Why are some calling Icke controlled opposition?

[ItsTheTruthThough]

I just don’t get it. David is not leading anyone down an alternative path. On the contrary - everything he says has or is coming true before our eyes. It was David Icke who woke me up in the first place, I’d still be one of the sleeping masses probably cowering in a mask if it wasn’t for him. I’ve asked people who state it, but so far no answer and I’m failing to think of a single reason for why people may even think it. Anyone any ideas lol? Best I know what is going through their head so I know how to respond to these comments when I see them. 

[Beaujangles]

5 minutes ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

I just don’t get it. David is not leading anyone down an alternative path. On the contrary - everything he says has or is coming true before our eyes. It was David Icke who woke me up in the first place, I’d still be one of the sleeping masses probably cowering in a mask if it wasn’t for him. I’ve asked people who state it, but so far no answer and I’m failing to think of a single reason for why people may even think it. Anyone any ideas lol? Best I know what is going through their head so I know how to respond to these comments when I see them. 

 

I have ran into people who like to berate David. Like you I have asked why they feel that way...or what has he said that brings about that feeling about him. To date I have never been given an answer that has any degree of common sense or intelligence about it. Usually I just get " I just dont like him" or " I dont agree with what he says"... When you ask what he has said that they don't agree with the response is usually " I cant think of any one thing, but I just don't agree"... LOL.  You may occasionally get the computer nerd types who claim he is wrong about 5G or the historic reptilian aversion... when you point out that we all have a reptilian part to our brains they look at you like you are certifiable.  Conclusion: No point trying to reason with 'stupid'. 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

1 minute ago, Beaujangles said:

 

I have ran into people who like to berate David. Like you I have asked why they feel that way...or what has he said that brings about that feeling about him. To date I have never been given an answer that has any degree of common sense or intelligence about it. Usually I just get " I just dont like him" or " I dont agree with what he says"... When you ask what he has said that they don't agree with the response is usually " I cant think of any one thing, but I just don't agree"... LOL.  You may occasionally get the computer nerd types who claim he is wrong about 5G or the historic reptilian aversion... when you point out that we all have a reptilian part to our brains they look at you like you are certifiable.  Conclusion: No point trying to reason with 'stupid'. 

Haha seems you have the same experiences with people as me then! You’re right also you cannot reason with stupid

[Jack]

I mean Icke does have a lot of "baggage" and it doesn't sit comfortably with a lot of people.

 

Whatever your thoughts on him.

 

This is a global assault on humanity and not a "conspiracy theory" anymore.

 

I think sometimes you have to remove yourself so nature can take it's place

[ItsTheTruthThough]

32 minutes ago, Jack said:

I mean Icke does have a lot of "baggage" and it doesn't sit comfortably with a lot of people.

 

Whatever your thoughts on him.

 

This is a global assault on humanity and not a "conspiracy theory" anymore.

 

I think sometimes you have to remove yourself so nature can take it's place

You are probably right there but this ‘baggage’ is not really a big deal when we are fighting a war for our lives and like you say it’s not a ‘conspiracy theory’ anymore

 

Maybe some people are placed there to say that to try cause rifts in the awakened community too?

[Beaujangles]

1 hour ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

Haha seems you have the same experiences with people as me then! You’re right also you cannot reason with stupid

 

haha yes... sometimes I go the route of saying that they can choose to not understand things they dont want to try to understand... I guess Im hoping that by planting the seed of self reflection in them they may go look, listen and hopefully absorb...albeit verrrry slowwwly.

[Beaujangles]

I think 'baggage' is a loose term for that which people find uncomfortable.

 

But sometimes the truth can be very uncomfortable.

 

The problem as I see it is more with those who feel uncomfortable rather than someone trying to relay those uncomfortable truths.

[Nobby Noboddy]

2 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

You are probably right there but this ‘baggage’ is not really a big deal when we are fighting a war for our lives and like you say it’s not a ‘conspiracy theory’ anymore

 

Maybe some people are placed there to say that to try cause rifts in the awakened community too?

There are a lot of things we thought important to investigate and argue about which can be left until after we've dealt with this imminent threat to our existence.

