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I have been meaning to start this thread for a while to compile information that I hope people will find helpful for their health.

 

First I must disclose that I am not a doctor, and I really don't care for most doctors, in fact, prior to January I had not been to a doctor in over a decade, and if it weren't for the particular living conditions I found myself in at the beginning of the year I would have made it a point to go another decade without seeing a doctor.

 

My journey into better health was I believe through divine intervention. At the time when I found the following presentation by the late Dr. Sebi my mind was no where near food as I was still working in automotive as a technician, but through a very strange course of events I vacated that line of work and then found this video where Dr. Sebi talks about his journey into healing with alkaline food and herbs. This presentation changed my life over night in terms of what I was eating and how I felt and since that day I have maintained alkalinity almost full time and only been sick once when I deviated around Thanksgiving with too much Pumpkin pie. Other than that I have not been sick at all in four years.

 

I was already "awake" to the cabal and "NWO" type information from an event that happened earlier in my life around 2009, but even before that awakening, I had in the back of my mind an awareness that the government was corrupt and there are much deeper issues at play. I attribute this awareness to being raised by parents who were referred to as knowledge-seekers, them being the product of the hippie generation and being enlightened due to using psychedelic substances to expand consciousness, our home was filled with books ranging from alchemy to the universe and all sorts of stuff in between.

 

Now that the short preface is out of the way, here is the presentation that I recommend to everyone who asks me about how I stay so healthy and in shape. You are not going to agree with everything he says, but his story is fascinating and the information is certainly something to be considered.

 

I have heard people say, you cannot change alkalinity in the body, and I disagree with this. There would be no reason for a company to make urine test strips if we could not change alkalinity in the body. Most of what people consider "food" should not be considered food since it technically is poison and I'm talking about the pre-packaged crap and fast "food". Doritos, fritos, lucky charms, mcdonalds, pizza, pork, tuna, beef, soy, all of these items are on the acid side of the pH scale. pH is abbreviation for potential hydrogen. Anything 7.0 negative on the pH scale is acid, anything 7.0 positive is alkaline. Alkaline food consists of live vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds.

 

There are two main questions you should ask yourself when considering something to eat, I call this the two question rule.

 

First, is is alkaline or acid?

 

Second, is is organic or GMO?

 

Something can be "organic" but also be on the acid side of the pH scale such as garlic or orange carrots. In my opinion based on information I've found, garlic is actually not good for you, it is so acidic that it destroys cells. Garlic is something like 3.0 on the pH scale. That whole eat garlic to ward off a cold is old misinformation I believe. Same thing with orange carrots which I believe were created by the House of Orange family in the Netherlands to commemorate their name. Given what we know now about these arrogant old bloodline families who think they are so important I can see a family playing with genetics of plants to create a vegetable in their "honor" and then tricking people into thinking that it is good for them, such is the case with orange carrots and the whole, they are good for your eyes nonsense.

 

So we ask ourselves, is this organic or GMO? Always opt for the organic item. Organic is NOT a gimmick like people have been led to believe. They are simply not wanting to justify spending the extra money so they have money left over to buy cheap beer or cigarettes or wine. I've worked in the grocery industry and have gone through training programs one of which was explaining how organic items are separated from non organic items to prevent cross contamination so to speak from the second they are picked all the way to when they are placed on the shelf, being kept separate from GMO items and all along the way each person working in logistics must provide their signature assuring that the items have been expedited as such.

 

All organic items in the produce department will have a code that begins with the number 9.

 

After we have determined that an item is organic we ask, is it alkaline? For example, some Doritos are now labeled as "organic", but they are still acid. Another example would be corn. Corn is NOT a nutrient-rich item which is why we see bits and pieces of it in our stool, the body is not using it so it is expelled, but corn can sneak through the agriculture system and be labeled as organic if it does not contain round up weed killer in it and the farmer wants to pay to have his corn certified organic. But it is still acidic, so corn being organic makes no difference, it is not healthy.

 

So again, the two questions are, is it organic? Is it alkaline? Those two questions are your go to when determining whether or not a food is safe to eat. You cannot eat "organic" doritos and think it is healthy simply because the bag says "organic" as they are not alkaline, they are acid.

