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On 12/22/2023 at 7:52 PM, Macnamara said:

Our celtic ancestors used to revere their warrior class because they were the shield of their people. If the warriors failed to defend their people their lands would be over-run, their women raped, their children enslaved and their property stolen so the role of the warriors was well understood as they existed to prevent calamity befalling their people.

 

Knowing this we can reconsider why the sabbatean's woke agenda is targetting men and especially white men.

 

On 7/21/2023 at 12:04 PM, Macnamara said:

I see it more as a kind of hegelian dialectic where the cabal control both NATO and the eurasian side and that they are playing both ends against the middle. So the 'ends' would be the militaries of those nations and the middle would be the regular russian and ukrainian people who are being thrown into the meat grinder. I want the war to end not because i support putin or the british government but because i think those parties are conspiring to wipe out some of the toughest elements of masculinity in europe so that wider european society looses its shield against globalist tyranny which is to say its menfolk who could otherwise put up resistance to the globalist conspiracy and also raise boys to be MEN.

 

you seem to be struggling , Neil, with understanding why on one hand the british freemasonic establishment would convince the british youth to hate britain, through cultural marxism (eg critical theory, critical race theory etc) but on the other hand they would then warn us of a future conscription where all males under the age of 60 will be 'mobilised' to fight for britain against russia but in the light of my posts above about the removal of men as the shield of society and about how the ukrainian men have just been slaughtered in a meatgrinder, it makes total sense that the british elite would want to send british men off to die. They want us dead, they want us gone, THEY WANT US REMOVED FROM THE CHESSBOARD. They are waging war against us.

 

Those covid jabs were a bioweapon, the purpose of which was to KILL. They want us gone and they are flooding in migrants to replace us because if you remove the native population by various means and then replace them with people from all over the world the idea of britain as a nation and of a cohesive british identity and culture is gone to be replaced by a mishmash of people with no coherent identity or sense of place who will then just be citizens on a global technocratic plantation.

 

These people are trying to destroy a nation and its people which is why i accuse them of TREASON.

Neil Oliver: They want us to fight & die…for what?!?

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

what are these occult groups doing? They are communicating with entities

Exactly yes it seems these secret groups meeting in caves etc and channelling entities for generations , goodness knows for how long ?

But as Julian Huxley of UNESCO said we need to have 2 opposite philosophy's of life opposing each other ,capatilism/ communism ,East /West

 for the moment to create dialectical movement change , revolution as he said now possible to complete change they are after .

So cold war enabled technology satellites, computers etc for world government all seeing ,eye of Ra etc

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Talorgan said:

Exactly yes it seems these secret groups meeting in caves etc and channelling entities for generations , goodness knows for how long ?

But as Jillian Huxley of UNESCO said we need to have 2 opposite philosophy's of life opposing each other ,capatilism/ communism ,East /West

 for the moment to create dialectical movement change , revolution as he said now possible to complete change they are after .

So cold war enabled technology satellites, computers etc for world government all seeing ,eye of Ra etc

 

yes that is how they roll....how deep is that dialectical con game? well i'm of the opinion that it runs so deep that they control both the 'eurasian' side of china and russia AND the davos elite side of 'the west'.

 

those two puppets will then have a phoney war in which we the people are the cannon fodder.

 

I think a lot of people can now grasp that the same globalist agendas get advanced regardless of whether the tories or labour get in so i think many people are coming to the acceptance of a kind of dialectical congame at that level but yeah i suspect it goes much deeper than that even. I don't think putin is some white knight riding in on the back of the chinese dragon to save us all from the western elites......they are playing both ends against the middle and we need to avoid getting played like the ukrainians have been.

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15 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes that is how they roll....how deep is that dialectical con game? well i'm of the opinion that it runs so deep that they control both the 'eurasian' side of china and russia AND the davos elite side of 'the west'.

 

those two puppets will then have a phoney war in which we the people are the cannon fodder.

 

I think a lot of people can now grasp that the same globalist agendas get advanced regardless of whether the tories or labour get in so i think many people are coming to the acceptance of a kind of dialectical congame at that level but yeah i suspect it goes much deeper than that even. I don't think putin is some white knight riding in on the back of the chinese dragon to save us all from the western elites......they are playing both ends against the middle and we need to avoid getting played like the ukrainians have been.