 

I'm of the view now, although I like David and James Corbett and some others, that it is almost impossible to get a great 'following' or to prominence without being at least a bit shilly. It's just not allowed and so easily dealt with. If 'they' can kill presidents and celebrities in plain sight and get away with it what would it cost to get rid of a relative nobody (no-one intended).

[oz93666]

11 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

I just don’t get it. David is not leading anyone down an alternative path. On the contrary.....

 

Why are you making a thread on this ? which will only give this idea attention and legs .... 

 

No one with any credibility is calling DI controlled opposition ...just a few anonymous idiots ., there will always be these ...

 

That said we are all subject to mind control/influence ...DI is obviously greatly resistant to this but it will still have some effect steering his message off course to some extent , "holographic matrix reality" etc ... it maybe he's wrong about the virus not existing , time will tell , he will have a natural tendency to disbelieve everything , and mind influence could have led him too far on this .... 

 

But the idea that DI is Knowingly spreading a false message is absurd .... I also doubt Boris is Knowingly being deceptive ... Mind influence is all pervasive and people do believe in what they are doing. .

[ItsTheTruthThough]

3 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

Why are you making a thread on this ? which will only give this idea attention and legs .... 

 

No one with any credibility is calling DI controlled opposition ...just a few anonymous idiots ., there will always be these ...

 

That said we are all subject to mind control/influence ...DI is obviously greatly resistant to this but it will still have some effect steering his message off course to some extent , "holographic matrix reality" etc ... it maybe he's wrong about the virus not existing , time will tell , he will have a natural tendency to disbelieve everything , and mind influence could have led him too far on this .... 

 

But the idea that DI is Knowingly spreading a false message is absurd .... I also doubt Boris is Knowingly being deceptive ... Mind influence is all pervasive and people do believe in what they are doing. .

Making a thread in this forum here of all places is hardly going to give it attention and legs. We are all David supporters here and here because we are wide awake.

As already stated, I made this thread because I cannot get my head around it, can find no reason why people think it so would like some clarity on the matter so I know best how to respond to people who make the claim.

No one with credibility to me and you and anyone here says it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not credible on another forum in someone else’s mind. If I don’t understand their thought process, how on earth am I supposed to effectively respond? I’m seeing more and more idiots say it and since getting out of this mess relies on a mass awakening I think it’s all our duty to try shake people awake and plant seeds of doubt when they believe the government is their friend and anyone with an alternative view to the narrative shoved down our throat is controlled opposition or nuts.

[oz93666]

Just now, ItsTheTruthThough said:

.No one with credibility to me and you and anyone here says it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not credible on another forum in someone else’s mind. If I don’t understand their thought process, how on earth am I supposed to effectively respond? 

 

Well there's people who believe in Flat Earth and that there is no Space ...!!! Are you going to try to respond and understand them too ??

 

Don't give attention to any of it , it is all a blight on this forum ...

 

But to answer your question it is understandable that people like us who now understand the authorities they have previously trusted , politicians , doctors , media are all a lie , are now suspicious of EVERYONE ... It's an occupational hazard of being a truther! 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

 

Well there's people who believe in Flat Earth and that there is no Space ...!!! Are you going to try to respond and understand them too ??

 

Don't give attention to any of it , it is all a blight on this forum ...

 

But to answer your question it is understandable that people like us who now understand the authorities they have previously trusted , politicians , doctors , media are all a lie , are now suspicious of EVERYONE ... It's an occupational hazard of being a truther! 

if flat earth and no space beliefs had any impact on this war on humanity then yes I would respond to that, but it doesn’t so not sure how it’s comparable? I’ve only so much time and energy so obviously cannot respond to every single person I see say it, but I think it’s right to not ignore all of it when there is room to wake people up. 
 

I suppose it would end up making some people suspicious of everyone in those circumstances, I hadn’t thought of that.

 

[Jack]

I'm not a fan of Ritchie Allen, he thinks he' something special.

But I do listen to him sometimes.

 

He brings up David Icke here

 

 

[oz93666]

12 minutes ago, Jack said:

I'm not a fan of Ritchie Allen, he thinks he' something special.

But I do listen to him sometimes.

