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illuminumnuts 16-01-2019 06:01 PM

Brexit Deal Voted Down.
 
This deal, orchestrated by the PTB and fed to us via their vile stooge, Terrorist May, was obviously designed to fail in parliament from the off. All part of the 'Brexit Con'. Terrorist May will naturally survive Corbyn's no-confidence motion, as the majority of our M.P.'s, one way or the other, are sadly controlled by the PTB. It heartens me that there does still seem to be many honest M.P.'s in office though.

It is absolutely critical for the PTB that they control the prime minister right now, so there will be not be another general election before Brexit is quashed. After the referendum result, the PTB quickly realised that 2020 would be too soon for another general election, for their liking, which is why they decided to hold one in June 2017. They will deal with 2022, if they have to, when the time comes.

The 'Constitutional Crisis' theme, first planned by the PTB early last autumn, will now run right alongside 'Project Fear' and 'Project Chaos' for the foreseeable future. The first goal of the PTB will be to cross the red line of 29th March 2019, without meaningfully leaving the E.U. in any way at all. If they pull that off, then their game will be to just sit tight, bullshit like hell and do nothing. It they feel forced to, then they will orchestrate a big, false flag terrorist attack or we will be heavily HAARPED.

Meanwhile, Terrorist May will try to continue with the implementation of the police state apparatus, while the treacherous mass media just lap it all up. The people have already been cautioned against protesting to their M.P.'s, with any degree of passion, via, among other things, the well orchestrated 'Anna Soubry is a Nazi chant' psyop. Treachery most heady is currently occurring right across the land and I really hope that good will somehow still win the day in the end. :)

P.S. I am still trying to decide whether Michael 'I am Mossad' Gove, being cast as a Brexiteer, was a bigger joke than the notion of Donald 'Biff' Trump somehow being authorised to write his own stupid tweets. :martini:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46885828 (Click on link for rest of bullshit.)

'Brexit: Theresa May's deal is voted down in historic Commons defeat.

Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal has been rejected by 230 votes - the largest defeat for a sitting government in history. MPs voted by 432 votes to 202 to reject the deal, which sets out the terms of Britain's exit from the EU on 29 March. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has now tabled a vote of no confidence in the government, which could trigger a general election. The confidence vote is expected to be held at about 1900 GMT on Wednesday.

The defeat is a huge blow for Mrs May, who has spent more than two years hammering out a deal with the EU. The plan was aimed at bringing about an orderly departure from the EU on 29 March, and setting up a 21-month transition period to negotiate a free trade deal. The vote was originally due to take place in December, but Mrs May delayed it to try and win the support of more MPs.'

bluebirdgr 16-01-2019 06:38 PM

In ‘Toward European Unity’ Orwell wrote: “There is always the danger that the United States will break up any European coalition by drawing Britain out of it.” The sequence of EU fragmentation may not exactly match Orwell’s prediction (though history may see it otherwise and link Brexit more causally to the rise of Trump), but the sudden cloying alliance between the Brexiting Tories and Trump’s xenophobic nationalism suggests exactly the alignment of forces (in which a declining Britain willingly turns away from Europe and kowtows to a dominant United States) which Orwell foresaw. 


Even more acutely, Orwell’s 1947 essay identifies that European unity will be threatened by a sense of British decline. The economic and political fading of Britain’s empire, he suggests, will coalesce with the trick played continually on the British working classes which convinces them that it is best to be inside an imperialist power and live at an elevated standard of living via de facto exploitation of the poor of the colonies.


In George Orwell’s dystopian novel ‘1984’, the world is ruled by three superstates. Unfortunately, there’s not much ‘super’ to these states except their size.

In George Orwell’s dystopian novel ‘1984’, the world is ruled by three superstates:

• Oceania covers the entire continents of America and Oceania and the British Isles, the main location for the novel, in which they are referred to as ‘Airstrip One’.
• Eurasia covers Europe and (more or less) the entire Soviet Union.
• Eastasia covers Japan, Korea, China and northern India.

