ISRAEL

[legion]

On 11/30/2022 at 11:47 PM, Observations said:

A few quotes:

Why has the US not investigated ?

There is clear video evidence ...

The US has aligned itself with the Israeli narrative 

Every day we are hearing of someone being killed by the Israelis, there is no accountability, no one is asking about it 

 

Unmentionable entities control USA Europe UK etc etc.. 

Those that you cannot talk about hold the reigns of world power. 

[Campion]

On 12/2/2022 at 12:42 AM, legion said:

Unmentionable entities control USA Europe UK etc etc.. 

Those that you cannot talk about hold the reigns of world power. 

And if something's a big story in the msm it's likely we're being manipulated, and the truth is not what we're being shown. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Campion

[Macnamara]

IRAQ: War Launched to Protect Israel – Bush Adviser

By Emad Mekay

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 2004 (IPS) - Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level White House intelligence group.

IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 – the 9/11 commission – in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Zelikow’s casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W. Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its concern for Israel’s security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and to protect the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.

"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis, was motivated by Washington’s desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel, neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to ward off accusations that it derailed the "war on terrorism" it launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington’s biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as "Piffy-ab", the board is supposed to evaluate the nation’s intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known as "code word" that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush (1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups and the Pentagon’s National Reconnaissance Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email messages from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the current president’s transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush’s predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book about the unification of Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official – Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the "Muslim Middle East".

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11 attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.

In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of "scarce hard currency" to harness "communications against electromagnetic pulse", a side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic and electrical communications.

That was "a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride out a nuclear exchange – they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis", according to Zelikow.

He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.

"Play out those scenarios," he told his audience, "and I will tell you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking very much about it".

"Don’t look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask yourself the question, ‘gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in Israel’? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant."

To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the administration.

Analysts who reviewed Zelikow’s statements said they are concrete evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has been hushed up.

"Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the protection of Israel as a component," said Phyllis Bennis of the Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. "But this is a very good piece of evidence of that."

Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.

"They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it, people are trying to read something into it," said Nathan Brown, professor of political science at George Washington University and an expert on the Middle East.

But he downplayed the Israel link. "In terms of securing Israel, it doesn’t make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the long-term strategic threat," he said.

Still, Brown says Zelikow’s words carried weight.

"Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it doesn’t strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about for justification for a decision that has already been made," Brown said. (END/2004)

Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

https://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/

[legion]

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Al-Jazeera-Sues-Israel-Over-Murder-of-Palestinian-Journalist-20221206-0006.html 

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[Stuart dorrans]

What are the facts about Jews? (I call them Jews to you, because they are known as Jews. I don't call them Jews myself. I refer to them as so-called Jews, because I know what they are.)......There wasn't one of them (the Khazars) who had an ancestor who ever put a toe in the Holy land. Not only in Old Testament history, but back to the beginning of time. Not one of them! And yet they come to the Christians and ask us to support their armed insurrections in Palestine by saying, 'You want to help repatriate Gods Chosen People to their Promised Land, their ancestral home, don't you? It's your Christian duty. We gave you one of our boys as your Lord and Saviour.....It is as ridiculous to call them 'people of the Holy Land,' as it would be to call the 54 million Chinese Moslems 'Arabs'...

[Macnamara]

Another Israeli Exploit Developer Caught Selling Malware To Blacklisted Countries

Published: January 23, 2023

Maybe it’s time for the Israeli government to put a moratorium on Mossad-based startups. Israeli intelligence services have been the petri dishes for a particular strain of techbro — ones who have the smarts to create zero-click exploits but none of the common sense needed to cull baddies from their customer lists.

The Israeli government is partly to blame. It worked closely with NSO Group (and presumably others in the same business) to broker deals with human rights abusers: diplomacy via malware sales.

Months of negative press got NSO blacklisted by the US government. It also got it investigated in its homeland, finally resulting in the Israeli government (reluctantly) limiting who the company could sell to.

NSO isn’t the only malware merchant with Israeli roots. Candiru — another recipient of US sanctions — calls Israel home. So does Cytrox, yet another exploit developer with ties to Israeli intelligence services. Cytrox was at the center of a recent domestic spying scandal in Greece, with its malware being used to target opposition leaders and journalists. This culminated in Greek police forces raiding Cytrox’s local office, presumably as part of the ongoing investigation.

Now there’s another Israeli spyware maker making the wrong kind of headlines, as Fanny Potkin and Poppy McPherson report for Reuters.

Israel’s Cognyte Software Ltd won a tender to sell intercept spyware to a Myanmar state-backed telecommunications firm a month before the Asian nation’s February 2021 military coup, according to documents reviewed by Reuters.

