sock muppet Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, webtrekker said: This is why some say that human immortality is impossible because cosmic rays would knock out most of your irreplaceable brain cells in a couple of hundred years, leaving behind nothing but a vegetable. Mind you, I know many people in their 20's and upwards already walking around in that state so maybe these cosmic rays are more powerful than we think! UV light does exactly the same thing which is why it is so useful as a method for sterilising things, there was some concern about pilots/passengers continually flying at high altitude and the effects on health as the exposure to these things is greater the higher you go, but we have slipped off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, sock muppet said: Indeed, everyone has the false assumption that the vacuum of space is empty, but this is far from the truth, every second of everyday the Earth is struck with cosmic rays which are particles moving close to the speed of light and capable of shredding anything it comes into contact with because they have Mass. Yes anyone that thinks space is a vacuum needs to do dome reading instead of quoting utube 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishy Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 hours ago, lake said: Trying to be fair I have been looking at the 'No Planes' concept - There are some interesting points but I still consider that 2 drones hit WTC 1 & 2 and that the Pentagon was hit by a missile (right in the monies) and Shanksville was a badly constructed bullshit site. I will continue looking but a few bits I will put below (long walls of text in quotes so you can scroll past with ease). I found this interesting .... It is from January 2000 and is an article from the Independent Full text in quote: The page has of course gone but it is on archive here: https://web.archive.org/web/20080420045800/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/when-tv-brings-you-the-news-as-it-didnt-happen-728236.html So before the year 2000, live tele could be altered in real time and additions/changes made. With the above in mind .... the images we all saw (over and over) that day of the planes from the TV channels, never showed a plane actually impacting the WTC buildings. The ones replayed all day were of the second plane moving toward the South tower: That was it (as far as I know) and any other videos/images came later from 'street people'. This below is the supposed video of the first plane striking the North tower .... It is the only video of that plane actually hitting the tower. (there is meant to be a single pre-impact still image out there some where as well): This below is a remastered and upscaled (so changed) video of the above: WTC 9/11 | First Plane Hit in North Tower | Jules Naudet Video (Remastered 60fps AI Upscaled) In the quote below there is the opening page of Leslie Raphael’s work : Jules Naudet’s First Plane Shot Was Staged .... who did believe that there were planes but considered that Naudet's film was setup. This video below is by Gerard Holmgren and apart from being 'potato' quality, it is him stating (in effect) that we who believe planes were used are suffering .... well the term now would be 'Mass Formation Psychosis'! This below quote contains a 5 page pdf which gives an overview of why people consider 'No Planes' maybe correct: Began to format it correctly but got bored .... the short pdf is here: http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Why-they-didnt-use-planes.pdf This below is also of worth to watch as it has lots of 'old' TV footage .... Adding to this on a slightly different angle .... this is slightly off topic as it is old footage 3 days after and a news report asking where the buildings had gone .... As said I will continue to research the concept of 'No Planes'. The Naudet clip is enough to prove the first plane wasn't real. No wing scar at the point of impact. https://fakeotube.com/video/48/september-clues---911-amateur-part2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 5:20 PM, zArk said: no, i say all the wtc plaza was demolished in the morning, not at the same exact time @zArk we are not a million miles apart in our comprehension of events that took place on that day but i feel we need to converge further on our similar views of what actually happened, so i have the following questions so we can be more in tune. 1. Did anyone die or was injured that day, and if so is your estimate in line with what has been reported of deaths and injuries? 2. How does a building demolish itself in mid air when the only force acting upon the structure is gravity, and in free fall of any object the gravitational force disappears until the object is stopped, and in this case that would be the ground? 3. Three main buildings were demolished that day, WTC 1, 2 and 7, leaving aside the carnage inflicted on the other buildings, why was the demolition of WTC 7 different from WTC 1 and 2? 4. What explanation can you give for the amount of dust that was created with the demolition of WTC 1 and 2, bearing in mind gravity can not do this alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sock muppet said: @zArk we are not a million miles apart in our comprehension of events that took place on that day but i feel we need to converge further on our similar views of what actually happened, so i have the following questions so we can be more in tune. 1. Did anyone die or was injured that day, and if so is your estimate in line with what has been reported of deaths and injuries? 2. How does a building demolish itself in mid air when the only force acting upon the structure is gravity, and in free fall of any object the gravitational force disappears until the object is stopped, and in this case that would be the ground? 3. Three main buildings were demolished that day, WTC 1, 2 and 7, leaving aside the carnage inflicted on the other buildings, why was the demolition of WTC 7 different from WTC 1 and 2? 4. What explanation can you give for the amount of dust that was created with the demolition of WTC 1 and 2, bearing in mind gravity can not do this alone? 1. yes, i guess so give or take a few hundred or so. I dont see the WTC deaths being problematic but i also dont see any reason why actors weren't used...