Unfortunately, there’s not much ‘super’ to these states except their size. All three are totalitarian dictatorships. Oceania’s ideology is Ingsoc (English Socialism), Eurasia’s Neo-Bolshevism and Eastasia’s is the Obliteration of the Self (one imagines some kind of buddhist-inspired fascism. If one can). These ideologies are very similar, but the people are not informed of this.

The three states are in a perpetual state of warfare – sometimes two against one, sometimes all three against each other. These wars are fought in the disputed territories, running from North Africa over the Middle East and southern India to Southeast Asia.

And yet…

And yet the war might just not even be real at all. It’s clear that the Oceanic media are one-sided and fabricate ‘facts’. A dissident book central to ‘1984’ suggests the two other powers may actually be a fabrication of the government of Oceania, which would make it the world government. Or, on the other side of the scale of thinkable alternatives: Airstrip One is not an outpost of a greater empire, but the sole territory under the command of Ingsoc, which fabricates eternal global war to keep its people permanently mobilised, scrutinised and on rations.

illuminumnuts 16-01-2019 08:57 PM

Lies, lies and yet more lies...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebirdgr (Post 1063055954)
In ‘Toward European Unity’ Orwell wrote: “There is always the danger that the United States will break up any European coalition by drawing Britain out of it.” The sequence of EU fragmentation may not exactly match Orwell’s prediction (though history may see it otherwise and link Brexit more causally to the rise of Trump), but the sudden cloying alliance between the Brexiting Tories and Trump’s xenophobic nationalism suggests exactly the alignment of forces (in which a declining Britain willingly turns away from Europe and kowtows to a dominant United States) which Orwell foresaw. 

Donald Trump is the most blatant NWO goon going. Maybe Orwell didn't foresee that the same mafia would ultimately gain control of both the U.S. and E.U.. ;)

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Originally Posted by bluebirdgr (Post 1063055954)
And yet the war might just not even be real at all. It’s clear that the Oceanic media are one-sided and fabricate ‘facts’.

Everyone needs to realise just how tainted, corrupt and treacherous our mass media really are, especially the BBC. Nowadays, they are literally PTB mouthpieces and nothing more. :( I saw Tom 'Royal We' Bradby pop up on my TV, earlier on this evening, urging everyone to join him at 10pm as 'we grapple with what it all means'. I think he meant to say to join him as 'we try to explain away treachery most heady'. Terrorist May, who has no doubt been rehearsing her speech for weeks, is now on TV professionally lying through her teeth. She genuinely thinks she is some sort of great stateswoman as well. Ha ha ha. :lol:

billybleach 17-01-2019 12:21 AM

Its just smoke and mirrors.

The EU Referendum was purely advisory and the "gubberment" made a promise to full-fill the outcome....yerrrr right

Even lord kerr of kinlochard, author of Article 50, said this in the house of Lords.

Every referendum is advisory.

lewi 17-01-2019 12:21 AM

Real reason UK MP's will fight to stay in the EU
 
The UK MP's fear losing out on all that cash and luxurious hotel rooms and holidays the EU allows MP's to have for free. They have never had it so good and you wonder why they don't want to leave the EU !? The people must rise up and see threw the lies of the fear mongers who stand to lose the most of a no deal exit from the EU. 17 million people voted to leave 14 million of those are living in absolute poverty while the rest who voted was the working poor who no doubt follow the news and know the true agenda of these foul mps which is lining there pockets full of tax payer money before the gig is up. All you will hear from these MP's now is the same line over and over and that is the Uncertainty is unbearable. :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...u-court-ruling
Quote:

Members of the European parliament are paid €8,611.31 (£7,705) a month in gross salary, plus pension. On leaving the parliament they receive a golden parachute, a transition allowance worth up to €206,664, depending on length of service. The court case was centred on expenses, including the €4,416 monthly “general expenditure allowance” awarded to MEPs to fund their constituency offices, which costs the public purse €40m a year. MEPs are also refunded first-class travel expenses and get a €313 daily allowance for hotel and living costs when working in Brussels and Strasbourg. An investigation by the group found 249 “ghost offices”, where MEPs had no office or refused to divulge the address
Free 2 million overseas trips

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411

Quote:

Members of Parliament have benefitted from more than £2m worth of free overseas trips in the last two years. More than half were paid for by foreign governments and Saudi Arabia spent more than any other, BBC analysis of Parliament's expenses register reveals. A total of 810 visits were recorded by 340 MPs in the years either side of the 2017 general election.
If the UK remains in the EU, they may as well demolish Parliament and have the EU HQ in Brussels rule over the people of the UK.

decim 17-01-2019 12:43 AM

How eu accumulates traitors.