No matter who’s running the Myanmar government, they shouldn’t be trusted with powerful spyware. For most of the past 60 years, the country has been run by some form of military dictatorship. The 2021 coup simply reshuffled a bit of the military dictatorship organizational chart. Throughout this time period, residents (especially Muslim residents) have been on the receiving end of intense oppression. For Myanmar’s Muslims, oppression means death: ethic cleansing.

Given the fact that any malware sold to the Myanmar government was likely to be abused to target critics and political opponents, Cognyte never should have agreed to sell the government its products. That’s what it should have willingly decided to do because that’s just being responsible.

But there’s another reason Cognyte shouldn’t have done it: it had to violate the law to complete the sale.

The deal was made even though Israel has claimed it stopped defence technology transfers to Myanmar following a 2017 ruling by Israel’s Supreme Court, according to a legal complaint recently filed with Israel’s attorney general and disclosed on Sunday.

According to the documents seen by Reuters, the sale was finalized at the end of 2020, apparently with the assistance of regulator Myanmar Post and Telecommunications (MPT). Given its proximity to the beginning of the coup, it seems this was deliberately acquired for use by the military government, which decided to contest an election it lost in November 2020 by overthrowing the democratically elected government three months later.

The fact that this sale occurred after the government swears it no longer permitted sales to Myanmar presents two possibilities. Neither option is good.

Either the government never stopped handing out export licenses to tech companies hoping to sell to Myanmar’s government or Cognyte ignored the restriction and made the sale without the required export license. Given that the documents show Cognyte as the winning bidder, the company didn’t even bother to try to launder its illegal export through a middleman. Or maybe it was both: a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for malware sales to human right abusers.

Whatever the case, it’s another black eye for the Israeli government — one that has done little to prevent local companies from selling powerful tech to bad people. It’s also an indictment of its intelligence services, which seem capable of attracting extremely skilled people who somehow decide that the logical extension of the lessons they’ve learned securing their nation is abandoning any remaining morality or ethics once they hit the private sector.

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/84025/another-israeli-exploit-developer-caught-selling-malware-to-blacklisted.html

[Velma]

As the world weeps over an exaggerated ‘holocaust’ which allegedly occurred eight decades ago, Palestinians are burying nine young men killed during a massacre in Jenin refugee camp, yesterday. The Israeli Occupation Forces have been conducting dawn raids in the West Bank for the past year, each time causing casualties, destruction and death. Thirty Palestinians have been killed in the occupied territories this year alone, with many others arrested, without charge. Some are young children, detained for throwing stones, to create terror amongst families. Zionist settlers contribute to the oppression, maiming and murder, under the protection of Israeli soldiers. 

 

Listening to the bleeding-heart sycophants bleating on about how we must remember the ‘holocaust’ lest it happens again, you know they are only referring to Jews. Many other genocides are conveniently forgotten, like the Holodomor, ‘murder by hunger’ instigated by the Jewish Bolshevik revolutionaries and the Nakba ‘catastrophe’ which began when Israel was created as a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The word hypocrisy does not come close, when the hard-line officials in Netanyahu’s government have made ‘shoot to kill’ an official policy. Atrocities are committed every day in Israel, against Arabs in their own land and the world ignores it.

 

 

Edited January 27 by Velma

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Top trend at the moment.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

The replies didn't go as he expected. Noticing is off the charts. Makes you wonder why they're allowing Twitter to become like 4chan and Gab.

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

Typical Fox, making sure American evangelicals remain asleep.

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[alexa]

On 2/3/2023 at 12:42 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Typical Fox, making sure American evangelicals remain asleep.

 

He is right, God hates Idols. This is why God will destroy the Vatican & the likes of.......

[Velma]

Palestinian residents of Huwara awoke to scenes of devastation on Monday after hundreds of Israeli settlers stormed the town overnight setting fire to homes and cars and attacking residents and emergency responders in a revenge attack after the fatal shooting of two Israeli brothers.

 

Dozens of Palestinians suffered injuries in Huwara and several other villages. In neighbouring  Zatara, Palestinian aid worker Sameh Al-Aqtash was shot dead.

 

Israeli soldiers were present throughout the raid but did not intervene. Some were filmed socialising and eating with the attackers, who came from nearby settlements in the West Bank that are illegal under international law.

 

“They kept banging on the doors and shattered the windows,” he told i. “There was fire outside and smoke started getting inside the house. We could either stay inside and inhale the smoke or go outside and get killed.”

