WHY Do They HATE Us SO MUCH?

[HistoryIsComplex]

Why do the NWO people HATE US so much that they are literally trying to ENSLAVE us?

 

We paid our taxes, watched their MSM, banked with their stupid banks, used their Credit Cards and spent small fortunes on their CONSUMER PRODUCTS.

 

Precise WHAT did we do WRONG that WARRANTS US BEING TURNED INTO 21st CENTURY SLAVES???

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by HistoryIsComplex

[rideforever]

Young people born into this world are born into a desert.

Previous generations indulged.

At some point there is no connection with the past and revenge ensues.

It is easy to have sympathy.

When the society's elders cannot state clearly what is right and why and stand by whilst rainbows appear, the question is who has the greater problem .

The straight course has been deviated from for a long time.

And this is quite typical of human societies.

[Ethel]

4 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Why do the NWO people HATE US so much that they are literally trying to ENSLAVE us?

 

We paid our taxes, watched their MSM, banked with their stupid banks, used their Credit Cards and spent small fortunes on their CONSUMER PRODUCTS.

 

Precise WHAT did we do WRONG that WARRANTS US BEING TURNED INTO 21st CENTURY SLAVES???

 

 

 

All of the above.

[Messenger]

6 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Why do the NWO people HATE US so much that they are literally trying to ENSLAVE us?

 

We paid our taxes, watched their MSM, banked with their stupid banks, used their Credit Cards and spent small fortunes on their CONSUMER PRODUCTS.

 

Precise WHAT did we do WRONG that WARRANTS US BEING TURNED INTO 21st CENTURY SLAVES???

 

 

People have been enslaved for thousands of years to kings and queens and lords (landlord). The biggest farce in America is that US armed forces fight for freedom. They actually fight for the cabal's ability to keep people enslaved to fiat currency and consumerism (profit) and the two party political ping pong paradigm.

 

Why do you think that most people don't know about Pizzagate and when they hear about it they think it's a "conspiracy theory". Or that most people don't know about the secret space program... and when you tell them that such and such is happening they think you're nuts... because those who are tasked with protecting our freedom and liberty actually don't and are lying to us, and they have been lying to us for decades.

 

What people have done "wrong" is allowing their mind to be stolen/taken over by propaganda (TV/Tel-a-Vision) and their consciousness to remain low from bad "food" (aspartame, fructose, corn syrup, soy, cassava, starch, sugar, etc), violent movies (fear and death lowers the human oscillation rate), fluoridated water, vaccines (mercury/thimerosal, human fetus cells, aluminum, etc). The cabal feel that consciousness is a gift and if a person will not use that gift and take control of their mind and consciousness then they will. It's also about control. Those who do take control of their consciousness and mind are attacked - free thinkers are ostracized, ridiculed, laughed at, until the world descends into chaos and then people start to ask questions when their world is being turned upside down. Why do they wait? They don't listen to people who see it coming, and then when it happens it's too late. Go to any forum and read up and you will see how ignorant people are to what's going on. Not to say that I'm all knowing because I'm not but I've done a ton of research over the last decade, so I'm far more informed than your typical "educated" college degree fool who has been taught fallacies and is now seeing them in action.

 

Also, they are not people. The Anunnaki are highly advanced entities who can create life such as they did with humans. Personally I think they are idiots, Enki or Enlil or whichever one of them decided that it was a good idea to create a worker bee-like species with such a easily corruptible and gullible mind. At least they could have given man and woman a better moral compass so that we don't have murderers and rapists such as hillary clinton, bill clinton, gerald ford, etc in such powerful positions. Henry kissinger, zbignew brzinski (and his daughter who works for MSNBC), etc.

 

Get the book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, it will tell you who is really in power, the human power anyway, because as you work your way up the pyramid you will eventually learn that there are aliens who are also pulling the strings.

[oz93666]

10 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Why do the NWO people HATE US so much that they are literally trying to ENSLAVE us?

 

 

It is ET's who are behind it all , it is they that truly despise humanity ... they play us like a computer game  for  amusement...The ET's have to work hard at corrupting humans  who they get to help them .... even the elite bloodline (rothschild , royalty etc) are often not depraved enough to carry things out , and are often killed and replaced with reptilian shapeshifters ... You will remember the Annunaki are in control here , but allow the reps to join in because of their  very useful shapeshifting ability  ....