Labour? of course boyo.

When an Austrian Member of Parliament filmed EU MPs rolling up to the Parliament building in limos,

engines running, nipping in and signing the attendance register and then leaving within minutes

having claimed £175 for a day’s expenses, he reported it to OLAF

which is the EU’s agency for fighting fraud and corruption…
Trouble is, OLAF is headed by Neil Kinnock – and one of the EU MPs filmed claiming fraudulent

expenses was Glenys Kinnock – instead of being busted behind bars, they were given

Life Peerages and sit on a family fortune of – allegedly – £10 MILLION – a
nd most of that is tax payers’ money!

The morning after, Kinnock was broadcast on TV with Welsh pensioners,

he could hardly hold back his tears, as it was obvious that the 1992 British general election
– like so many others – had been RIGGED. Kinnock might have become somewhat of a
loose canon at that point – but luckily he managed to become a multi-millionaire –

courtesy of the EU and British tax payers…

http://christophereverard.co.uk/wp-c...1362fa8c-1.jpg


The KINNOCKS SECRET FORTUNE: Campaigners from Open Europe, which argues for greater transparency,

calculated the Kinnock’s multi-million-pound earnings from EU allowances, wages and pension entitlements
over a 15-year period.

Their salaries and perks included: A total of £775,000 in wages for Mrs Kinnock and £1.85m for her husband,

adding up to £2,625,000; Allowances for Mrs Kinnock’s staff and office costs of £2.9m;

A £64,564 “entertainment allowance” for Lord Kinnock;
A total of five publicly-funded pensions, worth £4.4m, allowing them to retire on £183,000 a year;

A housing allowance that allowed them both to claim accommodation costs even though,
as a married couple, they lived in the same house in the Belgian capital between 1995 and 2004.


http://christophereverard.co.uk/kinn...bank-accounts/

lewi 17-01-2019 12:59 AM

TV licence shame
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ee-tv-13752146

Wealthy Tories claim free TV licences while Britain's struggling pensioners face having theirs taken away by Tory policies.

lewi 17-01-2019 01:53 AM

The Ultimate Solution
 
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/sym...e-to-obey-them
Quote:

Just when you thought that Brexit couldn’t get any more chaotic, up popped Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson to assure that he has things under control. He told the Commons that he has 3,500 troops on stand-by to deal with “contingencies” in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Williamson’s comments were welcomed by the sort of people who think that the ultimate solution to any problem is to send in people with guns. it shows the government’s contempt for the British public that they will announce something so major while giving no details. Downing Street later responded to enquiries with a vague statement about the MoD’s “long-standing and important function in relation to sensible planning for contingencies”. The Peace Pledge Union has already called on the Defence Secretary to clarify his statement. Could these 3,500 troops be used for social control in the event of civil unrest?

For some people, armed forces are the ultimate solution.

itsnotallrightjack 17-01-2019 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lewi (Post 1063055986)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ee-tv-13752146

Wealthy Tories claim free TV licences while Britain's struggling pensioners face having theirs taken away by Tory policies.

Disgraceful greedy gits!

decim 17-01-2019 02:05 AM

They'll need the army when the monies paid to our diversity enrichers is stopped.
London will be like downtown Mogadishu on a bad day, along with other culturally enriched regions and cities..



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Originally Posted by lewi (Post 1063055998)


elpressiedente 17-01-2019 08:41 AM

Hasn't anyone figured out that voting is a con and a scam and has nothing to do with anything?

This 'voting' for or against its a 3 shell trick. Where did the vote go?

Democracy as all about contesting the Vote.... I want to know which country, anywhere in the world where at their most recent Voting Scam where the results are contested or declared invalid or a recount is demanded or even another more transparent vote.

