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brianthebrain 27-03-2011 03:45 AM

this is the end of tpuc
 
after much speculation, the truth about the recent event at tpuc have come to life,,

trading standards have popped round to his( JH) house after complaints about him selling dodgy advice on DVDs,,,, pmsl,,,, wish id have thought of that,, congrats who ever did that,, good man

AND,,,an injunction was threatened against him for breaching a STATUTE re giving info out about the family court,,, needless to say john just lauthed at their order, returned it no contract and invoked the MC,, WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!! HE DIDN'T, HE JUST DID WHAT THE COURT TOLD HIM, oh well that pisses on that bag of chips then, he only advises others to ignore the courts, when it comes to saving his sorry arse, he just doffs he cap,, yes sir, right away sir

further more after trading standards visit,, he is no longer selling or even giving away DVDs for fear of being prosecuted,,,, no don't,, i cant stop lauthing and is putting a,,,, for entertainment only purposes only disclaimer,,, on tpuc


he also appears to have run out of gullible folk to leach off whilst he writes his long awaited book,, and has got himself a job, paye and all,,, careful john youl be paying your council tax next,, on the subject of which,, the first chapter is now out,, all 800 words of it, it concerns johns previous incarnation as an Egyptian prince and,,, well as you can guess. the rest is bollux

the nine 27-03-2011 08:56 AM

De ja vue..
You do understand the rules regarding duplicate threads?

But you seem to have made a copy of your own??

You must be very pleased with your self!

hadabusa 27-03-2011 09:25 AM

what is "trading standards"?

a govt economy overview council?

yozhik 27-03-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hadabusa (Post 1059787503)
what is "trading standards"?

a govt economy overview council?

It's a bureaucratic interpretation of the expression; "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" ... dressed up in some pretty red tape and sprinkled with statute fairy dust.

hadabusa 27-03-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yozhik (Post 1059787557)
It's a bureaucratic interpretation of the expression; "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" ... dressed up in some pretty red tape and sprinkled with statute fairy dust.

ah, "freemarket enforcers"

rumpelstilzchen 27-03-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hadabusa (Post 1059787559)
ah, "freemarket enforcers"

Not really.
It's purpose is to enforce consumer related legislation.
You know, to make sure that those nasty corporations don't have us over with their misleading advertising or selling us goods not fit for purpose such as offering for sale DVDs that don't do what it says on the tin.

dubmeup 27-03-2011 11:40 AM

Whilst i'd never suggest the above is made up, it's interesting that the tpuc website is the same as yesterday, and the day before, and the day......

Can't see any 'entertainment purposes only' warnings etc...

Nice try though :)

rumpelstilzchen 27-03-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dubmeup (Post 1059787757)
Whilst i'd never suggest the above is made up, it's interesting that the tpuc website is the same as yesterday, and the day before, and the day......

Can't see any 'entertainment purposes only' warnings etc...
Nice try though :)

Quote:

A legal disclaimer is to be added to the forum soon which should appease the hosts and keep the site and forum up
http://www.tpuc.org/content/prophecy-sion-chapter-one

So, TS told Harris he must register as a business and his remedy was to stop selling merchandise.
That's a big fail for JH.

brianthebrain 27-03-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen (Post 1059788776)
http://www.tpuc.org/content/prophecy-sion-chapter-one

So, TS told Harris he must register as a business and his remedy was to stop selling merchandise.
That's a big fail for JH.

im not sure he is being genuine, ts are not in a position to tell anyone to register as a business, register with who ? its the tax man you need to tell:D not ts, wonder if anyone has considered ringing HMRC, 5 years back tax would be funny

they are, however, in a position to tell you that you ARE operating as a business and as such that the comsumer protection statutes applies to YOU and you cant go making wild claim in order to sell goods and as the goods are full of wild claims it could be a problem for him

im disapointed he didnt just refere them to his letter to the queen

rumpelstilzchen 27-03-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brianthebrain (Post 1059788832)
they are in a position to tell you that you ARE operating as a business and as such that the comsumer protection statutes applies to YOU and you cant go making wild claim in order to sell goods and as the goods are full of wild claims it could be a problem for him

