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I must admit I'm quite surprised some people are panicking about a second lockdown. I know it has an adverse effect on businesses and I empathise with that but on a personal level in terms of restrict

This is my view as well.  If more people took this attitude, the state would be powerless.  

I'm in Latvia where there is no lockdown, no mask madness, no hysteria, just pretty much life as normal. Even at the height of the scamdemic in the early summer,  it was largely lip-service being paid

10 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

Imagine you were a civilian living in Germany in 1939 and you knew what was coming , what would you do if you had the option to escape  ??? Would you stay and fight Hitler politically? Go underground in Germany and join the resistance ? escape to UK and join the UK army , or escape to the US? 

 

The first three options you are still playing the nightmare  game the controllers have created , .... Much better go to the US  to distance yourself from the madness , not fight on either side ... Those in Germany were mesmerized by the mind control of Hitler , just like the mask wearers of today are mesmerized , they can't be helped , the mass of people are compliant .

 

So the sane ones need to protect their situation , get food in and get somewhere safe . Because this is just the start . They have laid out their game plan , food shortage , rationing , vaccination . When your food runs out , you will have to go to the government for your ration , only for those up to date with their vaccination....

 

The game is to stay alive as long as possible so you can Pray for Divine Intervention  ....

 

But it's too late for most to up and emigrate , you would need at least $50,000 to survive .... I doubt if Robin, like most , has got the price of the air ticket. 

 

We are not in a world war or fighting Hitler and this has nothing to do with the simple question I asked. If I wanted a lecture on world history I would have asked. I am moving to a place that grows its own food and has abundant wildlife. Here we have trucked in food in the main. BTW your assumptions about me are ridiculous, you have no idea what I do or dont have or my age. Your comments are patronising and uncalled for.

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50 minutes ago, metak88 said:

 

I'm a bit late to discussion, please link where he says that!?

 

 Christ there are some whacko people on this forum. I asked a simple, serious, question: If a new lockdown happens and I cant get out before that ( Im selling property) then how else could I get out? I looked at the tunnel but it was shut  for 'non essential' travel last time. If flights are grounded, then what other options are there?

 

I dont have any children and Im not a child myself, Ive ran a business for 20+ years. I wish to move out of the UK to have a sustainable eco type lifestyle, some folks seem to be offended that Im leaving and feel its fine to lecture me about staying, and make wild assumptions about my age or experience. 

 

So, if anyone can answer that question Id be happy to have the discussion with sensible people/ suggestions such as the guy who offered a boat ride and advice about checking boat forums.

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On 9/21/2020 at 1:24 PM, RobinJ said:

This is a serious question. I want to leave UK in the next month. If airports get locked down again how do we get off the island? Does anyone know if the channel tunnel was closed down straight away last time? I live by the sea but dont own a boat or know how to sail one. Does anyone have any contacts to get people out?

Uk Column mentioned yesterday (weds) that many people are migrating from uk. They said they will be discussing this in a future programme. They are live every Mon, Weds and Friday. You can see all other programmes on their site. Be interesting to know where everyone is going.

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13 minutes ago, Rachel Underhill said:

Uk Column mentioned yesterday (weds) that many people are migrating from uk. They said they will be discussing this in a future programme. They are live every Mon, Weds and Friday. You can see all other programmes on their site. Be interesting to know where everyone is going.

 

Thank you I will check that out. I personally know that many are heading to Mexico, C America, and also Eastern Europe ( which is ironic!) But its in the news today that food shortages are bringing on mass migration again. Then theres a heck of a lot of Americans and Canadians trying to get out from under the increasingly oppressive conditions. For me its more about a sustainable lifestyle than just getting out per se.

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1 hour ago, RobinJ said:

 

Thank you I will check that out. I personally know that many are heading to Mexico, C America, and also Eastern Europe ( which is ironic!) But its in the news today that food shortages are bringing on mass migration again. Then theres a heck of a lot of Americans and Canadians trying to get out from under the increasingly oppressive conditions. For me its more about a sustainable lifestyle than just getting out per se.