 

Likewise you cannot eat walnuts or pears both of which are alkaline but which could contain round up weed killer if they are GMO. That's why there is a need for the two question rule.

 

Now that you are aware of the two question rule, on to the presentation. Yes it is long. No pain no gain. You want the good information then you will have to be receptive and listen. You will not agree with everything he has to say but he does present some very profound information.

 

This extended version has been scrubbed from youtube I believe because he talks about how white women should not lay with black men, the lie behind Cleopatra being the Queen of the Nile and her running off with Mark Anthony, he exposes Bill Clinton and Sanjay Gupta as frauds, he also exposes Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as being frauds, he talks about people in Hollywood seeking his help, he speaks about traveling to various countries in Africa and helping cure people of sickle cell, impotence, herpes, autism, and many other dis-eases.

 

This is the best place to start in my opinion if you are searching for ways to feel better.

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/dJ4FBq0nAaaB/

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In the following video Barbara O'neill talks about the acid alkaline balance.

 

"Acid Alkaline Balance" by Barbara O'Neill

 

May 17, 2012

 

Channel: BeyondPatmos

 

 

 

This amazing woman is in Australia and she has a retreat there. She is currently facing massive tyranny from the state, as is her husband due to his stance against vaccines, last I heard. She is certainly a person to unite with during these times.

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Great, thanks for this. I'll watch over the coming days. 

 

Also check out Dr Mc Dougall and the starch based diet. Its along the same lines that processed food is poison and starch based foods should be the mainstay of our diet. 

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Thanks for the information @Mackers I will search for Dr. Mc Dougall and give him a listen, but I can tell you right now that Dr. Sebi is the complete opposite in his view of starch. He says that starch is a chemical and I believe he is correct. Starch is a "binder" to get ingredients to link that otherwise would not without it. Something to consider researching more.

 

His information will certainly challenge the way we look at food and what we have been taught, but I really believe in him because he never went to school, he was not fed false information by any "professors" who are paid to tow a narrative. One of the most censored industries is the "education" system where it is well known that scientists who find the truth are censored and ridiculed or in extreme cases fired or disappeared when they don't keep quiet about their findings.

 

This little device from Horiba will be my next purchase when I get a chance. It says it tests water but I will call them first and ask if it is suitable for food, and if not can they recommend one of their products. This way I can put an end to the spinach debate. Many people believe that spinach is alkaline and Dr. Sebi says spinach is a starch, and I agree. It is a chalky plant which leaves a bitter aftertaste and I've noticed a strange grey build up of substance in our plastic Viatmix blender which I believe is tiny spinach particles stuck in the brittle porous plastic, which is why I no longer use the vitamix and have gone back to the old school cheap glass blender. That I will address in another post.

 

https://www.horiba.com/en_en/products/detail/action/show/Product/laquatwin-ph-33-873/

 

Also, I want to add this advanced presentation by Dr. Jere Rivera-Dugenio. There was another one that I saw years ago which I thought was even more amazing but it was deleted from youtube and I have not found it elsewhere yet. I will revisit it later and add notes.

 

2018 Autism One Presentation - Quantum Access Technology

 

His channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWMNtQ3203qhdCh7qC7I7nA/videos

 

https://youtu.be/uoO75dktFOo

 

 

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Adding this link regarding soy.

 

Anyone telling you that soy is a "health" food or a "super" food have been lied to. Soy is best left for the soil to devour and hopefully turn into useable nutrients for real plants.

 

https://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/

 

After decades of hearing marketing spin about how soy is a wonder food, a protein-rich legume able to rescue us from our dependence on meat, I suppose it’s understandable why so many people have yet to understand fully the dangers of soy. Really, you’re not going to get the full story unless you research it on your own. And why would you, when soy is “universally” touted as a health food?

Well, it isn’t

 

Thankfully, more and more research has been done regarding the dangers of soy, and what it’s revealed should scare you.

SOY DANGER #1: PHYTOESTROGENS

Soy is higher in phytoestrogens than just about any other food source. Phytoestrogens are plant-based estrogens that mimic estrogen in our bodies. In recent years, you may have read about studies which indicate phytoestrogens are good for you. But ask yourself, who funded those studies? The soy industry, that’s who. Independent research has clearly shown that consuming phytoestrogens is downright dangerous for the human body.

