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trappedinameatsuit 24-10-2010 07:58 AM

Why are reptilians so bad? I don't get it. If one human commits a crime are they all evil? Are they hellbent for destruction and downfall of humans?

adramelech 24-10-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trappedinameatsuit (Post 1059354099)
Why are reptilians so bad? I don't get it. If one human commits a crime are they all evil? Are they hellbent for destruction and downfall of humans?

Basic biology.

"The reptile can break into the mammal's nest, destroy and eat all of the young and be burrowed into the still warm and living flank of the mother before any reaction is evident. Our anthropomorphic verdict would be that reptiles don't even know they are lucky, while mammals don't really believe that reptiles can exist."

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...esAreAbhorrent

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScaledUp

Reptilians are the predator of man, or mammals. From our perspective, the perspective of prey, it would certainly appear that our predators must hate and revile us. However, I would hesitate to call their actions evil any more than I would say a person who eats a hamburger "hates" cows. Most humans don't think highly enough of them as life to attribute such emotions. In the same way, Reptilians view us as chickens in a coop.

I don't think they are evil, I think they are hungry. ;)

beldazar 24-10-2010 09:56 AM

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I don't think they are evil, I think they are hungry
You could well be right there, if they somehow need our energy and cannot do without, what then?

I cannot believe a clip in that Relic film, the museum
curator is talking anout an alter where blood sacrifice is carried out and the heart cut out and eaten and some bloke replies, "we could do with one of them at the Town Hall", was that an in-joke? :eek:

camreeno 24-10-2010 09:12 PM

Awesome. I'm on the third segment and I might even get to all of it. How was it researched? Because a lot of things it said don't seem to be in Icke's books.

trappedinameatsuit 25-10-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adramelech (Post 1059354194)
Basic biology.

"The reptile can break into the mammal's nest, destroy and eat all of the young and be burrowed into the still warm and living flank of the mother before any reaction is evident. Our anthropomorphic verdict would be that reptiles don't even know they are lucky, while mammals don't really believe that reptiles can exist."

- Christopher Hitchens

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...esAreAbhorrent

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScaledUp

Reptilians are the predator of man, or mammals. From our perspective, the perspective of prey, it would certainly appear that our predators must hate and revile us. However, I would hesitate to call their actions evil any more than I would say a person who eats a hamburger "hates" cows. Most humans don't think highly enough of them as life to attribute such emotions. In the same way, Reptilians view us as chickens in a coop.

I don't think they are evil, I think they are hungry. ;)

I'm not talking about snakes and alligators.

adramelech 26-10-2010 05:27 AM

I just finished watching this. It's a good compilation of raw information, yet lacks a solid context in many places. I understand this was largely the intention of the filmmakers, however. The first several parts are by far the most important. I was wondering if there's any way to contact them directly?

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Originally Posted by trappedinameatsuit (Post 1059358575)
I'm not talking about snakes and alligators.

Sure you are, in a way. Reptilians are still reptiles. Humans are still mammals. The biological reaction is universal. It's easy to see why Reptilians are feared and vilified by humans when you take this into account.

johnthejedi24 26-10-2010 06:02 AM

Should reptiles(and reptilians) even be able to become intelligent? It seems if they do/did become intelligent beings it would probably take longer than a warm blooded and/or mammalian species to evolve to that point. I also believe they would end up having a more conservative/stagnant mindset and would take a lot longer to think up new ideas and solutions to problems than mammals. Although if they evolved before us they would still be more intelligent and have more advanced technology.

adramelech 26-10-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthejedi24 (Post 1059359078)
Should reptiles(and reptilians) even be able to become intelligent? It seems if they do/did become intelligent beings it would probably take longer than a warm blooded and/or mammalian species to evolve to that point. I also believe they would end up having a more conservative/stagnant mindset and would take a lot longer to think up new ideas and solutions to problems than mammals. Although if they evolved before us they would still be more intelligent and have more advanced technology.

