zArk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) decided not to Edited October 2, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: All three collapsed towers on 911 were controlled demolition…. im just surprised coming from you as i often agree with your views… the entire complex was demolished they demolished the lot in one go, at the same time. then created fake video of the WTC7 collapse and story line PRETENDING it was still standing later in the day the entire days events are a pantomime, a scripted disaster. The best was Mayor Rudy Giuliani playing the hero Bruce Willis stylie Silverstein gets his new plaza, some insurance, wall street gets shut down and silverstein doesnt get knobbled. The city gets poisoned by toxic dust but its those damn arabs in the planes to blame They get a war etc etc Edited October 2, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youknownothingbutyou Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, zArk said: you really dont see the problem with the WTC7 focus? Jane Standley reporting WTC 7 collapse, then silverstein mentioning 'pull it', NIST hosting the video on their online channels, Suddenly you think the media, owner of WTC and authorities are exposing the lies??? No, simply he said”pull it” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: No, simply he said”pull it” it was already destroyed at the same time as WTC1 and2 and the rest of the complex Edited October 2, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, zArk said: it was already destroyed at the same time as WTC1 and2 and the rest of the complex Well you know best,so your proof of that assertion is? Edited October 2, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Main thing is Who Benefits the "need for a new pearl harbour" and PNAC group to go into list of countries Whilst bringing in increasing new control measures on population and fear All actors ready to roll globally then Edited October 2, 2022 by Talorgan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, peter said: Well you know best,so your proof that assertion is? I am making my argument; all videos were made prior to the event and those cameramen and photographers on the day acting ad-hoc had their cameras taken by police everything was controlled. Edited October 2, 2022 by zArk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, zArk said: everything was controlled. Very controlled. But physically impossible for it to have been controlled demolition, literally impossible just going on the times plotted on seismic activity graphs from multiple sources, no explosions registering prior or during, and both towers took 10 seconds and 8 seconds respectively. Free fall of a billiard ball was calculated to be at maximum 9.22 seconds. Good luck explaining that with controlled demolition. Plus the impact of them collapsing was nowhere near even lesser sized buildings. The book is very comprehensive even if you ignore all of the photographic evidence, it still holds up without imagery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, zArk said: I am making my argument; all videos were made prior to the event and those cameramen and photographers on the day acting ad-hoc had their cameras taken by police everything was controlled. So all the witnesses saw the three buildings come down at the same time and every single one of them forgot to mention it. If all the videos were made prior as you say ,how do you know this If you were to make the argument that tree buildings were flat for once I would agree with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheConsultant said: Very controlled. But physically impossible for it to have been controlled demolition, literally impossible just going on the times plotted on seismic activity graphs from multiple sources, no explosions registering prior or during, and both towers took 10 seconds and 8 seconds respectively. Free fall of a billiard ball was calculated to be at maximum 9.22 seconds. Good luck explaining that with controlled demolition. Plus the impact of them collapsing was nowhere near even lesser sized buildings. The book is very comprehensive even if you ignore all of the photographic evidence, it still holds up without imagery. you have no verified untainted evidence. Photos , videos, eyewitnesses are all part of the show. if you wish to accept the seismic data as untainted by politics and preconceived ideas then oke dokey but i apply scrutiny to everything. 