 

These malevolent ET's have been doing this sort of thing for millions of years on other planets ... they are experts at it , and unbeatable without Divine intervention . 

 

And that will only come if enough humans ask for it .

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by oz93666

[pi3141]

22 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Why do the NWO people HATE US so much that they are literally trying to ENSLAVE us?

 

Well I believe the conspiracy is Satanic, hence Satan is behind it all and he hates us, as we've been told, and he wants to destroy all that is good and invert it to pervert humanity.

 

Hence the hatred is built in, its what motivates them to destroy and subvert all that is good. The useful idiots who go along with it are just doing so for power and money in this temporary realm.

 

Can't understand why, if you know the devil exists you then know God must exist and your soul really is at risk, yet they still go along with it! Its unbelievable.

[HistoryIsComplex]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

Can't understand why, if you know the devil exists you then know God must exist and your soul really is at risk, yet they still go along with it! Its unbelievable.

 

Scripture says that in the "End Of Days", many will become so self-serving and self-interested that they will not be able to resists ANY TEMPTATION.

 

They will go along with the NWO, until GOD HIMSELF SMACKS SENSE BACK INTO THEM.

[QuodHumana]

there are a million answers to that question

[HistoryIsComplex]

1 hour ago, QuodHumana said:

there are a million answers to that question

 

The biggest one problably being that "THE ELITE BELIEVE THEY ARE GODS" - there is no place for us "MORTALS" in the world when they are "GODS".

[pi3141]

33 minutes ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

 

The biggest one problably being that "THE ELITE BELIEVE THEY ARE GODS" - there is no place for us "MORTALS" in the world when they are "GODS".

 

Thats the Luciferian doctrine as taught by Freemasons, Satanists and New Age philosophies. The whole Earth Goddess is just Paganism repackaged for an 'Enlightened' (or Illuminated again Luciferian) age.

[Truthspoon]

They hate us because the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70AD and massacred the inhabitants during Passover...... They have sworn revenge on all of us from that day.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/bendy-roads-to-gentile-apocalypse-story.html

 

 

Bendy Roads to the Apocalypse: The Story of Punk

 

70AD: The Year Punk Rock and the Pop Apocalypse was born! 

 

It was the year 3830 by Eleazar Ben Simon's reckoning. The cooling bodies, filling every street, sometimes piled as many as four of five high, were so numerous that the dying did not even have their own place to fall. There had been a million people crammed into the city, from every nation and empire of the known world. All come to Holy Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover. But none had been spared, even now the killing continued and there was nothing to celebrate except their own looming extinction.

The Romans had entered the city three days ago, their arms surely wearied from chopping down defenceless pilgrims: old men, the women and children. All around was the sound of sudden screams which reached his ears and now the Romans hacked with a lack of discrimination so as to almost appear disinterested.

To Eleazar Ben Simon it was like the Romans were massacring his people with the gusto of an office clerk. Lazily but with implacable determination.

This has been going on for three days now and peace would come only for lack of more victims.

There were sobs of the fallen and those whimpering and forlorn whom the Romans could not even be bothered to kill, these sounds were accompanied by the gasps of pain of the dying and their final passing gave rise to peace.

The amount of blood could not be believed. As Eleazar, former leader of the Zealots hid himself inside his attic hide-out, surveying with a supreme sense of affront, the carnage the Romans were now wreaking on his city and his people.

At that point, he started to plan. He saw now that it was impossible to ever beat the Westerners in open war. There would have to be another way but it would be a long term project. They had nearly killed his people and possibly they intended to wipe them out altogether, but as long as a remnant could be found, they would work his plan. A plan which would probably bear no fruit even in his lifetime or that of his children, but one day the Westerners would be brought low and his people would reign supreme on the ashes of their civilisation.

But they would not hack the bodies, nor rape the women and burn the holy places. These were not fit tasks for God’s chosen people. They would find others to do these things for them. They would recruit from the Westerners themselves the agents of their own downfall. It all became very clear in Eleazar’s mind, even in the midst of their utmost destruction and greatest loss, he knew that destiny had singled him out to conceive this plan which would stretch far far into the future, far beyond even the Roman’s sight, and would leave his people conquerors of the whole world.