 

It’s only common sense. No one argues, for example, that a leading cause of breast cancer, endometriosis, uterine fibroids, infertility, and low libido is unopposed estrogen, or estrogen dominance. Why, then, would anyone argue that we should consume more of a food high in estrogen?

 

The article continues:

 

https://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/

 

And an interesting story about prison inmates health decline after being put on a 60-70% soy diet:

 

https://www.foodrenegade.com/life-threatening-retaliation-in-soy-prison-lawsuit/

 

 

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Interesting information on orange carrots. By all means feel free to conduct your own research.

 

https://www.eatingeurope.com/blog/why-carrots-are-orange/

 

I have not eaten carrots in years, and I don't really miss them that much.

 

I should have mentioned earlier on, that, this is not a "diet". This alkaline food. I don't diet, I don't need to. I was blessed and cursed with metabolism of a hummingbird, so I have always been thin, even though I was eating mostly acid my entire life up until 2016.

 

This eating behavior is a lifestyle based on being conscious and aware of what I consider to be food. When I say "food" I mean something that will be beneficial to me, such as repairing and building cells, bone strength, clear eye sight, mobility /joints and muscles, stamina, clarity, etc. But at the same time this eating behavior, this conscious decision making is also about the bigger picture in many aspects. Such as respect, and so I consider, is this sustainable, and safe for the planet? I believe that growing trees that naturally bear alkaline fruit is most certainly helping the planet, and mankind.

 

It's not a diet, it's a conscious decision to eat nutrient-rich food. It's a conscious decision to eat clean so you feel clean. Down there in the arse it makes a huge difference what you eat. To put it bluntly. 😉 So much colon cancer on people these days.... it is because of very bad "food". People clogging up their pooper with poison.

 

On that note, once you begin to eat "clean" you will be using the restroom as your body filters out all the junk. This is natural and takes each person a different amount of time to acclimate but it will eventually regulate the more you transition into healthier eating. Your body will be constantly detoxing should you remain disciplined, until you reach a point where the built up toxins are filtered out, then you level off are in "the zone" and feeling great all the time with regularity.

 

Clean filtered no fluoride water is the most ideal also, and tell your water how much you love it and are grateful. Check out a book by Masaru Emoto, The Secret Life of Water.

 

 

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Wow thanks Messenger!

 

I must admit, I feel pretty shameful as my diet is so bad. 

I only eat one meal a day and it's usually far from healthy.

I just don't enjoy eating and struggle to discipline myself (I lack major self control. I don't know what's happened to me over these past few years, but I'm on destruction mode 24/7).

 

Will be watching these to hopefully get motivated! 🙂

I've tried for years... very ashamed to say..

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Hi @allymisfit

 

Well this thread is certainly not meant to shame anyone. I'm sure there are people who want to eat better but they don't know where to start, or they are very unmotivated because of this corona bs and everything else happening in the world. It's ok, this thread is here for when people are ready.

 

The presentation by the late Dr. Sebi was so fascinating and profound to me that it literally flipped a switch for me and over night I went cold turkey on everything I was eating (no pun intended). I woke up the next day and watched the presentation again but armed with a pencil and paper I took notes and wrote down all the food and herbs he talked about. Then I went to the store and bought about half of them and went home and began experimenting with flavors I like. It was challenging at first getting into a groove but I eventually found some good dishes through trial and error.

 

Also I should make note that this alkaline eating lifestyle is vegetarian. Meat products are NOT alkaline, they are acid, so yes I have cut out almost all meat products from my food list except for wild caught salmon which I will eat maybe once a month. I have also cut out almost all dairy products except for pizza once or twice a month.

 

Dispelling the "Vegan" term. Where did the word "vegan" come from? No one knows for sure but in my humble opinion based on what I know now, there is no such thing as "vegan". It's a word made-up I believe to poison the vegetarian and healthy eating movement/lifestyle/growing awareness of the dangers of eating meat and dairy products.

