Jooton Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 This really worries me, am not sure with out the right to bare arms what we could do i literally feel like fleeing into the woods with my family. how are other people coping with this and are there any other plans to rally against this before it gets any worse? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 There are ways to prepare . They will not come out strait away and make it compulsory .... When it first becomes available half the population will be queuing up ... then after another few months they will come after the kids , if you resist this they could be taken , you will be arrest for child neglect . Next you will have to show the (vaccine) mark to buy (or sell) they will scan people on entering supermarkets , they won't force you to take the jab , just not let you in . Next checkpoints on the road , no travel without the mark .. So I don't believe they will be knocking on your door , coming after you , that's too much work... they wait till you come to them , we all need food .... So you can position yourself now for more effective survival ... relocate now somewhere very remote , get in food supplies .... I expect by the time the vaccine is ready other factors will have kicked in . Economic collapse , rocketing food prices , looting of supermarkets , collapse of food supply chain , government taking control of food.... So it comes down to being off grid in a remote area , and FOOD ... that's all 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 there wont be forced vax in the UK 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Jooton said: This really worries me, am not sure with out the right to bare arms what we could do i literally feel like fleeing into the woods with my family. how are other people coping with this and are there any other plans to rally against this before it gets any worse? British armed forces attest allegiance by oath or affirmation. Attestation by oath implies recognition of natural rights, and these rights are unaffected by legislation of human government. The coronation oath also implies recognition of natural rights, so their attestation by affirmation has the same effect because of the allegiance to the armed forces sovereign. "Those rights then which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." ~ Blackstone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 18 hours ago, oz93666 said: There are ways to prepare . They will not come out strait away and make it compulsory .... When it first becomes available half the population will be queuing up ... then after another few months they will come after the kids , if you resist this they could be taken , you will be arrest for child neglect . Next you will have to show the (vaccine) mark to buy (or sell) they will scan people on entering supermarkets , they won't force you to take the jab , just not let you in . Next checkpoints on the road , no travel without the mark .. So I don't believe they will be knocking on your door , coming after you , that's too much work... they wait till you come to them , we all need food .... So you can position yourself now for more effective survival ... relocate now somewhere very remote , get in food supplies .... I expect by the time the vaccine is ready other factors will have kicked in . Economic collapse , rocketing food prices , looting of supermarkets , collapse of food supply chain , government taking control of food.... So it comes down to being off grid in a remote area , and FOOD ... that's all thank you for your comment, relocating unfortunately is not possible for me but stocking up on food an hiding in my home is, I guess that is what i will have to do unless there is a march to stop this that I am able to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 17 hours ago, theo102 said: British armed forces attest allegiance by oath or affirmation. Attestation by oath implies recognition of natural rights, and these rights are unaffected by legislation of human government. The coronation oath also implies recognition of natural rights, so their attestation by affirmation has the same effect because of the allegiance to the armed forces sovereign. "Those rights then which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." ~ Blackstone. I hope you are correct, with everything I am seeing I just cant be sure they would not try and use the army to do this i mean why even mention using them to control us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Jack said: there wont be forced vax in the UK How can you be sure of that? i hope you are correct but your statement does nothing to change my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Jooton said: How can you be sure of that? i hope you are correct but your statement does nothing to change my thoughts By listening to lawyers and nurses. There was a webinar and the lawyers scoffed at the idea Ive put it at the right place, but its a good video for some perspective Just like the flu vaccine, they're not forced. However I have no idea if countries decide on vaccinations for entry, or you'll need them for school etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jooton said: I hope you are correct, with everything I am seeing I just cant be sure they would not try and use the army to do this i mean why even mention using them to control us? Of course they would try, the point is that if you understand the power dynamic then you're more likely to be effective in your efforts to resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Jack said: By listening to lawyers and nurses. There was a webinar and the lawyers scoffed at the idea Ive put it at the right place, but its a good video for some perspective Just like the flu vaccine, they're not forced. However I have no idea if countries decide on vaccinations for entry, or you'll need them for school etc. thank you for this video it does make me feel better about the issue, still do not trust this government though they seem to be working to bring about technocratic communism guided by china and the deep state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, theo102 said: Of course they would try, the point is that if you understand the power dynamic then you're more likely to be effective in your efforts to resist. am sure if everyone stood united it would not be an issue, it is just the amount of brain washed people there are out there i keep day dreaming of people chasing me down like invasion of the body snatchers lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jack said: By listening to lawyers and nurses. There was a webinar and the lawyers scoffed at the idea Ive put it at the right place, but its a good video for some perspective Just like the flu vaccine, they're not forced. However I have no idea if countries decide on vaccinations for entry, or you'll need them for school etc. Edited October 1, 2020 by Jooton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Jack said: By listening to lawyers and nurses. There was a webinar and the lawyers scoffed at the idea Ive put it at the right place, but its a good video for some perspective Just like the flu vaccine, they're not forced. However I have no idea if countries decide on vaccinations for entry, or you'll need them for school etc. jack sorry for the many responses, a lot has changed since this video was made are you sure the same rules apply even now? i watch a guy in parliament pretty much begging for stronger measures and the army to be used for vax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Jooton said: this was at the start of the COVID, so many people were