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On 10/22/2022 at 12:16 PM, Macnamara said:

Israeli Company signs deal to bring “meat from heaven” to the European market

by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz | Oct 20, 2022 |

An Israeli company is expanding operations, selling plant-based meat alternatives to gourmet outlets in Europe. Some opinions maintain that vegetarianism is a Biblical idea while others compare high-tech proteins to “meat from Heaven” described in a Talmudic parable.

Redefine Meat, an Israeli company, announced this week that they have partnered with the prestigious meat importer, Monaco-based Giraudi Meats. The start-up, located in Rehovot south of Tel Aviv, raised $170 million in a series A financing round this year and opened a new factory in the Netherlands which will help the company achieve its production goal of 15 tons a day.  Its 3-D printed “New Meat” is made from ingredients including soy and pea proteins, chickpeas, beetroot, nutritional yeasts, and coconut fat. 

Plant-based meat alternatives are considered to be better for animals and the environment but the partnership with the gourmet meat purveyor emphasizes the company’s claim that its product is not a compromise or a meat substitute intended for vegans. Its product list includes tenderloin, striploin, lamb flank, premium burger, and lamb kebab. New Meat is currently available in Israel, Britain, the Netherlands, and Germany in almost 1,000 restaurants that are currently paying about $40 per kilo for Redefine Meat’s steak cuts.  

A known powerhouse in high-tech, Israel is quickly becoming a leader in alternative meat and is ranked second in the absolute number of alternative protein companies, lagging behind the US. Israel companies pulled in over $114 million in investments in the field in 2020. Good Food Institute’s (GFI) Israel report found that Israeli startups raised over $320 million in the first six months of 2022. This is expected to grow at a rate of over 150 percent each year, reaching $155 billion by 2027.

https://www.israel365news.com/275720/israeli-company-signs-deal-to-bring-meat-from-heaven-to-the-european-market/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign

 

This is the process of the 170m dollar investment.. 

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9 hours ago, Skotfreezy said:

 

This is the process of the 170m dollar investment.. 

 

What about butter, milk & cheese, eggs etc ?

And what happens to all the animals, do they become extinct ?

Looks like Quorn is going to win :classic_sad:

 

 

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UN Votes 152 to 5 Telling Israel to Get Rid of Its Nuclear Weapons

The United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly, 152 to 5, to tell the Israeli apartheid regime to get rid of its nuclear weapons, which are illegal under international law.

 

The vast majority of countries on Earth voted in the United Nations General Assembly to condemn the Israeli apartheid regime for having nuclear weapons, in flagrant violation of international law.

Israel is the only country in West Asia that has nukes. Tel Aviv has not officially acknowledged its possession of the planet-destroying weapons, but experts estimate it has at least 90 nuclear warheads, and perhaps hundreds.

On October 28, a staggering 152 countries (79% of all UN member states) adopted a resolution that called on Israel to give up its atomic bombs, join the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to supervise its nuclear facilities. 

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/un-votes-152-5-telling-israel-get-rid-nuclear-weapons/5798026 

 

 

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10 hours ago, legion said:

UN Votes 152 to 5 Telling Israel to Get Rid of Its Nuclear Weapons

 

I think I'm with Israel on this one. Why should the globalist UN pick them out individually when there's plenty of other countries with nukes too? I could understand it if they had a resolution on multilateral disarmament for every nuclear power, but unilateral disarmament? Wind your neck in. We should leave the UN.  

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2 hours ago, Campion said:

 

I think I'm with Israel on this one. Why should the globalist UN pick them out individually when there's plenty of other countries with nukes too? I could understand it if they had a resolution on multilateral disarmament for every nuclear power, but unilateral disarmament? Wind your neck in. We should leave the UN.  


