed.

snowleopard 22-07-2018 12:57 PM

Buy or rent the Blu-ray versions of Forrest Gump, JFK and Titanic, three movies made in the 90s, and watch the "making of" those movies in the special features.

In Forrest Gump and JFK, there were parts of cities created by computer simulation that looked like the real thing.

In Titanic, James Cameron explained how he used computer simulations to create people falling from the boat at the end of the movie. They looked like the people falling from the Twin towers.

This technology to fake reality was available in the 90s and was used in many movies. They could fake an entire city and it would look real. Many 9/11 researchers do believe that certain things were faked like the planes but I'm saying they faked the whole thing including the towers. It gave the perps greater control over what people saw or didn't see just like in a movie.

white light 22-07-2018 02:38 PM

I visited New York in the 80's. Both New York and the Twin Towers existed back then. I haven't visited since to verify if they still exist or not.

If the towers no longer exist, I reiterate my earlier question: What do New Yorkers have to say about it? Did the towers just vanish? Are they still there? Did they come toppling down on 9/11?

Surely New Yorkers would have the best vantage point to opine upon it. I haven't heard many if any stating any other scenario than the latter.

snowleopard 22-07-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by white light (Post 1063032470)
I visited New York in the 80's. Both New York and the Twin Towers existed back then. I haven't visited since to verify if they still exist or not.

If the towers no longer exist, I reiterate my earlier question: What do New Yorkers have to say about it? Did the towers just vanish? Are they still there? Did they come toppling down on 9/11?

Surely New Yorkers would have the best vantage point to opine upon it. I haven't heard many if any stating any other scenario than the latter.

Depends what you mean by "New Yorkers". Who were the people posing as average New Yorkers we saw on tv that day? Who were the people living close to the towers? Remember Sandy Hook and the discovery that most houses in Newton had been bought around the same time? There are cities or parts of cities that are controlled by the military. Laurel Canyon comes to mind. The military agents pretend to be average citizens and witnesses to an event just like during the JFK assassination. They control the official narrative and the alternative one too.

BUT, another type of technology could have been used on 9/11 to fool the public. There's another possible clue in the Ocean's movie franchise, this time in Ocean's 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRj7r-xUHVA

Holograms.

In the Ocean's 12 movie, the thieves want to replace the item they want to steal with a holographic image of it so nobody will notice it's being stolen.

If holographic planes were used then why not holographic towers?

white light 22-07-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063032548)
Depends what you mean by "New Yorkers". Who were the people posing as average New Yorkers we saw on tv that day? Who were the people living close to the towers? Remember Sandy Hook and the discovery that most houses in Newton had been bought around the same time? There are cities or parts of cities that are controlled by the military. Laurel Canyon comes to mind. The military agents pretend to be average citizens and witnesses to an event just like during the JFK assassination. They control the official narrative and the alternative one too.

BUT, another type of technology could have been used on 9/11 to fool the public. There's another possible clue in the Ocean's movie franchise, this time in Ocean's 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRj7r-xUHVA

Holograms.

In the Ocean's 12 movie, the thieves want to replace the item they want to steal with a holographic image of it so nobody will notice it's being stolen.

If holographic planes were used then why not holographic towers?

The population of New York was 8 million at the time. They can't all be agents. The Twin Towers were amongst the tallest buildings in the world. Indeed, iconic to most New Yorkers. You'd think maybe a few of those 8 million might notice something fishy if the towers were holographically replaced. What if you're a hologram?

snowleopard 23-07-2018 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by white light (Post 1063032563)
The population of New York was 8 million at the time. They can't all be agents. The Twin Towers were amongst the tallest buildings in the world. Indeed, iconic to most New Yorkers. You'd think maybe a few of those 8 million might notice something fishy if the towers were holographically replaced. What if you're a hologram?

Most New Yorkers were watching the towers on tv that day, they were not looking directly at the towers. The area around the towers was probably sealed off and controlled by the military/government.

People who were far away and looking directly at the towers were seeing lots of white smoke, to hide what was actually happening.

As I mentioned before, I don't know exactly how they did it but I know it could not have been done live.

The planes were either CGI or holograms. The holes the planes left in the buildings were an impossibility and were also fake. How do you do all of this live? You can't.

the nine 23-07-2018 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063032598)
Most New Yorkers were watching the towers on tv that day, they were not looking directly at the towers. The area around the towers was probably sealed off and controlled by the military/government.

People who were far away and looking directly at the towers were seeing lots of white smoke, to hide what was actually happening.

As I mentioned before, I don't know exactly how they did it but I know it could not have been done live.

The planes were either CGI or holograms. The holes the planes left in the buildings were an impossibility and were also fake. How do you do all of this live? You can't.