That's how I see it.
He says that TS are totally happy with what he is doing, apart from the bits that they are not happy with.:D
What a plonker.

rumpelstilzchen 27-03-2011 09:37 PM

JH has just responded to JB's comment on the front page of tpuc.
JH's response was to say that he (JH) will never post on the forum again.
JB did have a point:

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John/sion now I am confused, why didn't you tell trading standards that you had withdrawn your consent to be governed and as such statutory legislation was not law and you are free to ignore it?????? Havent you been saying this for two years?
http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31057

brianthebrain 27-03-2011 10:44 PM

as much as i hate to admit it im starting to feel sorry for him, its like some greek tragedy, a man held up as a ''god'' is found to be fallable and they turn on him , knives flashing they look to wound and hurt, such is the price of them feeling betrayed

its like watching a car crash, he now wont even post on the forum he pays for, for fear of attack, credability totaly blown, what next i ask,, hemlock

truepositive 27-03-2011 10:52 PM

I dont follow this stuff at all, but this is getting boring now brian.

brianthebrain 27-03-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by truepositive (Post 1059789244)
I dont follow this stuff at all, but this is getting boring now brian.

feel free not to read it

hadabusa 28-03-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen (Post 1059787723)
Not really.
It's purpose is to enforce consumer related legislation.
You know, to make sure that those nasty corporations don't have us over with their misleading advertising or selling us goods not fit for purpose such as offering for sale DVDs that don't do what it says on the tin.

ah.ok.

but i find this quite fascist, its a breach of freedom of expression.

if he believes the system works like he thinks, then he should be free to say so.

and he shouldnt be restricted from selling bs as legit, even if its all crap.

he should label it "revolutionary manifesto"then, wonder if thats legal.

there is a court ruling allowing tv stations to lie(no suprise), yet JH cant sell "lies"?

religion sells fairytales about godfigure in the sky, how comes they get away with it?

if youre no fmotl supporter(neither am i), then atleast honour the "everyone is same before the law".

if you dont, youre either a fascist or an anarchist.

micklemus 28-03-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by brianthebrain (Post 1059789226)
as much as i hate to admit it im starting to feel sorry for him, its like some greek tragedy, a man held up as a ''god'' is found to be fallable and they turn on him , knives flashing they look to wound and hurt, such is the price of them feeling betrayed

its like watching a car crash, he now wont even post on the forum he pays for, for fear of attack, credability totaly blown, what next i ask,, hemlock

Yep. They need new leaders now. Still, there are two contenders who could capitalise on their disappointment with new false hope, one of whom posts here regularly and the other has been talked about a lot.

rumpelstilzchen 28-03-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by brianthebrain (Post 1059789226)
as much as i hate to admit it im starting to feel sorry for him,

Well, when you get that overwhelming feeling of pity for Harris, just remind yourself that this is the man who has given instructions to people on how to land up in jail.

rumpelstilzchen 28-03-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hadabusa (Post 1059789532)
ah.ok.

but i find this quite fascist, its a breach of freedom of expression.

if he believes the system works like he thinks, then he should be free to say so.

and he shouldnt be restricted from selling bs as legit, even if its all crap.

he should label it "revolutionary manifesto"then, wonder if thats legal.

there is a court ruling allowing tv stations to lie(no suprise), yet JH cant sell "lies"?

religion sells fairytales about godfigure in the sky, how comes they get away with it?

if youre no fmotl supporter(neither am i), then atleast honour the "everyone is same before the law".

if you dont, youre either a fascist or an anarchist.