The issue is that Israel denies having them, unlike every other country that has them, which is breach of International Law.

l'd have to go check the name...( Mordechai Vanunu  )...but a whistle blower who told the world that Israel had developed atomic / nuclear weapons was illegally kidnapped from Italy.....and put on trial in Israel with his teeth wired up so he couldn't talk.

And - By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries that proliferate weapons of mass destruction. Such an admission would prevent Israel from receiving over $2 billion each year in military and other aid from Washington.


Really really not good.

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@legion  ah yes I remember the Mordecai Vanunu story. Not good, but I don't see the answer as unilateral disarmament. It looks like Israel only has nukes for themselves, they're not proliferating to other countries are they? Israel could simply admit to their nuclear arsenal. The US policy, as a nuclear power itself, doesn't make sense to me. To be consistent they'd have to stop funding themselves or do unilateral disarmament first, before they stopped funding anyone else.  

 

This is also why I don't get the campaign against Iran having nukes too, when it's mostly nuclear powers trying to stop them. 

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The more I think about it, the more that things like the non-proliferation treaty and international aid ( civil and military) looks like a scheme to keep small countries dependent on the superpowers and compromise their independence. Preventing places like Ukraine and Taiwan having them makes them rely on the US and effectively become part of the empire. 
 
We were told that MAD, mutually assured destruction, from nukes has kept the peace in Europe since WW2 so we need them. But there's a different rule for others. 
 
And now they're trying to bring in "international law", which implies international courts and international government. Ie a single authority merging together the superpowers. No wonder the left like it to deal with the middle east: problem/reaction/solution again. 

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2 hours ago, Campion said:

Israel could simply admit to their nuclear arsenal.

 

Yes. They could, but they don't. 

Don't want to lose the 2 BILLION $$$$

Don't want to start a shit storm in the Middle East about who can and can't have WMDs and why.. 

 

2 hours ago, Campion said:

This is also why I don't get the campaign against Iran having nukes too, when it's mostly nuclear powers trying to stop them. 

 

Exactly. 

 

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25 minutes ago, legion said:

Yes. They could, but they don't. 

Don't want to lose the 2 BILLION. 

Don't want to start a shit storm in the Middle East about who can and can't have WMDs and why.. 

 

The most charitable explanation I have is that the powers are being pragmatic and applying the maxim of 'the end justifies the means'. Instead of consistent moral principles we have contradictions and double standards.

 

In which case we have to ask ourselves what are the real ends they are working towards. Of course by their own actions they have created a precedent that lying is acceptable ("Israel doesn't have nukes" justifies the ends) so we have to take everything else with a pinch of salt. 

 I'm not only referring to the US-Israel relationship here of course, many other countries use this so-called "diplomacy". 

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On 11/17/2021 at 8:57 AM, Golden Retriever said:

Empty words from Keir Starmer because he knows full well he and nobody else will do anything

about the continued theft of Palestinian land, with Jewish settlements.

 

David and Gareth Icke used to support BDS totally a few years ago (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions),

but have been very quiet of late. Why is that Gareth? genune question.

 

@GarethIcke

 

 

 

  Maybe the Icke's want to keep their platforms for free speech. As we can see recently David has been banned from speaking freely, even travelling freely... so if we were in their shoes we would be trying to save the platform by any means. If that means toning down what they say while it is readily known from previous speeches how they feel then we should give them space to maintain a status quo in order to continue. They are clearly on David's ass now and have put a two year restriction on him in certain areas. But while he has a platform he can continue his work.

 

We all know the The Balfour Treaty was and is a corrupt treaty. Palestine was not Britains to give away. Thats a fact. The settlers (claimed to be Israeli settlers) stole Palestinian lands, their homes and sometimes killed them. Those Palestinians that left were never allowed to return. They fled the 'war' created by the'Israelis' or whoever was really chasing them out. They put the possessions they could carry in their clothing, often sewn in, and headed to Jordan or Lebanon areas... I have this from Palestinians who were robbed of their homeland, their homes and their possessions...and more importantly in many cases of their families. This whole business makes me sick...