very cautious about talking about it. I guess we all look at it in different areas, Lord Sumption talks about it, sadly they only did a few videos, which is a shame because they gave a new perception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Jooton said: jack sorry for the many responses, a lot has changed since this video was made are you sure the same rules apply even now? i watch a guy in parliament pretty much begging for stronger measures and the army to be used for vax yes the same rule applies, i think many people will want the vaccine so they may want a fast roll out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, theo102 said: Of course they would try, the point is that if you understand the power dynamic then you're more likely to be effective in your efforts to resist. so they can use the shock method or the squeeze method... They can make life so difficult for people who have refused the vaccine that they essentially squeeze them until they break, give in and accept the vaccine in order to be able to access the goods and services required for life Alternatively they can use the shock method which is to create an actual crisis for example they could spike the flu vaccines that they will push out around december time with something that will make people sick. That sickness they would of course blame on 'covid' and then declare a national emergency and say that they HAD to force vaccinate the public in order to protect them But yeah that os the big question now: how are they going to overcome the fact that large numbers of people, as things currently stand, are not going to accept the vaccine. They're going to have to do something pretty significant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Macnamara said: so they can use the shock method or the squeeze method... They can make life so difficult for people who have refused the vaccine that they essentially squeeze them until they break, give in and accept the vaccine in order to be able to access the goods and services required for life Alternatively they can use the shock method which is to create an actual crisis for example they could spike the flu vaccines that they will push out around december time with something that will make people sick. That sickness they would of course blame on 'covid' and then declare a national emergency and say that they HAD to force vaccinate the public in order to protect them But yeah that os the big question now: how are they going to overcome the fact that large numbers of people, as things currently stand, are not going to accept the vaccine. They're going to have to do something pretty significant yea this is part of what i fear, what are your plans to get through such tactics all i have done is gotten 2 months ahead with my food stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jack said: yes the same rule applies, i think many people will want the vaccine so they may want a fast roll out. what will you do if they make it so you cannot even enter a super market with out a mobile phone digital vax cert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jooton Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 honestly guys if i could convince my family to come with me i would be living in a tent in the woods lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Jooton said: am sure if everyone stood united it would not be an issue, it is just the amount of brain washed people there are out there i keep day dreaming of people chasing me down like invasion of the body snatchers lmfao I guess the trick is to know what you can change and what you can't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Jooton said: what will you do if they make it so you cannot even enter a super market with out a mobile phone digital vax cert? https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3846 i dont think that would be the case,not into the near by furure though- there's probably too much risk involved. https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3757? Edited October 1, 2020 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the big question now: how are they going to overcome the fact that large numbers of people, as things currently stand, are not going to accept the vaccine. Maybe it's beyond their power to do that. You can only spin the facts so far before it becomes obvious that you're being disingenuous. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jv06mzwEnHl0/ Edited October 1, 2020 by theo102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAITH-WALKER Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 3:29 PM, Jooton said: This really worries me, am not sure with out the right to bare arms what we could do i literally feel like fleeing into the woods with my family. how are other people coping with this and are there any other plans to rally against this before it gets any worse? I don’t think at this point we can change what is coming but we can take measures to keep our family safe. Learn all you can and apply what you feel led too. when thinking about food supplies remember non perishables and medical supplies. plans possible safe places to take your family for refugee and safety. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. find some means of communication remember these phones are all traceable and that will be the first thing I will dispose of personally myself. They will use what you care about and need most to force you to conform. Your children, warmth, hunger and fear. Prepare sooner than later and be sure to find a meeting location if you and your family are not together at the time you feel it’s necessary to go. If your children are in school I suggest you read into the cdc guidelines granting schools and other organizations special circumstance rights I myself have done this and so my children home school at this moment because it’s the safest way I chose to protect them. I thank many who share valuable information to help one another in these perilous times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) On 10/1/2020 at 5:32 AM, theo102 said: British armed forces attest allegiance by oath or affirmation. Attestation by oath implies recognition of natural rights, and these rights are unaffected by legislation of human government. The coronation oath also implies recognition of natural rights, so their attestation by affirmation has the same effect because of the allegiance to the armed forces sovereign. "Those rights then which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." ~ Blackstone. But who will enforce these rights? The Queen? Parliament? The TV sodden masses? No one will enforce these rights. Parliament are all self serving Mason scum, most of them are probably on video tape (yeah I know, I'm still stuck in the 80's) doing something they shouldn't to someone they shouldn't. The Queen is a witless baffled moron with as much personal agency as a squashed marrow. And the TV sodden masses.... the most activity they are capable of is lifting their butt cheeks off the sofa to fart (but I might just be projecting on that one to be honest). But hey..... I sure hope I'm wrong and someone will save us and protect our rights..... But.................And I like dem big BUTTS I just don't see it going on reality's current track record.... Edited October 4, 2020 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Truthspoon said: But who will enforce these rights? Elohim. In practical terms this means that if you want your natural rights to be recognised then you can't make mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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