Clearly Voting isnt working. Its now the Standard for Divide and Rule... Argue about the vote and it guarantees nothing gets done apart more of the same ole same ole.

End result.... their snouts in the trough only move deeper and the peasants revolt.

This is good for managing the herd of slaves.

so shut up and eat your popcorn.

iamawaveofthesea 17-01-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elpressiedente (Post 1063056012)
This 'voting' for or against its a 3 shell trick. Where did the vote go? .

if brexit voters had retired from the field of battle and not voted all that would have happened is that the leave vote would have won by a landslide

winning the brexit vote was a victory in itself because now we have put the political class in an impossible position

They though they could fear monger us into a remain vote but people showed more spirit than they are given credit for. We stayed strong and achieved something we can be proud of.

Now we get to watch the elites undermine the democratic will of the people and we need for that to happen so that people can see what a con the system is. Only then will people begin to consider alternatives outside of the ballot box

Over 17 million people are about to learn that democracy in this country is a farce and that is a valuable lesson

jake_ball 17-01-2019 03:12 PM

"Brexit Deal" = NOT leaving the EU.

"No Deal Brexit" = Completely Leaving the EU (or at least I THINK it means that).

I want the latter.

Teresa May should be ousted and a REAL pro-Brexit person should be installed as Prime Minister.

Corbyn wants a General Election where he expoects to get elected into power so that there can be a second Brexit Referendum, where this time the Remainers win.

The French people, Germans, Dutch, Spain, Greece (and lots more) want out of the EU, but the governments of all those countries wont allow it.

zArk[ie] 17-01-2019 03:49 PM

its hilarious

jaybigjay 17-01-2019 04:30 PM

we're fucked from the right and fucked from the left. Its bloody obvious they both work for the same EU masters. May the **** with her so called EU deal bullshit and Corbin the twat with his no deal has to be off the table bollocks.

Bring on a British spring :) its the only way.

madbomber 17-01-2019 06:26 PM

This is now beyond farcical. May was always going to win a vote of no confidence, so why did Corbyn even bother to table it? Had he done nothing, May would have been done for but she has survived and will now seek to buy a bit more time. The EU will not offer any concessions beyond those already given so what can she do?

I wouldn't mind betting on a second referendum. Farage thinks this is on the cards. If so, maybe the contempt people feel for the political establishment will be overwhelming and the leave vote will win by a massive majority. Those confined to within the M25 won't be happy if that happens.

lewi 17-01-2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by madbomber (Post 1063056086)
This is now beyond farcical. May was always going to win a vote of no confidence, so why did Corbyn even bother to table it? Had he done nothing, May would have been done for but she has survived and will now seek to buy a bit more time. The EU will not offer any concessions beyond those already given so what can she do?

I wouldn't mind betting on a second referendum. Farage thinks this is on the cards. If so, maybe the contempt people feel for the political establishment will be overwhelming and the leave vote will win by a massive majority. Those confined to within the M25 won't be happy if that happens.

Second referendum !? what if nobody turned out to vote because they have already had the vote and had it ignored the first time round, so they ignore the call for the second round of voting and then what of a third round of voting right i mean, best of three!? if the people do turn out and vote because nothing says democracy than a best of three right ? But as for being members the UK are still in the EU and haven't left yet and the people in the country are poverty stricken while members of this union, so leaving is looking more and more convincing to those who are suffering under its influence.

elpressiedente 17-01-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1063056017)
Now we get to watch the elites undermine the democratic will of the people and we need for that to happen so that people can see what a con the system is. Only then will people begin to consider alternatives outside of the ballot box



When justice fails to be delivered from the Ballot box and the jury box, its found in the Cartridge Box....

Careful what you wish for. Or perhaps prepare for what you wish for... its a cummin.

lewi 18-01-2019 09:56 AM

Cancel Brexit !? Judge says no!
 
The UK government has been ordered to pay £105,000 in legal fees after losing its case over whether the country can unilaterally cancel Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-46637382

*facepalm*

iamawaveofthesea 18-01-2019 11:00 AM

good summary of the situation and the way out of it:

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