1 hour ago, peter said: So all the witnesses saw the three buildings come down at the same time and every single one of them forgot to mention it. If all the videos were made prior as you say ,how do you know this If you were to make the argument that tree buildings were flat for once I would agree with you Noone saw anything through the dust, the panic, the fear, the sirens, the noise. Jane Standley took a stars role in the FAUX 'big mistake' of timing. It was a well planned move to convince everyone WTC 7 was still there in the afternoon. then they double down with the 'pull it' and the video releases but anyways no planes, no crashes into buildings. multiple explosions to get everyone out of the WTC Plaza, clear the demolition zone. Lots of smoke and dust. Lots of police pushing people back. Lots of fear and then they bring them down one by one in succession that morning. no dew required. no alien ships, no magnetism. no thermite. and poor old John Oneil probably on the trail of New York fbi post Emed Salem An explosives job funded, post 1993, by the same group who funded the 1993 failure which was hijacked by the Neo-cons to produce a middle east war. The 1993 group wanted martial law, the neo cons wanted US empire building to be at top of the table of NWO Edited October 2, 2022 by zArk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, zArk said: but i apply scrutiny to everything. Apply scrutiny to FE and it falls apart very quickly as do all of your comments on 9-11 thus far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, zArk said: you have no verified untainted evidence. Photos , videos, eyewitnesses are all part of the show. if you wish to accept the seismic data as untainted by politics and preconceived ideas then oke dokey but i apply scrutiny to everything. Noone saw anything through the dust, the panic, the fear, the sirens, the noise. Jane Standley took a stars role in the FAUX 'big mistake' of timing. It was a well planned move to convince everyone WTC 7 was still there in the afternoon. then they double down with the 'pull it' and the video releases but anyways no planes, no crashes into buildings. multiple explosions to get everyone out of the WTC Plaza, clear the demolition zone. Lots of smoke and dust. Lots of police pushing people back. Lots of fear and then they bring them down one by one in succession that morning. no dew required. no alien ships, no magnetism. no thermite. and poor old John Oneil probably on the trail of New York fbi post Emed Salem An explosives job funded, post 1993, by the same group who funded the 1993 failure which was hijacked by the Neo-cons to produce a middle east war. The 1993 group wanted martial law, the neo cons wanted US empire building to be at top of the table of NWO You keep telling yourself that and let the rest of us get on with it, in case you missed it I asked you how do you know all this( for the second time now) ,I'm trying to be nice zark but christ you make it hard, you seem to apply something to things all right I'll grant you that but it's definitely not scrutiny from where I'm sitting Edited October 2, 2022 by peter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, zArk said: you have no verified untainted evidence. Photos , videos, eyewitnesses are all part of the show. if you wish to accept the seismic data as untainted by politics and preconceived ideas then oke dokey but i apply scrutiny to everything. Noone saw anything through the dust, the panic, the fear, the sirens, the noise. Jane Standley took a stars role in the FAUX 'big mistake' of timing. It was a well planned move to convince everyone WTC 7 was still there in the afternoon. then they double down with the 'pull it' and the video releases but anyways no planes, no crashes into buildings. multiple explosions to get everyone out of the WTC Plaza, clear the demolition zone. Lots of smoke and dust. Lots of police pushing people back. Lots of fear and then they bring them down one by one in succession that morning. no dew required. no alien ships, no magnetism. no thermite. and poor old John Oneil probably on the trail of New York fbi post Emed Salem An explosives job funded, post 1993, by the same group who funded the 1993 failure which was hijacked by the Neo-cons to produce a middle east war. The 1993 group wanted martial law, the neo cons wanted US empire building to be at top of the table of NWO Aha, i see your point of view now and i must confess it is an attractive idea, but and there is always a big but in there somewhere, how do you account for the cars, vans, trucks and coaches that mysteriously seemed to have melted in the surrounding areas? Addendum, were the falling bodies cgi or were they dummies, if they were dummies then someone had to be throwing them out of the windows? Edited October 2, 2022 by sock muppet edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youknownothingbutyou Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 7 hours ago, zArk said: it was already destroyed at the same time as WTC1 and2 and the rest of the complex Hein? im not following. Wtc7 was pulled many hours after the twin tower were collapsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: Hein? im not following. Wtc7 was pulled many hours after the twin tower were collapsed I think what @zArk is saying, the news report by the BullshitBrothersClub was set up before the event with the building still in the background, and then played back on the day of the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 6 hours ago, sock muppet said: I think what @zArk is saying, the news report by the BullshitBrothersClub was set up before the event with the building still in the background, and then played back on the day of the scene. There is only one problem there would be so many witnesses in other high rise buildings not to mention all the people on the ground. Zark said the sight of these witnesses was obscured by dust and fear,maybe for some but