EnigmaticWorld Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 7/16/2022 at 8:56 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) On 10/31/2023 at 8:33 PM, The OC said: Agree or Disagree? CLAIM: The Zionists have so much power THEY can get away with destroying the lives of non Jews all over the world! When Jews accuse Christians who venerate the relics of the saints of practicing idolatry, compare and contrast that with communists who venerate deceased political leaders such as Lenin or Mao. Or how about when Orthodox Jews offer veneration to their Rebbes or their Rambam Maimonides. When the Noahide Laws are enforced will Jewish moguls in Hollywood have their heads decapitated for creating idolatrous content? Think of the tv shows or film genres which constantly draw people away from God. And what about all the celebrities in music, film or sports etc Bible With Brother - YouTube This is evidence that Rabbinical Zionist Jews and Orthodox Christians have a completely different theology, and they worship a different understanding of the God from the bible. These rabbinical Jews are acting as a decoy. I don't buy it. They're fomenting divisions in our communities. But why do this, while exposing their hand? Something is not right. This is a a ruse designed to disguise their real intentions or activities. To protect the "black man", the Jews of today may be covering for an entirely different group of people, a hidden species or "fallen angels." Mythology, folklore and speculative fiction There are at least 18 verses from the Old and New Testament about fallen angels. Here are three to start. Jude 1:6 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Who are "They & Them?" The Shadow People My family risked their lives helping their Jewish neighbors and friends during WWII, if the shtf this time around, our generation will do the same. We'll try to help everyone. Jew and Gentile. Prepare for the worst, and watch your backs. Remember NOT ALL JEWS are involved in this satanic cabal. Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Rabbis call for the total destruction of Gaza! Fact, Fake, or Opinion? The Truth about Ex-IDF (Israel Defense Forces) Dropped a Truth Bomb on 7th Oct – ‘It’s an Inside Job!’ Search here >> https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e?view=content “It is easier to deceive people than to convince them they have been deceived!” Compare the Amalekites' unprovoked attack on Ancient Israelites with the Israelis in the IDF committing an unprovoked attack on Palestinian Orthodox Christians on an Orthodox Church in Gaza in 2023 EXODUS CHAPTER 17 KJV AMALEK IN THE BIBLE AMALEKITES IN THE BIBLE These rabbis talk of blotting out Amalek. But who were the Amalekites? Since at least the time of Moses, Amalekites may have deliberately infiltrated the Jewish community for their own nefarious purposes. Mind you, through the guise of appearing Jewish, I think the Amalekites may have weaseled their way into every other ethnic community on the planet too, since then. At this point I'm trying to determine whether or not the modern Amalekites are a biological race, or a demonic force which enters individuals through possession or channeling. You could find many articles from legitimate sources about the spirit of Amalek. One Christian author writes, "The Amalekites were not just another Bedouin tribe; they were the embodiment of all that was wrong in the world; a kind of walking Covid virus, preying upon the weak and helpless. Even in days of David they were still raiding and marauding, burning villages and carrying off women and children (1 Samuel 30:1-2)." It seems many Jews and Gentiles, Israelis and radical Islamists, are themselves in the spirit of Amalek, the spirit of The Antichrist. the Antichrist will be of Jewish ancestry, from the tribe of Dan. Born in Babylon, (A Jew from Iraq, Iran, Syria) raised as a Jew, and most likely a circumcised male. https://orthodoxword.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/the-antichrist-orthodox-perspective/ Bible Verses About Mercy https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Mercy/ Keep in mind, Amalek can be anyone, any gender, any race and be in any nation at all times. they can masquerade as Jews or as Gentiles. Could the Amalekites be the spirits of fallen angels? Watch this scene from the film Fallen >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=563xkXq4duw The first rule of Unrestricted Warfare is that there are no rules with nothing forbidden! Satan and Demons — St. Andrew Greek Orthodox Church (saintandrewgoc.org) "The devil, diavolos, it means the one who divides, the one who separates and distorts." Divide & Rule It seems there's more profit and power to be made when people are divided. If a leadership of both sides is Playing Both Sides, that's Running Both Sides.(RBS) A few examples of Running Both Sides.