9/11 was there a plane ?

[peter]

58 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

so many witnesses .... so many....

 

the scrutiny

 

find me the so many witnesses who say they saw the WTC 7 demolition in the real, not on tv.

That is a dickhead statement, how am I going to do that do I know them personally?no

[peter]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

you cant honestly believe this is 'live' images?

i admit it is enticing to have the 'gotcha' moment, but if you step back and relook at the pictures and the scene you will come round to admitting to yourself "i have been duped into believing a lie"

Ok I fell for it, I wish I was as clever as you, however I have caught you lying more than a few times now therefore I don't believe a word you say and haven't been duped into believing your lies, sorry

You have fallen short over at FE of late so it looks like you want to see how many you can annoy over here 

Edited October 3, 2022 by peter

[zArk]

3 hours ago, peter said:

That is a dickhead statement, how am I going to do that do I know them personally?no

you said it as if they exist

 

like all those eyewitnesses to the planes crashing

 

TV generations think the screen is real life

 

 

 

 

[zArk]

3 hours ago, peter said:

Ok I fell for it, I wish I was as clever as you, however I have caught you lying more than a few times now therefore I don't believe a word you say and haven't been duped into believing your lies, sorry

You have fallen short over at FE of late so it looks like you want to see how many you can annoy over here 

i am talking about a specific issue of 9/11 (WTC7), of Judy Woods DEW nonsense and how they relate to no -planes

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by zArk

[sock muppet]

On 10/2/2022 at 7:14 AM, zArk said:

the entire complex was demolished

 

they demolished the lot in one go, at the same time.

 

then created fake video of the WTC7 collapse and story line PRETENDING it was still standing later in the day

 

the entire days events are a pantomime, a scripted disaster. The best was Mayor Rudy Giuliani playing the hero Bruce Willis stylie

 

 

 

Silverstein gets his new plaza, some insurance, wall street gets shut down and silverstein doesnt get knobbled.

The city gets poisoned by toxic dust but its those damn arabs in the planes to blame

They get a war

 

etc etc

 

 

 

Ok, i'm with you so far and i can see your point, moon landings anyone, and again here comes the big but, everyone in the area had to be in on it, i can see how those from outside the area would only be compos mentis of the buildings falling and the dust event, can you prove to me this theory of just who was at the actual demolition site and can you provide us with the numbers of participants or 'in the know', who were in the vicinity because as i see it, as you describe it, the authorities were trying to pull a stunt and the intention was not to have blood on their hands by murdering people in the area minding their own business as you do in a normal town or city, also there would have been exclusion barriers erected to keep people out of the area to prevent them being killed, do you have exclusion barrier evidence to back this up?

[zArk]

Just now, sock muppet said:

 

Ok, i'm with you so far and i can see your point, moon landings anyone, and again here comes the big but, everyone in the area had to be in on it, i can see how those from outside the area would only be compos mentis of the buildings falling and the dust event, can you prove to me this theory of just who was at the actual demolition site and can you provide us with the numbers of participants or 'in the know', who were in the vicinity

are you supporting Judy Woods DEW theory?

 

i am throwing out all the video, photo and 'witness' statements on that day as everything, everything, was constructed with all post-event reactions accounted for i.e

 

Judy Wood using their photos and reports to construe a DEW theory

 

 

3 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

because as i see it, as you describe it, the authorities were trying to pull a stunt and the intention was not to have blood on their hands by murdering people in the area minding their own business as you do in a normal town or city, also there would have been exclusion barriers erected to keep people out of the area to prevent them being killed, do you have exclusion barrier evidence to back this up?

 

i say the initial explosions (attributed to planes) were designed to clear the WTC plaza complex, which they did. 

i didnt say their intent was not to have blood on their hands.

In my opinion the Neo-cons hijacked the building demolition creating a plane crash and pancake collapse scenario. The original intent, much like the 1993, was to create Martial Law due to unsecure borders and foreign nationals planting bombs in WTC complex.

The initial explosions were designed to introduce the plane theory and allow the media and physical area to be controlled.

 

i say they hid the actual events under a scripted pantomime.

[webtrekker]

1 minute ago, zArk said:

are you supporting Judy Woods DEW theory?

 

i am throwing out all the video, photo and 'witness' statements on that day as everything, everything, was constructed with all post-event reactions accounted for i.e

 

Judy Wood using their photos and reports to construe a DEW theory

 

 

 

i say the initial explosions (attributed to planes) were designed to clear the WTC plaza complex, which they did. 

i didnt say their intent was not to have blood on their hands.

In my opinion the Neo-cons hijacked the building demolition creating a plane crash and pancake collapse scenario. The original intent, much like the 1993, was to create Martial Law due to unsecure borders and foreign nationals planting bombs in WTC complex.

The initial explosions were designed to introduce the plane theory and allow the media and physical area to be controlled.

 

i say they hid the actual events under a scripted pantomime.

 

First off, Judy Wood did NOT say a DEW was responsible. She merely collected all the forensic evidence and it all negated the currently available methods of building demolition, leaving only the possibilty of DEW as the cause.