 

Yes, as I said earlier, my son is now in Mexico... the food is as you say grown locally for the most part. I was there last year and many places are very peaceful and have a good but basic lifestyle. Weather is better than UK or Canada. Maybe thats what the PTB want...everyone to get out so they can set up shop?

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1 minute ago, RobinJ said:

Beaujangles : yeah maybe so eh? Who knows. I only want to have a peaceful existence away from increasing tyranny and bonkers rules while we see how this all plays out. Where in Mexico did he choose?

 

He moves between a couple of areas. There is the area in the mountains south of Guadalajara or in the Guanajuato province.  Also if you prefer ocean side, then the area outside of the resorts south of Cancun across from Cozumel. It is a good idea to learn Spanish, unless you have already. Even the basics. The area south of Mazatlan too... but my sons preferences are the first two I mentioned...depending on mountainous or ocean preferences. Many people go there and travel via hostels, no age barrier. My son said there is a 70 year old lady who does the hostel circuit.

 

You can also bargain with locals for a room... which can bring about some very nice places to stay. My son loves it!

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On 9/22/2020 at 10:54 AM, bamboozooka said:

mainland orkney is a start.

many islands with low population and many uninhabited just a boat ride away.

orkney is trying to get independence from scotland like the shetlands

 

If the boats stop coming with supplies those people would die pretty quickly though wouldn't they?

 

Where do they get the power to heat their homes from?

 

Unless they're still cutting peat to keep warm.....

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15 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

If the boats stop coming with supplies those people would die pretty quickly though wouldn't they?

 

Where do they get the power to heat their homes from?

 

Unless they're still cutting peat to keep warm.....

 

Hmm orkney is a tad wild and cold for me! Good points about the boats, but, this does not tell me HOW to get out of the UK if things go bad again.

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23 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

 

Hmm orkney is a tad wild and cold for me! Good points about the boats, but, this does not tell me HOW to get out of the UK if things go bad again.

 

If things get really bad in the UK you won't be able to get out, that's the point.....

 

Point is to get out BEFORE things get bad. Obvious.

 

But admittedly that requires a certain amount of personal agency and situational awareness.

 

You've got to be able to see trouble coming....... I'm kinda pissed off because I am hoping to come home for Christmas to see my folks. Have bought a load of fine English sparkling wines and some nice Loire reds....... 

 

They should have just let the thing run its course..... Now this thing will never go away and I'll never be able to get back home to see my parents.

 

 

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On 9/24/2020 at 1:45 AM, oz93666 said:

 

Imagine you were a civilian living in Germany in 1939 and you knew what was coming , what would you do if you had the option to escape  ??? Would you stay and fight Hitler politically? Go underground in Germany and join the resistance ? escape to UK and join the UK army , or escape to the US? 

 

 

 

I'm not sure that the comparison is apt. When people heard the thunderous roar of jackboots coming down the streets and the doors crashing in, they knew what there destiny was. It's nothing like that kind of situation in 2020. 

We can fight just using our computers and getting together (without authorities knowing of course.) The shops are still full of goods and we have power and if the army do arrive, they won't be as ruthless as the Nazis. .  

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17 hours ago, allymisfit said:

Wow, you're a delightful Ray of sunshine, aren't you DerProfessor?

 

I'm not actually Polish, I just have lot of Polish friends.

I've rarely come across any anti-british Poles. I know they exist, but they've never once bothered me. In the UK there is the same problem here (anti-Poles). 

However, I don't have a problem. I've learned a lot from the Polish culture. I'd much rather be a part of their society than in the UK..let's put it that way.

UK and Poland have a lot of friendly history together.. let's just see where things go from here.

 

I'm not sure I understood that Ally. Why would anti- British Poles bother you if you say you are not Polish? If you've learned a lot from Polish culture the I assume you can speak the language and since Polish is only spoken in Poland I can't imagine you being an Englishman fluent in Polish. 

I'm actually one of those Anti-British Poles but I don't think about it much since I moved away from London. I'll write about my experiences with Poles in London one day but it won't be pretty.  

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42 minutes ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

 

I'm not sure that the comparison is apt. When people heard the thunderous roar of jackboots coming down the streets and the doors crashing in, they knew what there destiny was. It's nothing like that kind of situation in 2020. 

