does anyone feel total despair after seeing how the police behaved yesterday

[sunshine1]

in Tralfalgar Square?

I feel total depair tonight.

 

We are never getting our freedom back.

[Ethel]

Just despair in general right now, at the overall situation. Police fascism is just the sprinkles on the icing of the cake.

[John Connor]

The night is darkest before the dawn.

[Saved]

I expected it. Those filming and communicating between the pillars of that high place above the stage looked sinister just by virtue of their position. The vast array of riot vans parked at three of the exit streets weren't there for reactive reasons - they were there in preparation to instigate. 

 

[oz93666]

4 hours ago, sunshine1 said:

in Tralfalgar Square?

I feel total depair tonight.

We are never getting our freedom back.

 

If anyone thinks the people will wake up and demand their freedoms back they will be sorely disappointed.

 

The police are just members of the public , and most of the public think lockdown should be more intense and they support the actions of these police ...

 

People don't realize what we are up against ... Behind it all are ET's that are millions of years more advanced than us ...

 

There are no actions we can take that will beat them...

 

Only Prayer calling on the Devine realm to heal the perpetrators and get them to move on will work 

 

This link explains it all in great detail ...   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg18_LahHDHQZi7LYGbkS3Q

[serpentine]

4 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

. Behind it all are ET's that are millions of years more advanced than us ...

 

 

 

It's probably unwise to project current levels of human intelliegence, understanding and behavioural patterns onto such entities.

[Someone2630]

If you rely on Divine intervention, you are already fucked.

 

My grandmother had an expression "God helps those who help themselves".

 

If you're content to sit and whine and wait for God, you will achieve nothing.

 

If you stand by and watch police beat up on old men and women of any age, you have NO BALLS, you aren't fit to be called a man.

 

Time to wake up and bully the bullies. They have homes and families as well, perhaps some of their own medicine might wake them up.

 

Learn from the Japanese, who made weapons out of their hands and out of every day items. Get off you fat arses. lose 10 or 20 Kgs and start preparing for war.

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by Someone2630

[oz93666]

3 hours ago, Someone2630 said:

Time to wake up and bully the bullies. They have homes and families as well, perhaps some of their own medicine might wake them up.

 

Learn from the Japanese, who made weapons out of their hands and out of every day items. Get off you fat arses. lose 10 or 20 Kgs and start preparing for war.

 

 

I shouldn't have to point out the flaw in all that ... You have forgotten the "bully police" in Trafalgar square have the full backing of most of the public in what they did ...Most people believe the lock down should be more intense ! So what you are suggesting is a recipe for civil war , it wouldn't even be that ,because  not 1% would do what you suggest ....

 

You accuse me of sitting and waiting for God to help , no sitting won't do it , you have to actively invite help ..Pray , the intensity of which determines how much help can come ...

 

I would suggest it's you who are sitting doing nothing ... dreaming of a day when the masses will rise up ...

 

Of course violence will only make things worse ...

 

When you fully understand the opponent we face you realize no physical opposition can fix our situation   . 

Edited September 28, 2020 by oz93666

[Someone2630]

People have been praying to God for centuries and what has he done in response? NOTHING.

 

Of course "It's all part of his plan".

"God is testing us"

"The Great Satan is in charge."

"Wait for the second coming"

 

Which God should we pray to? Allah? Yaveh? Brahman? Which one, there are more Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, the list is endless and they outnumber the so-called Christians.

 

I remember back in the 1950's. "Thousands now living will never die." They did.

 

Keep praying, keep believing, and wait for the vaccine or the concentration camp, or just be a good, subservient little puppy.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

16 hours ago, sunshine1 said:

in Tralfalgar Square?

I feel total depair tonight.

 

We are never getting our freedom back.

 

You can at least console yourself with the fact that eventually, the families of plod will be suffering the same fate as the rest of us.....indeed, plod themselves too eventually!

[Fluke]

 

Don't know much about this lady but she seems very genuine. This might restore a bit of faith. Like David I'm not somebody who genuinely despises all police and he was right to call out the met and the riot police as the idiot thugs that they were.

