What sort of diet do we eat?

[Seeker]

Foods, how many meals a day, fasting etc, what suits you? 

 

For me I’ve been weight lifting since I was a teenager so it was 6 high protein meals a day, decent carbs and I personally went for high levels of healthy fats too. As gyms have been closed for most of the year I’m feeling it’s time to move on from this lifestyle. A freak injury was the final clear message from the universe. To be honest eating is the bane of my life, so I am tempted to try the 16/8 intermittent fasting, somehow cramming 3000 calories in and training during that 8 hour period. My aim is still to stay in shape and lean. Does anyone here also fit a workout around their diet? 

[Michi713]

I don’t like to eat much either.

Been doing the diet from Grain Brain for almost a year:

no bread, corn, rice, sugar, very little fruit.  
Lots of eggs, nuts, avocados, olives, coconut oil.

Fast sometimes to give the digestive system a rest.  

I do the elliptical only at the gym, no body building.  Don’t need many calories bc I’m little. 

 

My husband has tried every diet.  Now he intermittent fasts, does BCAA amino acid powder and workout boost stuff.  He is happier and leaner but craves donuts and stuff now and then. 
 

[rideforever]

I used to do a lot of high impact exercise before a worrying injury brought it all to an end.

I have tried all sorts of diets and fasts, but in the end you see how desperate all this crap is.

Who are you trying to prove yourself to?

Exercise wise, beefing yourself up does not make you a man, just like to Swarzenegger backstage talking to his buddies about how much oil they should put on their pecs to look the best in photos. ffs

Much to learn.

If you pressurise your body you will have a horrible 2nd half of your life.  Likewise with food.

Simple efficient low residue uncomplicated un-overthought un-special un-hero ... goes both for food and exercise and life.

 

[Michi713]

Fast to learn what it’s like to not give or receive anything.  Fast to learn what most of the world’s population already knows, and to break the addiction and oral fixation of eating when I’m not hungry. 
 

Diet is to practice self-discipline.  How can I temper any desire if I can’t control what I eat? 

[Seeker]

12 hours ago, Michi713 said:

I don’t like to eat much either.

Been doing the diet from Grain Brain for almost a year:

no bread, corn, rice, sugar, very little fruit.  
Lots of eggs, nuts, avocados, olives, coconut oil.

Fast sometimes to give the digestive system a rest.  

I do the elliptical only at the gym, no body building.  Don’t need many calories bc I’m little. 

 

My husband has tried every diet.  Now he intermittent fasts, does BCAA amino acid powder and workout boost stuff.  He is happier and leaner but craves donuts and stuff now and then. 
 

With his fasting does he eat more, less or the same as before and has he lost muscle as a result? Also you have a nice high healthy fat diet like me

[Seeker]

9 hours ago, rideforever said:

I used to do a lot of high impact exercise before a worrying injury brought it all to an end.

I have tried all sorts of diets and fasts, but in the end you see how desperate all this crap is.

Who are you trying to prove yourself to?

Exercise wise, beefing yourself up does not make you a man, just like to Swarzenegger backstage talking to his buddies about how much oil they should put on their pecs to look the best in photos. ffs

Much to learn.

If you pressurise your body you will have a horrible 2nd half of your life.  Likewise with food.

Simple efficient low residue uncomplicated un-overthought un-special un-hero ... goes both for food and exercise and life.

 

It’s a passion for me, bodybuilding always has been, just like for some people football, rugby, art, singing, writing is their passion, mine was bodybuilding. Not trying to impress anyone, just doing what I enjoy, it gives a natural high where you feel like a god. I got my mate into it and before he was a regular drinker and cocaine user, he says the high from the weight training we were doing was better than cocaine. Obviously with gyms closed for so much I’m looking for something else, exercise and eating healthy makes me feel good so I’m going to keep myself active and healthy until the day I die. 

[Michi713]

19 hours ago, Seeker said:

With his fasting does he eat more, less or the same as before and has he lost muscle as a result? Also you have a nice high healthy fat diet like me

He eats less.  6 feet tall, didn’t lose muscle, that’s kind a last resort after fasting many days, not intermittent.  
 