Short answer: yes. It's an over simplification to say dinosaurs were cold-blooded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaurs#Physiology

I also made an old thread about this here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3795

thefreeradical 28-10-2010 04:03 AM

Subliminal, I appreciate you giving us the heads up about this, I really loved watching it.

subl1minal 29-10-2010 07:38 PM

Thanks to whoever made this a sticky! :D

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Originally Posted by thefreeradical (Post 1059365419)
Subliminal, I appreciate you giving us the heads up about this, I really loved watching it.

You're very welcome!

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Originally Posted by adramelech (Post 1059359051)
I just finished watching this. It's a good compilation of raw information, yet lacks a solid context in many places. I understand this was largely the intention of the filmmakers, however. The first several parts are by far the most important. I was wondering if there's any way to contact them directly?



Sure you are, in a way. Reptilians are still reptiles. Humans are still mammals. The biological reaction is universal. It's easy to see why Reptilians are feared and vilified by humans when you take this into account.

Message them on YouTube.

pound 31-10-2010 04:06 AM

Great find!

Now I know what to watch when I get some free time, thanks. :)

*can't seem to get the links to appear.

phemohilia 31-10-2010 06:27 AM

Damn, I must be link-repellent because everytime I come upon something really kewl the damn links iz gone!!! :(

subl1minal 31-10-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by subl1minal (Post 1059339846)
Wondering if the Mods could sticky this? it's a brilliant documentary made by InfiniteFreeThinkers, they're big fans of Icke and they've made a friggin FINE piece of work here. It's in 22 parts and the videos are around 10-15 mins long. I haven't seen anything else like this, it gives an objective view of the whole Reptilian 'thing' for people who won't cross that line or are new to it. The evidence for Reptilians or 'Reptoids/Reptile Gods' is overwhelming in this video and it's a must watch for people who believe or even the ones who are highly skeptical. I can't rate it high enough! I feel these guys have definitely taken it to the next level, if you see this guys, pat yourselves on the friggin back!

(Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqoAfwliBmo


(Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFqfAh8J2hA

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5L0Z546nrc

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iNvfeNk-tU

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYffL4yjB_4

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHy9kdaf5IE

Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi--E4KMaZI

Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNoIa1BUhPs

Part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjpLlpmQSWE

Part 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSTcwf5SWOo

Part 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSYR74BctVI

Try quoting them :D

subl1minal 31-10-2010 03:57 PM

And the second bunch :)

phemohilia 31-10-2010 04:20 PM

It was late, I was groggy, my mind was OH LOOK IS THAT A BAT FLYING IN THE ROOM?????? *makes use of not-so-clever segue* :o


Thanks Sub!! :D

lyricusmagna 31-10-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zeta39reticuli (Post 1059342337)
EDIT: Yeah, so far, this film is completely bias. I'm only on the first video, and he's looking into the "history" of reptilians. He cites reptile like statues and idols as evidence of reptilians and gives this broad history, but either completely ignores or forgets that most of this is symbolic. Not to mention, the serpent and reptiles in general weren't the only animals to be mystified in ancient times. Anything ranging from a Lion to a rabbit, to friggin' dung beetles might have had some symbolic nature or represented an old God at one point in time.

Much of the time, animals were used as a form of symbolism. IE, Snakes and serpents usually symbolize deceit, resurrection, cunning (Excluding the Dragon, which can be considered a symbol of power), Lion as Leadership, Strength, Courage, Scorpions as Death, etc. Sometimes, their Gods would take the shape of these animals

Where do you think the symbolism originated?

People (around the globe) in those times supposedly 'invented' medicine, alchemy/chemistry, astrology, astronomy, agriculture etc., yet they all attributed the origin of those domains of knowing to the teachings from 'The Gods'? Some of which were 'reptile-like'?

Give thanks to the wonderful teachings to imaginary deities? Symbolical representations, of what again?

And why?

Am I the only one who finds these arguments utterly ridiculous?

This is where the absurdity of such claims as yours, and those with a similar mindset comes in play.

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Originally Posted by zeta39reticuli (Post 1059344051)
I hadn't gotten too far into that when I wrote my post above, but if you really want to get into the strange things people believe(or believed in, in both modern and ancient times.), we can.