Yes whereas the cold war was mostly it seems a big con to advance the agenda 

Now it is back again with all waste of money and resources and dangers making us more a target again deploying more missiles here .

 

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7 minutes ago, Talorgan said:

Yes whereas the cold war was mostly it seems a big con to advance the agenda 

Now it is back again with all waste of money and resources and dangers making us more a target again.

 

professor sutton was kicked out of the montpelerin society for writing a paper in which he showed the evidence that the west was building up the soviet war machine. Looked at through the prism of the narrative of the cold war offered to the public by the corporate media that would make no sense and yet the evidence proved it to be so

 

if he were alive today i'm sure he would write a similar paper about how the west has built china into the powerhouse that it is today

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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

professor sutton was kicked out of the montpelerin society for writing a paper in which he showed the evidence that the west was building up the soviet war machine. Looked at through the prism of the narrative of the cold war offered to the public by the corporate media that would make no sense and yet the evidence proved it to be so

 

if he were alive today i'm sure he would write a similar paper about how the west has built china into the powerhouse that it is today

Yes people like Maurice Strong talking expertise  out to China paid for by west and east / west scientists openly meeting annually throughout cold war etc

And Sutton showed collaborators in ww1 / ww2 etc wall St and rise of Hitler & Bolshevik Revolution 

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Yes people like Maurice Strong talking expertise  out to China paid for by west and east / west scientists openly meeting annually throughout cold war etc

 

the chinese didn't invent communism. The sabbatean-jews did

 

then sabbatean jews like henry kissinger and david rockefeller celebrated what china had become under mao:

quote-whatever-the-price-of-the-chinese-

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

then sabbatean jews like henry kissinger and david rockefeller celebrated what china had become under mao:

 

oh look, there is henry kissinger in the middle.....good pals with putin, he was.

 

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35 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the chinese didn't invent communism. The sabbatean-jews did

 

then sabbatean jews like henry kissinger and david rockefeller celebrated what china had become under mao:

quote-whatever-the-price-of-the-chinese-

 

Legacy eg https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/30/henry-kissinger-cambodia-bombing-war/

 

U.S. bombing campaign with contributing to the rise of the totalitarian Khmer Rouge regime, & atrocities during its four-year rule, including the genocide of minority group

 

https://larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_kissinger_food.html

 food as a weapon 

 

And set up young global leaders and all the influencers 

 

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@Macnamaraok thanks.

 

I think we can see cultural Marxism in our culture today. That is undeniable. I think what is less clear is that their are a group of folks called Sabbatean Jews who are controlling everything. 

 

Seems to me money lenders have and will always run the show, followed by the military industrial complex and large corporations. No doubt there's secret societies going on underneath. But not sure they all roll up into Sabbatean Jews category....?

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10 hours ago, Mr H said:

@Macnamara how do the other secret societies that we know for sure fit into this model? People like skull and bones etc. are they Sabbatean Jews?

 

And do we have an example of a Sabbatean Jew living today? 

 

instead of asking the same questions over and over again, perhaps you could read your way through this thread as it has valuable information on this topic

 

the sabbateans are LURIANIC KABBALISTS which is a SUPREMACIST doctrine. I've said this to you a few times now so take a moment and absorb that. Then understand that chabad lubavitch are also LURIANIC KABBALISTS

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oh imagine my surprise when i read this article!

President Of Canadian LGBT Organization Arrested On Child Sex Abuse Charges

January 16, 2024

LGBT activist Sean Gravells, President of the Canadian LGBT organization North Peace Pride Society, has been arrested on child sex abuse charges.

It appears that yet another activist who supports LGBT interaction with children has been observed engaging in much more than just community service. Prominent LGBT activist Sean Gravells, head of the North Peace Pride Society, a Canadian LGBT pride organization, was arrested on several charges, including possessing and distributing child pornography and sexually exploiting a minor for sex.

https://greatgameindia.com/president-of-canadian-lgbt-organization-arrested-on-child-sex-abuse-charges/

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34 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

instead of asking the same questions over and over again, perhaps you could read your way through this thread as it has valuable information on this topic

 

the sabbateans are LURIANIC KABBALISTS which is a SUPREMACIST doctrine. I've said this to you a few times now so take a moment and absorb that. Then understand that chabad lubavitch are also LURIANIC KABBALISTS

I haven't asked the same questions.

