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9/11 was there a plane ?


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14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

So you admit that no plane is flying at that speed 20ft off the ground and furthermore would not make a hole in a building made of concrete and steel like that?

 

Whoah there, didn't you just add something on to that? I admit that in my video, with safety guidelines in place, the pilot was unable to push past 391mph on a fly by. That is what I admitted. As for it going 140mph faster after a steep dive and with the pilot not giving a monkeys aboutbtrashing the engines. Dead easy. It would blast through exactly as shown. The front would compress with all the metal/passengers/food/bulkheads/trolleys/seats/luggage and hit the wall with catastrophic kinetic energy.

 

14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

If not, then I can't help you, your video proved nothing.

 

I don't need your help in any branch of aviation or science. Thanks. And nothing will ever prove anything to a closed mind.

 

14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

What happened that day defies the law of physics and tes you are a troll.

 

Nope, No laws defied there and I suspect you know less about physics than you do about plane engines. You also don't know what a troll is.

 

14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

You were caught out with your suggested speed and compare the difference to the video the guy posted, now that's a speed were kind of talking about, buy guess what, no commercial jet is doing that 20ft off the floor by a human.

 

Meaningless rhetoric. The video I showed is a simple demo with a plane at low level doing just under 400mph. Notice it did not fall to bits as you claimed. No human will pilot a plane at such an extremely dangerous height at faster than safety maximum. Only a suicidal person would do this and that is kind of the point here.

 

14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Also, the majority of pilots in the world would struggle to hit any of those buildings and you can take that from John Leah, the grandson of Leah Jets who has more airmiles than you or I combined or will ever have in multiple lifetimes. 

 

I can take it from him as he is a famous conspiracy theorist or I can watch some guy on youtube do it first time on plane software. You don't get to say "majority of pilots" with any degree of authority.

 

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9 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

I'm not wrong and you know it. Arnie, hmmm, I'll be back, maybe? Would be your style. You think we're stupid, it's obvious every single time. 

 

You said "a pilot in the comments even said that plane was not flying at 340 KIAS. "

 

The pilot said "This airplane is not going any faster than 340 KIAS."

 

That's wrong and we both know it. He says not any faster than maximum, you said he said they weren't doing it.  Where's the "BOOM" meme.

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6 minutes ago, Arnie said:

 

Jumprogue, who's that? I assume you must have skim read what the pilot actually said because this is a direct quote.

 

Hello. As a pilot I can assure you that smart pilots do not risk their lives, or the lives of others in their group. The jet in this video is a 757-200 that has a VNE of 340 KIAS.  This airplane is not going any faster than 340 KIAS.

 

KIAS for "Knots-Indicated Air Speed"  So thank you for actually busting yourself. I said 340-350 knots and the damn pilot simply says he isn't going any faster than KIAS!340 knots is 391 mph.

 

Whoops!

 

Too hasty son, you backed the wrong horse.

 

Son?  Son? 🤣
As a great man once said:
I live on the limit Vyvyan, the limit, because I am a rider at the gates of dawn, and I take no prisoners.

You move too soon, the 2nd rule in a crisis situation:

 

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You'd think the people with multiple accounts that started posting on the old forum years ago, who are sure aircraft were used that day would, by now, be able to post proof. They can't and just post the same old nonsense time and time again.

 

No aircraft of any type crashed on 911. And there's every chance nobody died either. The perps didn't need to kill 3000 people, they just needed to sell the illusion that 3000 died.

 

https://www.septemberclues.info/

 

 

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2 hours ago, mishy said:

You'd think the people with multiple accounts that started posting on the old forum years ago, who are sure aircraft were used that day would, by now, be able to post proof. They can't and just post the same old nonsense time and time again.

 

No aircraft of any type crashed on 911. And there's every chance nobody died either. The perps didn't need to kill 3000 people, they just needed to sell the illusion that 3000 died.

 

https://www.septemberclues.info/

 

 

 

They just needed to sell a war and the mass surveillance of westerners.