(RBS) Pro-Zionists vs alleged Anti-Zionists in the Jewish community Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss is an activist and spokesperson for Neturei Karta, which vocally opposes Zionism and the state of Israel. Irrespective of whether or not the Palestinian people was affected or the land was uninhabited, Neturei Karta say the Jewish people didn't have a right to self-determination. The establishment of the state of Israel prior to the coming of the Messiah is sinful and an act of rebellion against God. Weiss says Jews yearn to return to the Holy Land and pray to God to bring about that end day, but in the meantime, they are tasked with patiently waiting, serving God, being loyal citizens and upholding the Torah in every land in which they live. This interview was conducted by Dr. Safiyyah Ally at Reviving the Islamic Spirit convention in Toronto in December 2023. Below was an example of Pro-vaxxers vs Anti-vaxxers in the Jewish community under Covid lockdowns. Baltimore Rabbis Call Community to Vaccinate Against Covid (collive.com) Hashem gave us a gift - the Covid-19 vaccines: Schluchim Rabbi Shmuel Kaplan and Rabbi Elchonon Lisbon and the rabbonim of Baltimore recorded a video calling on the Jewish community to get vaccinated (Pro-Vaxxers) Dr. Zelenko speaks to a Rabbinical court in Jerusalem - America's Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org) (Watch @ 12:00) Bill Gates said last year, seven billion people need to be vaccinated, the death rate will be over two billion people. So wake up! This is World War Three! This is a level of malfeasance and malevolence we have not seen probably in the history of humanity. I'm against child sacrifice ... and I really believe that this G-d (The Talmudic G-d?) is testing every human being. And here is the test: Are you going to bow down to me, to Hashem. Are you going to ask for protection from me, are you going to take your fear and ask me to help, or are you going to run for the vaccine of your governments of despots, and tyrants like sociopaths? (Anti-Vaxxers) Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Orthodox Christianity and Zionism are Morally Incompatible Despite efforts to “link” the two faiths via the phrase “Judeo-Christian”, Orthodox Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism are incompatible religiously, morally, and culturally. As is Orthodoxy with “Christian Zionism”. Not long after I posted this video on the forum, Brother Nathanael's channel was permanently removed from YouTube. THEY did not want to be exposed! Question - Could the rulers of nations who love war, the powers and principalities, be socially engineering prophecy for the coming of the false Moshiach, the biblical Antichrist? THE EL-itists A Letter to the Rulers of Nations Who Love War (Elder Philotheos Zervakos) THE AMALEK SYNDROME Watch Brother Nathanael's videos here: Bible with Brother Why I Left Judaism Judaism was my childhood religion in practice and learning, all my social groups were Jewish, my role models were Jewish, my best friends were Jewish, everything pointed to me being Jewish, including my face and habits. But I couldn't make it work, I left Judaism. This is my personal story. It seems many Jews and Gentiles, Israelis and radical Islamists, are themselves in the spirit of Amalek, the spirit of The Antichrist. Matthew 7:20 “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” (KJV) An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.” THE LEGEND OF THE TWO WOLVES || Native American Legend - YouTube Edited December 14, 2023 by The OC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Israel and the unexpected new world order https://www.jpost.com/opinion/israel-and-the-unexpected-new-world-order-499310 "For the Western world, strong new alliances between certain non-Western countries constitute something of a mystery. But while the West is distracted by political uprisings and remains enamored with the idea of its own 'manifest destiny', a new world order is emerging, dominated by up-and-coming global superpowers like Russia, China and India." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Israel’s CHEQ to help Musk battle bots on X - opinion https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-777926 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Current Events in Ukraine – The Vilna Gaon On Moshiach https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/current-events-in-ukraine-the-vilna-gaon-on-moshiach/ "The Vilna Gaon concluded that when Russia enters the Crimea (Ukraine) this is a sign that Russia has reached its peak and one should start to soon hear the 'bells' [or the shofar sound] of Moshiach." Edited December 16, 2023 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 The Historical, Religious, & Political Implications of Zionism Howdy folks, time for another podcast. Today, I will discuss Zionism, not only in light of the present conflict in the Middle East but as a historical curiosity. In particular, I will point out the theological absurdities of the Christian Zionist movement, especially in regards to how it actually predated Jewish Zionism. In the first part of the podcast, I will give an historical overview; in the second (middle part) I will make some socio-cultural observations as to why it has taken hold of the American