 

This lady explains some of the officers at the station were asking questions and wanted to learn. 

 

The very few encounters I've had with kent police have been reasonable but I remember making a thread in the old forum about 10 years ago after I had a stop and search encounter in South London with the met thugs. 

[Someone2630]

When I was a kid - shit, - that was an awful long time ago, there were these things called "school bullies". There would be one guy with a big mouth and two or three of his mates. They really scared some of the kids at school. I think I was about 10 years old.

 

I wasn't a fighter, but I wasn't going to run. I was pretty strong and well built, it was just a matter of time before I knew that they would turn their attention to me. I asked my grandfather what to do.

 

"These are only big and brave when they have their mates with them and the ones that they prey on, don't fight back. You have two choices. First, if you can get twice as many kids together than in their group. just tackle them, there's strength in numbers, but, if you can't get the others to join in, find out where they all live , then go after the leader when he isn't surrounded by his mates and teach him a lesson. Then go after the rest of them , one by one."

 

I only had one friend at school, we had only just moved into that area, so I talked to my friend, he was also my age, but he wasn't scared. 

 

We found out where big mouth lived and we waited for him when he was on his own. As soon as he saw there were two of us, he tried to run, but he didn't get far. He was blubbering like a baby. We gave him a black eye and a bloody nose. His mates wouldn't leave the house without one of their parents for weeks afterwards. They knew what was going to happen, so we waited patiently for each one of them at a time. Took us over a year to get all four, but by God, was it worth it.

 

We had no more bullies at the school after that. I object to being bullied and there is no way that I'm ever going to run, even at my age. I'm still pretty fit and I studied several martial arts when I was MUCH younger, but I'll take a couple down with me, or die trying.

 

Oh for the good old days!

[Saved]

1 hour ago, Someone2630 said:

When I was a kid - shit, - that was an awful long time ago, there were these things called "school bullies". There would be one guy with a big mouth and two or three of his mates. They really scared some of the kids at school. I think I was about 10 years old.

 

I wasn't a fighter, but I wasn't going to run. I was pretty strong and well built, it was just a matter of time before I knew that they would turn their attention to me. I asked my grandfather what to do.

 

"These are only big and brave when they have their mates with them and the ones that they prey on, don't fight back. You have two choices. First, if you can get twice as many kids together than in their group. just tackle them, there's strength in numbers, but, if you can't get the others to join in, find out where they all live , then go after the leader when he isn't surrounded by his mates and teach him a lesson. Then go after the rest of them , one by one."

 

I only had one friend at school, we had only just moved into that area, so I talked to my friend, he was also my age, but he wasn't scared. 

 

We found out where big mouth lived and we waited for him when he was on his own. As soon as he saw there were two of us, he tried to run, but he didn't get far. He was blubbering like a baby. We gave him a black eye and a bloody nose. His mates wouldn't leave the house without one of their parents for weeks afterwards. They knew what was going to happen, so we waited patiently for each one of them at a time. Took us over a year to get all four, but by God, was it worth it.

 

We had no more bullies at the school after that. I object to being bullied and there is no way that I'm ever going to run, even at my age. I'm still pretty fit and I studied several martial arts when I was MUCH younger, but I'll take a couple down with me, or die trying.

 

Oh for the good old days!

As I read that I thought about the film 'Scum' and how Carlin went straight for the leader and then picked off his weaker mates one by one. 

 

Go after the 'strong man' and the minions fall like flies.

 

 

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Saved said:

As I read that I thought about the film 'Scum' and how Carlin went straight for the leader and then picked off his weaker mates one by one. 

 

Go after the 'strong man' and the minions fall like flies.

 

the point of politicians is to hide who the strong man is

 

The politician is the mask on the face of the oligarch behind him/her

 

Boris is the hate figure of the moment but he will come and go and the same oligarchs will be pulling the strings in the background and controlling the flows of money while the public keep grumbling about whoever the new politician is that the oligarchs have shoved out into the limelight to catch all the flak

 

George Bush jnr launched a war that killed over a million people....is anyone talking about him anymore?

