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3 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

Cognitive dissonance is really not what you think it is!

You don't know what I know it is.

 

Your faulty perceptions are your faulty perceptions.

4 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

I don't support the official theory

You are on record, more than once, saying that you do support the official account of events.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Enforcement said:

You are on record, more than once, saying that you do support the official account of events.

 

You are a liar. And tell me, since you "just got here" how you would know this.

 

I am, and have always been a "they let it happen" believer. 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Comedy Time said:

 

I don't care what you think it is, it doesn't apply to any of this discussion. 

 

Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.

 

 

 

You are a liar. And tell me, since you "just got here" how you would know this.

 

I am, and have always been a "they let it happen" believer. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes and you have stated many times that you believe the official version of events that resulted in the collapse of the towers.

Are you Ok man? you forget your own argument and contradict yourself more than anyone I have ever known.
 

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Just now, Enforcement said:

Are you Ok man? you forget your own argument and contradict yourself more than anyone I have ever known.

 

Oh dear yet another one who ignores posts.

 

You are a liar. And tell me, since you "just got here" how you would know this.

 

Show me where I contradict myself. I believe mostly the official story but consider that they let it happen to gain traction in the Middle East - I don't think they anticipated the extent of the attack.

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25 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

If you say so.

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.

You people have about a dozen or more weirdo variants of this crazy unfeasible operation. Why don't YOU argue with the no planers! I argue about specific things relating to it. I don't support the official theory, I just don't support the explanations for alternatives. So far.

 

@Enforcement I do get rather sick of every single person I "debate" with ignoring significant posts completely!

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23 minutes ago, Enforcement said:

As you have said several times before so you are the liar saying I'm a liar.


Discussing things with you is bizzar it's almost as though you are gaslighting yourself.

Are you ok man?

 

Who were you before Reet Hard?

 

You are turning this discussion into a personal exchange....and deliberately ignoring posts. I asked you to Show where I contradicted myself "more than anyone you know" ....and tell me how you "know this"!!

 

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.

You people have about a dozen or more weirdo variants of this crazy unfeasible operation. Why don't YOU argue with the no planers! I argue about specific things relating to it. I don't support the official theory, I just don't support the explanations for alternatives. So far

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9 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Who were you before Reet Hard?

 

You are turning this discussion into a personal exchange....and deliberately ignoring posts. I asked you to Show where I contradicted myself "more than anyone you know" ....and tell me how you "know this"!!

 

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.

You people have about a dozen or more weirdo variants of this crazy unfeasible operation. Why don't YOU argue with the no planers! I argue about specific things relating to it. I don't support the official theory, I just don't support the explanations for alternatives. So far

 

 

Wow. Yet another "new" poster who ignores content and makes pathetic off topic and inaccurate personal shite comments.

 

Kindly address the quoted post. 

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Pentagon video of the moment 'something' hit it.  (looks to me like a small plane driving on the ground very very fast?  (or a missile dressed up as a plane)
EDIT:  click onto this twitter page and also check the 2nd video taken from above - it moves and accelerates too fast for a normal ground based vehicle, you can see it emerges suddenly at a rate of speed and accelaration too fast for a car, looks like some kind of large missile?)
It also emerges suddenly - it emerges from a point - you can see behind it it - it didn't just arrive INTO view it is a shot from a standstill point of origin - it didn't 'arrive' into the cameras view. (it was already in the cameras view when it started)

 

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1 hour ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Pentagon video of the moment 'something' hit it.  (looks to me like a small plane driving on the ground very very fast?  (or a missile dressed up as a plane)
EDIT:  click onto this twitter page and also check the 2nd video taken from above - it moves and accelerates too fast for a normal ground based vehicle, you can see it emerges suddenly at a rate of speed and accelaration too fast for a car, looks like some kind of large missile?)
It also emerges suddenly - it emerges from a point - you can see behind it it - it didn't just arrive INTO view it is a shot from a standstill point of origin - it didn't 'arrive' into the cameras view. (it was already in the cameras view when it started)

 

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I think the first thing to address here is no plane on this planet can fly that low at that speed. I've never seen that second video, but look at how low it is to the ground. One assumes the plane was at floor level way before it struck the pentagon. Likelihood of that being possible? Highly improbable.

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25 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

 

 

Debunking the 9/11 No-Planes Theory: The "Nose-Out" Fallacy (debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com)

 

For there to be no planes and simply crashing the things. when people actually saw them :

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies!
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.
2 hours ago, Morpheus said:

I think the first thing to address here is no plane on this planet can fly that low at that speed. I've never seen that second video, but look at how low it is to the ground. One assumes the plane was at floor level way before it struck the pentagon. Likelihood of that being possible? Highly improbable.

 

Go and try it on a flight-simulator. Definitely can be done.

 

And as for the Pentagon no plane:

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Arnie said:

 

Debunking the 9/11 No-Planes Theory: The "Nose-Out" Fallacy (debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com)

 

For there to be no planes and simply crashing the things. when people actually saw them :

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies!
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.

 

Go and try it on a flight-simulator. Definitely can be done.

 

And as for the Pentagon no plane:

 

 

There's yet another one you completely failed to debunk Arnie.
 

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14 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

There's yet another one you completely failed to debunk Arnie.
 

 

Your sound rebuttal puts me firmly in my place. I cannot think why you quoted that whole post and failed to address the points it raised.

 

What was the othere one(s) - I must have missed your response(s).

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Arnie said:

 

Debunking the 9/11 No-Planes Theory: The "Nose-Out" Fallacy (debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com)

 

For there to be no planes and simply crashing the things. when people actually saw them :

 

Now we need:

  • A team to dispose of the planes and the bodies!
  • A team to burn and mangle the bodies to sprinkle DNA all over the area, or a team to fake the analyses.
  • We still need a team to place tiny body parts everywhere.
  • A team to drive around dropping bits of plane around the area, including a massive plane engine in full view of spectators!
  • A team to do this at the Pentagon with cameras on helicopters and emergency services arriving any time soon.
  • A team to control the military aircraft. Paper trails to be destroyed accounting for the aircraft.
  • ALL paper trails paying any personnel to be deleted and financial reimbursements hidden.

 

Go and try it on a flight-simulator. Definitely can be done.

 

And as for the Pentagon no plane:

 

 

Show me a commercial jet that can fly at 20ft above the ground at 400mph. I mean, we'll forget that at such a speed and the materials it's made out of would just fall to pieces. But yeah, so possible. 

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