 

Secondly, how can you say all of the video evidence was faked when I watched this in real time on TV along with thousands of Americans who were ACTUALLY AT THE SCENE?

 

 

 

[peter]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

you said it as if they exist

 

like all those eyewitnesses to the planes crashing

 

TV generations think the screen is real life

 

 

 

 

And you think the earths is flat, as usual you are making assumptions and presenting them as fact  with nothing to back it up

[peter]

4 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Secondly, how can you say all of the video evidence was faked

Everything is fake if it doesn't fit with zark's narrative

[zArk]

1 minute ago, webtrekker said:

 

First off, Judy Wood did NOT say a DEW was responsible. She merely collected all the forensic evidence and it all negated the currently available methods of building demolition, leaving only the possibilty of DEW as the cause.

 

Secondly, how can you say all of the video evidence was faked when I watched this in real time on TV along with thousands of Americans who were ACTUALLY AT THE SCENE?

 

First off reply : fs noodle doodle logic for Judy.

secondly reply : check out September Clues and the september clues forum. All the photo and video comparison evidence is there.

i remember reading Evan Fairbanks saying his camera was taken by the FBI and returned to him later and Rick Siegal admitting his footage and server was taken and only returned much later. Once you start looking into all the videos and 'evidence' it becomes clear that it was all tainted.

 

 

[peter]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

you said it as if they exist

So your saying no witnesses exist anywhere that can refute your opinions

Edited October 3, 2022 by peter

[webtrekker]

1 minute ago, zArk said:

First off reply : fs noodle doodle logic for Judy.

secondly reply : check out September Clues and the september clues forum. All the photo and video comparison evidence is there.

i remember reading Evan Fairbanks saying his camera was taken by the FBI and returned to him later and Rick Siegal admitting his footage and server was taken and only returned much later. Once you start looking into all the videos and 'evidence' it becomes clear that it was all tainted.

 

 

 

Yadda, yadda, yadda ...

 

 

 

[mishy]

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

First off reply : fs noodle doodle logic for Judy.

secondly reply : check out September Clues and the september clues forum. All the photo and video comparison evidence is there.

i remember reading Evan Fairbanks saying his camera was taken by the FBI and returned to him later and Rick Siegal admitting his footage and server was taken and only returned much later. Once you start looking into all the videos and 'evidence' it becomes clear that it was all tainted.

 

 

 

I have to agree with this. None of the footage from that day can be trusted.

[zArk]

3 minutes ago, peter said:

So your saying no witnesses exist anywhere that can refute your opinions

 

so many witnesses, all the witnesses ...........

[zArk]

2 minutes ago, mishy said:

 

I have to agree with this. None of the footage from that day can be trusted.

thank you

[webtrekker]

2 minutes ago, mishy said:

 

I have to agree with this. None of the footage from that day can be trusted.

 

So the buildings are still there then?

 

 

 

[peter]

9 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

so many witnesses, all the witnesses ...........

answer the bloody question

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by peter

[mishy]

Just now, webtrekker said:

 

So the buildings are still there then?

 

 

 

 

No, they were demolished on 911.

[webtrekker]

Just now, mishy said:

 

No, they were demolished on 911.

 

But I saw that in a video, which you've just said can't be trusted. You can't just cherry-pick the ones YOU consider to be false.

 

 

 

[mishy]

1 minute ago, webtrekker said:

 

But I saw that in a video, which you've just said can't be trusted. You can't just cherry-pick the ones YOU consider to be false.

 

 

 

You're just being awkward.

 

None of the footage can be trusted. September Clues has been mentioned several times in this thread, you sound like you still haven't watched it. It's not just about fake planes. 

 

https://fakeologist.com/september-clues-tour-guide/

 

 

 

 

[zArk]

15 minutes ago, peter said:

answer the bloody question

 

provide the witness statements

[peter]

3 minutes ago, zArk said:

provide the witness statements

You certainly are a wind up,where are your witness statements to back up what you say ,and not utube either ,I want  signed affidavits or it's all fake

[zArk]

Just now, peter said:

You certainly are a wind up,where are your witness statements to back up what you say ,and not utube either ,I want  signed affidavits or it's all fake

you brought it up. You claimed 'all the witnesses', so many witnesses

 

back up your statement

 

 

[peter]

9 minutes ago, zArk said:

you brought it up. You claimed 'all the witnesses', so many witnesses

 

back up your statement

 

 

Stop trying to twist my words  I said vantage points where not all witnesses would have their vision blocked by dust, fear,sirens etc,if you go and check

Edited October 3, 2022 by peter

[zArk]

8 minutes ago, peter said:

Stop trying to twist my words  I said vantage points where not all witnesses would have their vision blocked by dust, fear,sirens etc,if you go and check

 

so who is your witness then?

 

discounting the videos and photos ... there must be a witness statement of the WTC 7 demolition.

i remember an Al Jones reporter on the radio broadcast recorded on Rick Siegals 911 eyewitness

 

Al Jones . .. .honestly... its a big joke.