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phantom 11-01-2016 12:40 PM

Lori Maddox & Bowie ~ Tavistock
 
Let's see the reaction I get from Bowie idols on this post.

You do know that Bowie had sex with Lori Maddox when she was 13 years old. Whether she consented or not, she was still a child.

I am wondering if anyone will now come forward to reveal they too had sex with Bowie while they were under-age.

After having sex with Bowie, Maddox went on to sleep with guitarist and founder of the rock band Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page when she was 14 years old.

Listen to her laughing about the time Bowie took her virginity. She does not reveal her age at the time but it was before she had sex with Jimmy Page and she was 14 when she have sex with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnViqstGsYs&t=11m24s

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom (Post 1062661120)
Let's see the reaction I get from Bowie idols on this post.

You do know that Bowie had sex with Lori Maddox when she was 13 years old. Whether she consented or not, she was still a child.

I am wondering if anyone will now come forward to reveal they too had sex with Bowie while they were under-age.

After having sex with Bowie, Maddox went on to sleep with guitarist and founder of the rock band Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page when she was 14 years old.

Listen to her laughing about the time Bowie took her virginity. She does not reveal her age at the time but it was before she had sex with Jimmy Page and she was 14 when she have sex with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnViqstGsYs&t=11m24s

i'm amazed how people fawn over these idols and how they all rush out to buy their stuff after they die thereby helping to fill the coffers of the illuminati record companies and their tavistock handlers

The system gives people their idols

white light 11-01-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062661123)
i'm amazed how people fawn over these idols and how they all rush out to buy their stuff after they die thereby helping to fill the coffers of the illuminati record companies and their tavistock handlers

The system gives people their idols

And their hates.

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strummer101 (Post 1062661122)
The world is certainly a poorer place today than it was yesterday, sad day.

I see Michael Eavis puts him alongside Sinatra & Elvis. Gambaccini (does he do anything other than comment when people die?) ranks him alongside Beethoven! I can sort of see what he means.

I think if you took any half-decent band over the last 30 years, they will have their Bowie influence somewhere.

Unfortunately it did give us Gary Numan as well but guess you take the rough with the smooth!

That 'Life on Mars' video, still a killer today.

well i think some would say that bowie stole a lot from iggy pop and the rest....who knows how much of it came directly from tavistock institute people eg gender bending alter egos like 'ziggy stardust'

But anyway....moving onto sinatra with his mafia links....wasn't he just a singer? Did he write anything of note?

Also elvis...he was another puppet of the system who was pushed forward to commodify and cheapen rock and roll as it grew out of a fusion of black gospel and blues and scottish folk music

They put up a whiteboy to do a silly dance and that was that everyone went fucking nuts thereby hijacking any other possible influence the emerging field of music might have had in an attempt to rob it of any artistic merit

and micheal eavis...well who knows what contacts he has who have helped him push the counter culture in the UK from his pyramid stage

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 01:47 PM

Kabbalistic lightening strike....

Grateful dead= MKUltra tavistock puppets
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...s6-c30.jpg&f=1

Lady ga ga= MKUltra project monarch mind controlled slave
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...2Fgaga.jpg&f=1

Harry Potter- occult rehabilititation in the public eye psyops
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...8scar3.jpg&f=1

Eagles of death metal (band at paris attacks)
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...parijs.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...26crop%3D1&f=1

david bowie- MKUltra tavistock social engineering attack on gender, ziggy stardust was a fractured psyche alter ego

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...n-sane.jpg&f=1

decode reality 11-01-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062661126)
well i think some would say that bowie stole a lot from iggy pop and the rest....

In the creative process, everyone 'steals' (if you want to use that term) from other sources. From the most innovative to other lesser mortals. Iggy himself had his influences from other artists. It's what a handful of innovative artists do with the influences that sets them apart.

You're not a fan of his work and that's fine. The fact that any musician's work will have echoes of other artists is par for the cause. It's the creative process AND the learning process and it isn't actually restricted to the music field.

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 01:49 PM

“Labyrinth” Starring David Bowie: A Blueprint to Mind Control

The 1986 movie Labyrinth, starring David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly, immerses the viewers into a world of fantasy and wonder. Like many other fantastic tales, the movie conceals within its symbolism an underlying meaning and, in this case, it is rather disturbing. Labyrinth describes the programming of a mind control victim at the hands of a sadistic handler. We will look at the occult meaning of the symbolism found in Labyrinth.