 

But perhaps you already did give answer will review. 

 

Sometimes it's difficult to read all your posts due to volume, lengthy cut and paste jobs and usually from limited sources, such as this mark passio dude you seem to be involved with.....

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Sometimes it's difficult to read all your posts due to volume, lengthy cut and paste jobs and usually from limited sources, such as this mark passio dude you seem to be involved with.....

 

if i have cut and pasted something it is information that you can look at to see that what i'm saying is true for example lynn de rothschild pushing 'stakeholder capitalism'

 

i'm not 'involved' with mark passio but you do seem to be constantly probing for more information about me which i find very suspect. mark passio is an ex satanic priest of the levayan church so he has some insight into that area

 

if you are interested in the truth as you claim, why don't you bring a little humility and actually learn something from all the information being shared instead of bringing this constant attitude to the situation?

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Lurianic Kabbalah
It was in Bohemia, therefore, that the most important modern development
in Kabbalah took root, known as the New Kabbalah, derived by Isaac Luria.
Luria’s revolutionary knew conception of Zionism and the purpose of the
Jewish people in history would become the fundamental creed of two important
new heresies that would go on to become the basis of all Illuminati intrigues.
These were, first, the heresy in the seventeenth century, of the false messiah
Shabbetai Zevi, and in the following century, that developed by one of his
successors, Jacob Frank.
Luria’s novel interpretations essentially fired new Messianic hopes,
which were accepted positively by Jews who recently endured the expulsion
from Spain. As in other parts of Europe, violent persecution had been growing
in Spain and Portugal, where in 1391, hundreds of thousands of Jews had
been forced to convert to the Catholicism. Publicly, the Jewish converts,
known as Marranos, were Christians, but secretly they continued to practice
Judaism, including following the Kabbalah. After 1540, many Marranos fled
to England, Holland, France, the Ottoman Empire, Brazil and other places in
South and Central America. These Marranos maintained strong family ties
and became influential where they lived.
In Spain, during the fifteenth century, the Marranos “crypto-Jews”,
founded the Christian heresy of the Alumbrados. The Illuminati Order was
not invented by Adam Weishaupt, but was rather renewed and reformed.6 The
Alumbrados, or Illuminati, claimed to have direct intercourse with God. All

external worship, they declared, is superfluous, and sin impossible in this state
of complete union with Him. Therefore, like all Gnostics before them, they
believed carnal desires could be indulged in, and other sinful actions committed
freely without corrupting the soul.
As young man, Ignatius of Loyola became a member of the
Allumbrados, though, as a cover for his activities, he became very active as a
Roman Catholic. Ignatius of Loyola was born in 1491, from wealthy Marranos
parents a year before the expulsion of the Jews from Spain.7 Loyola moved
to Rome where he founded the Order of Jesus, known as the infamous Jesuits,
which was approved by Pope Paul III in 1540. In setting up the Jesuit order,
Loyola devised an elaborate spy system, so that no one in the order was safe.
If there was any opposition, death was meted out swiftly. The Jesuit order not
only became a destructive arm of the Roman Catholic Church, but developed
into a secret intelligence service.
Ultimately, the Jesuits would follow the same conspiratorial methods
as the Ismailis, to undermine the religion they were purportedly representing,
and for indoctrinating dupes into their subversive mission, as the following,
taken from the secret oath of the Jesuits, demonstrates:


You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred
between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to
deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions
and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating
the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides
with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be
engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be
connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions
fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justiies the means.


