Seeker Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Please correct me if I’m wrong at any point, but from what I understand WW2 was created by the elite, some elite bankers, who funded both sides and therefore controlled the outcome. As the goal is global tyranny, why didn’t they just let the Nazi’s win WW2? If all countries are controlled by the cult, which I don’t doubt they are, why didn’t they let them win, surely it would have saved lots of time and hassle. The other interesting thing as well is how the Nazi’s continued to serve the cult in various ways, like project paperclip, one working for the United Nations etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 because they were the "bad ones" and officialy good guys always win,so they can cover up that they are equally bad.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 My understanding is as follows .... The controllers are the coalition of malevolent ET's ..... they want death torture and mayhem ...and ideally total enslavement of Mankind .... They would start things moving .... impulse western bankers to fund Hitler .... Impulse the UK to be complacent and not be allerted by Germany's weapons build up .... impulse(mind influence ) Chamberlain to believe he had a peace treaty with Hitler ... all to allow Hitler time to build up forces so there would be a good fight .... So Churchill and those fighting Hitler were doing their best to win .... Churchill does not want to see England overrun by NAZI's ...and no one could predict the result , not even the ET's. The Divine realm would be trying to help , but the extent of this is determined by prayer from humans involved.... After the war the important NAZI engineers and scientists went off to Antarctica , 3rd rate ones were scooped up by paperclip , these were serving their own interests and had to work for the US It's the same today ... it's a mistake to think china and most countries of the world are working with the West on a united plan with covid .... they are separate competing entities ... they follow their own interests , and mind influence of politicians is a big factor to stir up conflict and war between countries . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Seeker said: As the goal is global tyranny, why didn’t they just let the Nazi’s win WW2? Because we're not moving into NatSoc world order, we're moving into a neoliberal one. National Socialists are history, but we will never be allowed to forget them because they are used as an example of why Europeans shouldn't fight for our own well-being again. We must not even contemplate turning on international hyenas by creating our own currency to bypass their usurious bs ever again because that would mean we're like muh eViL nAZis. We're trapped like caged animals, waiting for the modern day Genrikh Yagoda to feck us over. Peoples views of moustache man are a sensitive topic, but the average person back then was right to be scared of Bolshevism. The mass rape of Germany will look like amateur hour when they have finished with us. Thank Winston, the bloody degenerate drunk. No more brother wars! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) We fought for Kalergi's dream. At least we're not speaking German though. /s I'm just waiting for the real chaos to begin. That will be when the silly tatted up, lager lout, bulldog nationalists discover that our ancestors never fought for our interests. They fought so we could be conquered today. Edited September 19, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, oz93666 said: It's the same today ... it's a mistake to think china and most countries of the world are working with the West on a united plan with covid .... they are separate competing entities ... they follow their own interests Not necessarily. It doesn't take much digging to see who financed the great leap backwards in China, or who has been giving them our tech. I think it would be a mistake to think they're not ruled by the same cabal. I think this is one of the reasons for the Golden Shield, so Westerners and the Chinese can't easily network and talk about who runs our nations. Edited September 19, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I think these ideas go too far ... when you feel this powerless, it is indulgent. Not everything is bad, not everything is controlled, not everything is a lie. You can see this practically by going into the garden and doing some weeding and looking after the plants and trees. - was that evil ? where you controlled by a dark force ? or where you just doing some weeding>? On Earth there are many practical things you can do. Sure you will meet obstacles and dodgy people everywhere, but still you can do something. And if you wish to reach beyond this world for higher assistance then just do that ... many people do, many people have, and many people have been helped. If you keep fantasising about how bad everything is, it just goes too far and it's a kind of miserable suicide. Get some fresh air. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Not necessarily. It doesn't take much digging to see who financed the great leap backwards in China, or who has been giving them our tech. I think it would be a mistake to think they're not ruled by the same cabal. I think this is one of the reasons for the Golden Shield, so Westerners and the Chinese can't easily network and talk about who runs our nations. Yes ... the West certainly were involved in that leap that resulted in 50 million starving to death ... The CIA do help put despots in control of other countries , like Mao , or Sandam Husain .They think destroying other countries keeps the US as the dominant world power ... but Mao and Husain are not "ruled by the cabal" ... they will take help from the US and are independent , but must be expecting a double cross at any moment.... US does appear to have struck a deal with China on covid ... they probably said to China... " you start covid in your country , it will spread to the west , we can both use it to clamp control on our populations" ... very hard to know ... they may have planned WWIII together , as tensions mount with the US telling the public China engineered covid and blaming them