 

The etymology of the word "vegetable":

 

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=vegetable

 

mid-15c., "non-animal life," originally any plant, from vegetable (adj.); specific sense of "plant cultivated for food, edible herb or root"

 

capable of life or growth; growing, vigorous;" also "neither animal nor mineral, of the plant kingdom, living and growing as a plant," from Old French vegetable "living, fit to live," and directly from Medieval Latin vegetabilis "growing, flourishing," from Late Latin vegetabilis "animating, enlivening," from Latin vegetare "to enliven," from vegetus "vigorous, enlivened, active, sprightly," from vegere "to be alive, active, to quicken," from PIE root *weg- "to be strong, be lively."

 

Another tip that I believe is important for good health - no more microwave oven! Throw your microwave oven in the trash and replace it with a toaster oven. The microwave oven is literally a small scale radiation device that is scrambling the cells of your "food". Don't even stand near one if someone is using it, walk out of the room.

 

I'm adding to this Health thread the following video where a lady conducted a large pH test on many brands of bottled water. The results may surprise you and change how you look at water.

 

20 brands of bottled water tested for pH

 

Channel: AlkalineWaterPlus

 

 

 

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Stopping by to add the following link.

 

Apparently some people in Ann Arbor Michigan state are seeking to legalize some psychedelic plants. I think this is great, these plants have medicinal uses that can help people.

 

https://wakeup-world.com/2020/09/25/ann-arbor-just-voted-to-tell-cops-to-stop-arresting-people-for-mushrooms-ayahuasca-and-more/

 

For those who have not seen this, it is a profound bit of perspective by Graham Hancock regarding psychedelics.

 

The real reason why DMT is banned - The Spirit Molecule | Graham Hancock

 

 

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6 hours ago, CyprusAvenue said:

Thanks for these posts and links @Messenger and you really do post some interesting health and food-related info.  One q for you - assuming you use a rife machine, is it for a particular ailment or general well-being?   

Hi CyprusAve, I'm glad you brought up Rife, thank you. I was going to post that soon enough.

 

I have not used a Rife machine, but I would consider trying it if I had an ailment that I could not eliminate with proper nutrition.

 

To my knowledge the Rife technology fell by the way side for many decades, I believe due to the usual reasons, suppression, "education" industry not sharing the information with students, and the medical industry paid by big pharma to keep it hush. I'm sure there was some conspiring along the way by the usual culprits to keep it quiet.

 

A lot of people still are not aware of the Rife tech but more are learning about it and it is now being called something else, some fancy medical terminology I cannot remember, but I believe they use it to eliminate kidney stones. They blast the stones with frequency and it breaks them into smaller pieces.

 

If you are looking to use frequency for healing I recommend a tuning fork, particularly 136.1 hz. I have one of these and some years ago I had bad back pain from sleeping on an air mattress. It got so bad that one day my mother suggested I try her tuning fork, so I did try it, and it seemed to help. I would lay down flat on a yoga mat and breath in deep, exhale deep (a lightbulb just turned on, probably another reason for the masks!) while repeatedly striking the tuning fork. My back pain did subside after a few days but I also ditched the air mattress.

 

Here is a link, you might be able to find it cheaper at another website but I have since boycotted amazon.

 

https://www.omnivos.com/om-136-1-hz-tuning-fork.html

 

From another website:

 

"Tap into the primal essence of the "Om" and find deep relaxation in seconds. Tune yourself to the Om to enter a state of balance and a sense of connection to the whole. Use this fork to center the body and mind, putting the self in a place for higher consciousness and profound spiritual healing.

This fork works well on the rib heads, thoracic vertebra, sternum, sacrum and illium. Use this fork directly on the body, with acupressure points to tap into the power of the Om, which, according to Hans Cousto in the Cosmic Octave, corresponds to the period of the cycle of the Earth around the Sun (one year)."

 

For those just tuning into this thread here is the Royal Rife video for context to CyprusAve's question:

 

The Royal Rife Story

 

 

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@Messenger thanks for responding.   In the Lyme disease world there's all sorts of wacky treatments, potions etc mainly cos people are so desperate to regain their health.  I do have a rife machine (Doug coil, if that means anything to you) but haven't yet used it due to being an utter wuss and worrying about herxing which could floor me for days.  It's basically working on disrupting the bacterial cell wall.  There are some who've had really good results from using it regularly alongside herbals etc.  