imagination. Third, I will talk about the proper Christian –and political–response. I hope you don’t mind but there is a lot to unpack and frankly, if I wrote about it, it probably be another 10,000-plus word essay. And frankly, I don’t have time for that. Speaking of 10,000 word essays, here is my original thesis on the historical relationship between the Christian Church and Rabbinic Judaism: https://www.monomakhos.com/gnosticism-the-enlightenment-the-jews/. As to the present hostilities, here is my take on the relationship between the Israelis and the Palestinians: https://www.monomakhos.com/on-the-jewish-question/ Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. As always, I look forward to your comments. The Historical, Religious, & Political Implications of Zionism — Monomakhos As stated at the top, I will explore the cultural reasons for which I believe many American Protestants have taken up the cause of Zionism in the very near future. Stay tuned! Part II: Cultural Aspects of Christian Zionism Last week, we discussed the theological and geostrategic aspects of Zionism, with an equal emphasis on the Protestant Christian heresy as well as the Jewish nationalist ideology. Today, I’d like to discuss more about the cultural aspects, specifically the enthusiastic support that the majority of Americans give to the state of Israel. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this short, 11 minute analysis. Part II: Cultural Aspects of Christian Zionism — Monomakhos Part III: “Christian Zionism” –Is It Good for the Jews? So now we come to Part III of my series on Zionism. In this podcast, I talk specifically about Christian Zionism and its political impact on America. In addition, I strive to point out its massive theological errors (as well as its logical fallacies). I hope you enjoy it. Spoiler alert: Christian Zionism is not good for the Jews. Not that it’s good for the Christians either. Part III: “Christian Zionism” –Is It Good for the Jews? — Monomakhos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The OC Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on the souls of all the Palestinians and Israelis in Gaza and around the world who've suffered in this senseless conflict. Panagia, help us, save us! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The United States on Monday announced a 10-nation coalition to quell Houthi missile and drone attacks on ships transiting the Red Sea, with Britain, France, Bahrain and Italy among countries joining the “multinational security initiative.” “Countries that seek to uphold the foundational principle of freedom of navigation must come together to tackle the challenge posed by this non-state actor,” US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in a statement late-light Monday. Iran-backed Houthi rebels have escalated attacks on tankers, cargo ships and other vessels in the Red Sea, imperiling a transit route that carries up to 12 percent of global trade. “This is an international challenge that demands collective action,” Austin said in statement released just after midnight in Bahrain. “Therefore today I am announcing the establishment of Operation Prosperity Guardian, an important new multinational security initiative.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-led-coalition-of-10-nations-to-counter-houthi-attacks-on-vessels-in-red-sea/ And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. (Revelation 17:12) Based on typical interpretations of this passage, and of the timeline of the tribulation, it seems the kings will govern a confederacy of ten states at the beginning of the tribulation. Likely, this confederacy will involve nations in Western Europe, which is territory once occupied by the Roman Empire. By this interpretation, those leaders will ratify a peace treaty with Israel during their rule before trouble emerges. Perhaps the confederacy fears the rise of militant Russia, and the situation becomes too complex for the ten kings to handle, so they unite with the beast. Together, the ten kings and the beast rule, but the union endures for only a brief time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The War in Gaza: It’s Not About Hamas. It’s About Demographics By Mike Whitney Global Research, December 18, 2023 We’ve been told repeatedly that the goal of Israel’s operation in Gaza is to “defeat Hamas”. But is that true? We don’t think it is. We don’t think that any reasonable person would attempt to eradicate a militant organization by laying to waste vast swaths of the country while killing tens of thousands of innocent people. That is not how one garners support for one’s cause nor is it an effective strategy for defeating the enemy. Instead, it is a policy that is guaranteed to horrify allies and critics alike greatly undermining the operation’s chances of success. And that’s why we don’t believe that Israel’s attack on Gaza has anything to do with Hamas. We think it’s a smokescreen that’s being used to divert attention from the real objectives of the campaign. And, what might those “real objectives” be? The real objectives relate to an issue