We can fight just using our computers and getting together (without authorities knowing of course.) The shops are still full of goods and we have power and if the army do arrive, they won't be as ruthless as the Nazis. .  

 

The army won't be as ruthless ,but  they will believe they're protecting public good when they enforce vaccination . 

 

I'm not expecting the tyranny to be imposed in the same way , but our situation is much more dire .... what they have planned is economic collapse , food shortage , riots , vaccinations , ET invasion with advanced craft firing on cities and finally a clone army to exterminate those left ...

 

There is no way to fight this , except prayer , and to get out of the kill zones (populated areas ) 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

 

I'm not sure I understood that Ally. Why would anti- British Poles bother you if you say you are not Polish? If you've learned a lot from Polish culture the I assume you can speak the language and since Polish is only spoken in Poland I can't imagine you being an Englishman fluent in Polish. 

I'm actually one of those Anti-British Poles but I don't think about it much since I moved away from London. I'll write about my experiences with Poles in London one day but it won't be pretty.  

Hi there,

 

They don't bother me 🙂 that's the thing. I never said anyone had bothered me.

 

I do speak some Polish actually! I'm not fluent, no. I've never been fluent in another language as I struggle a lot.

My daughter is half Polish actually. So learning a lot with her.

 

I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience in London. I have barely stepped foot there, so I wouldn't know half of it. Cities give me terrible anxiety.

 

All I can say is my experiences with Poles has always been a good one. I've never met kinder people who have taken me in as family more than my own.

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19 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

If things get really bad in the UK you won't be able to get out, that's the point.....

 

Point is to get out BEFORE things get bad. Obvious.

 

But admittedly that requires a certain amount of personal agency and situational awareness.

 

Quite, this is my thinking.I put plans in motion to get out of UK way back in May, but I can only plan for the potential 'escape' money I can get hold of, I cant plan for if govts shut ATM's or food production, flights, trains, etc. Im almost ready now, but I would have liked to have been gone by now. We cant liken this situation to Germany or any other point in history because this has never happened in our lifetimes before so we really dont have a point of reference, we can only go with what we feel is right for us individually.

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2 hours ago, allymisfit said:

Hi there,

 

They don't bother me 🙂 that's the thing. I never said anyone had bothered me.

 

I do speak some Polish actually! I'm not fluent, no. I've never been fluent in another language as I struggle a lot.

My daughter is half Polish actually. So learning a lot with her.

 

I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience in London. I have barely stepped foot there, so I wouldn't know half of it. Cities give me terrible anxiety.

 

All I can say is my experiences with Poles has always been a good one. I've never met kinder people who have taken me in as family more than my own.

 

People have a habit of making wild assumptions about other folk. Non of it is relevant to the question of HOW to get out if things shut down too soon for my plans in progress to complete. All I know is that I dont want to get stuck on a tiny island with nowhere to hide and an increasingly stringent system of control to live under.

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21 hours ago, Rachel Underhill said:

Uk Column mentioned yesterday (weds) that many people are migrating from uk. They said they will be discussing this in a future programme. They are live every Mon, Weds and Friday. You can see all other programmes on their site. Be interesting to know where everyone is going.

 

I lived in Slovakia for a year 2018-19 and visited friends in Hungary. The common thoughts are that the West will be repopulated and East Europe will remain white, Christian. It's incredibly peaceful compared to the chaos in the West but I'm not so sure those people will take too kindly to being invaded.   

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3 minutes ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

 

I lived in Slovakia for a year 2018-19 and visited friends in Hungary. The common thoughts are that the West will be repopulated and East Europe will remain white, Christian. It's incredibly peaceful compared to the chaos in the West but I'm not so sure those people will take too kindly to being invaded.   

 

I have read elsewhere that Hungary is not really enforcing any covid crap. There is a group setting up an off grid project in Hungary that i know of too.

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Just now, RobinJ said:

 

I have read elsewhere that Hungary is not really enforcing any covid crap. There is a group setting up an off grid project in Hungary that i know of too.

 

There are plenty of people from Germany and Britain who have settled over there in small clusters because property was so incredibly cheap and Orban is extremely anti-immigration. Apart from local societal issues (drunk driving, domestics etc, there is virtually no crime - at least in Slovakia.) 