 

You're right, pharma has ensured that it's been suppressed and their greed knows no bounds.  Haven't heard about the kidney stones but that must definitely improve lives especially with avoiding a medical procedure.

 

A tuning fork sounds useful and do need to work on relaxation and mindset, too easy to forget about that side of things especially right now.

 

Looking forward to more of your posts!

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3 hours ago, CyprusAvenue said:

@Messenger thanks for responding.   In the Lyme disease world there's all sorts of wacky treatments, potions etc mainly cos people are so desperate to regain their health.  I do have a rife machine (Doug coil, if that means anything to you) but haven't yet used it due to being an utter wuss and worrying about herxing which could floor me for days.  It's basically working on disrupting the bacterial cell wall.  There are some who've had really good results from using it regularly alongside herbals etc.  

 

You're right, pharma has ensured that it's been suppressed and their greed knows no bounds.  Haven't heard about the kidney stones but that must definitely improve lives especially with avoiding a medical procedure.

 

A tuning fork sounds useful and do need to work on relaxation and mindset, too easy to forget about that side of things especially right now.

 

Looking forward to more of your posts!

I have not heard of Doug Coil but I will research him.

 

I have not heard of "herxing" and had to look it up. So sorry to hear that you have Lyme dis-ease (If you do). I wish I knew of a cure or a way to heal that. While working at Whole Foods I met a girl who has Lyme and it consumed most of her life, she talked about it a lot and she was depressed much of the time. I had often wondered if Rife tech would eliminate the bad cells in the body and suggested it to her to look into but we have not spoke since I left that company.

 

If the terminology regarding the kidney stones comes to me I will mention it. Maybe it was Extracorporeal Shock Wave Lithotripsy (ESWL) that I am thinking of. Again when I was working at WF's market there was a lady customer one day who mentioned it when I told her about Royal Rife, she replied with oh you mean such and such. It might have been Lithotripsy but I cannot remember at the moment.

 

Thank you CyprusAve for contributing to the thread, I appreciate it. 😊

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Hello Icke friends, I have through some other research recently found the following presentation by a Dr. Tel-Oren which I am adding to the thread because I believe he has a strong grasp on proper nutrition practices for optimum health.

 

I have never met him nor am I promoting any of his products but at 22:00 into the following lecture he is already making sense about how we need more "sea vegetables", pertaining to mucopolysaccharides. I agree but of course also being in mind sustainability for the environment in which we take from.

 

He continues by addressing "super foods" which are a "marketing tactic" designed to stimulate what should be natural responses, for example he points out the libido. I believe he is quite accurate in this.

 

He also advocates for "real foods", "wholesome salt" (not table salt, he makes a distinction), less hybridized vegetables. Again this I believe he is accurate.

 

He addresses how we have been led to believe that fruit is bad. He says go to mother nature. He says, don't go to the guru, go to mother nature. Long periods of fasting can cause fatty liver as can fructose from some sweet fruits such as pears. Balance the fructose with some other vegetables.

 

Smart advice IMO.

 

He does sound to have been tricked by the "vegan" diet. IMO there is no such thing as vegan and I've mentioned this in another thread. The etymology of "vegetable" is non animal life, from plant to flourish.

 

Other wise he seems to be very aware of the importance of natural food from Earth and the ocean.

 

http://www.ecopolitan.com/doctor-t

 

 

 

Dr. Tel-Oren on Top Foods for Optimal Health, Longevity, & Detoxification

 

His channel on youtube:

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDpYft1CsHBUEbA2dn66VKQ

 

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He does also mention eating cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, and beets. These items are not on the alkaline list according to the herbalist Dr. Sebi. I would love to see a test done on those items to see where they stand on the pH scale. I personally do not eat cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, or beets, I have never trusted them or got a great feeling after eating them.

 

At 53:00 he mentions society and how people put their baby on "ritalin". So true. That shit is poison, do not let any school "teacher" or "doctor" demons put your kid on ritalin. Change your child's food intake and you will watch their behavior change. It's called discipline. 