that is never discussed in the media, but is the primary factor driving events. Demographics. As we all know, Israel’s long-term plan is to incorporate Gaza and the West Bank into Greater Israel. They want to control all the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. The problem is, however, that if they annex the occupied territories without disposing of the people, then the Palestinian population will equal or exceed that of the Jews which would lead to the demise of the Jewish state. That is the basic problem in a nutshell. Check out this article that helps to explain what’s going on: Demography is a matter of national security in Israel and a key indicator for Israeli-Palestinian relations and their outlook: demographic trends in Israel are rapidly shifting and this will impact prospects for violence and conflict resolution. As of late 2022, over seven million Israelis lived in Israel and the West Bank, and seven million Palestinians lived in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israel and East Jerusalem, a somehow integrated region referred to as “Greater Israel” by Jewish right-wing activists … A demographic bomb is already ticking. Israeli Jews experience an existential fear to be outgrown by the Palestinian population,and this is further instrumentalized by right-wing nationalist political entrepreneurs. Demography lies at the core of the territorial dispute between Jews and Arabs, as the two nations are waging a major war on numbers, aimed at weaponizing fertility rates to turn them into a predictive assumption of victory. As an American, diversity might not seem like such a big deal. But to many Israelis, it’s pure strychnine. Zionists, in particular, see growth in the Arab population as a “demographic time-bomb” that threatens the future of the Jewish state. And that’s what the Gaza fracas is really all about; getting rid of the people but keeping the land. In fact, the last 75 years of conflict can be reduced to just 8 words, “They want the land, but not the people.” Here’s more from the Times of Israel: Jewish people make up less than 47 percent of all those living west of the Jordan River, an Israeli demographer warned Tuesday, claiming that most of the Israeli population is unaware of the democratic peril the country is sliding into by possibly becoming a ruling minority in the area. https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-gaza-not-about-hamas-about-demographics/5843618 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Omar Esa - Israel Has A Right To Defend Itself | Official Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 this entire problem of Israel and Palestine began when the Turkish Khilafa (Caliphate) was demolished. everyone was living in peace and prosperity. watch this turkish series : "PAYITAHT ABDULHAMID" then you will understand everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Fake Valor: Why Did Zionist Jews Hoist Nazis Flag on Their Ships in the 1930s? Facts about the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement between Ben-Gurion & Hitler (1933 - late 39) - Palestine Remembered Looking through the content in the link above, where would someone begin to fact check? Quote When Hitler disbanded all German political parties & their public activities; Zionists were the ONLY ones allowed to operated & march with their own uniforms. Pay attention to Betar's SS look a like uniforms! Some old habits die hard! - Palestine Remembered Zionists were the only non-Nazi parties allowed to operate in Nazi Germany! Pay attention to Betar's SS-look-like uniforms! מכון ז'בוטינסקי | Item (jabotinsky.org) Troops of Betar in Uniform Berlin 1936 - Google Search DYSTOPIAN SOCIETIES WILL SOON BECOME A FRIGHTENING REALITY IN OUR WORLD! Nazism, fascism, and communism are just extended branches of applied satanism. The sooner people consider that The El-ite created both Communism and Nazism, the sooner people will have the veil of deception lifted from their eyes. Research [VIDEOS] The Historical, Religious, & Political Implications of Zionism [VIDEO] Palestinian Christians - a history of oppression and displacement Who are Lucifer's Dark Shepherds? Did Blacks, Jews & Asians fight for the Nazis? CONQUEST - This is Zionism, the core of #Israel Is Cyprus next after Gaza? Which Wolf Will Win? Historical revisionism and historical negationism become deceptive weapons in the hands of tyrants. Is a person's cultural heritage worth fighting for, or is it better to just allow another group to define who you are? The El-itists are trying to provoke ethnic Europeans to react. The best way to react is to expose the El-itists plans as they unfold using the same technologies which are at our disposal. George Santayana: “To know your future you must know your past” "History can be a weapon, and it can be used against you" - James W. Loewen “To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?” ― Marcus Tullius Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Israeli (AI) Censorship, Unbiased Search Engines & The Deus Ex Machina A Global Consensus All around the world, from ancient