Yes, that what I would have done too, had I been home on 9/11 and had a view of the twin towers, like thousands of windows can see them in and around new york..I would have only watched it on tv..
Never once would I turn my head to look out of the window at the actual towers still standing, its human nature.

can I just ask was the rubble also a hologram?
With holographic trucks taking away the holographic rubble?

merlincove 23-07-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063031499)
New Yorkers were busy staring at their television sets that day.

So, 8 million people sat home watching their TV's at 9 am. No one was going to work, no one was going to the polls that morning to vote, no one was out on the streets of one of the most busiest cities in the world.

An estimated 50,000 people worked in the towers, many thousands more worked in the buildings, the stores, the cafe's, the hotels around WTC, there were thousands of people on the streets of NYC when the attacks happened. there were probably thousands of taxis and busses taking those thousands of people to where they needed to be.

Were they all Hollywood actors?

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Originally Posted by snowleopard (Post 1063032548)
Depends what you mean by "New Yorkers". Who were the people posing as average New Yorkers we saw on tv that day?

How about most of them were normal people, going about their normal everyday lives, doing normal and everyday things?

NYC is a hub of activity, not just for those who live and work there, but also for tourists - there were thousands of tourists to add to the population of those who travel into NYC to work, those who live and work there.

911 was a very carefully orchestrated attack that left thousands of people dead, but those responsible for the attack have yet to be bought to justice.

Bush, Chenney, Larry Silverstein to name but three - and of course their Mossad and Saudi Arabian cohorts.

While America's might busied itself blaming Bin Laden and gearing toward attacking Afghanistan, Bin Laden was in FBI custody - while the real perpetrators sat back, another pillar that supports and funds Zion set in place.

If anyone thinks that those who steer American politics, American finance, International monetary funding and European financial concerns via the IMF and the Federal Reserve, those who have >90% of Congress in their back pockets and finance every presidential candidate to their will - if anyone thinks that those same people do not have the vast wealth of Arab Oil nations under their control, do not have a finger in the most lucrative financial operation on the planet - then they are missing a huge part of the picture.

Oil is not the reason, because those who control the oil, are in bed with those who control finance, national debt and the American administration.

When the magician tears away a curtain to reveal an empty cabinet, he is in effect controlling not only the illusion, but the perception of the illusion, he is controlling what the audience sees and perceives, through careful planning and application of misdirection. And so, his assistant has been skilfully moved out of sight, only to appear somewhere totally unexpected....

And, in the same way, the perpetrators have managed to manipulate the world by misdirecting their attention with decades of planning and manipulation....

America trained Al queda. They armed them. Because they needed a patsy.

The 'caves of Afghanistan' provided a very nice illusion of a hiding Bin Laden - who had died of illness long before the first American bombs fell on his 'hiding place.'

And, while the world looked on at the might of American muscle being applied to Afghanistan, those behind the illusion rejoiced that millions of $ were being attributed toward a 'war on terror,' contracts were being forced through, entire regions were being re-carved and the world stage reshaped.

Saudi, Israel and America all benefited.

Follow the money - and know that when you pool Saudi's and Israel's finances toward creating a New World Order - whose very rules are dictated to by the financiers, then people are just collateral damage.

And, why risk paying thousands of actors, when you have the funding, the weapons, the military and the power to actually enact a play involving real people, real towers and real terror on the streets of NYC?

thermion 23-07-2018 11:13 AM

What a very peculiar thread for snowleopard to start. What's he up to do you think?

MKUltrad 23-07-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by white light (Post 1063032470)
I visited New York in the 80's. Both New York and the Twin Towers existed back then. I haven't visited since to verify if they still exist or not.

If the towers no longer exist, I reiterate my earlier question: What do New Yorkers have to say about it? Did the towers just vanish? Are they still there? Did they come toppling down on 9/11?

Surely New Yorkers would have the best vantage point to opine upon it. I haven't heard many if any stating any other scenario than the latter.

That would mean people I know (UK Residents) were in on it too, people who have been to Ground Zero and to the memorial, taken pictures of it. Everything.

Everyone who has been there since would have to have been in on it. This is the daftest theory since Flat Earth. No offence.

merlincove 23-07-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MKUltrad (Post 1063032644)
That would mean people I know (UK Residents) were in on it too, people who have been to Ground Zero and to the memorial, taken pictures of it. Everything.

Everyone who has been there since would have to have been in on it. This is the daftest theory since Flat Earth. No offence.

It's not just a stupid theory, it is a theory without any logical thought put into it.

If it were filmed prior to 911, and broadcast on sept 11th for the 'world' to see, these American's living in NYC who (apparently) "were watching it on TV," could easily have taken a camera and filmed the TV footage showing the towers covered in smoke, and then filmed the real towers out of their window(s).

And then the entire thing would have been shown to be fake.

The story holds about as much water as a bucket with no bottom in.

The faker crowd really do need to do their research with some due diligence.


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