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Another presentation I have been trying to finish is the following titled, Professor Arnold Ehret's Mucusless Diet Healing System pt 1

 

I am posting it because the narrator refers to the etymology of mucus and dis-ease.

 

The following content speaks about a mucusless diet, much like what Dr. Sebi had preached about maintaining alkalinity to remain mucus-free.

 

Lots of excellent information in here covering etymology of many words.

 

 

 

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Hi Messenger

Just like to add a link to the book the secret life of water. available in amy different dwonlaodable formats - just found it and thought it may be of interest to others - thanks fro the recomendation! - will start reading it soon myself!

https://archive.org/details/thesecretlifeofwaterbymasaruemoto2003

 

I pretty much agree with your thread.

Natural hygiene advocates much of what you put forward. 

Re: water - I have used a distiller now for over 15 yrs. I tend to balance out the minerals by adding some to the water sometimes depending on what I feel like. In a Litre of distilled and ozonated water I might sometimes at a small flake of mag chloride, a tiny pinch of sea salt, a good pinch of MSM (sulphur) and a pinch of bicarbonate. I always enjoy it most when I leave the water in glass jug outside on a sunny day for a few hours and never have tasted water that is so refreshing and tasty and incredibly invigorating. It is almost like a food. I cant touch tap water which turns the stomach. Bottled water is mostly rubbish esp that presented in plastic bottles.

Re: Fasting. I have water only fasted many times, though not recently. The forum I used to frequent had many practicing fasters for all sorts of maladies. Fatty liver/alcoholism recovery was one that was treated through the mechanism of fasting. It is not a cure all and can be a painful process as it can induce rapid detox and repair process, but once you can read your body and have  faith in its ablilty to heal itself, with a little discernment  and perseverance your body will deal with most things which are generally as you say an affliction of western lifestyle habits,  particularly that of industrial farming and processed foods.

I am not an advocate of any one modality of living. For me it seems that intelligent balance is the key and how good we are at self observation or observation in others but that can be problematic & subjective. I try not to rule out any persepctive & rather attempt to learn from as many as I can within my limitations. We all reserve the right to be right and wrong without exception as it is the best way to learn.

 

One perspective that I have evolved over time is the importance of minerals and how the body facilitates efficient utilisation.

Minerals are ostensibly the most important factor wrt health since it is clear that that the fabric/structure of our material body is constructed from them. They are the foundation and our health hangs from this structure. Minerals imho should be derived from natural unadulterated sources where possible - something that is increasingly difficult to do as codex alimentarius spreads its influence.  In recent years there has been a nonsensical hyjacking of mineral and vitamin supplementation by the talking-head health advocates that frequent the msm and also the alternative side.

Vitamin D for example is often peddled as a cure all and it is if obtained correctly which again should be from natural sources and most importantly from sunlight.

The underlying cause for most vitamin (hormone) D difficiencies (apart from carcinogenc sunblock creams) is Magnesium deficiency. It is, from what I can tell involved in its internal synthesis. The same for iron deficiencies - Mg is again involved in its utilisation in the body - low Fe indicates low Mg. Magnesium is a key element involved in thousands of bodily processes not least atp energy synthesis. The same with Calcium. Interesting that western diet is very low in Mg.

 

My focus on minerals is because of the perspective that the body is not like a temple but more like a machine with moving parts. If it were like a temple then our health would be easier to deal with! Our body's are always growing, replacing and repairing parts, stealing form one part of the body to facilitate processes or accomodate balances in another part of the body. Most peoples minds reside in the ideation of the idea that once we have grown to adulthood our bodies stop growing but nothing could be further from the truth. We require a constant supply of these building blocks of life throughout our life  - minerals! (plus all co-factors; vitamins, enzymes, probiota and prebiota)

 

I said near the start that I agree with your approach and I do - the western diet is overly acidic, and our lifestyles toxic - increasingly so! Alkalinsing in this environment is likely one of the most effective ways to diminish our toxicities, achieve balance and restore growh.

 

Nutrition is one of those areas that is neglected by almost everyone and yet we are all completely dependant upon it. It is obvious that it is knowledge that should be learned and pursued throughout life and the lack of this in education is a clear indictment of intent by authority esp in the west.