for the coming collapse ...neither side will trust the other ... behind it all are the ET's mind manipulating the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, rideforever said: Get some fresh air. Before they start taxing the crap out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Not necessarily. It doesn't take much digging to see who financed the great leap backwards in China, or who has been giving them our tech. I think it would be a mistake to think they're not ruled by the same cabal. I think this is one of the reasons for the Golden Shield, so Westerners and the Chinese can't easily network and talk about who runs our nations. Occult secrets of Judaism. It's all linked to Lurianic Kabbalah one way or another. Chabbad et al. Banned by Amazon https://www.bitchute.com/video/tOyfxRy0ebE/ Edited September 19, 2020 by Golden Retriever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) I don't believe that either side actually "won" except for those who funded Hitler to power which of course was the bank cartel. I think it was a draw due to such advanced tech found on both sides. Hitler and his scientists built die Glocke and the Haunebu. I have no guess as to what the US had since Roswell didn't happen until 1946 or 47 but they had Tesla tech and experience from the Philadelphia experiment as I mentioned in the other thread. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_vril08.htm https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_humanitymanipulationalien20.htm https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_germany.htm Then there is this book which I have not read yet but would very much like to. If you ask the Japanese today, many would say that WWII never ended. Edited September 26, 2020 by Messenger forgot to add the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Seeker, I'm not sure if you're a reader or a listener but here is an amazing presentation by Al Bielek who was involved in the Philadelphia Experiment. I believe he also knew Phil Schneider or his father, Phil being one of the guys who helped build some of the underground bases and whom was allegedly involved in a fire fight with grey aliens. Fascinating stuff that has been hidden from the public. People always say, there could be no conspiracy large enough such as corona or 9-11 or whatever because so many people would have to be in on it. Well, there ARE that many people in on it, and then there are the ignorant people who simply follow orders and don't ask questions and that is much of the education system and the mainstream media. Imagine if the EDU system and MSM never said anything about the Philadelphia experiment, and if it ever came up they ridiculed those who spoke about it so badly that the persons life and career were ruined. That's exactly how topics such as this remain in the dark for decades, people are too afraid to speak, or those whom have are long gone and the "teachers" of today are oblivious puppets. AL BIELEK THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) ^^^ Fascinating story from someone who was actually there .... Tesla and Einstein were involved . The Philadelphia Experiment was an attempt to make a battleship invisible , but ended up teleporting it and killing many of the crew .... Above video is quiet technical , suited for scientists and engineers , goes into great detail of how it was done. This shows the type of tech the secret government were involved with over 80 Years ago .... This advanced tech all went off world into the SSP by 1960 to keep it well isolated from the surface population ... Edited September 26, 2020 by oz93666 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Messenger said: AL BIELEK THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT Yes I have seen about half of this and need to finish it off. I’ve never looked into this guys work but seen he has videos about other top secret projects I’d like to learn more about, thank you for reminding me. I watch these sort of videos to get me through my shifts and sometimes I have to actually do work and then forget to finish them as I find a new one to watch the next day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Messenger said: If you ask the Japanese today, many would say that WWII never ended. Physical removal (in Minecraft) now, while there is still time to restore your honour, Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 18 hours ago, oz93666 said: ^^^ Fascinating story from someone who was actually there .... Tesla and Einstein were involved . The Philadelphia Experiment was an attempt to make a battleship invisible , but ended up teleporting it and killing many of the crew .... Above video is quiet technical , suited for scientists and engineers , goes into great detail of how it was done. This shows the type of tech the secret government were involved with over 80 Years ago .... This advanced tech all went off world into the SSP by 1960 to keep it well isolated from the surface population ... Exactly Oz, this is what I have been trying to say all along. Distractions as large as corona and 9-11 and Sandy hook, and all the others plus sports/motorsports and TV shows and movies is how they have kept it hidden so well for so long. @Seeker I made it to about 35 minutes and my mind was blown again. I've listened to that interview years ago but revisiting these interviews I always learn more the second or third time that I missed the first. After the 35 minutes I jumped over to David Icke and Arizona Wilder. That's another good one. A lot of this stuff has to do with frequency and energy which is what the cabal are always trying to hide (and how they hide). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 1:18 PM, Seeker said: Please correct me if I’m wrong at any point, but from what I understand WW2 was created by the elite, some elite bankers, who funded both sides and therefore controlled the outcome. As the goal is global tyranny, why didn’t they just let the Nazi’s win WW2? If all countries are controlled by the cult, which I don’t doubt they are, why didn’t they let them win, surely it would have saved lots of time and hassle. The other interesting thing as well is how the Nazi’s continued to serve the cult in various ways, like project paperclip, one working for the United Nations etc Hitler rolled across Europe with trucks that had ford motors their air force required a fuel additive called tetra ethyl lead for their engines ,the only company that was producing that at that time was Mobil oil what dose that tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, peter said: Hitler rolled across Europe with trucks that had ford Not surprising considering Henry Ford's views. 