Look at it this way.
If a secondhand car dealer were to say to you "These particular cars tend to be free of faults" would it be the same as saying "This particular car is free of faults"?

dubmeup 28-03-2011 09:57 AM

Cheers for the link, i've just read it and the associated topic.
Nice one JH, you've confirmed all the suspicions about your motives regarding tpuc, undermined every 'good' thing you've done and made yourself look like a petulant, hypocritical, nepotistic little fuhrer.
All in a days 'work' eh.

merlincove 28-03-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianthebrain (Post 1059789226)
as much as i hate to admit it im starting to feel sorry for him, its like some greek tragedy, a man held up as a ''god'' is found to be fallable and they turn on him , knives flashing they look to wound and hurt, such is the price of them feeling betrayed

its like watching a car crash, he now wont even post on the forum he pays for, for fear of attack, credability totaly blown, what next i ask,, hemlock

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubmeup (Post 1059790061)
Cheers for the link, i've just read it and the associated topic.
Nice one JH, you've confirmed all the suspicions about your motives regarding tpuc, undermined every 'good' thing you've done and made yourself look like a petulant, hypocritical, nepotistic little fuhrer.
All in a days 'work' eh.

One thing that we are all forgetting here boys and girls, is that TPUC is a business with business sales and merchandise. Or it was, it may not be so now.

John is a man. a living, breathing human being with a right of equality.

While John may choose not to stand under statute legislations and stand in his own power as a free man on the land, equal to (and indeed, as he has said 'no greater and no lesser than') all others: in creating TPUC as a merchandise outlet such falls into corporate territory.

While John remains free of obligation to statute law, his business and site (where it comes under business heading) do not - because they are part of the corporate world and as such liable to corporate legislation.

The banner of Equality comes into play here too - because how can one corporate entity be judged differently from another - of course John has to abide by statute law governing corporate entities, he would make a mockery of his own standing of a freeman and the status he is afforded under Equality if he did not.

John is not a corporate entity, and therefore his move to be a free man is justified. TPUC where it existed as a corporate entity, however, must be judged as a corporate entity - simply because it is in business. Where it moves away from merchandise and business, it then becomes removed from corporate responsibilities - the move John has taken to remove merchandise is a perfect reflection of this.

Of course, i suspect that the OP is aware of the difference between a man and a corporation, and likewise aware that TPUC as a corporate entity was not removed from corporate responsibility, and moreover was immersed within it.

John is not TPUC. TPUC is not John. The two are very different.

One is a man, one is / was a corporate entity, liable under Equality to pay sufferance to corporate legislation: unlike John who chooses under the same Equality to be free of legislation.

Is it any wonder then that TS have weighed in and hoofed their sized nines around - applying corporate legislation upon a corporate being via statutes that govern ALL corporations?

Interesting connotation eh?

But, of course, the weetabix brigade don't want to listen to that, they want to listen to this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianthebrain (Post 1059787184)
after much speculation, the truth about the recent event at tpuc have come to life,,

trading standards have popped round to his( JH) house after complaints about him selling dodgy advice on DVDs,,,, pmsl,,,, wish id have thought of that,, congrats who ever did that,, good man

AND,,,an injunction was threatened against him for breaching a STATUTE re giving info out about the family court,,, needless to say john just lauthed at their order, returned it no contract and invoked the MC,, WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!! HE DIDN'T, HE JUST DID WHAT THE COURT TOLD HIM, oh well that pisses on that bag of chips then, he only advises others to ignore the courts, when it comes to saving his sorry arse, he just doffs he cap,, yes sir, right away sir

further more after trading standards visit,, he is no longer selling or even giving away DVDs for fear of being prosecuted,,,, no don't,, i cant stop lauthing and is putting a,,,, for entertainment only purposes only disclaimer,,, on tpuc


he also appears to have run out of gullible folk to leach off whilst he writes his long awaited book,, and has got himself a job, paye and all,,, careful john youl be paying your council tax next,, on the subject of which,, the first chapter is now out,, all 800 words of it, it concerns johns previous incarnation as an Egyptian prince and,,, well as you can guess. the rest is bollux

it makes their day so much more worthile :D

:rolleyes:

naymind eh ;)


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