not for everyone, to obscure every single vantage point around that area would be an impossibility,therefore zark's assertion makes no sense in the realms of probability or possibility. Ah the scrutiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, peter said: There is only one problem there would be so many witnesses in other high rise buildings not to mention all the people on the ground. Zark said the sight of these witnesses was obscured by dust and fear,maybe for some but not for everyone, to obscure every single vantage point around that area would be an impossibility,therefore zark's assertion makes no sense in the realms of probability or possibility. Ah the scrutiny I can’t prove it but I’m think I remember the report for building 7 coming out early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Bombadil said: can’t prove it but I’m think I remember the report for building 7 coming out early. yes the BBC reported the building had fallen 20 or so min before it actually did during a live coverage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 15 hours ago, sock muppet said: Aha, i see your point of view now and i must confess it is an attractive idea, but and there is always a big but in there somewhere, how do you account for the cars, vans, trucks and coaches that mysteriously seemed to have melted in the surrounding areas? Addendum, were the falling bodies cgi or were they dummies, if they were dummies then someone had to be throwing them out of the windows? well thats another of Judys misinterpretations because she took the photos at face value and didnt consider cars were moved and lined up on FDR, debris fell on cars, burning debris fell on cars the fire truck engine was in a different position etc etc how does a 'jumper' support Judy Woods DEW? I dont see how she is acquiring 'jumpers' and using it to support DEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: Hein? im not following. Wtc7 was pulled many hours after the twin tower were collapsed thats where i differ, WTC 7 is the red herring. It was destroyed in the morning, as part of the complex demolition. The lie was then enacted that WTC 7 was still standing by Jane Standley on BBC, Silverstein 'pull it' comment, etc etc The videos are all fake. They controlled everything that day. They created a lie within a lie and produced a 9/11 issue that they can manage and use to direct 'post-operation' criticism. Alex Jones completely wafted away any no-plane chatter, paid off the Loose Change lads to forget the no-plane issue, silenced radio show callers and then promoted massively WTC 7. Everyone talks about WTC 7, and tbh it worked. It allowed time to dissolve 9/11 discussion and because it was THE most important issue for truth movement groups it degraded no-plane chatter. Edited October 3, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 hours ago, sock muppet said: I think what @zArk is saying, the news report by the BullshitBrothersClub was set up before the event with the building still in the background, and then played back on the day of the scene. the entire scene was CGI composite. She was greenscreened and they just played the days created images. the plane images were fake the collapse images were fake the helicopter footage was fake the entire day is a myth. The entire day was scripted. They turned New York into a film set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 hours ago, peter said: There is only one problem there would be so many witnesses in other high rise buildings not to mention all the people on the ground. Zark said the sight of these witnesses was obscured by dust and fear,maybe for some but not for everyone, to obscure every single vantage point around that area would be an impossibility,therefore zark's assertion makes no sense in the realms of probability or possibility. Ah the scrutiny so many witnesses .... so many.... the scrutiny find me the so many witnesses who say they saw the WTC 7 demolition in the real, not on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 hours ago, peter said: yes the BBC reported the building had fallen 20 or so min before it actually did during a live coverage you cant honestly believe this is 'live' images? i admit it is enticing to have the 'gotcha' moment, but if you step back and relook at the pictures and the scene you will come round to admitting to yourself "i have been duped into believing a lie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 hours ago, peter said: yes the BBC reported the building had fallen 20 or so min before it actually did during a live coverage Thanks Peter. I was starting to think I’d lost the plot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) the desired outcome was to generate conspiracy theories based upon myth and make them palatable for the general public. Among many reasons for this was to retain the notion that the day was chaotic , uncontrolled and authentic with the stalwart being the media images as the bedrock for society to cling to no plane exposure collapses the image/tv trust WTC7 entrenches image/tv trust Edited October 3, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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