 

 

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4 hours ago, Campion said:

we have contradictions and double standards.


^^  this ^^ 

 

 

4 hours ago, Campion said:

Of course by their own actions they have created a precedent that lying is acceptable...so we have to take everything else with a pinch of salt. 


A mountain of salt IMO.
 

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Revealed: The Former Israeli Spies Working in Top Jobs at Google, Facebook and Microsoft

October 31st, 2022

Studying employment databases, MintPress has ascertained that hundreds of agents from Israeli military intelligence and spying organization Unit 8200 are now employed in influential roles in many of the world’s largest tech and communications companies, including Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Amazon. 

A MintPress study has found that hundreds of former agents of the notorious Israeli spying organization, Unit 8200, have attained positions of influence in many of the world’s biggest tech companies, including Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Amazon.

The Israeli Defense Forces’ (IDF) Unit 8200 is infamous for surveilling the indigenous Palestinian population, amassing kompromat on individuals for the purposes of blackmail and extortion. Spying on the world’s rich and famous, Unit 8200 hit the headlines last year, after the Pegasus scandal broke. Former Unit 8200 officers designed and implemented software that spied on tens of thousands of politicians and likely aided in the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

 

Google

According to employment website LinkedIn, there are currently at least 99 former Unit 8200 veterans currently working for Google. This number almost certainly underestimates the scale of the collaboration between the two organizations, however. For one, this does not count former Google employees. Nor does it include those without a public LinkedIn account, or those who do have an account, but have not disclosed their previous affiliations with the high-tech Israeli surveillance unit. This is likely to be a considerable number, as agents are expressly prohibited from ever revealing their affiliation to Unit 8200. Thus, the figure of 99 only represents the number of current (or extremely recent) Google employees who are brazenly flouting Israeli military law by including the organization in their profiles.

Among these include:

Gavriel Goidel: Between 2010 and 2016, Goidel served in Unit 8200, rising to become Head of Learning at the organization, leading a large team of operatives who sifted through intelligence data to “understand patterns of hostile activists”, in his own words, transmitting that information to superiors. Whether this included any of the over 1000 Gazan civilians Israel killed during their 2014 bombardment of Gaza is unknown. Goidel was recently appointed Head of Strategy and Operations at Google.

Jonathan Cohen: Cohen was a team leader during his time in Unit 8200 (2000-2003). He has since spent more than 13 years working for Google in various senior positions, and is currently Head of Insights, Data and Measurement.

read on here https://www.mintpressnews.com/bbc-connections-conservative-party-israel-unit-8200-social-media/282545/

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4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Former spies? Pull the other one 😉 

 

all those israeli 'tech start-ups'.....just extensions of the israeli military-intelligence apparatus. They're playing to win

 

meanwhile in the UK we are flooding the third world into the country whilst 'transitioning' our young so that they can't reproduce....

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8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

all those israeli 'tech start-ups'.....just extensions of the israeli military-intelligence apparatus. They're playing to win

 

As they say, everything is connected, it's all one extended system. 

 

8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

meanwhile in the UK we are flooding the third world into the country whilst 'transitioning' our young so that they can't reproduce....

 

Low birth rate is one of the western features which Israel doesn't copy.   We in the west have been programmed to think that we can't afford to have more children, but when you look at the birth_rate figures, it's the poorest countries which have the highest birth rates. Which is where many of those migrants are coming from. 

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On 11/8/2022 at 8:15 AM, Campion said:

Low birth rate is one of the western features which Israel doesn't copy.   We in the west have been programmed to think that we can't afford to have more children, but when you look at the birth_rate figures, it's the poorest countries which have the highest birth rates. Which is where many of those migrants are coming from. 