He laughed and slowly muttered to himself over and over, ‘give ‘em enough rope,’ until it became a low chant which seemed to take flight on a sudden breeze above the smoldering, burnt out city. Their revenge would be terrible, more terrible if it were possible than the sight of the butchered men and women blood-staining the streets of the holiest city on Earth. 'Give 'em enough rope!'

 

 

 

He shuddered at the thought of their total subjugation which though remote in time, was already an absolute certainty for him because he knew God would not stand this affront. As he reasoned he concluded that this had all transpired for this very reason, in order to make them the eventual masters over the Earth. The fall of Jerusalem was the first necessary sacrifice. There would no doubt be many more before they achieved their goal.

 

Joe Stummer loves red-terror so much he got the T Shirt. The BR were credited with 14,000 acts of violence in the first ten years of the group's existence.[28] According to statistics by the Ministry of Interior. A total of 75 people are thought to have been murdered by the BR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigades

Nearly two thousand years later the plan formulated by Eleazer Ben Simon while hiding from the Roman holocaust of Jerusalem, had ravished Europe and utterly subjugated the Westerners on all fronts. It had been passed along in time and space with a dedication and devotion which saw the rise and fall of Empires, and remained unchanged and unwavering. First in the ruins of Judea in hiding from the Roman legions, then to Athens or Marseilles, to Moscow, to Portugal then finally to England. The final battle ground in the culture wars where only one side was fighting and the other didn’t even know it was being defeated.

 

 

 

To an impressionable young child, the strange solemn men and a grandmother who appeared suddenly unfamiliar and frightening, was a deeply transformative experience. A knife at the young boy’s throat, an oath sworn to the Sicarii to fight the Westerners with every ounce of blood in their body or have their throat cut like an animal: better dead if you can’t serve the Sicarii like a man. Then the sudden passage from terror to joy as a new Sicarii fighter is born.


 

 

Then the surprise of a great banquet with sufganiyot usually reserved for Hanukah and even his own glass of wine which was even topped up. He went to bed that night full of jelly doughnuts and thick kosher wine, and what was more he was now a man and he had been entrusted a solemn mission, one which he could not fail in, his people depended on him. He would not fail them and they would support him as one man, a nation spread out throughout the world, millions of men all devoted, like him to this one mission and all wiling at a moment’s notice, to give any help he required. How could they lose? They didn’t, they wouldn’t, they don’t. They went from victory to victory and the dazzling beauty of it all was that no one suspected a thing.

[zArk]

the chosen family of the ben ben stone began to believe they were closer to the Gods than they were to the rest of us

over millennia the family has multiple branches with different approaches to being top dogs

 

it has always pissed them off that they require us to do the graft and in many cases to do the thinking for them

 

now they think they have the opportunity to get things done without having to admit they need us through gritted teeth

 

eugenicist branch of the families has the reins

 

zombie slaves for the families

 

 

[Captain Falcon]

18 hours ago, Messenger said:

The cabal feel that consciousness is a gift and if a person will not use that gift and take control of their mind and consciousness then they will.

 

If they thought consciousness was a gift then surely they'd do all they could to encourage it and encourage free thinking etc? If they think it's a gift why do they work around the clock to keep people asleep and unconscious? If a person won't use the gift then maybe that's because it's being undermined at every turn from a vast array of angles. 

 

18 hours ago, Messenger said:

Also, they are not people. The Anunnaki are highly advanced entities who can create life such as they did with humans. Personally I think they are idiots, Enki or Enlil or whichever one of them decided that it was a good idea to create a worker bee-like species with such a easily corruptible and gullible mind. At least they could have given man and woman a better moral compass so that we don't have murderers and rapists such as hillary clinton, bill clinton, gerald ford, etc in such powerful positions. Henry kissinger, zbignew brzinski (and his daughter who works for MSNBC), etc.

 

 

In my opinion the most advanced beings are the wisest and most loving. The ones who use technology for the betterment and benefit of mankind and not for enslavement.

 

I don't believe we are a worker bee-like species at all, and if we do have such an easily corruptible and gullible mind then it's because at heart and soul level we are innocent.

 

Man and woman do have a good moral compass, the Clinton's and the Kissinger's of this world do nothing but lie and exploit and take advantage of the good nature of people. It's not as if the average man or woman know that those freaks are evil but vote for them anyway.