But like many of these delightfully twisted fantasy movies, there is more to Labyrinth than meets the eye. By understanding the occult symbolism and references in Labyrinth, the movie becomes a big allegory for mind control, where each scene refers to a particular aspect of the process. What appears to be a young girl’s quest through a Labyrinth to find her baby brother becomes a metaphor for the internal world of a mind control victim that is being programmed by a handler. The obstacles that Sarah, the hero of the story, must go through relate to real life ordeals inflicted to mind control slaves to incite dissociation (if you have no idea what I’m talking about, read the article entitled Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control). Mind games, torture, drugs and sexual abuse are all referred to in veiled symbolism during the movie, giving to “those in the know” an entirely different story than what is shown at face value. Labyrinth is therefore constructed like most esoteric works in History: it uses symbolism to conceal from the masses while revealing to the initiates.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesand...-mind-control/

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661159)
In the creative process, everyone 'steals' (if you want to use that term) from other sources. From the most innovative to other lesser mortals. Iggy himself had his influences from other artists. It's what a handful of innovative artists do with the influences that sets them apart.

You're not a fan of his work and that's fine. The fact that any musician's work will have echoes of other artists is par for the cause. It's the creative process AND the learning process and it isn't actually restricted to the music field.

let me help you decode reality...

i'm not just not a fan of his work i'm telling you his work was part of a giant ongoing psyops operation launched against society by the tavistock institute which was created with funding from the rockefeller foundation

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 01:56 PM

The lightening flash as it passes down the kabballist tree of life

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._wk_02.svg.png

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fairyprincess (Post 1062661169)
Firstly. I love labyrinth.

Secondly, I have my own theory.

Jennifer Connelly plays Sarah. A teenage girl from a single family, who dad remarries. film implies she had no friends and no boyfriends.

The character would rather play childish dress up games rather the average teenage persuits. And her bedroom is littered with items that seem to show up in her trip through the labyrinth BEFORE it happens, including a photo of her with David Bowie.

This implies that her whole adventure is psychotic episode, brought on by her adolescence and her family life.

The presence of the 'goblin king' who looks like David Bowie implies its a strong sexual fantasy, that only resolves itself when she realize she can control her urges....

Watch it. See if I'm wrong...

mind control is an induced psychotic episode

decode reality 11-01-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062661161)
let me help you decode reality...

i'm not just not a fan of his work i'm telling you his work was part of a giant ongoing psyops operation launched against society by the tavistock institute which was created with funding from the rockefeller foundation

iamawaveofthesea,

I'm not one for making predictions on the forum, but the one thing I knew almost certainly was that someone would bring a conspiracy angle to this thread.

I've listened to a lot of his work, read interviews, articles, books, seen documentaries etc. As far as I see, Bowie was someone who was, like many artists of his generation, keenly interested in the esoteric; and, incorporated the interest into his work. By coincidence, there are people in the upper echelon of society with those interests. ''Coincidence' being the operative word here.

If this elite was supposedly using him for whatever purpose, then I'm sorry, I never had the urge to do copious amounts of class-A drugs, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. And even though loads of guys began going out wearing women's clothes after having seen Bowie, I must say it wasn't a direction I wanted to go in. :) To each their own.

It's funny because it used to be the norm for musicians to take a theatrical approach to their work and infuse symbolism of all kinds, and that includes western culture. Anyone who does anything remotely like that now is considered the devil's spawn. Would it be less contentious if artists all dressed like 1970s geography teachers, with blazers and leather elbow patches? But seriously, I sometimes think some 'truth-seekers' want artists that are spotless, whiter than white, with no possible innuendo about them.
Well, Justin Bieber fits the bill, I hear.

From a purely musical point of view I rate Bowie highly, as well as in a broader creative sense. I like the fact that he took risks, went out on a limb, didn't play it safe when he could quite easily have done so. Those are things that will always inspire me. There aren't too many people of high profile who are taking that kind of path, which is why we have such a high proportion of mediocrity in mainstream music. That's also why so many people are saddened by his passing.

banquos ghost 11-01-2016 02:39 PM

I read some of the remarks on here and thought "Here we go again.....", but, listening to 'China Girl' on the radio, some lyrics came across as, well, you tell me what you think.....

I could escape this feeling, with my China Girl
I feel a wreck without my, little China Girl
I hear her heart beating, loud as thunder
Saw they stars crashing
I'm a mess without my, little China Girl
Wake up mornings where's my, little China Girl
I hear hearts beating, loud as thunder
Saw they stars crashing down
I feel a-tragic like I'm Marlon Brando
When I look at my China Girl
I could pretend that nothing really meant too much
When I look at my China Girl
I stumble into town just like a sacred cow
Visions of swastikas in my head
Plans for everyone
It's in the whites of my eyes
My little China Girl
You shouldn't mess with me
I'll ruin everything you are
I'll give you television
I'll give you eyes of blue
I'll give you men who want to rule the world
And when I get excited
My little China Girl says
Oh baby just you shut your mouth

She says... sh-sh-shhh

Odd lyrics for a 'love' song?