 

its only white people that mustn't have children......meanwhile migrants are flooded in and given housing, free healthcare, free education and free money to help them procreate without even having to work for a living

 

and working white people are taxed to pay for it.....taxed to pay for our own replacement

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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

its only white people that mustn't have children......meanwhile migrants are flooded in and given housing, free healthcare, free education and free money to help them procreate without even having to work for a living

 

and working white people are taxed to pay for it.....taxed to pay for our own replacement

 

 

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10 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

its only white people that mustn't have children......meanwhile migrants are flooded in and given housing, free healthcare, free education and free money to help them procreate without even having to work for a living

 

and working white people are taxed to pay for it.....taxed to pay for our own replacement

I think second and third generation migrants aren't having any children either, specially the more westernized ones. There seems to be something about the western urban lifestyle that makes people collectively suicidal. I wonder if our "owners" know something we don't and if that's the reason they seek to replace populations.

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10 minutes ago, Alexandr said:

 I wonder if our "owners" know something we don't and if that's the reason they seek to replace populations.

 

they know that we have a sense of national identity and cultural identity and a history and tradition of common law and christian morality

 

they want all that gone to create 'tabula rasa' (blank slate) people which they can then mould into global citizens on the technocratic slave plantation

 

it makes perfect sense why posh neo-marxist climate activists would attack old artwork because they are post-modern, mind controlled slaves whose handlers want to wipe the slate of europe clean. They don't want our culture and art to survive. They don't want anything that reminds us of who we are and where we came from. This was what orwells '1984' was portraying with everything being thrown down the memory hole

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On 8/12/2022 at 2:28 PM, legion said:

Pre-Emptive Murder
 

The lives of the latest fifteen Palestinian children to be murdered by Israel in Gaza, lives ripped from their small, terrified bodies with devastating violence, do not seem of much concern to the powerful in the West, or indeed anywhere.
 

The BBC repeated without question Israel’s claim that its latest launch of high explosive at the Gaza concentration camp was to prevent a terrorist attack on Israeli civilians – of which prospective attack no evidence has been produced. No western media has asked for any. Nor has it been explained why the attack would be stopped by Israel obliterating the alleged leader in Gaza of Islamic Jihad, and many innocents who chanced to be in his vicinity.
 

The scenarios in which the assassination of a leader prevent an attack which is in train are Hollywood.
 

The brave Daniel Hale sits in solitary confinement (euphemistically called a “Communications Management Unit) for blowing the whistle on the US drone assassination programme in Afghanistan. Hale, a drone operative, revealed that 90% of people killed by the drone assassination programme in Afghanistan were not the designated target, but that by default everybody killed by a drone strike was labeled an enemy combatant unless positive proof to the contrary were provided (which of course no effort was made to collect).

The extra-judicial execution of “Bad guys” with no legal process is not only carried out by Israel. The USA and the UK do it all the time, across the conflicts created by their own neo-imperial adventures and lust for hydrocarbons.
 

Nobody can tell you how many children have been killed by drone strikes or “targeted” missiles and bombings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia, Yemen or Libya.
 

The total across those countries is undoubtedly tens of thousands of dead children. We, however, are apparently the good guys. All those children have been killed in our self-defence, just like Israel killed those children in Gaza. I do hope that helps you sleep more soundly. 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/08/pre-emptive-murder/ 

On 9/6/2022 at 5:07 PM, legion said:

Israel admits killing American journalist ‘accidentally’

The IDF says there is a “high possibility” Shireen Abu Akleh was killed by mistake and won’t charge soldiers
 

Israel admits killing American journalist ‘accidentally’

Tributes are paid to murdered Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh at a protest and vigil at BBC Broadcasting House on May 12, 2022 in London, England. © Getty Images / Guy Smallman
 

Israel will not be opening criminal investigations into any of its soldiers over the killing of Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in May. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) admitted on Monday that there is a “high possibility” that the journalist was “accidentally hit” by Israeli army fire.
 