 

Are the Annunaki the cabal? If the so called Anunnaki exist then they're just dickheads, little more than a parasite race who can't do anything on their own or have the wisdom and grace to just leave people be to live out their lives in peace. They sound pathetic and pitiable. They sound like the young psychopathic child pulling the wings off flies and watching the ants devour them.

 

18 hours ago, Messenger said:

What people have done "wrong" is allowing their mind to be stolen/taken over by propaganda (TV/Tel-a-Vision) and their consciousness to remain low from bad "food" (aspartame, fructose, corn syrup, soy, cassava, starch, sugar, etc), violent movies (fear and death lowers the human oscillation rate), fluoridated water, vaccines (mercury/thimerosal, human fetus cells, aluminum, etc).

 

People are not the wrong-doers, the cabal is and always have been. People haven't allowed their mind to be stolen/taken over, they've simply been brainwashed and poisoned from cradle to grave. Working to keep people unconscious and then saying "see, they're unconscious, they don't deserve the gift of consciousness"! It's bullshit and classic psychopathy.

[BlueSky]

I think the odds have been stacked against us. They've had a unfair advantage. What I'd like to know is why the goodness allows it. Free will, I dunno. That's as far as I've got atm. 

[Problem child]

I dont think hate comes into it and I dont take it personally. We are just too unpredictable for them and they will not stop until we all act like a proper flock. Its just about the control

[Smokestack Lightnin']

19 hours ago, Messenger said:

People have been enslaved for thousands of years to kings and queens and lords (landlord). The biggest farce in America is that US armed forces fight for freedom. They actually fight for the cabal's ability to keep people enslaved to fiat currency and consumerism (profit) and the two party political ping pong paradigm.

 

Why do you think that most people don't know about Pizzagate and when they hear about it they think it's a "conspiracy theory". Or that most people don't know about the secret space program... and when you tell them that such and such is happening they think you're nuts... because those who are tasked with protecting our freedom and liberty actually don't and are lying to us, and they have been lying to us for decades.

 

What people have done "wrong" is allowing their mind to be stolen/taken over by propaganda (TV/Tel-a-Vision) and their consciousness to remain low from bad "food" (aspartame, fructose, corn syrup, soy, cassava, starch, sugar, etc), violent movies (fear and death lowers the human oscillation rate), fluoridated water, vaccines (mercury/thimerosal, human fetus cells, aluminum, etc). The cabal feel that consciousness is a gift and if a person will not use that gift and take control of their mind and consciousness then they will. It's also about control. Those who do take control of their consciousness and mind are attacked - free thinkers are ostracized, ridiculed, laughed at, until the world descends into chaos and then people start to ask questions when their world is being turned upside down. Why do they wait? They don't listen to people who see it coming, and then when it happens it's too late. Go to any forum and read up and you will see how ignorant people are to what's going on. Not to say that I'm all knowing because I'm not but I've done a ton of research over the last decade, so I'm far more informed than your typical "educated" college degree fool who has been taught fallacies and is now seeing them in action.

 

Also, they are not people. The Anunnaki are highly advanced entities who can create life such as they did with humans. Personally I think they are idiots, Enki or Enlil or whichever one of them decided that it was a good idea to create a worker bee-like species with such a easily corruptible and gullible mind. At least they could have given man and woman a better moral compass so that we don't have murderers and rapists such as hillary clinton, bill clinton, gerald ford, etc in such powerful positions. Henry kissinger, zbignew brzinski (and his daughter who works for MSNBC), etc.

 

Get the book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, it will tell you who is really in power, the human power anyway, because as you work your way up the pyramid you will eventually learn that there are aliens who are also pulling the strings.

 

PMSL Messenger. You have got to be living in Flat 8, Vernon House lol . Have I got that right ? 

[pi3141]

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

They hate us because the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70AD and massacred the inhabitants during Passover...... They have sworn revenge on all of us from that day.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/bendy-roads-to-gentile-apocalypse-story.html

 

See I think its been going on longer than that. Satan's been at work since the beginning of time. There may well be Jews involved, they may well be at the forefront, owing to their magical system Kabballa. I believe they think that was given to them by arch angel Gabriel or Michael? However that may be a load of old rubbish and the system may well have been given to them by the same black magicians that later created Freemasonry and Christianity and the other Mystery Religions.