11 minutes ago, peter said: Hitler rolled across Europe with trucks that had ford motors their air force required a fuel additive called tetra ethyl lead for their engines ,the only company that was producing that at that time was Mobil oil what dose that tell you Many companies were both in Europe and the US, but were often independent in Europe. I haven't looked into Mobil, but a lot of transactions were done through neutral countries. It's possible that Germany was built up just to be destroyed too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 2:40 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: We fought for Kalergi's dream. At least we're not speaking German though. /s I'm just waiting for the real chaos to begin. That will be when the silly tatted up, lager lout, bulldog nationalists discover that our ancestors never fought for our interests. They fought so we could be conquered today. This. Been a hard revelation for me. You walk around thinking you are relatively awake and then you realise after years of programming one of the biggest lies. And quite heartbreaking too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hitler and Germany was not controlled opposition. Hitler and Germany was actual opposition. The synogogue of satan and their puppets had control of Germany, before Hitler's rise, he and the National Socialists were a response to the destruction of the culture and nation that was being perpetrated. I don't give a shit if there was some "wall street" money sent that way, that doesn't mean they owned Hitler or controlled him. Things were going just dandy in Germany for the globalist-talmudist elite, until Hitler came to power... then they saw a serious threat and declared war on Germany with their controlled and duped govts in UK and USA along with Uncle Joe Stalin. It's a fact. Either the "jews" denounce and dissociate from the idea of separatism, supremacism, and a state within a state ,and assimilate the host countrie's values and principles,,, or,,,, get the fuck out,,, that means any of you that come here or were born here. Subversives,,, GET THE FUCK OUT! Listen to National Socialist speeches available with subtitles, on bitchute... you will be able,, if you have any honest Spirit left,, to realize they were not monsters or power-mad nutcases, they and Hitler GENUINELY cared for the people, and the nation, and RESPECTED the rights of other nations to the extent they respected others. And I don't care if they didn't do it perfectly, geuss what?, it's not a perfect world!,, so don't bother telling me about this or that evil or somesuch wrong-doing,,,, whatever it was it was, and is, miniscule compared to what the synogogue of satan and it's puppet govts perpetrated directly or indirectly. on humanity. And it continues today... THERE WERE NO EXTERMINATION GAS CHAMBERS. THERE WAS NO POLICY OF EXTERMINATION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Screw it. I'll have to leave it, this world. It's the world of predators and prey and parasites and hosts. Alien World. The illusion David Icke talks about. It's illusion because it's based on false principles and premises. God-Love did not Create this world. It is what it is. They can have it. The Truth sets us Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Im not going into details so liars can reframe reality but edges of history which have not been whitewashed suggest the holocaust was going on 3 years before hitler was elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.” ( T-In.2:1-4 ) https://acim.org/about-acim/what-it-says/ Edited October 29, 2020 by novymir fixed link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 5:35 PM, novymir said: Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. so the reverse of 'real' isn't 'fake', 'real' just has no reverse... what's not real isn't... I sometimes said here that reality can't be questioned... and it never was questioned... we now got a proof that reality may be threatened though and bad if you get to have people lose their senses... chemicals, aspartame and home 'cleaning' products, processed food, movies and the MEDIA, all has been done to deprive people from their senses both physically and mentally... people couldn't have taken air pollution, bad food or cheap hoaxes otherwise, they had to get sterilized and synthesized for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, chud said: so the reverse of 'real' isn't 'fake', 'real' just has no reverse... what's not real isn't... I sometimes said here that reality can't be questioned... and it never was questioned... we now got a proof that reality may be threatened though and bad if you get to have people lose their senses... chemicals, aspartame and home 'cleaning' products, processed food, movies and the MEDIA, all has been done to deprive people from their senses both physically and mentally... people couldn't have taken air pollution, bad food or cheap hoaxes otherwise, they had to get sterilized and synthesized for it... Illusion. People so deeply immersed in and identified with illusion( dream ), become at the mercy of it, they unwittingly give power over to it, elements within it exploit and abuse others because they themselves are caught in it and misidentifying themselves and what they believe is "reality". It's not. Illusion isn't what it appears to be, it's a veil, it obscures or paints a picture in perception of something that is nothing and nowhere, except within the mind of the perceiver, based on the dominant system of belief operating in their mind. We're all projectors. Edited October 31, 2020 by novymir typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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