 

>neocons start a war with the middle east

>middle easterners start to resent westerners because of said war

>let those middle easterners in the west

>cultural marxists teach them to hate westerners as soon as they get of the boat

>neocons and cultural marxists two sides of the same coin? I'll let the lurkers decide

 

The elites that hate the West and Islam get to pit their enemies against each other. Meanwhile useful idiots on the internet are still arguing about how the towers came down instead of who was behind it and who benefits. Now who is it that says they they they will use Muslims as their broom to destroy the West? What do our most radical replacements think should happen to those those that won't submit to the will of Allah? Decapitation? What is the punishment for idolatrary in the Noahide laws? Could [email protected] be using their brothers Ishmael as useful idiots? It's not rocket science. They literally admit to using Islam as their broom.

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15 minutes ago, legion said:

 

 

 

If the planes are CGI then there would be no victims on the planes. If you dig a bit you'll find the towers were not some bustling office blocks like they would like you to believe. Or continue to post bollocks. Up to you.

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34 minutes ago, mishy said:

 

If the planes are CGI then there would be no victims on the planes. If you dig a bit you'll find the towers were not some bustling office blocks like they would like you to believe. Or continue to post bollocks. Up to you.

Speaking of the planes, I wonder how those people made phone calls mid flight from their cell phones? Building 7 housed CIA, NSA and more, wasn't even hit by a plane but somehow how fell to the floor, vertically. 

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No calls, script, goes in the same category as an almost unscathed passport being found, if people genuinely believe that happened like media portrayed it then I worry for them.

Didn't Silverstein amend the insurance policy for the World Trace Centre not long before it occurred so that in the event of both going down they would pay out double? I may have made that up...

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3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

No calls, script, goes in the same category as an almost unscathed passport being found, if people genuinely believe that happened like media portrayed it then I worry for them.

Didn't Silverstein amend the insurance policy for the World Trace Centre not long before it occurred so that in the event of both going down they would pay out double? I may have made that up...

He did, it's in Odds Twatter video above. A huge red flag. 

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Here is one specific video I haven't seen yet (and I've seen alot of them) this one surprises me by the authenticity of it, by this I mean specifically the reaction and timing of the people around, some of them can be heard screaming and mentioning 'a Plane' .
See from 0:27 on the video.
It could be bullshit, yet another planned set up, or CGI, but - in my opinion - the way I feel when watching this - it definitely looks 100% like a real plane, including the sound?
Of course, people would scream having witnessed such a large explosion anyway, but I feel that they DID witness an actual plane here?
Was it a a remote controlled plane (drone) that hit it - that's one of my questions - although - a question that will remain just another unanswered question for now. 


EDIT: Was it just 1 plane they needed - for there to be witnesses, the 1st explosion was planned to just go off at a certain time - this could have just happened without the need for that 1st plane? (just one CGI'd in after)
People would have just heard an huge explosion and thought WTF?  So... just one plane needed for the 2nd hit. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, mishy said:

no victims on the planes


l agree. no victims -  on the military drone planes
plenty of victims in the towers - plenty of police and firecrew and bystanders in the streets killed and maimed
and plenty carried on dying for years after being engulfed in the toxic dust

your 'no planes' at the towers is utter garbage and goes into the flat earth box of psy-ops against truth seekers IMO
 

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3 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

What is it here you mean here Enigmatic?  Do you mean everyone who has been involved in this particular thread?


 


l would guess so - and hes right - myself included - who did 911 and why ? (the answer is not bin laden or al queda)

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31 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Was it a a remote controlled plane (drone) that hit it


definitely IMO

the 'real perpetrators' could not risk real passengers fighting back and stopping this event - the charges were already in place

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Lastly, I just spotted this, which throws myself into doubt yet again, why is the plane wing disappearing behind a building that is actually in the background?
An boject - obviously - can only pass in front of something like a building that is in the background.
You can check 0.33 on the clip and slow it down to 0.25 speed:
plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

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19 minutes ago, legion said:


l agree. no victims -  on the military drone planes
plenty of victims in the towers - plenty of police and firecrew and bystanders in the streets killed and maimed
and plenty carried on dying for years after being engulfed in the toxic dust

your 'no planes' at the towers is utter garbage and goes into the flat earth box of psy-ops against truth seekers IMO
 

Ah  the old 'no planes is against the truth movement' line.

 

What is this, 2008?

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