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sweeping_meteor 26-01-2012 11:28 AM

is Ian R Crane credible?
 
i've heard bits and peice about him but not a lot.

i just heard that he is going to be speaking in belfast soona dn i was looking to know has anyone heard him and is he informed?

here is the link to his shows. http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php...&productId=355
just wondering if anyone else is going or have heard him before


thanks

anto

blahblah 26-01-2012 01:02 PM

No..

Never trusted him..He's part of 'it'

Too many 'in' jobs throughout his career...too closely related to the Elite companies and governments..

nirvana 26-01-2012 01:10 PM

You will proboly find out 99% of conspiracy that is on these boards have come from the elite to spoon feed the truth sheep:rolleyes:

If they elite can create religeons,banks,etc they can create conspiracy aswel.;)

wake_up_bomb 26-01-2012 01:15 PM

If you've been something of an insider then you're obviously a tool of the elite, if you haven't been involved directly in any of the things you write or speak of then you don't know what you're talking about.

You can't win really...

thommo 26-01-2012 01:25 PM

I've seen quite a lot of his stuff. He is good, informative but is very much into exopolitics. He has useful information so it's always worthwhile listening irrespective of what you may think of him as a person. :)

martg 26-01-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvana (Post 1060551819)
You will proboly find out 99% of conspiracy that is on these boards have come from the elite to spoon feed the truth sheep:rolleyes:

If they elite can create religeons,banks,etc they can create conspiracy aswel.;)

No doubt, I'm not sure if any of these researchers are willing tools of the PTB but they are still alive because they are doing exactly what the inner core want.

as for I.R.C. his exposé of the gulf oil spill was the most in depth out there.

sweeping_meteor 26-01-2012 01:44 PM

thanks guys.
same question goes out about foster gamble and his thrive stuff.

i suppose there is a bit of truth in wat everyone says im just immediatly sceptical about oil barons and big drug company family members talking.

theres enuf bull to wade thru without being deliberatly fed more rto be distarcted

totallybonkers 26-01-2012 01:48 PM

I have to say, I do have my suspicions, something doesn't seem quite right, but regardless I'm all for him speaking, making presentations and so on. I would go and see his presenations if local too so he can't be all that bad.

ceti 26-01-2012 01:57 PM

35 fucking quid for him to tell you how fucked you are.Keep it take some acid use the cash for petrol drive into nature and trip your balls off.Much more fun.

nongeekywebdude 26-01-2012 02:11 PM

he has always struck me as "overly commercial", whether his talks are worth going to I don't know, have only ever seen him on youtube etc. But at £35 a ticket I would very much doubt its worth it, the info presented would have to be absolutely amazing and not available anywhere else, but that goes for others too, not just Mr Crane.

Has anyone been to one of his talks around the country? Perhaps they could chime in with their thoughts on "value".

nirvana 26-01-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martg (Post 1060551877)
No doubt, I'm not sure if any of these researchers are willing tools of the PTB but they are still alive because they are doing exactly what the inner core want.

as for I.R.C. his exposé of the gulf oil spill was the most in depth out there.

Your right many of the researchers will not willingly be tools of the elite . But if they were telling the real truth ,they would of gone the same way as Dr kelly.

Dangerous business telling the real truth.;)

nirvana 26-01-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceti (Post 1060551916)
35 fucking quid for him to tell you how fucked you are.Keep it take some acid use the cash for petrol drive into nature and trip your balls off.Much more fun.


All researchers do this for a living its there business. Car sales men sells cars researchers sells conspiracy.

Conspiracy is a corporation like every other corporation.

nirvana 26-01-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nongeekywebdude (Post 1060551941)
he has always struck me as "overly commercial", whether his talks are worth going to I don't know, have only ever seen him on youtube etc. But at £35 a ticket I would very much doubt its worth it, the info presented would have to be absolutely amazing and not available anywhere else, but that goes for others too, not just Mr Crane.

Has anyone been to one of his talks around the country? Perhaps they could chime in with their thoughts on "value".


There is nothing wrong with charging £35 for tickets this is what he does for a living.

The truth industry is just like every other industry. Its all business.

ceti 26-01-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvana (Post 1060551979)
All researchers do this for a living its there business. Car sales men sells cars researchers sells conspiracy.

Conspiracy is a corporation like every other corporation.

Price tags on information is part of are silly problems.

nirvana 27-01-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceti (Post 1060552175)
Price tags on information is part of are silly problems.

The awakening and truth movement is an industry ;) .It is proboly the industry part which is being used as a block for solutions.:o

Its funny how certain researchers will tell you money is illusion its worthless but will not let you through the door without it:D

Reminds me when alex jones was selling an expensive dvd set through his website about how to live without money etc.:D

nongeekywebdude 29-01-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvana (Post 1060552002)
There is nothing wrong with charging £35 for tickets this is what he does for a living.

The truth industry is just like every other industry. Its all business.

It all depends on the content of the talks as I said, if this is revolutionary, original material never before heard or seen, then maybe some would feel its worth £35, on the other hand if its all stuff readily available on youtube or other sources, then its £35 down the drain. Thats why I asked for those who had paid to see him previously to chime in with thoughts on the value of his presentations.

Of course some may feel that £35 for a pleasant afternoon listening to the same old conspiracy stuff and surrounded by like minds is worth it, I'm not one of those. A the end of the day I suppose its up to the individuals whether they think its worth it or not

freedom1st 29-01-2012 11:34 AM

I don't trust any of them. And most of the info is put out by tptb. This world is a mindfuck until you see the patterns.

lesleypumpshaft 29-01-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvana (Post 1060554422)
The awakening and truth movement is an industry ;) .It is proboly the industry part which is being used as a block for solutions.:o

Its funny how certain researchers will tell you money is illusion its worthless but will not let you through the door without it:D

Reminds me when alex jones was selling an expensive dvd set through his website about how to live without money etc.:D

I've often wondered about that. I think some do concessions for unemployed and oap.

cafe beelzebub 29-01-2012 01:25 PM

I've seen him talk, he did a two hour presentation on a 3 day convention I went to last year. Of the 20 speakers or so I saw talk he was by far the best. He is similar to David in the respect that he talks about the global power structure, he also goes into other realms.. for example he is big into consciousness and shamanism, DMT experiences and so on. He also talks about the UFO phenomenon.

There is a lot of overlap with the topics Icke covers.

He is a very entertaining and passionate speaker. I can definitely recommend seeing him. I think £35 is expensive though.

cafe beelzebub 29-01-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedom1st (Post 1060560196)
I don't trust any of them. And most of the info is put out by tptb. This world is a mindfuck until you see the patterns.

Do you think most of the info David Icke has put out in the last 20 years has been put out by tptb?

How would having any of this information out benefit tptb?


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