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661177)
iamawaveofthesea,

I'm not one for making predictions on the forum, but the one thing I knew almost certainly was that someone would bring a conspiracy angle to this thread.

I've listened to a lot of his work, read interviews, articles, books, seen documentaries etc. As far as I see, Bowie was someone who was, like many artists of his generation, keenly interested in the esoteric; and, incorporated the interest into his work. By coincidence, there are people in the upper echelon of society with those interests. ''Coincidence' being the operative word here.

No not a coincidence

The tavistock institute had massive influence not only in the upper echelons of the british establishment where they plotted to create a new state-socialist world government with themselves as the ruling class (orwells 'pigs' in his book 'animal farm') but also across the music industry

In fact big money had such a grasp on not only the production of music through managers, producers and studios but also on the distribution of music through the record companies, the TV stations and the radio stations

This is why MKUltra and tavistock oeprative jimmy saville got to present 'top of the pops' and be a disk jockey

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661177)
If this elite was supposedly using him for whatever purpose, then I'm sorry, I never had the urge to do copious amounts of class-A drugs, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. And even though loads of guys began going out wearing women's clothes after having seen Bowie, I must say it wasn't a direction I wanted to go in. :) To each their own.

Much of the work of the tavistock has been to study subconscious influences for example it has been found that music heard by children when they are young will induce a child like state in them when they are adults

If you have a film like 'star wars' which is watched by millions of kids that music will be etched in their psyche

This is a relatively recent evolution in human society as mass produced music has not been around that long

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661177)
It's funny because it used to be the norm for musicians to take a theatrical approach to their work and infuse symbolism of all kinds, and that includes western culture. Anyone who does anything remotely like that now is considered the devil's spawn.

No many started doing all that stuff as part of the psyops either consciously or unconsciously

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661177)
Would it be less contentious if artists all dressed like 1970s geography teachers, with blazers and leather elbow patches? But seriously, I sometimes think some 'truth-seekers' want artists that are spotless, whiter than white, with no possible innuendo about them.
Well, Justin Bieber fits the bill, I hear.

It's not necessarily being against theatre per se...i'm not a puritan!!!!!

It is about recognising that there are agendas at play so that you have more control over your own thought

If you are not consciously aware of these agendas then more of your thoughts and behaviours will be unconsciously steered by the agenda

Justin beiber is an illuminati puppet....wearing his trousers low which is an american prison sign that you are ready to be someones 'bitch'

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661177)
From a purely musical point of view I rate Bowie highly, as well as in a broader creative sense. I like the fact that he took risks, went out on a limb, didn't play it safe when he could quite easily have done so. Those are things that will always inspire me. There aren't too many people of high profile who are taking that kind of path, which is why we have such a high proportion of mediocrity in mainstream music. That's also why so many people are saddened by his passing.

and i'm saying that much of his ideas, music, style and so on may have come directly out of psychology think tanks like the tavistock which are using your unconscious mind as their own little experiment and wider society as a giant laboratory

All children programmes like 'iggle piggle' and the 'telly tubbies': itsy, ditsy, flipsy and flopsy or whatever they're called are all created by psychologists to plant things subconsciously in the mind of children and to arrest their speech development

The symbols on the heads of the teletubbies are all deliberate

jake_ball 11-01-2016 02:47 PM

I think that Bowie was part of the Tavistock thing, but he does seem like a good man, and artist. I can't help but feel sad that he is gone from here.

fairyprincess 11-01-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062661172)
mind control is an induced psychotic episode

Possibly. Except I don't seen any evidence of it in the film....

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 03:06 PM

Pressure on idol and role model to the young, bowie to be 'bixesual'?