An investigation into the incident launched by the Israeli military found that 51-year-old Abu Akleh was likely shot by an Israeli soldier who was under “wild and indiscriminate” gunfire and misidentified her as a Palestinian combatant. 
 

The IDF added that it does not rule out the possibility that the journalist was killed by Palestinian gunfire.

Chief of Staff for the Israeli Army Aviv Kohavi stated that Abu Akleh’s death was “a devastating incident” which occurred “during operational activity to prevent Palestinian terror” and that the journalist was killed amid an “exchange of fire that lasted for almost an hour.” 
 

The IDF said it will not be pursuing criminal charges or prosecution against any of the soldiers involved in the incident as there “was no suspicion of a criminal offense that warrants the opening of an MPCID investigation.”

The IDF’s conclusion however, seems to contradict the findings of investigations carried out by the UN and The Palestinian Authority, as well as several media outlets including CNN and Associated Press. 
 

Video footage as well as eyewitness testimony unearthed by these investigations suggests that there was no active combat or any Palestinian militants near Abu Akleh in the moments leading up to her death, which sparked international outrage.
 

 

US wants ‘accountability’ for death of Palestinian journalist

Abu Akleh can also be seen wearing a protective vest and helmet that were clearly labeled “PRESS” on both the front and the back as she was standing next to other journalists who were also in their press gear. The IDF, however, insists that the Israeli soldiers did not know who they were shooting at.

CNN’s investigation back in May suggested that Abu Akleh, who was a veteran Al Jazeera Arabic TV correspondent and a household name in the Arab world, may have been intentionally targeted by Israeli forces.

Al Jazeera described the killing in a statement as “blatant murder” and said that Abu Akleh was “assassinated in cold blood” and has called for Israeli authorities to be held responsible for the incident.

Abu Akleh’s family rejected the results of the Israeli investigation, saying in a statement that it aims to “obscure the truth” of what happened. “Our family is not surprised by this outcome since it’s obvious to anyone the Israeli war criminals cannot investigate their own crimes,” the family’s statement reads.

https://www.rt.com/news/562246-israel-killed-journalist-accident/ 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Observations said:

On Al Jazeera they showed a half hour programme called fault lines that searches for answers and accountability after the killing of Shireen Abu Akleh by Israel military forces.

 

The video evidence of the killing was very revealing. Very sad to witness. Such a great loss. 

 

A few quotes:

Why has the US not investigated ?

There is clear video evidence ...

The US has aligned itself with the Israeli narrative 

Every day we are hearing of someone being killed by the Israelis, there is no accountability, no one is asking about it 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Observations said:

Why has the US not investigated ?

 

37 minutes ago, Observations said:

Israel admits killing American journalist ‘accidentally’

The IDF says there is a “high possibility” Shireen Abu Akleh was killed by mistake and won’t charge soldiers
 
Tributes are paid to murdered Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh at a protest and vigil at BBC Broadcasting House on May 12, 2022 in London, England. © Getty Images / Guy Smallman
 

Israel will not be opening criminal investigations into any of its soldiers over the killing of Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in May. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) admitted on Monday that there is a “high possibility” that the journalist was “accidentally hit” by Israeli army fire.

 

What was her nationality? The quote above gives three versions: American, Palestinian and Palestinian-American. Possibly a typo but it would make a difference. If she's Palestinian, then the US could claim it's not their jurisdiction to investigate. 

 

I can't open the rt.com link, maybe since the Ukraine war it's censored in the UK like their TV station is. 

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6 minutes ago, Campion said:

What was her nationality?

 

Wiki for speed

Abu Akleh was born in Jerusalem, to a Palestinian Arab Christian family from Bethlehem.

She spent time in the US obtaining U.S. citizenship through members of her mother's family who lived in New Jersey.

 

The above two quotes were kindly shared by legion, I shared the latest updates from Al Jazeera, and touched on a few questions that are explored in the documentary. It was much more detailed than I had time to elaborate on, for anyone who would like to watch it. 

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