This is wikipedia's list of mythical creatures and beings from all over the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...dary_creatures


Many of these creatures take the forms of various different creatures and things. Some of them as disturbing as walking corpses, to as mythical as fairies, nymphs, Ogres, and Elementals.

In all honesty, if I really wanted to, I could go through history and try to prove any of these creatures exist the same way this guy did. But I'll get more into this later when I have the time to. Right now, I need to get ready for work.

You, as a human being that spent some time on this planet, should have realized by now that we humans label things we don't know, through things we do know, or are familiar with. As symbolical labels to these things that are unknown to us.

What in the world makes you think that these 'Reptoids' are actually earth-like, reptilian species on two legs? Or that they are labeled as such, exactly because people think they are that way?

We are talking about an extraterrestrial species here. Reptilian species on Earth are at the very least carbon-based. More scientifically/analytical information concerning this subject gives a strong emphasis that these alien species are not carbon-based as we are. Most of the information points to them being hydrogen-based. All, breathe either ammonia, methane, or pure nitrogen. Most also seem to exhibit such odors as well too. Is that something akin to Earth reptiles?

The sole reason many people nicknamed them 'Reptoids', is because of their nature, behavior, and a few physical characteristics that people interpret as being "reptile-like". Yes, its symbolical designation given to a pretty real extraterrestrial species.

Same applies to the insect-like "Gods, and the feline-like "Gods".

Say, humans discover alien life on some of the future expeditions in nearby star systems. What do you think they are going to nickname the species as? Something already existing in human language, and already seen. Something that the said alien species looks/behaves like.

Even from a scientific basis, humans are going to give it a name describing a similar life form found on Earth (most likely). Let's say, Insolitum Fungor, for a life form looking/behaving similar to Earth fungi etc.

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Originally Posted by zeta39reticuli (Post 1059349133)
I'd like to address two points made in the videos, one of them being the Hallow Earth theory.

For one, it's completely impossible. At least, it is in the way described in the videos. Gravity clumps things together, and leaves very little room, and while there might be smaller caverns down deeper into the Earth's crust, there can't be anything of that size, and I couldn't imagine anything being able to live down in there. (Except, maybe certain extremophiles)

Also, gravity doesn't work in some of the models presented. The models look old and it's obvious that they're out of date. There's no way for gravity to magically reverse like that to where you could "walk" on the earth.

Another good point to make is that the Hollow Earth would crumble. Normal matter is not strong enough to support a massive structure like that against gravity.

The Hollow Earth theory is taken too literally. It has huge hollow pockets and cave systems, that grow in size as you approach the core. There is evidence of this. Not proof, but evidence nonetheless.

Also, given the progenitors of the 'Reptoid' races are supposedly from Thuban, which is an A-class star, two classes more hot and more luminous then our own sun, and almost twice as hot as our sun too. I wouldn't be surprised that the 'Reptoids' would seek a place to live deep underground, where the temperature is really hot, in order to feel "at home". We are talking about an extraterrestrial species, right?

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Originally Posted by trappedinameatsuit (Post 1059354099)
Why are reptilians so bad? I don't get it. If one human commits a crime are they all evil? Are they hellbent for destruction and downfall of humans?

They are not all 'bad' actually. Given their record with human encounters that is.

It seems that it depends from which place they come from. There seem to be 'Reptoid' ETs that are neutral to benevolent with their behavior/actions with humans here, that are either from Sirius, Capella, Eta Arietis or 70 Ophiuchi.

miguean 01-11-2010 01:44 PM

i tried clicking on the links but it didnt work :(

beldazar 01-11-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by miguean (Post 1059377366)
i tried clicking on the links but it didnt work :(

Try copy-pasting the whole title into your search box to find it on you-tube.

wthree 01-11-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lyricusmagna (Post 1059375512)
Most of the information points to them being hydrogen-based.

A hydrogen-based life form wouldnt work.

lyricusmagna 01-11-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wthree (Post 1059377646)
A hydrogen-based life form wouldnt work.

Really? Explain why.


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