[Newbiebrbr]

My point of view actually is no. A lot of articles regarding the curfews once it's 10 PM to have highly backfired on them. It's actually got people back to how they were normally, partying etc out in the streets. The government will keep trying everything it's got, but I do think we have a snowball effect here from now and it'll keep compounding and compounding and we'll win against the tyranny.

So lots of a good news because of their own stupid decisions. Stupid enough where it's actually getting people to wake up lol. The government are complete cretins and fools.



Tons of MP's are speaking against the curfews, hopefully not part of a planned project and them actually being genuine. But I'd say don't lose hope and keep smiling ahead and don't give a crap what the government says. 

People are gradually waking up and those stupid fucking curfews really fucked them big time. Which is great for all of us. Nightclubs may even re-open haha. I'm very hopeful at least now based on trafelger square lockdown protest, uni students hating their lives, the furlough scheme being really shit. People will speak more and more against this tyranny because they will have too.

[Newbiebrbr]

I do think even they'll go back hiding and thinking of more revised ways of successfully implementing Agenda 2030. 

All you can really do is spread the message and get people to wake up by getting them to question the government that they think are looking out for them. The more educated everyone is against the tyranny then the easier the battle becomes.

[CyprusAvenue]

19 hours ago, Fluke said:

 

Don't know much about this lady but she seems very genuine. This might restore a bit of faith. Like David I'm not somebody who genuinely despises all police and he was right to call out the met and the riot police as the idiot thugs that they were.

 

This lady explains some of the officers at the station were asking questions and wanted to learn. 

 

The very few encounters I've had with kent police have been reasonable but I remember making a thread in the old forum about 10 years ago after I had a stop and search encounter in South London with the met thugs. 

 

 

@Fluke was hoping that this would stimulate discussion (I had posted it in the main Covid thread).  I take heart that Kate Shemirani encountered such decent officers and has publicly spoken about it.  This is really important and we all need to ask ourselves how these officers must have felt when they watched Saturday's footage where other members of their profession behaved in such a violent and antagonistic manner.  Disgust?  Ashamed?  Frightened?

 

It's been reported that wives of some police officers have complained that they no longer recognise them as their behaviour has changed.  Reframing in action?

 

 

[jesuitsdidit]

The UK is completely f**ked.

We now have Secret Courts. If they want to f you over they can and the only effective remedy open to you is to try to take the case outside the country eg to ECHR or The Hague.

The whole system in the UK is completely broken. Provocateurs at rallies.

 

The Whole Establishment compromised that means Military, Judiciary, Politics, Education, Media, Medicine and Sport. All because they decided to attend some Dodgy Parties.

 

Spend some time abroad and you will see that I am correct.

It's a bad situation and if you can take out Dual Nationality I would. 

 

 

[Beaujangles]

 

[Someone2630]

18 minutes ago, jesuitsdidit said:

The UK is completely f**ked.

We now have Secret Courts. If they want to f you over they can and the only effective remedy open to you is to try to take the case outside the country eg to ECHR or The Hague.

The whole system in the UK is completely broken. Provocateurs at rallies.

 

The Whole Establishment compromised that means Military, Judiciary, Politics, Education, Media, Medicine and Sport. All because they decided to attend some Dodgy Parties.

 

Spend some time abroad and you will see that I am correct.

It's a bad situation and if you can take out Dual Nationality I would. 

 

 

Absolutely. Holland is OK, Hungary maybe. NOT France or Spain. Belgium could be worse. At least the police aren't thugs.

[Someone2630]

5 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

And the men(?) just sit and watch. Fucking cowardly sheep. 

[Beaujangles]

39 minutes ago, Someone2630 said:

And the men(?) just sit and watch. Fucking cowardly sheep. 

 

 

There should be more than just one video of this....all of those spectators should have been filming or questioning.  Now people have become like scared rabbits. And the two bastards doing the arrest had no masks at least until it was pointed out to them.