Rabbi Isaac Luria was a faithful follower of Ignatius Loyola.8 Luria’s
father, a member of an Ashkenazi family from Poland and Germany, emigrated
to Jerusalem. Following his father’s death, as a child, Luria was taken to Egypt.
Egypt has always harboured an important Jewish community, and of Gnostic
speculation, from Hellenistic times, to the Ismailis of the Fatimids, as it was in
Luria’s time. It was for this reason that Egypt would figure so prominently as
one of the focal points of Illuminati, even into the twentieth century, with the
creation of Islamic fundamentalism.
In Egypt, here he became versed in rabbinic studies, engaged in
commerce, and eventually concentrated on study of the Zohar, the central work
of the Medieval Kabbalah. In 1570, he went to Safed in Galilee, where he
studied under Moses ben Jacob Cordovero, the greatest Kabbalist of the time,
and developed his own Kabbalistic system. Although he wrote few works,
Luria’s doctrines were recorded by his pupil Hayyim Vital, who presented
them in a large posthumous collection. Because of this work, Lurianic
Kabbalah became the new thought that influenced all Jewish mysticism after
him, competing with the Kabbalah of Cordovero.
Luria initiated a new interpretation of the role of the Kabbalah in
preparation for the arrival of the messiah. In Luria’s system, all being is said
to have been in exile, that is, separated from God, since the very beginning
of creation, and the task of restoring everything to its proper order is the
specific role of the Jewish people. The final redemption, however, cannot be
achieved merely through the advent of the Messiah, but must be brought about
historically, through a long chain of actions that prepare the way. Essentially,
the important notion that was transmitted to the Kabbalists was this, that they
must not merely await the fulfillment of prophecy with regards to the coming
of the Messiah, and the restoration of the Jewish people in the Promised Land.
Rather, they ought to work actively to prepare for his appearance. First, this
meant manipulating the course of fate through the use of magic, and finally,
of preparing the necessary political and moral circumstances to receive his
coming, that is, a New World Order

-'Terrorism and the Illuminati' - David Livingston

 