Many people were lucky enough to sell up and buy a home with massive grounds to grow food in a rural area for less than  £40,000. It gets to some people and they become bored and lonely. They are part of the EU and you can see all the new buses and trains etc but the pressure to start importing immigrants has always been there.  These people see what's happening in the West and they definitely don't like 'people of colour'. You may be quite shocked at first at the hostile language concerning immigrants.      

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34 minutes ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

 

There are plenty of people from Germany and Britain who have settled over there in small clusters because property was so incredibly cheap and Orban is extremely anti-immigration. Apart from local societal issues (drunk driving, domestics etc, there is virtually no crime - at least in Slovakia.) 

Many people were lucky enough to sell up and buy a home with massive grounds to grow food in a rural area for less than  £40,000. It gets to some people and they become bored and lonely. They are part of the EU and you can see all the new buses and trains etc but the pressure to start importing immigrants has always been there.  These people see what's happening in the West and they definitely don't like 'people of colour'. You may be quite shocked at first at the hostile language concerning immigrants.      

Interesting info. Im not planning on going to E Europe. Im hoping to head to Mexico & C or S Americas assuming we can still travel...!

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2 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Quite, this is my thinking.I put plans in motion to get out of UK way back in May, but I can only plan for the potential 'escape' money I can get hold of, I cant plan for if govts shut ATM's or food production, flights, trains, etc. Im almost ready now, but I would have liked to have been gone by now. We cant liken this situation to Germany or any other point in history because this has never happened in our lifetimes before so we really dont have a point of reference, we can only go with what we feel is right for us individually.

I wouldn't recommend the boat route  Robin. You may get picked up by border patrol who would just escort you to Dover to some holding establishment for months, amid your protestations of being English, leaving you a lot worse off than when you set off. (You may be lucky though and be housed in a 4 star hotel with only Nigel Farage and his camera to worry about sneaking up on you and trying to peer through your bedroom window.)

 

There's always hang gliding off Beach Head if the wind was up and you were confident enough or you could try sneaking on to a military base and climbing into a cargo plane's undercarriage where the wheels are located like the guy in the old Cadbury's Milk Tray advert.

This has been the preferred transportation  of choice for many young and ambitious African men wishing to better their lives and enter the UK but it does have its minor downsides such as the guy who who lost his grip while he was waving and  cheering at the green fields below. The excitement overwhelmed him as the wheels descended causing him to plummet into a garden in Clapham, London with such an awful thud just six feet away from the poor home owner trying to enjoy to enjoy his newspaper and pina colada while sun bathing in his garden. No one should have to put up with that.  

The airline company did compensate him for damage to his cultivated rockery and filled in the hole caused by the thoughtless miscreant. All's well that ends well I guess!

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32 minutes ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

I wouldn't recommend the boat route  Robin. You may get picked up by border patrol who would just escort you to Dover to some holding establishment for months, amid your protestations of being English, leaving you a lot worse off than when you set off. (You may be lucky though and be housed in a 4 star hotel with only Nigel Farage and his camera to worry about sneaking up on you and trying to peer through your bedroom window.)

 

There's always hang gliding off Beach Head if the wind was up and you were confident enough or you could try sneaking on to a military base and climbing into a cargo plane's undercarriage where the wheels are located like the guy in the old Cadbury's Milk Tray advert.

This has been the preferred transportation  of choice for many young and ambitious African men wishing to better their lives and enter the UK but it does have its minor downsides such as the guy who who lost his grip while he was waving and  cheering at the green fields below. The excitement overwhelmed him as the wheels descended causing him to plummet into a garden in Clapham, London with such an awful thud just six feet away from the poor home owner trying to enjoy to enjoy his newspaper and pina colada while sun bathing in his garden. No one should have to put up with that.  

The airline company did compensate him for damage to his cultivated rockery and filled in the hole caused by the thoughtless miscreant. All's well that ends well I guess!

 

Yeah well, a flight will probably still be available if things go to (my) plan. I dont base decisions on what 'might happen' via a negative mindset. There's always a way out if you need one. Everything is a matter of perspective.

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