 

There's good evidence that Judaism is based on Paghanism, most likely centred around Baal worship and hence Sun worship. Also, its been said that the God of the Old Testament is Satan, so again there's evidence that Judaism is actually Satanic and therefore the Jews themselves would actually be Satanists - 'Those who say they are Jews but actually are the Synagogue of Satan'

 

Hence, it doesn't matter what clothes they wear or what synagogue or temple they worship at, ultimately if they serve Satan, they are Satanist's first and foremost. There may well be a majority of them at the top. they are clever people, but to label it a Jewish conspiracy is doing a major disservice to the good Jews who are themselves hypnotised by the same spells as those under Catholicism and Christianity.

 

Regarding the Jews being clever, I took this from an MSM news article - 

Although they make up less than half of one per cent of the world's population, between 1901 and 1950 Jews won 14 per cent of all the Nobel Prizes awarded for Literature and Science, and between 1951 and 2000 Jews won 32 per cent of the Nobel Prizes for Medicine, 32 per cent for Physics, 39 per cent for Economics and 29 per cent for Science. This, despite many of their greatest intellects dying in the Holocaust.

 

Regarding religions being Pagan, Amen means 'So Be It' or something which is a similar saying to the Witches ;So Mote It Be' which is similar to what the druids used to say. Christianity, Catholicism is Paganism dressed up in new clothes, (I know you know that) Paganism's highest deity was Baal under many guises including as a sun god. Baal is Satan. Sun worship is Baal worship and Catholicism and Christianity and Freemasonry are all about the Sun.

 

Back to the Jewish question I would point to China, currently thats a Satanists wet dream, the oppression of the people, mass pollution, breakdown of society into slave worker bee's. Well are they Jewish? No, currently China is a world superpower with one of the biggest economy, they are a major player on the world stage, Jewish? No. In thrall to them perhaps? Maybe playing along with them but China is big enough now to play by its own rules so why should it continue to play along unless something bigger was at work?

 

What about the Vatican, how much Gold do they have. What about their influence on Western Nations and Governments, the inquisitions, the torture, the witch trials, the genocides all in the name of the Christian God. Again, Jewish? No Devised by the Jews and foisted on us? No, they tried to destroy it when it started and they have never accepted the character Jesus as any sort of holy person.

 

That there are Jews who play a part, maybe even a major part does not make this a Jewish conspiracy, its a Satanic one.

 

Who were the dark magicians that created the Mystery religions, Freemasonry, Christianity and perhaps the Kabballah, who controls them? they are the secret unseen hand that dominates our world and it appears they work for Satan and want us all Paganized and worshiping false Gods or even nature, back to tribalistic savages that worship elemental spirits and the such, hence virtually all religions are dressed up Pagan superstitions. yes I'm sure there is energy there that can be worked with, I'm not dismissing it, on the contrary I acknowledge its power and suggest its being used for nefarious purposes to corrupt us.

 

The powers at work don't even need to be in communication with each other, there may not be a central planning department but instead all participants are working towards a common goal and then from the outside it looks marvelously orchestrated but actually its a melting pot of conspiracies from all quarters that melds together and appears to form an overriding plan that is global and dates back to the dawn of time - that cannot be Jewish it can only be Satanic.

[rideforever]

@pi3141   Your ideas that so many people everywhere all around you are all Satanic ... if that was all true you wouldn't have a chance.  Isn't it quite defeatist.  It's a bit too much isn't it.  On the other hand if we are all universal love consciousness and that is undefeatable and the answer, why doesn't it work - if that was try why isn't there paradise everywhere?
I find these kinds of positions too unrealistic and extreme, there is no descrimination in them, it's either everything bad or everything good.  That's too easy.
Not that I am against everything being universal love consciousness ... go for it, save the world.  But I just don't see that happening, so therefore I don't believe that is the answer.

[Truthspoon]

 Evil has always existed, but never has it had such a clear agenda and method, and world-wide reach.

 

The Jewish religion itself had been at war with evil for most of its early history, this is what the Old Testament is all about.

 

However with the murder of Christ they lost the war and became that evil which before they were supposed to be fighting.