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The Shabbateans


Lurianic Kabbalah, also known as the New Kabbalah, the most pivotal
formulation in the modern history of that occult branch of Judaism, and its
prescriptions for actively seeking the fulfillment of prophecy, became the core
doctrine of the modern occult underground. Therefore, Freemasonry, which
it too was forged from Lurianic Kabbalah, and founded in the Rosicrucian
conspiracy that united the divergent heritage of the House of Guelph and the
House of Stuart, was aligned, in the eighteenth century, with the most central
development of this school, when it was infiltrated by the Illuminati. The goal
of this organization was to fulfill the ancient dream of Plato, of establishing a
New World Order, governed by an elite instructed in the occult.
Therefore, the question of Jewish involvement or responsibility for the
scheming of the Illuminati has since plagued investigators with accusations of
anti-Semitism. However, Rabbi Marvin Antelman has recently resolved the
issue by exposing that the Illuminati was operated by a fringe Gnostic group of
Judaism, known as the Shabbateans, incepted by the false-messiah, Shabbetai
Zevi. Despite the movement’s growing influence over the coming centuries,
their malevolent designs were largely kept secret from the rest of the Jewish
community, and were often inimical to it. And, this ignorance would continue
to be fostered by the Illuminati, who would to barricade themselves behind
these same accusations of anti-Semitism.
According to Gershom Scholem, “...Lurianic Kabbalah became a
dominant factor only about 1630-40 and the ideology of the Shabbatean
movement was closely connected with this development.”1 As Scholem
explained, the Shabbatean movement was “the largest and most momentous
messianic movement in Jewish History” since the destruction of Jerusalem.
In 1666, Shabbetai Zevi, followed by his prophet, Nathan of Gaza,
proclaimed himself the promised Messiah of Judaism. Zevi succeeded in
rallying a large following, extending to nearly half of the Jewish population
of the world at the time, including the Jews of Palestine, Egypt, and Eastern
and Western Europe. The movement was shattered however, when, forced
by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire to choose martyrdom or conversion,
Zevi chose conversion to Islam.
Nathan became a Roman Catholic, and the movement largely
collapsed, though some followed Zevi into conversion, and there is, down to
the present time, an Islamic sect in Turkey that follows his teachings, known
as the “Doenmeh”, who profess Islam outwardly, while adhering to a mixture
of traditional and heretical Judaism in secret.
The Shabbatean heresy, which for some time survived in secret
circles akin to something of a Masonic organization, eventually reasserted
itself through the sect known as the Frankists.2 They were also known as the
Zoharists, or the Illuminated, or, in Podolia, from where they originated, as
Shabbatean Zevists. The leader of the Zoharists was Jacob Frank, originally
named Jacob Leibowicz, who regarded himself as a reincarnation of Zevi.
Reviving the vilest Gnostic traditions of the Kabbalah, the Frankists
were bent not only on the eradication and humiliation of the majority of the
Jewish community who refused to accept their deviations, and therefore of
Judaism as a whole, but of all religions, and exploited the Zionist ideals to
disguise their quest for world domination. The Frankists believed that in the
Messianic age, the laws of the Torah were no longer valid, and all that had been
formerly prohibited was now permitted, or even mandatory. This included
all the prohibited sexual unions and incest. Therefore, their practices, which
included orgiastic, sexually promiscuous rites, led the Jewish community to
brand them as heretics.
Frank preached a “Religious Myth of Nihilism”. Ultimately, Frank
taught his followers that the overthrow and destruction of society was the only
thing that could save mankind. Despite the fact that they were all outwardly
religious, the Frankists sought “the annihilation of every religion and positive
system of belief,” and they dreamed “of a general revolution that would sweep
away the past in a single stroke so that the world might be rebuilt.” Of the
revolutionary philosophy of the Frankists, Gershom Scholem wrote in Kabbalah
and Its Symbolism: “for Frank, anarchic destruction represented all the Luciferian
radiance, all the positive tones and overtones, of the word Life.”3
Jacob Frank promulgated his nihilistic religion as “the way to Esau”
or “Edom”. According to Frank, all the great patriarchs had sought the way to
God, but without success. It was therefore necessary to find a new way, which
leads to “true life”, which Esau or Edom symbolize as liberation, or man’s
nature unbridled by law. In order to achieve this goal, it would be necessary to
abolish all laws, but to be accomplished in secret. As the “true believers” had
already passed through Judaism and Islam, they ought now also to assume the
“religion of Edom”, or Christianity, outwardly, using it to conceal the real core
of their belief of Jacob Frank as the true Messiah and the living God.
In 1759, members of the sect converted to Christianity, but nevertheless
persisted in heretical ways. As a result, the Inquisition imprisoned Frank in
1760. Freed by the conquering Russians in 1773 though, he eventually settled
in Offenbach, Germany, dubbing himself baron. In the period between Frank’s
conversion to his death, the community of his followers strengthened their position
not only in Poland, but also in the Austrian territories of Moravia and Bohemia.
The movement became active in Masonic organizations and began to combine
revolutionary Kabbalistic ideas with the philosophical ideals of the Enlightenment.
Among Frank’s followers, according to Scholem, some were accepted into the
administration and aristocracy of the Habsburgs, “but they preserved a few Frankist
traditions and customs, so that a stratum was created in which the boundaries
between Judaism and Christianity became blurred, irrespective of whether the
members had converted or retained their links with Judaism.”4
Many Frankist families kept a miniature of Frank’s daughter Eva, who
assumed leadership after him, to be sent to the most prominent households. As
describes Gershom Scholem:
The sect’s exclusive organization continued to survive in this period through
agents who went from place to place, through secret gatherings and separate
religious rites, and through dissemination of a speciically Frankist literature.
The “believers” endeavored to marry only among themselves, and a wide
network of inter-family relationships was created among the Frankists, even
among those who had remained within the Jewish fold. Later Frankism was to a
large extent the religion of families who had given their children the appropriate
education. The Frankists of Germany, Bohemia, and Moravia usually held
secret gatherings in Carlsbad in summer round about the ninth of Av. 5
The ninth of the month of Av was not only the supposed date of birth
of Shabbetai Zevi, but is also known in Judaism as Tisha B’av. In Judaism,
Tisha B’Av is the darkest day on the Jewish calendar, commemorating the
destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, first by the Babylonians, and secondly
by the Romans. Also, the ninth of Av, 1492, was the day the Jews were
expelled from Spain. The day is observed by Jews as a day of fasting and
prayer. However, the Frankists celebrated the day with revel and orgies.
-Terrorism and the Illuminati by David Livingston

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12 hours ago, Mr H said:

@Macnamaraok thanks.

 

I think we can see cultural Marxism in our culture today. That is undeniable. I think what is less clear is that their are a group of folks called Sabbatean Jews who are controlling everything. 

 

Seems to me money lenders have and will always run the show, followed by the military industrial complex and large corporations. No doubt there's secret societies going on underneath. But not sure they all roll up into Sabbatean Jews category....?

 

Not 'Sabbatean Jews', just 'Sabbateans'

 

Most just coincidentally happen to be 'Jewish' as well. And that works out nice for them because if anybody ever dares criticise or point out what they're up to, they can immediately get shut down by cries of 'anti-semitism'.