No matter what the approach - a focus on nutrition in all its diversity is a good thing and a lifelong path where we all continually learn from each other!  Many thanks for the thread.

 

 

 

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On 10/6/2020 at 5:59 AM, zarkov said:

Hi Messenger

Just like to add a link to the book the secret life of water. available in amy different dwonlaodable formats - just found it and thought it may be of interest to others - thanks fro the recomendation! - will start reading it soon myself!

https://archive.org/details/thesecretlifeofwaterbymasaruemoto2003

 

I pretty much agree with your thread.

Natural hygiene advocates much of what you put forward. 

Re: water - I have used a distiller now for over 15 yrs. I tend to balance out the minerals by adding some to the water sometimes depending on what I feel like. In a Litre of distilled and ozonated water I might sometimes at a small flake of mag chloride, a tiny pinch of sea salt, a good pinch of MSM (sulphur) and a pinch of bicarbonate. I always enjoy it most when I leave the water in glass jug outside on a sunny day for a few hours and never have tasted water that is so refreshing and tasty and incredibly invigorating. It is almost like a food. I cant touch tap water which turns the stomach. Bottled water is mostly rubbish esp that presented in plastic bottles.

 

Re: Fasting. I have water only fasted many times, though not recently. The forum I used to frequent had many practicing fasters for all sorts of maladies. Fatty liver/alcoholism recovery was one that was treated through the mechanism of fasting. It is not a cure all and can be a painful process as it can induce rapid detox and repair process, but once you can read your body and have  faith in its ablilty to heal itself, with a little discernment  and perseverance your body will deal with most things which are generally as you say an affliction of western lifestyle habits,  particularly that of industrial farming and processed foods.

I am not an advocate of any one modality of living. For me it seems that intelligent balance is the key and how good we are at self observation or observation in others but that can be problematic & subjective. I try not to rule out any persepctive & rather attempt to learn from as many as I can within my limitations. We all reserve the right to be right and wrong without exception as it is the best way to learn.

 

One perspective that I have evolved over time is the importance of minerals and how the body facilitates efficient utilisation.

Minerals are ostensibly the most important factor wrt health since it is clear that that the fabric/structure of our material body is constructed from them. They are the foundation and our health hangs from this structure. Minerals imho should be derived from natural unadulterated sources where possible - something that is increasingly difficult to do as codex alimentarius spreads its influence.  In recent years there has been a nonsensical hyjacking of mineral and vitamin supplementation by the talking-head health advocates that frequent the msm and also the alternative side.

 

Vitamin D for example is often peddled as a cure all and it is if obtained correctly which again should be from natural sources and most importantly from sunlight.

 

The underlying cause for most vitamin (hormone) D difficiencies (apart from carcinogenc sunblock creams) is Magnesium deficiency. It is, from what I can tell involved in its internal synthesis. The same for iron deficiencies - Mg is again involved in its utilisation in the body - low Fe indicates low Mg. Magnesium is a key element involved in thousands of bodily processes not least atp energy synthesis. The same with Calcium. Interesting that western diet is very low in Mg.

 

My focus on minerals is because of the perspective that the body is not like a temple but more like a machine with moving parts. If it were like a temple then our health would be easier to deal with! Our body's are always growing, replacing and repairing parts, stealing form one part of the body to facilitate processes or accomodate balances in another part of the body. Most peoples minds reside in the ideation of the idea that once we have grown to adulthood our bodies stop growing but nothing could be further from the truth. We require a constant supply of these building blocks of life throughout our life  - minerals! (plus all co-factors; vitamins, enzymes, probiota and prebiota)

 

I said near the start that I agree with your approach and I do - the western diet is overly acidic, and our lifestyles toxic - increasingly so! Alkalinsing in this environment is likely one of the most effective ways to diminish our toxicities, achieve balance and restore growh.

 

Nutrition is one of those areas that is neglected by almost everyone and yet we are all completely dependant upon it. It is obvious that it is knowledge that should be learned and pursued throughout life and the lack of this in education is a clear indictment of intent by authority esp in the west.

No matter what the approach - a focus on nutrition in all its diversity is a good thing and a lifelong path where we all continually learn from each other!  Many thanks for the thread.