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Truthspoon

[Messenger]

2 hours ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

 

PMSL Messenger. You have got to be living in Flat 8, Vernon House lol . Have I got that right ? 

Nope.

[Messenger]

4 hours ago, Captain Falcon said:

 

If they thought consciousness was a gift then surely they'd do all they could to encourage it and encourage free thinking etc? If they think it's a gift why do they work around the clock to keep people asleep and unconscious? If a person won't use the gift then maybe that's because it's being undermined at every turn from a vast array of angles. 

 

 

In my opinion the most advanced beings are the wisest and most loving. The ones who use technology for the betterment and benefit of mankind and not for enslavement.

 

I don't believe we are a worker bee-like species at all, and if we do have such an easily corruptible and gullible mind then it's because at heart and soul level we are innocent.

 

Man and woman do have a good moral compass, the Clinton's and the Kissinger's of this world do nothing but lie and exploit and take advantage of the good nature of people. It's not as if the average man or woman know that those freaks are evil but vote for them anyway.

 

Are the Annunaki the cabal? If the so called Anunnaki exist then they're just dickheads, little more than a parasite race who can't do anything on their own or have the wisdom and grace to just leave people be to live out their lives in peace. They sound pathetic and pitiable. They sound like the young psychopathic child pulling the wings off flies and watching the ants devour them.

 

 

People are not the wrong-doers, the cabal is and always have been. People haven't allowed their mind to be stolen/taken over, they've simply been brainwashed and poisoned from cradle to grave. Working to keep people unconscious and then saying "see, they're unconscious, they don't deserve the gift of consciousness"! It's bullshit and classic psychopathy.

I agree Falcon. It is all convoluted at this point. There are different entities working against humans.

 

The Anunnaki are thought to be those depicted on the many old cravings and drawings on stone found around the globe. It is said by some researchers that humans were created by the Anunnaki to mine gold for them so they could repair their atmosphere that was damaged during a battle that took place a long time ago, basically when Saturn was the old sun and why it is referenced so much by the Cabal and black magicians, with it's hexagram north pole. This could also be the Reptilian faction or the Draco's which I believe come from the Orion constellation, they also reference Orion a LOT, and those of us paying attention have seen their obsession with the number 33 and freemasonry, and I believe that they are so obsessed with that number because of three particular planets in the Orion constellation with the third planet being "Anu".

 

But of course this sounds so ridiculous to most people because of the religious brainwashing that people have undergone for hundreds and thousands of years. It is only now that people have compiled so much knowledge that we are beginning to see more clearly our past.

 

https://www.northatlanticbooks.com/blog/planet-x-scientists-confirm-what-patricia-cori-already-knew/

 

I found this old Outer Limits episode to be very interesting particularly the part where the Andromeda being alludes to brain waves being electromagnetic energy that is infinite. Maybe it is not the Anunnaki who are bad but it's the Reptilians or Draco's. Maybe Reptilians and Draco's are the same thing, but I believe that the Alpha Draconis star system is very close to or inside the Orion constellation. I've also heard a few high level military people mention that the Anunnaki "walk the halls of the pentagon" and are also at a under ground military base in Dimona israel. So there are definitely things taking place under our nose that the NWO have done a very good job at hiding from the public, such as the secret space program. People can laugh at me all they want, I don't care, I'm the one laughing at sick dis-eased Americans who wouldn't listen and now their country is being burned down by fascist assholes.

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/namYIAYH3y7s/

Edited September 15, 2020 by Messenger
added Saturn image

[pi3141]

16 hours ago, rideforever said:

@pi3141   Your ideas that so many people everywhere all around you are all Satanic ... if that was all true you wouldn't have a chance. 

 

Rule number 1 - Know your enemy

 

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Isn't it quite defeatist.  It's a bit too much isn't it.  

 

Yes it can be, its depressing and can be overwhelmingly so. You can come to the conclusion we are nothing more than farmyard animals. However the enemy relies on fear and secrecy and when exposed dies, so it is easily defeated. Thus there is always hope - unless of course we truly are farmyard animals with no hope of getting off this planet and thus escaping.

 

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On the other hand if we are all universal love consciousness and that is undefeatable and the answer, why doesn't it work - if that was try why isn't there paradise everywhere?
I find these kinds of positions too unrealistic and extreme, there is no descrimination in them, it's either everything bad or everything good.  That's too easy.
Not that I am against everything being universal love consciousness ... go for it, save the world.  But I just don't see that happening, so therefore I don't believe that is the answer.