 

I'm pretty sure we'll also find Sabbateans who 'masquerade' as Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Roman Catholics or even atheists.

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4 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Not 'Sabbatean Jews', just 'Sabbateans'

 

Most just coincidentally happen to be 'Jewish' as well. And that works out nice for them because if anybody ever dares criticise or point out what they're up to, they can immediately get shut down by cries of 'anti-semitism'.

 

I'm pretty sure we'll also find Sabbateans who 'masquerade' as Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Roman Catholics or even atheists.

That makes sense.

 

Do we have examples of who is Sabbatean? And how we know they are?

 

On the face of things it appears that the US is currently running the show, with the federal reserve and the military industrial complex yielding the most power. Are the people running these entities Sabbatean?

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41 minutes ago, Mr H said:

That makes sense.

 

Do we have examples of who is Sabbatean? And how we know they are?

 

On the face of things it appears that the US is currently running the show, with the federal reserve and the military industrial complex yielding the most power. Are the people running these entities Sabbatean?

 

That's the quandary. No-one in their right mind would ever admit to being a Sabbatean, so all we can do is rely on other researcher's diligent work, or draw our own conclusions.

 

It would appear that the US is 'running the show' on the surface, but it's president and government are merely puppets of what David Icke used to call this 'hidden hand'.

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

I have not asked you for any personal information nor am I interested, which is different from some of the bizarre accusations you sent my way of a personal nature when I was mod.....

 

you were the one who attacked me when we were mods

 

in another thread you are trying to tell people the american economy is doing great, in another thread you accused me of 'hate' because i am speaking about the same sabbateans as david icke and in this thread you are now trying to pour cold water on what i'm saying without actually going through the information i'm sharing. what's your deal here?

 

you know what? don't bother answering that. Just stop gumming up my thread

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On 12/18/2023 at 8:21 PM, Macnamara said:

preparations being made for war with iran? Will we see some act used as a provocation which will be used by the US as a justification for war against iran?

U.S. Senators Push For Direct Military Response Against Iran After U.S. Soldiers Killed In Terror Attack

 

U.S. Senators pushed for direct military action against Iran on Sunday after news broke that at least three U.S. soldiers were killed in a terrorist attack carried out by an Iranian-backed terrorist group.

U.S. Central Command said in a statement that “three U.S. service members were killed and 25 injured from a one-way attack [Unmanned Aircraft System] that impacted at a base in northeast Jordan, near the Syria border.” Subsequent reporting said that more than 30 U.S. soldiers were injured in the attack.

President Joe Biden said in a separate statement that the attack was “carried out by radical Iran-backed militant groups operating in Syria and Iraq.”

There was a bipartisan show of support among U.S. senators for the Biden administration to hold Iran directly responsible.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was the most direct in stating what he believes the U.S. should do in response.

“I am calling on the Biden Administration to strike targets of significance inside Iran, not only as reprisal for the killing of our forces, but as deterrence against future aggression,” he said, later adding: “Hit Iran now. Hit them hard.”

https://www.womensystems.com/2024/01/us-senators-push-for-direct-military.html

John Bolton calls for ‘disproportionate’ strikes inside Iran after US deaths

by Lauren Sforza - 01/29/24 10:45 AM ET

Former national security adviser John Bolton called for “disproportionate” strikes inside Iran after a drone attack killed three U.S. service members in Jordan over the weekend.

Bolton said Sunday night on NewsNation that the U.S. needs to carry out retaliatory attacks in the wake of the deadly drone strike. He said the U.S. needs to “impose enough pain on Iran” to ensure it does not attempt a similar attack on the U.S. again.

“To be clear, I don’t think it should be proportionate. I think it should be disproportionate. That’s how you create deterrence in the mind of your adversary, that the cost to them of attacking our forces is so high they won’t do it again,” he said.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4435396-john-bolton-calls-for-disproportionate-strikes-inside-iran-after-us-deaths/

 

Pentagon Offers Unusual Reason Why Anti-Air Defenses Failed At Jordan Border Base

by Tyler Durden
Monday, Jan 29, 2024 - 04:14 PM

(Update 1114ET): Some surprising details and admissions have emerged out of the Pentagon on Monday connected to the drone attack on Jordanian base Tower 22, related to the question of how the base's anti-air defenses could have failed so badly. First, in our prior reporting (below), we linked to Moon of Alabama which asked some key questions not being addressed amid the frenzy of international reporting and growing speculation [emphasis ZH]: 

The reporting so far does not answer many arising questions. Tower 22 is on the Jordanian side of the boarder but Jordan insists that no attack had happened on its grounds.