"I was always a closet heterosexual."[210] On other occasions, he said his interest in homosexual and bisexual culture had been more a product of the times and the situation in which he found himself than his own feelings; as described by Buckley, he said he had been driven more by "a compulsion to flout moral codes than a real biological and psychological state of being." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 03:09 PM

more confusion....

he made statements that expressed support for fascism and perceived admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "Britain is ready for a fascist leader... I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism... I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership." He was also quoted as saying: "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and "You've got to have an extreme right front come up and sweep everything off its feet and tidy everything up."[225][226] Bowie later retracted these comments and blamed them on mental instability caused by his drug problems at the time, saying: "I was out of my mind, totally, completely crazed." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie

decode reality 11-01-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea (Post 1062661191)
No not a coincidence

The tavistock institute had massive influence not only in the upper echelons of the british establishment where they plotted to create a new state-socialist world government with themselves as the ruling class (orwells 'pigs' in his book 'animal farm') but also across the music industry

In fact big money had such a grasp on not only the production of music through managers, producers and studios but also on the distribution of music through the record companies, the TV stations and the radio stations

This is why MKUltra and tavistock oeprative jimmy saville got to present 'top of the pops' and be a disk jockey



Much of the work of the tavistock has been to study subconscious influences for example it has been found that music heard by children when they are young will induce a child like state in them when they are adults

If you have a film like 'star wars' which is watched by millions of kids that music will be etched in their psyche

This is a relatively recent evolution in human society as mass produced music has not been around that long



No many started doing all that stuff as part of the psyops either consciously or unconsciously



It's not necessarily being against theatre per se...i'm not a puritan!!!!!

It is about recognising that there are agendas at play so that you have more control over your own thought

If you are not consciously aware of these agendas then more of your thoughts and behaviours will be unconsciously steered by the agenda



and i'm saying that much of his ideas, music, style and so on may have come directly out of psychology think tanks like the tavistock which are using your unconscious mind as their own little experiment and wider society as a giant laboratory

All children programmes like 'iggle piggle' and the 'telly tubbies': itsy, ditsy, flipsy and flopsy or whatever they're called are all created by psychologists to plant things subconsciously in the mind of children and to arrest their speech development

The symbols on the heads of the teletubbies are all deliberate

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

You may well see Tavistock programming; I have to say I don't, for these reasons.

There are some people who will see or suspect an agenda pretty much everywhere. Within that claim, there's an underlying subtext; i.e. ordinary members of the public who take up music are incapable of coming up with compositions and images out of their own creative imaginations. It must be the work of an elite think tank somewhere. Credit the "ordinary person on the street" with SOME talents, for goodness sake.

While I don't rule out the influence of these think tanks in some spheres of society, where things pertaining to the music industry are concerned, 'truthers' always attempt to create a one size fits all narrative that they can conveniently project upon any artist whom they disapprove of. It might help if people studied the artists themselves, rather than what some biased hearsay Youtube video made by some stranger, is telling them. The artists are far too nuanced, and the music business far too random and unpredictable (particularly in Bowie's heyday) to be reduced to this kind of black and white thinking.

white light 11-01-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banquos ghost (Post 1062661186)
I read some of the remarks on here and thought "Here we go again.....", but, listening to 'China Girl' on the radio, some lyrics came across as, well, you tell me what you think.....

I could escape this feeling, with my China Girl
I feel a wreck without my, little China Girl
I hear her heart beating, loud as thunder
Saw they stars crashing
I'm a mess without my, little China Girl
Wake up mornings where's my, little China Girl
I hear hearts beating, loud as thunder
Saw they stars crashing down
I feel a-tragic like I'm Marlon Brando
When I look at my China Girl
I could pretend that nothing really meant too much
When I look at my China Girl
I stumble into town just like a sacred cow
Visions of swastikas in my head
Plans for everyone
It's in the whites of my eyes
My little China Girl
You shouldn't mess with me
I'll ruin everything you are
I'll give you television
I'll give you eyes of blue
I'll give you men who want to rule the world
And when I get excited
My little China Girl says
Oh baby just you shut your mouth

She says... sh-sh-shhh

Odd lyrics for a 'love' song?

Didn't Iggy Pop write the lyric for that?

iamawaveofthesea 11-01-2016 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decode reality (Post 1062661217)
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

You may well see Tavistock programming; I have to say I don't, for these reasons.

There are some people who will see or suspect an agenda pretty much everywhere. Within that claim, there's an underlying subtext; i.e. ordinary members of the public who take up music are incapable of coming up with compositions and images out of their own creative imaginations. It must be the work of an elite think tank somewhere. Credit the "ordinary person on the street" with SOME talents, for goodness sake.

While I don't rule out the influence of these think tanks in some spheres of society, where things pertaining to the music industry are concerned, 'truthers' always attempt to create a one size fits all narrative that they can conveniently project upon any artist whom they disapprove of. People are far too nuanced to be reduced to this kind of black and white thinking.

no i think humanity are infinately creative but i think that the music industry is a tightly controlled area where many creative and talented people are frozen out of it

The 'successful' people who gain 'success' because they are promoted by the corporate media are the ones who are helping further the agendas of the el-ite who have such a tight control over the industry

To think otherwise is naive


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