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decode reality 17-04-2016 09:46 AM

Transhumanism themes in music
 
Just out of interest, this thread is to post songs and other links on the subject of transhumanism as it appears in popular music, past as well as present. I was listening to Gary Numan and that whole 'robot' persona was an integral aspect of his early work visually and sonically, such as 'Are Friends Electric?'. Numan was Bowie influenced, and Kraftwerk of course were pioneers in this area.

Wiki defines it as follows:

'Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international and intellectual movement that aims to transform the human condition by developing and creating widely available sophisticated technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities.'

You may wish to add your own definition along with a music clip! ;)

I'm not making a value judgement on the music itself; some of it I really like, but as this is quite a new area of research (thus far I think only Mark Devlin has covered it in his new book, Musical Truth), it would be interesting to see your various takes on it.

decode reality 17-04-2016 09:49 AM

I think Sun Ra, quite an underground but influential figure, was hinting towards it with much of his sci-fi/outer space themed work.

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berten60 17-04-2016 10:29 AM

Kraftwerk's Man-Machine:An old song in a new remix,but the message is clear enough:

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decode reality 17-04-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by berten60 (Post 1062715963)
Kraftwerk's Man-Machine:An old song in a new remix,but the message is clear enough:

Good choice. There was initially quite a lot of resistance to purely electronic music in the music press. It's amazing how times change; that altered vocal effect has become the norm, whereas you'd only hear the occasional track with a vocoder in years gone by.

gregory_peccary 17-04-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062715967)
Good choice. There was initially quite a lot of resistance to purely electronic music in the music press. It's amazing how times change; that altered vocal effect has become the norm, whereas you'd only hear the occasional track with a vocoder in years gone by.

In years gone by a vocoder cost the same as a house so there weren't many of them around to be used.
Nowadays anybody with a laptop can (and does) do it.

decode reality 17-04-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gregory_peccary (Post 1062715985)
In years gone by a vocoder cost the same as a house so there weren't many of them around to be used.
Nowadays anybody with a laptop can (and does) do it.

And the early synthesisers were at least as big as somebody's bungalow.

truthy 17-04-2016 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by berten60 (Post 1062715963)
Kraftwerk's Man-Machine:An old song in a new remix,but the message is clear enough:

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Actually all of Kraftwerk (except the very early stuff without the electronics) is what came to my mind too. Man-Machine, Computer Love, The Robots, etc.

I like Kraftwerk btw, they influenced the electronic genre a lot and are one of the most-sampled bands today. Furthermore one should always see their lyrics in relation to the time they were in when computers were on the rise and computers in music too. So it just mirrors the style they actually co-invented.

fairyprincess 17-04-2016 04:45 PM

Jake the peg???

decode reality 17-04-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by truthy (Post 1062716110)
Actually all of Kraftwerk (except the very early stuff without the electronics) is what came to my mind too. Man-Machine, Computer Love, The Robots, etc.

I like Kraftwerk btw, they influenced the electronic genre a lot and are one of the most-sampled bands today. Furthermore one should always see their lyrics in relation to the time they were in when computers were on the rise and computers in music too. So it just mirrors the style they actually co-invented.

I'm familiar with the handful of singles that got into the UK charts and a couple of tunes sampled by early hip hop artists. Hearing something like Autobahn really did sound futuristic. As you point out, they were embracing the technology that was on the cusp of becoming commonplace but at that point was underground, or used in TV studios such as the BBC Radiophonic Workshop (which coincidentally did the music for Dr Who and Blake's 7). That early electronica worked much better with the content of those shows than traditional sounding instruments would have.

This is the composer who wrote the Dr Who theme and worked in that workshop. 1969!

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decode reality 17-04-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fairyprincess (Post 1062716112)
Jake the peg???

Possibly so. Or Metal Mickey? People bounce back

decode reality 17-04-2016 05:30 PM

A lot of post-punk British synthesiser music has echoes of what would be later called 'transhumanism', as well as dystopian themes.

Have a look at 19.00 to about 22.00 from the documentary Synth Britannia.

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truthy 17-04-2016 05:58 PM

Now I remembered what I liked to listen to many years ago. It's a great conceptual album by the alternative rock band "Our Lady Peace" with direct reference to Kurtzweil and Transhumanism in their song "In Repair".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_Machines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Rep..._Peace_song%29

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truthy 17-04-2016 08:48 PM

This thread is fun, might add some more.

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decode reality 13-08-2016 05:12 PM

And of course this, from 2005.

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deca 13-08-2016 05:24 PM

you are a why behind the curve

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the hard sell is on ....

paddy_blake 13-08-2016 05:56 PM

All these were the pioneers of Electro in the early eighties. It was this kind of music, mostly derived from Kraftwerk's influence, that gave rise to much of the robotic dancing that became extremely popular, and its obvious influence on Hip Hop.

Herbie Hancock - Rockit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhD4PD75zY

Man Parrish - Hip Hop, Be Bop (Don't Stop) [HQ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsfJn8YdwQ

Hashim - Al Naafiysh (The Soul)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46sF1PcqL8

Afrika Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGh_5lL4z1Q

Example of Robotic Dancing:

MR. ROBOT BREAKDANCE SENSATION 1984 Flash TOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUHgpFJBCw4

paddy_blake 13-08-2016 06:06 PM

There is also the Cyberpunk genre in science fiction, that made its way into popular culture, especially games, Anime and comics, and then into music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk

Also don't forget the huge influence of movies like Blade Runner, Terminator, Robocop, Cyborg, aesthetically, musically and culturally. Also, TV-series like Star Trek The Next Generation with Data the android, and The Borg.

cosmic tramp 13-08-2016 09:44 PM

Numan's "Cars" is one ( man and car becoming one) . "Down in The Park" is a dark one too.

white light 13-08-2016 09:54 PM

Robot bands Z-Machines & Compressorhead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DyYLLf3m8

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deca 13-08-2016 10:04 PM

Fedde Le Grand - 'Put Your Hands Up For Detroit' (Official Video)
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