Another anomaly are the high rate of wounded from the alleged drone strike. Drones are used in mass in the Ukraine war but the casualties they cause are usually less than a handful per drone.

The highly automated short and medium range air-defenses (C-RAMs, the equivalent of naval Phalanx guns) at the base should be able to shoot down any drone. Why didn't they work?

Later in the day Monday, some of these questions are being answered. The Wall Street Journal cited US officials who spoke to the failure of the base's anti-air defenses:

The U.S. failed to stop a deadly attack on an American military outpost in Jordan because the enemy drone approached its target at the same time a U.S. drone was also returning to base, U.S. officials said Monday. 

The return of the U.S. drone led to some confusion over whether the incoming drone was friend or foe, officials have concluded so far. 

The enemy drone was launched from Iraq by a militia backed by Tehran, U.S. officials said. The outpost, Tower 22, sits in Jordan, hard on the borders of Iraq and Syria.

In total three US service members died and at least 34 were injured, with eight of these having been medically evacuated to a hospital in Germany.

At a moment some US Congressional hawks are clamoring to start a war with Iran, WSJ writes further, "The U.S. has yet to find evidence thus far that Iran directed the attack, a U.S. defense official said Monday."

Below is an example of a C-RAM in action... this is what ideally should have happened as the inbound enemy drone got closer to the Tower 22 base:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-says-significant-military-response-coming-iran-denies-involvement-us-troop

 

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

On the face of things it appears that the US is currently running the show, with the federal reserve and the military industrial complex yielding the most power. Are the people running these entities Sabbatean?

 

the US is not one homogenous entity. Clearly it is deeply divided so 'the US' is not running things. The people behind the central banks are running things. Those people created the federal reserve in 1913 and in the same year they created the IRS which enabled them to not only control the money supply and the value of peoples currency but also how much people were being taxed.

 

In this clip the jewish film maker aaron russo questions the jewish (possible sabbatean) chief of the IRS if income tax is in fact unconstitutional and the IRS chief warns russo about such aline of questioning, in yiddish:

Aaron Russo talks with IRS Commissioner Sheldon Cohen

 

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53 minutes ago, Talorgan said:

The question is are these groups and individuals following a very old script perhaps  influenced by interdimensional beings or tricksters leading them astray and how long has this really been going on

 

you could approach that question through a few different schools of thought. For example the david icke school of thought, the mark passio school of thought, the jungian school, through 'political ponorology' and also through a kabbalistic lens

 

Mark Passio defines the problem in terms of left brain imbalance, Carl Jung speaks about the shadow side of human nature, david icke says that we are being manipulated by an archontic force from the lower astral realm and in kabbalah the black magicians are working with the dark flipside of the tree of life which is the realm of the qlipphoth

 

Freud, who i suspect was a sabbatean-jew, explored peoples dreams to try and eek out any wishes that were being suppressed because they were offensive to those peoples conscious selves. Through this process he opened up a door to a dark underside to human nature and then tried to imply that everything was somehow tainted by this. Jung on the other hand sees the shadow as a kind of compost out of which beautiful things can grow.

 

So why are sabbateans deliberately breaking taboos? Well obviously there is some sort of kabbalistic logic at work in their process for their reasoning on that but i think it has something to do with them normalising their shadow.

 

So when we see satanists pushing moral reletavism it is essentially paving the way to a world in which the shadow side of human nature has full and free expression. Those people see christian morality as a constraining force on their behaviours and that is why they seek to destroy it. However it is a reality of our existence that there does exist amongst us psychopaths who do not experience guilt, remorse or shame like other people do and morality serves not only to create a harmonious society in which people respect each others rights but it also acts as a check and balance on psychopaths

 

So the view of political ponorology might see dark occultism as a form of organised psychopathy whereas david icke would say those psychopaths are bloodlines that are uniquely attuned to possession by demonic forces from the lower astral realm

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