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carlore 26-06-2016 10:31 AM

This is how i think we move towards the higher states of consciousness

ego causes us more problems than we can accept, and we also don't see everything as clearly as we should, so some effort must be made to increase perception


i couldn't find any of these books on the forum and i find them the best iv read on mindfulness/awareness

food weighs us down to earth, so reducing what you eat will help



religious people fast and stop eating for a while, because doing so brings them closer to God, some also believe the body is like a temple, so it makes sense to keep this clean, by fasting and eating better
cleaner body = happier spirit

we also need to reduce our contact with negative forces so we are not dissuade from our potential


carlore 26-06-2016 10:39 AM


oz93666 26-06-2016 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by carlore (Post 1062750251)
.......ego causes us more problems than we can accept..... ......vipassana........breatharian..... fasting


....ego is very fine ,our sense of identity, not to be despised....

Vipassana ... attended one of their 10 day retreats a long time ago.... very grueling.... sitting 8 hours a day , no talking , short exercise period. Life doesn't have to be that hard! But the 'meditation' technique is one of the best. Their site you link to is also pretty good.

Breatharianism ...I've explored this , more a myth than a practical reality, very flawed in theory, denying ones physicality.

Fasting ... Excellent for health and mental clarity, I've just finished a 48hr fast ....short fast , fairly often are regarded as better than long (over 5 days) fasts.

My recommendation is YOGA .. the type you find everywhere in evening classes , postures .... this naturally encourages inward focus without the extreme, unnatural effort needed in techniques like vipassana....postures keep the body fit , and are the only preparation for divine union (tantric sex).

carlore 26-06-2016 11:09 AM

as beings who have almost infinite free will, i would say that ego is a bit of a problem for us


carlore 26-06-2016 11:31 AM

the ego is also lot stronger than negative forces are at distracting us from our potential

see the movie Revolver to understand where im coming from

whether its the only enemy or not is irrelevant because we are still our own worst enemy


paddy_blake 26-06-2016 12:05 PM

Ego is the false self and I would also say so is no ego.

oz93666 26-06-2016 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by carlore (Post 1062750304)
we are still our own worst enemy

There's something very wrong with this world view .... that a part of ourselves is our worst enemy!

Do you think other life forms are in this terrible predicament ? Is a dog or a rabbit tormented and held back by parts of it's own self ....of course not ...

You've been miss directed by a dogma , or a guru ..... Insecure gurus are always deriding their followers for having an ego (asking difficult questions, or showing independence)...

There's also something wrong with the title of this thread 'Liberation'. ...Someone who is not successful in the format of experience they find themselves in , is always seeking liberation, it's the dream of the looser.

We're as liberated as we'll ever be.

carlore 26-06-2016 12:20 PM

i dont think youd be saying the same things if you still lived in the UK

Thailand has a certain space and light, that doesn't exist here..

carlore 26-06-2016 12:32 PM

and if i lived in paradise, i wouldn't be posting 300 times a day here

carlore 26-06-2016 01:00 PM


i like what he says here about the magicians trick


a doctor with understanding of spirit , very rare

carlore 26-06-2016 01:12 PM

liquid diets are also really good, look at the energy these people have, and how much more healthier they are than people that eat alot



ringy 26-06-2016 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by carlore (Post 1062750611)
do you think there is a correlation between food intake and consciousness?


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derekbuttery 26-06-2016 10:21 PM

but there's an advert at the very top of my page here, right now : canadian energy, batteries!!

carlore 17-08-2016 06:37 AM


tommorgan 19-08-2016 12:21 AM

I agree with you. My experience is mindfulness including mindful eating and detox is the fastest way to generate consciousness. I have had great success with this. My favourite writer on mindfulness is Eckhart Tolle.

silent revolution 19-08-2016 12:35 AM

I'd say ego is the actor, and spirit is the observer. Ego is an imaginary idea we hold of ourselves. Spirit just see's things as they are. Ego easily drowns out spirit, although ego along with our bodies dies while spirit is eternal. Ego is us kidding ourselves, although ego can be a very useful tool. If you're in a situation that needs courage from you, then by donning a particular ego you can summon the courage.

Ego probably first occurred as a tool, then ended up becoming our warped sense of identity as we got more and more lost through time. It should be put back in it's rightful place as an almost magical tool, and we all should stop kidding ourselves with it.

Peace, love, harmony and wisdom friends:)

tommorgan 19-08-2016 01:23 AM

Mindfulness is not really David Icke's go is it? This is an important thread but it does not surprise me that it gets a less than overwhelming reception in this community.

white light 19-08-2016 02:47 AM

My ego likes my ego. They get on quite well.

Left to it's own rumination ego is fine. Put it through a prism and then you may get problems.

carlore 20-08-2016 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by tommorgan (Post 1062781585)
Mindfulness is not really David Icke's go is it? This is an important thread but it does not surprise me that it gets a less than overwhelming reception in this community.

introspection is really important. introspection develops intuition, that a lot of people need. mindfulness is good for overcoming ego problem.

also consider that the centre of your consciousness, is sort of like an energy generator.

and like said in the matrix movie, we are like batteries

wherever you focus, energy/life grows. so looking inward sometimes helps give back energy you may have wasted being distracted by the world. this would also explain why they work so hard to control the masses, with the way they think, and with what they do. (like "they live" movie) its to direct the flux of energy a certain way

balance is key.

when i first got into mindfulness by that book. it was ego that suggests that the only way to live is to give yourself 100% to the practise. and the 3 characteristics of existence are worse than they sound. but the more i sorted myself out these 3 characteristics disappear,

tommorgan 22-08-2016 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by white light (Post 1062781596)
Left to it's own rumination ego is fine. Put it through a prism and then you may get problems.

Please explain.

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