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real6 14-01-2010 04:58 AM

Italy in racism debate as migrants quit riot town
 
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNew...60A04520100111

ROME (Reuters) - Hundreds of African immigrants have been evacuated from a southern Italian town, authorities said on Sunday, following some of the worst racial violence in Italy since World War Two.

The evacuation followed three days of clashes in the southern Calabrian town of Rosarno, which began when some local residents began attacking immigrants who responded by rioting.

At least 53 people, including 18 policeman, were injured in the unrest in the town, located in Italy's southwestern toe.

Authorities moved more than 1,000 people, mostly illegal temporary workers from sub-Saharan Africa to immigrant centres around Italy in an operation that lasted from Saturday through to the early hours of Sunday.

Even workers with regular residence permits left the town to escape a climate that one political commentator compared to the 1960s Ku Klux Klan racial violence in the United States.

Immigrants without regular papers risk expulsion to their country of origin and the authorities on Sunday began demolishing their former makeshift homes in Rosarno.

Interior Minister Roberto Maroni said the government had "brilliantly resolved the problem of public order" and thanked police for organising the exodus "in an exemplary way."

The violence has inflamed a long-running political debate on immigration. Maroni blamed the unrest on years of "mistaken tolerance" while the opposition accuses the government of fuelling xenophobia.

The front page headline of the anti-government Daily Fact newspaper referred to the immigrants' departure as "Ethnic Cleansing".

Pope Benedict departed from the prepared text of his weekly Angelus blessing to appeal for tolerance.

"An immigrant is a human being, different in origin, culture and tradition but he is a person with rights and duties who must be respected," he told the crowd in Saint Peter's Square.

AIR RIFLE ATTACK

The clashes started on Thursday, when a gang of white youths in a car fired air rifles at a group of African immigrants returning from work on farms, injuring two of them.

The attack set off a night of rioting by dozens of Africans, who smashed car windows with steel bars and stones and set cars and rubbish bins on fire. That in turn sparked more attacks from residents determined to drive the immigrants out of the area.

"I have never hurt anyone, I don't know why they attacked us, we are here to work," Ajra Saibu from Togo, one of the men fired at on the first night of violence.

Some 8,000 illegal immigrants work in Calabria, most as day labourers picking fruit and vegetables.

Many live in abandoned factories with no running water or electricity and human rights groups say they are exploited by the 'Ndrangheta, Italy's most powerful mafia organisation.

"The state does not exist in Calabria, it's the 'Ndrangheta which regulates social relations," said Pierferdinando Casini, leader of the opposition Union of Christian Democrats party.

Roberto Calderoli, a minister from the same far-right Northern League party as interior minister Maroni, said with unemployment at 18 percent in the south of Italy, "work should go to the Italians ... not to illegal immigrants".

If necessary, agricultural pay levels should be increased to make them acceptable to locals, he said.

Silvio Berlusconi's government has taken a hard line against illegal immigration and has moved to stem a tide of immigrants who board boats in Africa to try to reach its southern shores.

Some boats have been turned back on the open seas, prompting criticism of the Italian government by the United Nations' refugee agency. The European Commission has also voiced concern over the policy.

mysticmolly 14-01-2010 05:15 AM

Awesome

rydeon 14-01-2010 05:15 AM

I've met people from Italy and they tell me they are sick of the immigrants awash in the country. It's nearly as bad if not worse as the UK.
Although in Italy there is no welfare state like the UK...

purple rain 14-01-2010 05:18 AM

Looks like the race mongers are going to flood in here soon.

zarah 14-01-2010 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058551731)
Awesome

Awesome that there was violence and innocent people got hurt? I really don't understand you.

mysticmolly 14-01-2010 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by zarah (Post 1058551752)
Awesome that there was violence and innocent people got hurt? I really don't understand you.

No, awesome they are leaving!

Whooo!!!


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real6 14-01-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058551731)
Awesome

How the fuck is that awesome?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058551757)
No, awesome they are leaving!

Whooo!!!


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Why?

cpfc12 14-01-2010 01:17 PM

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eternal_spirit 14-01-2010 01:57 PM

Several people have been injured in rioting that broke out in southern Italy after an attack on immigrant farm workers by local youths.
The migrants, mainly Africans, clashed with police after taking to the streets of the Calabrian town of Rosarno.
They were protesting after youths in a car used air rifles to shoot and hurt several immigrants returning from working on the farms.
Hundreds of illegal immigrants work in the mainly agricultural region.
They are often employed as day labourers picking fruit and vegetables.
Regional governor Agazio Loeiro described the migrants' actions as "unacceptable" but said there had been strong provocation.
The protesters clashed with police in riot gear after taking to the streets on Thursday night. Cars were burned and shop windows smashed.
Many shouted "We are not animals" and carried signs saying "Italians here are racist", Reuters news agency reports.
Several of the protesters have been arrested. The Corriere della Sera newspaper said 14 Italians and six immigrants had been injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8447990.stm

mikey mikey 14-01-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058551757)
No, awesome they are leaving!