 

He brings up David Icke here

 

 

 Well done for finding that and cueing it Jack .... Richie Allen is too closed minded and strait ... he says it's ridiculous the queen is a Lizard ...LOL ... he needs to expand his information input , I expect he thinks the SSP is ridiculous , and Karl Mollison too ....

 

But Allen is not Bashing Icke , he says in that video he is still a big fan ... but he says "Icke is not a Threat to the agenda"...

 

The reason the German Doctor was arrested is to send a clear message to the thousands of other Doctors out there watching  ...What the Cabal fear most of all is doctors and virologists who have depth knowledge of the subject coming forward and exposing the lies Specifically about corona . Their opinions will obviously carry more weight  .... 

 

David would be the first to  admit virology  is not his specialist subject ... But  Icke gets the wider agenda and is the favorite of the people protesting 

 

Check out this channeling of Victoria , where she explains the process of reptilian replacement and says this was done to most of her family 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by oz93666

[bamboozooka]

as long as the ickettes agree that icke is not above the "question everything" mantra then all is good. debate away.

[serpentine]

1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

 Well done for finding that and cueing it Jack .... Richie Allen is too closed minded and strait ...

 

 

 

 

It's no fun listening to someone live on the airways sensing that they are moments from physical collapse but he wells knows he overdoes it at times as a one man radio show putting out a minimum of 5 broadcasts a week. He can do that because he served his apprenticeship on the fringes of the msm which also shows him precisely how the msm is working now.

 

 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

8 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 Well done for finding that and cueing it Jack .... Richie Allen is too closed minded and strait ... he says it's ridiculous the queen is a Lizard ...LOL ... he needs to expand his information input , I expect he thinks the SSP is ridiculous , and Karl Mollison too ....

 

But Allen is not Bashing Icke , he says in that video he is still a big fan ... but he says "Icke is not a Threat to the agenda"...

 

The reason the German Doctor was arrested is to send a clear message to the thousands of other Doctors out there watching  ...What the Cabal fear most of all is doctors and virologists who have depth knowledge of the subject coming forward and exposing the lies Specifically about corona . Their opinions will obviously carry more weight  .... 

 

David would be the first to  admit virology  is not his specialist subject ... But  Icke gets the wider agenda and is the favorite of the people protesting 

 

Check out this channeling of Victoria , where she explains the process of reptilian replacement and says this was done to most of her family 

 

 

That video was so interesting. What do others make of it?

 

I don’t always fully know what I think of the reptilian thing but I can only conclude it is all entirely possible.

[ItsTheTruthThough]

8 hours ago, Jack said:

I'm not a fan of Ritchie Allen, he thinks he' something special.

But I do listen to him sometimes.

 

He brings up David Icke here

 

 

Hmmm I suppose i also understand why he may have this thinking but personally I don’t think Icke should stay away. When Icke is right, he’s right, despite the fact people may not agree with his other ideas.

Thank you for sharing the video, I enjoy seeing other people’s perspectives.

[Bombadil]

The only reason they would slag off Mr Icke is probably because he’s eating into their revenue stream.

[Cgab1]

On 9/27/2020 at 9:51 AM, Beaujangles said:

 

I have ran into people who like to berate David. Like you I have asked why they feel that way...or what has he said that brings about that feeling about him. To date I have never been given an answer that has any degree of common sense or intelligence about it. Usually I just get " I just dont like him" or " I dont agree with what he says"... When you ask what he has said that they don't agree with the response is usually " I cant think of any one thing, but I just don't agree"... LOL.  You may occasionally get the computer nerd types who claim he is wrong about 5G or the historic reptilian aversion... when you point out that we all have a reptilian part to our brains they look at you like you are certifiable.  Conclusion: No point trying to reason with 'stupid'. 

Stupid people were put here so that Fascism can thrive...

[Macnamara]

On one hand David has given some rousing speeches and brings his own sizeable following to the protests. A range of speakers also provides a mass appeal

 

On the other hand i see Richie Allen's point that the newspapers will keep spinning the protests as a small gathering of 'conspiracy theorists'

 

 

[oz93666]

8 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

That video was so interesting. What do others make of it?

 

I don’t always fully know what I think of the reptilian thing but I can only conclude it is all entirely possible.