 

Following the violence, Israel sent hundreds more troops to the occupied West Bank on Monday, as Palestinians reported that they were prevented from opening their businesses.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/palestinian-terror-settlers-burn-town-2176017

[EnigmaticWorld]

5 hours ago, alexa said:

 

He is right, God hates Idols. This is why God will destroy the Vatican & the likes of.......

 

I don't think it's just about Catholicism, Alexa. Believing Jesus is messiah is idol worship to those that spit on Christians and push Noahide law.

 

https://www.haaretz.com/2004-10-12/ty-article/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them/0000017f-e8fe-df2c-a1ff-fefff36f0000

Edited February 28 by EnigmaticWorld

[Campion]

11 hours ago, alexa said:

He is right, God hates Idols. This is why God will destroy the Vatican & the likes of.......

 

What's the problem with idols, statues, pictures etc anyway? Everyone knows the difference between the image and the reality. 

[alexa]

7 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

What's the problem with idols, statues, pictures etc anyway? Everyone knows the difference between the image and the reality. 

 

It's the worship of them, like the Catholics do with their so called Mary. 

[Campion]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

It's the worship of them, like the Catholics do with their so called Mary. 

 

Do you mean worshipping the statue rather than the person or being it represents? 

Well I have a theory about all the saints in a religion like Catholicism, that it's like a compromise with paganism because a lot of people do like polytheism and banning it completely only causes trouble. So they call the minor gods and demigods 'saints' instead to satisfy the polytheistic impulse and keep them within the mother church. Jesus is a demigod with a divine father and human mother, just like they have in the Greek and Roman pantheon. 

 

The connection with Israel? Well, perhaps it just shows their preference for a strict unitarian monotheism and spitting at trinitarians is a way of making them unwelcome and trying to drive them out. 

Edited February 28 by Campion

[alexa]

22 minutes ago, Campion said:

Do you mean worshipping the statue rather than the person or being it represents? 

Well I have a theory about all the saints in a religion like Catholicism, that it's like a compromise with paganism because a lot of people do like polytheism and banning it completely only causes trouble. So they call the minor gods and demigods 'saints' instead to satisfy the polytheistic impulse and keep them within the mother church. Jesus is a demigod with a divine father and human mother, just like they have in the Greek and Roman pantheon. 

 

Why not just keep it Simple, One God Almighty ? Lets face it, there is only him. 

[DaleP]

OK, so if you attach a Jesus to a pot...... that's not an idol, is it?

[alexa]

1 hour ago, DaleP said:

OK, so if you attach a Jesus to a pot...... that's not an idol, is it?

 

Since no accurate representation of Christ can be produced by creatures, all attempts are false representations and can only promote idolatry.

 

I don't own one statue of Jesus or any pictures of him & I'm even reluctant to even wear a cross.

 

Divine Intervention

I used to own an Antique shop & I remember this one time, I was praying to Jesus to ask him if I should either keep the business going or close it down for good and could he please give me a sign.

And within five minutes this guy walks in carrying this enormous statue of the Virgin Mary for me to buy, which he'd obviously nicked from some church.

My prayer had just been answered, I was closed within the month and I never looked back.

Edited February 28 by alexa
typo

[Velma]

This is what the Almighty thinks of idols.

 

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

15 hours ago, alexa said:

Since no accurate representation of Christ can be produced by creatures, all attempts are false representations and can only promote idolatry.

I think most are based on the description of Him in the letter of Lentulus.

[Campion]

On 2/28/2023 at 8:58 PM, alexa said:

Why not just keep it Simple, One God Almighty ? Lets face it, there is only him. 

 

Don't get me started, I'll end up derailing this thread. I'll try and keep it relevant to Israel ..  looking at it from the absolute pov (if you can see that) then yes there is only one-ness and to call it God is already saying too much. Judaism hints at this by having a taboo on saying Jehovah or using G-d instead of God. But then they spoil it by giving this one-ness a male gender as if he's a king of the universe or something. So it's really a dualistic God, and it creates a massive female shadow (equal in size to the masculinity of God) and to solve that we end up with things like the Catholics worshipping the virgin Mary.  Muslims likewise claim to be monotheists but then create 99 attributes to multiply that unity. 

 

Realising the absolute is achieved by only a few % of adepts and in practice religions create a relativistic God or Gods/Goddesses for the masses; but to then sneer and spit at those who do so openly, such as Christians, Hindus and pagans, is to be blind to your own limitations. Unless you are an enlightened adept in which case you wouldn't look down on anyone else. Because the truth is both absolute and relative at the same time. 

Edited March 1 by Campion