Whooo!!!


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Che ne sai tu del'italia? Una sega scommeto. Devi proprio celebrare una risa?
Sei mallata. Da vero.

entrainment 14-01-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey mikey (Post 1058552710)
Che ne sai tu del'italia? Una sega scommeto. Devi proprio celebrare una risa?
Sei mallata. Da vero.

What????

mikey mikey 14-01-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by entrainment (Post 1058552712)
What????

Well I thought that since MM knew enough about Italy's situation to celebrate a riot, she must be able to understand their language.

Ma mi sembra che lei non capisca niente del'italiano o l'italia.

purple rain 14-01-2010 03:21 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Molly is also happy over the Haiti tragedy.

runciter 14-01-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mysticmolly (Post 1058551757)
No, awesome they are leaving!

Whooo!!!


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you seem to have lost your humanity, how did it happen?

they come here because "we" are destroying their countries' economies etc.

milone 14-01-2010 03:51 PM

I stayed with family in Calabria this past summer and let me tell you the illegal immigrant problem there is huge!!!! Thousands of Africans are being housed in a military camp on the outskirts of town and are free to roam the city during daytime hours....none of them work...they are fed and clothed and housed by the state (at taxpayer's expense) crime has increased so has the panhandling and intimidation by these bastards. They walk around like they own the place and I am not surprised that the Italian people are finally fed up with them...I say send them all back home to where they came from. Southern Italy is pretty much a 3rd world country already and most of the Italians can't even find work there. These illegal immigrants bring nothing of benefit to the country and are not the responsability of the Italian people.

the white knight 14-01-2010 03:56 PM

Go Italy go What else are local people expect to do the politicians like those here in the UK refuse to do anything about it just sit back and watch there countries flooded by the dregs from the rest of the world.

d9d9d9 14-01-2010 04:36 PM

Quick history lesson for ignorant members of this forum (mysticmolly and the white trash/ knight ) :

"Italy was one of the European countries with colonies in Africa during the modern period. Lasting from 1890 to 1941, Italian colonialism in Africa included the presentday countries of Libya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia. Italian colonialism in Africa came to an end with the death of the Italian leader Benito Mussolini, the collapse of the Fascist regime, and the defeat of Italy in World War II. Half a century of Italian colonialism had long-term effects on attitudes towards race and racism in both Italy and its colonies.


Italy’s colonial experience forced Italians to confront the presence of non-Europeans within the Italian Empire. The presence of black Africans, especially, led some Italians to construct racial hierarchies in which Italians and other Europeans stood at the top, Arabs and North Africans somewhere in the middle, and black Africans at the bottom in terms of rights and privileges. "


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real6 14-01-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by d9d9d9 (Post 1058552928)
Quick history lesson for ignorant members of this forum:

"Italy was one of the European countries with colonies in Africa during the modern period. Lasting from 1890 to 1941, Italian colonialism in Africa included the presentday countries of Libya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia. Italian colonialism in Africa came to an end with the death of the Italian leader Benito Mussolini, the collapse of the Fascist regime, and the defeat of Italy in World War II. Half a century of Italian colonialism had long-term effects on attitudes towards race and racism in both Italy and its colonies.


Italy’s colonial experience forced Italians to confront the presence of non-Europeans within the Italian Empire. The presence of black Africans, especially, led some Italians to construct racial hierarchies in which Italians and other Europeans stood at the top, Arabs and North Africans somewhere in the middle, and black Africans at the bottom in terms of rights and privileges. "


This is where peoples true colors come out.

decim 14-01-2010 04:38 PM

Don't worry about it...



the white knight 14-01-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d9d9d9 (Post 1058552928)
Quick history lesson for ignorant members of this forum (mysticmolly and the white trash/ knight ) :

"Italy was one of the European countries with colonies in Africa during the modern period. Lasting from 1890 to 1941, Italian colonialism in Africa included the presentday countries of Libya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia. Italian colonialism in Africa came to an end with the death of the Italian leader Benito Mussolini, the collapse of the Fascist regime, and the defeat of Italy in World War II. Half a century of Italian colonialism had long-term effects on attitudes towards race and racism in both Italy and its colonies.


Italy’s colonial experience forced Italians to confront the presence of non-Europeans within the Italian Empire. The presence of black Africans, especially, led some Italians to construct racial hierarchies in which Italians and other Europeans stood at the top, Arabs and North Africans somewhere in the middle, and black Africans at the bottom in terms of rights and privileges. "


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What has that got to do with todays world 2010.


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