pagan writers until today, there must be volumes of books which were lost or destroyed, some which are still available, with stories, quotations, and sayings that give the reader a first hand and honest description of the author's interaction with Jewish people. Both positive and negative. Someone must have compiled a database or list over the years. What is the general sentiment of the goyim towards the Jews around the world? Examples: Without the fear of persecution, whether being ostracized and shunned from the community, losing their jobs or place of residence, what do people from ethnic European backgrounds, African, Asian etc. honestly think? Nowadays anyone who even hints at criticizing modern Jews or the state of Israel on social media gets immediately banned and targeted. Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni : "Anti-semitic", "its a trick we always use it" to stifle legitimate criticism of Jews and Zionist Israel. Avner Falk similarly writes: "The German word antisemitisch was first used in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider (1816–1907) in the phrase antisemitische Vorurteile (antisemitic prejudices). Antisemitism Etymology - Wikipedia Long before the word antisemitism was part of our vocabulary Cicero (died 43 BC) 'apparently' said the following ... "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers." ― Marcus Tullius Cicero Sources - Six (6) years ago Trigger warnings ‘needed for Bible’ | News | The Times [Nov. 23, 2018] European Jewish Congress Triggered By Koran And Bible (forward.com) [Nov. 26, 2018] Jewish leaders call for religious texts to carry warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages | Daily Mail Online [Nov. 23, 2018] Aside from the Bible and the Koran, what other religious texts will be revised? Hinduism Buddhism Paganism Sikhism Jainism Does this mean new editions of the Talmud will include anti-gentilism warnings? Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions | My Jewish Learning Anti-Gentilism Is A Thing According To Jewish Author (riseupoceancounty.com) Anti-Gentilism Causes Antisemitism | Plato's Guns (platosguns.com) The Longest Hatred: An Examination of Anti-gentilism - Jane Birdwood - Google Books Anti-Gentilism-The hate that dare not speak its name [A Jewish POV] Download this video before it gets taken down. Anti-Gentilism-The hate that dare not speak its name (8-11-21) Charlotte Allen writes: Gentiles were also among Roth’s lifelong fixations as antagonists. He was ever on the alert for anti-Semitism, both real and imagined. He even classified Bloom, herself Jewish, as an anti-Semite; apparently, it was fine for Roth to rib his fellow Jews, but not Bloom. As an undergraduate at Bucknell University he found it “especially hateful” (Bailey’s words) that Bucknell during the 1950s required its students to attend weekly Christian chapel—leading me, at least, to wonder why, if that were so, Roth hadn’t picked a less sectarian institution of higher learning. In Roth’s fiction, gentiles are usually a curious mix of alcoholics, layabouts, thugs, wife-beaters, nymphomaniacs, genteel underachievers, and nascent Nazis: “goyish chaos,” as he called it. Roth had many gentile friends and many, many gentile lovers, but he insisted upon perpetually casting himself as the maligned and persecuted outsider... Roth was indeed a brilliantly vivid writer, with a genius for recreating the human scene in sharp-eyed detail and with dialogue that uncannily mimicked heard speech. He could also write lyrically when he wanted to. He was not, however, as great a writer as he thought he was. As Shulevitz pointed out, he wrote a few great novels over the decades (his Pulitzer Prize-winning American Pastoral, published in 1997 and surprisingly sex scene-free, is likely among them), with the rest ranging “from good to terrible” in Shulevitz’s words. His admirable work ethic (inherited from his insurance-agent father) required him to spend eight hours a day every weekday writing, but the result was that he wrote much too much. The Human Stain (2000), about a distinguished professor, a black man who has renounced his ethnicity and passed for Jewish, only to be forced into retirement by accusations of racism over a chance remark in class, is a page-turner, but it has its longeurs—worked-over set pieces that go on and on, such as the 10 pages devoted to the disgraced professor’s three-decades-younger girlfriend’s dancing naked in front of him after the two have had sex. Roth never knew when to stop, and criticisms that he wrote the same novel over and over, and even the same passages over and over, were not unfounded. Furthermore, he had trouble creating believable characters other than the many versions of himself—Alexander Portnoy, David Kepesh, the Roth-like writer Nathan Zuckerman (who shows up in nine Roth novels, including American Pastoral and The Human Stain), and even a pair of “Philip Roths”—whom he made his talky first-person narrators over the years. Lack of “roundness” isn’t just a problem with Roth’s female figures, but with all of them. They can be colorful