 

 

Ok. You provoke conflicting thoughts in me - I haven't said anything about a universal love consciousness but we are on a website who's owner and members believes in it. So I'll comment, I do believe we are all connected at some level and can perhaps connect with a divine consciousness. I do think when Jesus came he established the kingdom of heaven here and its been here for the last 2000 years, its just it got corrupted and perverted by dark forces. If we all 'loved each other' there is a good chance we would have heaven on earth, but I guess we're getting off topic here.

Edited September 16, 2020 by pi3141

[pi3141]

16 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 Evil has always existed, but never has it had such a clear agenda and method, and world-wide reach.

 

The Jewish religion itself had been at war with evil for most of its early history, this is what the Old Testament is all about.

 

However with the murder of Christ they lost the war and became that evil which before they were supposed to be fighting.

 

 

Yep, I can believe all that.

 

But it still makes me think, they are just a part of the evil we face, maybe the oldest part, although I don't think that is completely true because the evil has been going on longer than when the Jews supposedly discovered themselves to be a distinct race and came out of Babylon with their racist religion. Those mystery schools were well established back in Babylon - who created them are who we should be looking at, they are the real spiritual masters of this world, dark ones but masters nonetheless.

[rideforever]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

If we all 'loved each other'

 

These kinds of statements need to be carefully qualified to explain what they mean, everything does because without careful clarification you have only superficial understanding and inevitable corruption and twisting of things.  All things can be twisted without nailing it down exactly ... and when you do nail it down it will open up big disagreements not seen when talking superficially ... and then there is a need for careful explanation and careful learning.  And if people can explain carefully and can learn carefully ... then something will actually have been gained.
Otherwise it is another superficial statement leading to nothing.

 

Referring to your earlier post ... Amen is the 'sound' of the state of Consciousness.  When you see a halo painted around a persons' head in a fresco in a church or in India on a statue, this halo is the state of Consciousness which is the feeling of the infinite in the headspace (rather than in the heart, in the heart something a little different happens).  The wide halo about 6" around the head is an attempt to paint what is non-material to give people an idea.  This state is partly energetic, high vibration, and partly higher intelligence-consciousness-knowledge-transmission.  Due to its high vibration it creates a very subtle sound that can be heard in deep meditation.  And if you try to utter this sound, it's a bit like Amen.  Or perhaps Ah-la.
Whether knowing that is useful, maybe not, but just saying.  If you say Amen a lot does it help ... well maybe a little bit.

Witches and pagans and whoever have some slight access to the light, normally quite a messy imprecise access, so they man also use the Amen word.  The prohibition against such people came from the church because the church ... at least the original intention ... was a direct transmission of the light ... and so playing around at lower levels was discouraged.  Remove the toys and give them the real thing.

Of course on this planet things can decay quickly  But here I am trying to reconstruct the knowledge, which every seeker has to do ... as we are always downstream.  You have to make yourself go upstream from the ruins you find yourself in.
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[Truthspoon]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yep, I can believe all that.

 

But it still makes me think, they are just a part of the evil we face, maybe the oldest part, although I don't think that is completely true because the evil has been going on longer than when the Jews supposedly discovered themselves to be a distinct race and came out of Babylon with their racist religion. Those mystery schools were well established back in Babylon - who created them are who we should be looking at, they are the real spiritual masters of this world, dark ones but masters nonetheless.

 

Fair point. But the Jews are supposedly the oldest continuous civilisation on Earth.

Certainly there was evil among the Babylonians.... but they found a way to live with it.......

 

The point is the Jews have manifested evil towards non Jews and Christians for 2 thousand years.....

 

No culture or civilisation has practised such evil with such a purpose for so long.....

 

For the Jews, EVIL is how they operate towards us. Every form of evil, without shame, guilt or responsibility.

 

The Earth has never seen anything of that kind before.

 

Even the Canaanite child murder cults could not maintain this level of evil because they would eventually run out of children.

 

But the Jews can not only abuse our children themselves, but even use their proxies to do it, Satanist, Pakistani rape gangs, Hollywood producers, the Democratic party..... 

 

The world has never known evil on this scale before....