(actors in the sense of crisis actors, managers within the war zone, puppet newsreporters) considering a bunch of hijackers are still alive , i guess a good few people didnt exist (created faces and names) and some victims are still alive but there are many dead. and i am pretty sure a plane load of people disappeared at Cleveland. 2. dunno thats a conundrum i can solve quickly by saying the evidence of such a thing is a video which i do not trust as authentic 3. its my opinion that WTC 7 was a theatre show in the afternoon so it could be a controlled and managed truth if the official story fundamentals began to fall apart i.e the plane story -- some hijackers were still alive, the conflicting videos, the nose out, the wrong jet engine, etc etc 4. plasterboard and low density concrete in the floors and walls. Pretty much however i do not know how the dust cloud volume could possibly be estimated and applied to the plaza complex size in order to justify a 'dust overload' scenario. Edited October 19, 2022 by zArk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 6 hours ago, zArk said: 1. yes, i guess so give or take a few hundred or so. I dont see the WTC deaths being problematic but i also dont see any reason why actors weren't used...(actors in the sense of crisis actors, managers within the war zone, puppet newsreporters) considering a bunch of hijackers are still alive , i guess a good few people didnt exist (created faces and names) and some victims are still alive but there are many dead. and i am pretty sure a plane load of people disappeared at Cleveland. 2. dunno thats a conundrum i can solve quickly by saying the evidence of such a thing is a video which i do not trust as authentic 3. its my opinion that WTC 7 was a theatre show in the afternoon so it could be a controlled and managed truth if the official story fundamentals began to fall apart i.e the plane story -- some hijackers were still alive, the conflicting videos, the nose out, the wrong jet engine, etc etc 4. plasterboard and low density concrete in the floors and walls. Pretty much however i do not know how the dust cloud volume could possibly be estimated and applied to the plaza complex size in order to justify a 'dust overload' scenario. Been doing some digging on Mike Walter, the chap that gave us the pentagon details in the documentary, 9_11 Truth - September Clues - No plane, he emerged as a journalist/host for a Chinese media company, this one, https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-04-19/Mike-Walter-s-story-as-TV-host-of-Full-Frame-at-CGTN-ZAJug5wAdW/index.html, you should find the image of him blocked by a banner on this page although with a bit of tweaking it is possible to download the video of him from that page. This web site is interesting about Cheney and backs up what i said about him saying about the Vietnam question in a video that i have of him, when i find which one i will post the title of it, https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/04/01/cheney911/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, sock muppet said: Been doing some digging on Mike Walter, the chap that gave us the pentagon details in the documentary, 9_11 Truth - September Clues - No plane, he emerged as a journalist/host for a Chinese media company, this one, https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-04-19/Mike-Walter-s-story-as-TV-host-of-Full-Frame-at-CGTN-ZAJug5wAdW/index.html, you should find the image of him blocked by a banner on this page although with a bit of tweaking it is possible to download the video of him from that page. This web site is interesting about Cheney and backs up what i said about him saying about the Vietnam question in a video that i have of him, when i find which one i will post the title of it, https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2015/04/01/cheney911/ nice find on Walter I wouldnt trust double bollocks talking Kevin Barrett or the bumbling fetz (there was a video posted of Barrett talking in a cafe bar a while ago on the forum, it seemed to crucify him) but as a named soviet/islamist i wouldnt be suprised if hes a double double agent now the cheyney stuff, imo , as i said previously, The neo cons piggy backed /hijacked the WTC demolition with the planes and osama story to prevent martial law in the US. They wanted to expand a US empire in the NWO while the democracts (see oklahoma bombing and wtc93) wanted collapse the US into a bit part of NWO. n.b i dont believe Cheyney, Rums, Wolfo, Bush felt guilty at all, they were/are nationalists at war and they would consider all their actions in defense of their families, their way of life and their country. Edited October 20, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 hours ago, zArk said: The neo cons piggy backed /hijacked the WTC demolition with the planes and osama story to prevent martial law in the US I am going to say what you have said but with a twist, and that is the neo-cons 'ORCHESTRATED' the whole thing, and that is where we differ the most. Neo-con = neo-facsist = rebranded nazis, it is this point that i was referring to when i wrote about rolling back time to pre ww2, the united states corporation was heavily complicit in that war before its outbreak, and then under Operation Paperclip at the end of the war the nazi doctrine and infestation took hold right up to this day, the fall out of which we are witnessing in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 hours ago, zArk said: n.b i dont believe Cheyney, Rums, Wolfo, Bush felt guilty at all Neither do i, in order to carry out such a thing then morality got thrown under the bus, have no sympathy for the devil, this is not random happenstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 12 hours ago, sock muppet said: I am going to say what you have said but with a twist, and that is the neo-cons 'ORCHESTRATED' the whole thing, and that is where we differ the most. Neo-con = neo-facsist = rebranded nazis, it is this point that i was referring to when i wrote about rolling back time to pre ww2, the united states corporation was heavily complicit in that war before its outbreak, and then under Operation Paperclip at the end of the war the nazi doctrine and infestation took hold right up to this day, the fall out of which we are witnessing in Ukraine. i see. I recognise the link to the CIA / OSS for Bush family yet i hold back in considering the neo-cons as the orchestrators of the whole thing as i position them more as a reaction party to the communist infected democrats. I see both as puppets of the designers just like the East vs West politics, Allies vs