 

Glad you liked it  iTTT ... IMHO Mollison is the best source we have , he fills in all the missing parts in the jig saw puzzle. There are a hundred channelings like this  Michael Jackson , Jimmy Savile a Reptilian many are on this Youtube channel ... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg18_LahHDHQZi7LYGbkS3Q/videos  just the first half of each video , to see the whole thing you have to become a member of his website , but there's no charge . 

[Merlin]

Well like i said in my earlier post on another thread, you can't 100% trust anyone especially someone previously employed by the BBC unless you know/speak/examine them personally and know what your doing(even then you can still be deceived by a high tier propaganda agent), however it doesn't change the fact that he's repeatedly made himself clear how he has said "You take the information, you pull it apart pretty much and analyze it yourself and decide whether or not independently you would like to believe in it", plus like i previously stated when you look at the way icke is performing, he really doesn't seem like a backwards agent, not like you would know it IF he was, but no he isn't, you have to be realistic, everything he is doing is maximized at the same time he's avoiding bias legal action from the government/agenda etc..

This is a man of the people, for the people, what agent of the agenda really states - Love is the answer, we should all be united, etc..

That is why, spite his previous employment and the odd thing that can be picked apart and used against him, you have to be realistic.  Everything this man has worked for and everything his books tell you about is enlightenment, opening your eyes, and freedom.

Even as a backwards agent, he wouldn't want to spin that stuff.....  Believe me Lol, this is why i have supported him without him knowing it for almost 20 years, (i'm 30 now).

Go with your gut, my gut tells me this Man is fighting a battle with us and won't go quietly into the night, and my god even when he does, we will be ready to support his son in pioneering his fathers image of the world. - it won't be quietly*

I don't personally believe love will prevail, but how can we ever dismiss it, icke's Faith and Hope in itself for Humanity is a gift, the times he has spoken about the capabilities of humanity and how we can improve if we take away the fear, the greed, etc..

Why should we not believe it, we have come this far after all.

I also feel, what he says, is coming from what he believes to be true, that is enough.

Edited September 29, 2020 by Merlin

[Beaujangles]

13 hours ago, Merlin said:

Well like i said in my earlier post on another thread, you can't 100% trust anyone especially someone previously employed by the BBC unless you know/speak/examine them personally and know what your doing(even then you can still be deceived by a high tier propaganda agent), however it doesn't change the fact that he's repeatedly made himself clear how he has said "You take the information, you pull it apart pretty much and analyze it yourself and decide whether or not independently you would like to believe in it", plus like i previously stated when you look at the way icke is performing, he really doesn't seem like a backwards agent, not like you would know it IF he was, but no he isn't, you have to be realistic, everything he is doing is maximized at the same time he's avoiding bias legal action from the government/agenda etc..

This is a man of the people, for the people, what agent of the agenda really states - Love is the answer, we should all be united, etc..

That is why, spite his previous employment and the odd thing that can be picked apart and used against him, you have to be realistic.  Everything this man has worked for and everything his books tell you about is enlightenment, opening your eyes, and freedom.

Even as a backwards agent, he wouldn't want to spin that stuff.....  Believe me Lol, this is why i have supported him without him knowing it for almost 20 years, (i'm 30 now).

Go with your gut, my gut tells me this Man is fighting a battle with us and won't go quietly into the night, and my god even when he does, we will be ready to support his son in pioneering his fathers image of the world. - it won't be quietly*

I don't personally believe love will prevail, but how can we ever dismiss it, icke's Faith and Hope in itself for Humanity is a gift, the times he has spoken about the capabilities of humanity and how we can improve if we take away the fear, the greed, etc..

Why should we not believe it, we have come this far after all.

I also feel, what he says, is coming from what he believes to be true, that is enough.

 

 

I agree....it is my gut that tells me DI is no agent for whoever. I do think it is either a little strange or simply luck that David hasn't been targeted.  But I think he makes sure he is around trustworthy people for the most part. He also stays visible which keeps him hidden in plain sight.  Nothing he says causes me to doubt his cause. In fact even the reptilian theory carries weight if we realize that not all is as it seems....ever.

[bamboozooka]

question everything