 

 

 

@zarkov my friend, thank you for stopping by and contributing your experiences and knowledge, I appreciate it. 🙏

 

I agree too pretty much with everything you mentioned.

 

I have not tried distilled water but I do double filter the tap water here which is atrocious and loaded with crap. I have a Berkey water filter container which uses two charcoal cylinders to filter out junk, but it doesn't get the fluoride or some other toxins as the water still has white stuff floating in it after, so then I filter that water with a Brita filter and then it seems safe to drink. I should probably have it tested.

 

At that point I add Magnesium drops to my water, but I like your idea of adding other minerals.

 

I like your idea of leaving the water in the sun too, and I will try it. I have done this before but unconsciously when I happened to leave my glass water bottle in the car and the sun was on it.

 

I agree, our bodies are complex machines constantly repairing parts to balance health.

 

I have never tried fasting, I have not felt like I needed to but I am certainly not against people doing it for their own reasons.

 

Thanks for the information. :classic_cool:

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@zarkov my friend, thank you for stopping by and contributing your experiences and knowledge, I appreciate it. 🙏

 

I agree too pretty much with everything you mentioned.

 

I have not tried distilled water but I do double filter the tap water here which is atrocious and loaded with crap. I have a Berkey water filter container which uses two charcoal cylinders to filter out junk, but it doesn't get the fluoride or some other toxins as the water still has white stuff floating in it after, so then I filter that water with a Brita filter and then it seems safe to drink. I should probably have it tested.

 

At that point I add Magnesium drops to my water, but I like your idea of adding other minerals.

 

I like your idea of leaving the water in the sun too, and I will try it. I have done this before but unconsciously when I happened to leave my glass water bottle in the car and the sun was on it.

 

I agree, our bodies are complex machines constantly repairing parts to balance health.

 

I have never tried fasting, I have not felt like I needed to but I am certainly not against people doing it for their own reasons.

 

Thanks for the information. :classic_cool:

Hi Mesenger, Thanks for entertaining my post in the spirit in which it was intended. I certainly dont want to detract from your overall content promoting an alkaline diet in the face of a predominantly acidic cultural eating habit. Overall - you present welcome balance in the health multiplex.

& thanks for your recommendation of the book The secret life of water - Around 1/3 the way through and compelling reading! Very enjoyable and resonates (no pun intended!) I've come across a little of the info before plus many homeopathy articles centre around water memory too. I like the idea that Dr's like Thomas Cowan take water into account and attribute importance to its qualities and include its potentia in their prognosis and potential.

A decade or more ago I read some obscure web citations from russian research scientists referencing wave genetics, and what struck was the parallels with water information memory retention, there wasn't much inference but it appears water is an integral componant that coalesces with protiens and even when dried retains information via the formed crystaline structure.

I wont be surprised if water eventually figures in computing or qauntum computing at some point!.

 

Re: Fasting https://soilandhealth.org/alternative-medicine-by-author/ is an interesting website to reference  particularly the articles/books by Herbert Shelton, bearing in mind that he does present some antiquated views on rare occasions.

 

 

I wouldnt be surprised if you have come across Dr Sircus and his treatments for cancers using sodium bacarbonate too.  Interesting reading if you havent and you find the time.

https://drsircus.com/sodium-bicarbonate-baking-soda/about-baking-soda/

https://drsircus.com/sodium-bicarbonate-baking-soda/healing-power-baking-soda/

 

or Andreas Moritz   https://www.naturalnews.com/022578_cancer_body_disease.html which is not specifically about alkilinity but adds persepctive to the allopathic approach to cancers and how wrong it appears to be. (apologies for going off topic with the last link!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was going to make a Dr sebi thread to ask what people thought of him but there’s already one here! I know of someone who claims hi so mucus free approach cured him of cancer, I’ve heard his name a few times and now I’m more interested in his ideas. I thought I ate healthy, mostly organic rice, pasta, sometimes green veg, apples, bananas, oranges and thing like lentils, split peas, Chick peas, mung beans, kidney beans, I was surprised to see dr sebi didn’t recommend most of these grains and beans, any ideas why? Are they not alkaline enough or something? They are organic and full of nutrients 

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