Axis. but overall we have the same perspective with different nuances 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 2:18 PM, sock muppet said: New MrTruthBomb film, i have not watched this yet so don't ask. PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING - THE SERIES - EPISODE ONE - FALSE FLAG 9/11 - A MrTruthBomb Film https://rumble.com/v1n1rmk-predictive-programming-the-series-episode-one-911-false-flag.html Part two from MrTruthBomb PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING - THE SERIES - EPISODE TWO - 9/11 DARK MAGICK - A MrTruthBomb Film https://www.bitchute.com/video/E1mTxY09KljT/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 See 2 mins and 37 sec of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lhYDJ3QtOg I've never seen that footage but very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 https://collective-spark.xyz/painting-of-george-bush-playing-airplanes-with-two-jenga-towers-found-in-jeff-epsteins-house/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 An excellent discussion that traverses many topics not least of which is the method by which the towers were destroyed with scalar weaponry and the role the Sun plays in it's use. SGT Report Keith's website: https://www.lostagesecrets.com/ Author and researcher Keith Hunter joins me to discuss what he believe to be the hidden science behind artificial earthquakes. Thanks for tuning in! https://www.bitchute.com/video/a9DQJWZkj8CB/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Anyone read or seen the Court Filing regarding this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 10/3/2022 at 9:09 PM, peter said: Yes and when did that start and what is the common denominator 15 minute cities or snow globes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 10/3/2022 at 7:30 PM, lake said: May I ask if you are in the "Empty Building, No Floors" camp? .... and believe this image proves it? On 10/6/2022 at 8:07 PM, sock muppet said: This is a rather nice picture, has a kind of blade runner quality to it, but what does it represent? Also note that in the video you got this image from, the lift stops at floor 107, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 5 hours ago, sock muppet said: 15 minute cities or snow globes, I see your wide of the mark again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 7 hours ago, peter said: I see your wide of the mark again I know my humour stinks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 David Icke featuring Cpt. Dan Hanley: The 9/11 Special https://banned.video/watch?id=64ff64a1c5d54ea882029a4b 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 3/19/2023 at 1:46 AM, sock muppet said: An excellent discussion that traverses many topics not least of which is the method by which the towers were destroyed with scalar weaponry and the role the Sun plays in it's use. SGT Report Keith's website: https://www.lostagesecrets.com/ Author and researcher Keith Hunter joins me to discuss what he believe to be the hidden science behind artificial earthquakes. Thanks for tuning in! https://www.bitchute.com/video/a9DQJWZkj8CB/ Maybe they should have painted the towers Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 On 10/17/2022 at 8:34 PM, mishy said: The Naudet clip is enough to prove the first plane wasn't real. No wing scar at the point of impact. https://fakeotube.com/video/48/september-clues---911-amateur-part2 On 10/19/2022 at 9:51 PM, sock muppet said: 9/11 Truth: September Clues - No plane All available here, https://fakeotube.com/v/31 https://septemberclues.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Stew Peters Directed Energy Weapon Downs WTC: 9/11 False Flag Turned Towers Into Dust Where did the Twin Tower debris go? Andrew Johnson is here to talk about the possibility of direct energy weapons being used to vaporize the World Trade Center on 9/11. The people who believe the official government backed 9/11 narrative are the same people who believe the government is here to help. Andrew Johnson believes the Twin Towers were vaporized and turned to dust. Even the New York Times tried to explain away the dust phenomena. Dr. Judy Wood has a theory that the towers collapsed on 9/11 as a result of something called “free energy technology”. Initially, Andrew believed the official government backed 9/11 narrative. Then, he believed that the towers were downed using pre-placed explosives. Eventually, Andrew rejected these theories after he watched a film called “911 The Great Illusion”. The film demonstrated the towers disappearing over the course of 9 seconds. 80% to 90% of the steel turned to dust in a matter of seconds. The thermite theory made popular over the years doesn't make sense because thermite is incendiary and not an explosive. The thermite theory seems to be controlled by opposition and misinformation. Dr. Judy Wood believes beyond a shadow of a doubt that Direct Energy Weapons were used on September 11, 2001. The people who jumped off the buildings is also a mystery. Many of the people may have also turned to dust and there are some very gruesome stories that back these claims. Andrew Johnson agrees that the evidence is conclusive and Direct Energy Weapons were used to destroy the Twin Towers. For more information on Andrew Johnson’s research go to http://CheckTheEvidence.com Duration 00:41:19 https://www.bitchute.com/video/wMCvOdoGx5xF/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youknownothingbutyou Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Plane or no plane doesn’t matter nothing in the official story could explain the failure and the freefall speed of the WTC7 collapse; the only explanation is a controlled demolition. at this point, only idiots and ignorant fools dont know. but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. Nothing can be done about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 On 9/14/2023 at 9:06 PM, Youknownothingbutyou said: Plane or no plane doesn’t matter nothing in the official story could explain the failure and the freefall speed of the WTC7 collapse; the only explanation is a controlled demolition. at this point, only idiots and ignorant fools dont know. but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. Nothing can be done about it Well, one thing we can be certain with is that no plane hit the pentagon: http://bitchute.com/video/o6tn4K0KlGdQ/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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