He makes  juice in the am, banana, chicken salad in the evening.  Breakfast Burrito on work out days.  I don’t even have to make dinner anymore.
 

That sucks they closed your gym.  Can you do CrossFit stuff? 

 

[Seeker]

2 hours ago, Michi713 said:

He eats less.  6 feet tall, didn’t lose muscle, that’s kind a last resort after fasting many days, not intermittent.  
 

He makes  juice in the am, banana, chicken salad in the evening.  Breakfast Burrito on work out days.  I don’t even have to make dinner anymore.
 

That sucks they closed your gym.  Can you do CrossFit stuff? 

 

That’s decent tbf, eating less and not losing gains and it’s been closed for most of the year, will be again soon. I’ve found a nice new routine which is less intense but still challenging, like yoga, sprints, pull ups etc

[ruslanovna]

I gave up all bad habits five years ago. There is no alcohol in my life. When I meet with friends, I can have a non-alcoholic beer or a mojito. Smoking also left me behind - it had planted my lungs enough. I would also like to give up the habit of constantly surfing the Internet, but gradually you have to accustom yourself to this. I try to be outdoors a lot and eat healthy food. I took care of my body, I work on my muscles, I even bought an auxiliary drug in the form of Primobolan injections.

[Reptile hunter]

Just eat low calorie high dense foods, then you can eat the same as usual but keep calories low.

[facere arbitrium]

I don't have any specific advice but I do have some experience with participating in a variety of dietary groups I can talk about. At the moment I need to eat more animal proteins and fats to feel balanced though this isn't the case for everyone. I used to eat a standard junk diet and had a typical junk lifestyle during my invincibility years. Matured and moved on to experimenting with my body to let it teach me what I need. Observed many dietary groups and followed the stories of individuals who recovered from chronic illnesses in these groups. It's through their sickness that they were able to discern what brought them health.

In all groups there was a hierarchy of success with those who saw the most benefit at the top, the middle people who saw some success and the lower ends who saw little to no success. There's a variety of reasons some do better than others most commonly depending on their commitment or just that the particular way of eating is not good for the individual.

Skepticism in all the groups understandably came from those who were unsuccessful or those who where firm believers of science and made it their job to deny the experience of others. They would often reduce the value of others success as anecdotal, pseudoscience or coincidental. I valued the negative experiences of group members as much as the positives since it showed me one size doesn't fit all for a variety of reasons. The more scientifically orientated would often point out potential hazards which they may have perceived as supporting their bias but I saw as beneficial for balance and guidance. There was also the few charlatans that liked to appear to sell or promote something expensive. Sometimes the products themselves weren't too bad but there's always someone around trying to hustle and understandably they need to eat too. It is what it is.

The general consensus in all dietary groups appeared to be that whole foods are best whether the diet was meat, omnivorous or plant based. Processed or refined foods in general are much less beneficial unless there's a particular nutrient micro or macro required from them to be used in a supplemental fashion. Most commonly when there is an acute need or an acute deficiency. (Common sense I know but this appeared to be true universally throughout all dietary groups.)

Cutting away addictions and not overstimulating the nervous system played a key role in assisting recovery or maintaining health. Visible health conditions were often the most compelling since any outsider can physically view improvement. Internal conditions might be best measured by feelings, in terms of satiation, mood, energy and lightness or heaviness, always navigating towards achieving balance in the middle.

Other that all I can say is I support the advice everyone else has given here, and that whatever works should be fun, simple, practical and sustainable for the individual however that looks at any given time. Other holistic pillars for success include mindset, focus, activity and overall stress reduction. Exercise in nature when you can and with a partner or a friend where possible, unless you need some solitude. Only compete with your self, support others with their personal goals and be gentle.

[facere arbitrium]

and sleep lol, I need more of that after writing this :D

[Mountain]

I've been eating very low carb in recent years and very little sugar unless it is from fruit. I drink lots of water and unsweetened tea. Lost weight and wasn't really trying to it just fell off.