enough—dazzling, Dickens-like sketches—but it is hard to believe that they could actually exist. To his Bard students of 1992, whom he characterized in his notes as saturated with “puritanical feminism,” Roth defended Sabbath’s Theater’s lascivious Drenka Balich with her English-as-a-second-language malapropisms, as “every bit as nasty/interesting” (Bailey’s phrase) as his male protagonist, Mickey Sabbath. But in fact Drenka, the self-described “sidekicker,” with a carnal appetite that defies realism, is yet another broadly drawn Roth cartoon. "To learn who rules over you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize." Google's biased (AI) Algorithms are programmed to calculate, assess, and censor any criticism of Jews. Observation: The information below was posted on the DI Forums, December 9, 2023. On that date, if you typed in the Google search engine, with the question below for example; Who would be Herod's counterparts today? Then clicking on Google news, several results would appear, These were the top three results for December 9, 2023. Colombia's president slams Netanyahu, compares him to Herod (aa.com.tr) The New Herodians - Tablet Magazine Smotrich Is Israel’s Worst Finance Minister Since King Herod - Opinion - Haaretz.com Now try doing that today, on December 21, 2023 Only 12 days later, you'd find there's only a single result. Do Unbiased Search Engines Exist? The algorithms that assess, sort, and rank results for search queries are inherently biased—that is, they give priority to results that fit certain criteria. Google's algorithms are not available to the public, but they do share best practices, which reveal the types of content they are biased towards.Apr 7, 2021 Consider using a Tor line for dark web journalism sources which would normally get filtered on mainstream search engines like Google. The Destruction of Gaza’s Internet Is Complete | WIRED My guess is that due to the current genocide happening in Gaza on Palestinian Muslims and Christians, based on human interactions, Google's (AI) quickly filters any info. that could be used against the members of the Jewish community which depicts them in a negative light. Compare the (AI) algorithms built into Google or The Internet, to the Oracle at Delphi What we are seeing may be one of the many influences of Hellenistic Judaism in our modern times. Sources Jun 11, 2022 — The Google engineer who thinks the company's AI has come to life The Washington Post Google’s AI passed the Turing test — and showed how it's broken - The Washington Post Google's AI thinks for itself - Google Search Are we reading into it? search engines are like the oracle at delphi - Google Search Digital Idolatry The (AI) built in the Net appears to behave like a digital oracle. From Delphi to Google: Ancient Oracle to Modern-Day Search Engines Sep 18, 2021 — In ancient Greece the people relied heavily on oracles to predict the future, reveal secrets and information to their deepest questions. Eventually when the Jewish Moshiach (the biblical Antichrist) makes an appearance, it may be a version of the gnostic Jesus. They Want To Read Your Brain Waves To be continued ... . Edited December 21, 2023 by The OC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, The OC said: "To learn who rules over you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize." That'll be the misses then! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 On 12/14/2023 at 6:16 AM, The OC said: An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.” THE LEGEND OF THE TWO WOLVES || Native American Legend - YouTube % 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) "The biggest insult to the memory of the holocaust is not denying it but using it as an excuse to justify the genocide of the Palestinian people." - Norman Finkelstein Since October 7, Israel has launched a total war on Gaza, indiscriminately bombing the strip and killing over 19,600 Palestinians. This has led some experts to say Israel is guilty of committing genocide in the occupied territory. But what constitutes genocide? Dr. Penny Green and Astha Sharma Pokharel break down the United Nations' definition of genocide, and the stages leading up to it, to explore if it applies to what’s happening in Gaza. Is Israel Guilty Of Genocide? The pillars of Zionist propaganda In response to historical trauma, Jewish people have a deep fear of anti-Semitism. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, this fear, along with disdain for oppressors, led to the formation of autonomous Jewish self-defence groups in various geographies. Zionism, a European colonial movement, recognised the potential of this dynamic. It syncretised Jewish longing for safety and self-defence with white supremacist, messianic and fascistic ideologies. This synthesis birthed a new, nationalist Jewish identity that equates Jewish safety with the construction of an exclusivist homeland in Palestine through the displacement of the region’s Indigenous populations. The anatomy of Zionist genocide | Israel-Palestine conflict | Al Jazeera As civilian deaths climb in Gaza, some advocates and experts are accusing Israel of carrying out genocide against the Palestinian people. CBC’s Anya Zoledziowski explores what actually constitutes genocide and why the term is being used more frequently in this conflict. Is what’s happening in Gaza genocide? Using American bombs to deliberately target refugee camps, hospitals, schools and other densely populated areas, Israel has killed over 19,0000 Palestinians in its genocidal war on Gaza. Additionally, 52,000 Palestinians have been injured, with more than 8,000 reported missing, feared dead or trapped under the rubble. Ali Abunimah, Director of The Electronic Intifada and author of the Battle for Justice In Palestine, breaks down the latest developments in the Israeli onslaught of Gaza and why Israel can never win. 3 Months of Genocide in Gaza: Why Israel Will Never Win w/ Ali Abunimah How long will it be before Zionists decide to make your country part of Greater Israel? Please share this with others around the world . Edited December 24, 2023 by The OC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The OC Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 12/20/2023 at 8:49 PM, The OC said: Fake Valor: Why Did Zionist Jews Hoist Nazis Flag on Their Ships in the 1930s? Facts about the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement between Ben-Gurion & Hitler (1933 - late 39) - Palestine Remembered Looking through the content in the link above, where would someone begin to fact check? Zionists were the only non-Nazi parties allowed to operate in Nazi Germany! Pay attention to Betar's SS-look-like uniforms! מכון ז'בוטינסקי | Item (jabotinsky.org) Troops of Betar in Uniform Berlin 1936 - Google Search DYSTOPIAN SOCIETIES WILL SOON BECOME A FRIGHTENING REALITY IN OUR WORLD! Nazism, fascism, and communism are just extended branches of applied satanism. The sooner people consider that The El-ite created both Communism and Nazism, the sooner people will have the veil of deception lifted from their eyes. Research [VIDEOS] The Historical, Religious, & Political Implications of Zionism [VIDEO] Palestinian Christians - a history of oppression and displacement Who are Lucifer's Dark Shepherds? Did Blacks, Jews & Asians fight for the Nazis? CONQUEST - This is Zionism, the core of #Israel Is Cyprus next after Gaza? Which Wolf Will Win? Historical revisionism and historical negationism become deceptive weapons in the hands of tyrants. Is a person's cultural heritage worth fighting for, or is it better to just allow another group to define who you are? The El-itists are trying to provoke ethnic Europeans to react. The best way to react is to expose the El-itists plans as they unfold using the same technologies which are at our disposal. George Santayana: “To know your future you must know your past” "History can be a weapon, and it can be used against you" - James W. Loewen “To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?” ― Marcus Tullius Cicero Looking through this website, assuming the information is correct, the research strongly suggests a connection between Zionism, Nazism and Communism. Regarding WWII post war society, was the creation of the State of Israel, part of both the Axis & Allies agenda? Nazism, fascism, and communism are just extended branches of applied satanism. Which of the three authors made reference to the 'satanic' and why would they do that, for dramatic purposes or was there any truth to these claims? "The narco-war is based upon a satanic strategy envisaged by Lenin and developed under Stalin by ..." (pg.2) "... following the strategic adjustment completed in 1991 when the Communist strategists switched to pursuing their manic World Revolutionary objectives through covert Communism and a 'new form' of reversible 'state-controlled capitalism' - working, as Lenin taught his 'illuminated' followers, 'by other means'." (pg.4) "The self-evidently satanic nature of this programme should come as no surprise: after all, Marx became a satanist in his late teens[2] ; Lenin is known to have attended at least one satanic event ('black mass') on the island of Capri; and Stalin (and of course the 'national' socialist, Hitler) were preoccupied almost exclusively with the agenda of the inhabitants of 'the bottomless pit' - death." (pg.9) Hunters (2020 TV series) - Wikipedia Al Pacino as Meyer Offerman / Wilhelm Zuchs, a Nazi who evaded arrest by murdering a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor named Meyer Offerman, then undergoing plastic surgery to resemble him so Zuchs could steal his identity. It is under this stolen identity that Zuchs, who has amassed great wealth and became a philanthropist, recruits and leads the Hunters. It is Pacino's first-ever TV series lead role; said the long-time actor, "I missed out on some great television offers I had in the past because the whole thing was: 'You don't do television.' That's what the advisors would say early on. I'm talking 30 years ago."[8] In this TV Series a Nazi pretends to be a Jew. While in this one, Communists pretend to be Americans. Are Hollywood filmmakers trying to tell us something? The sooner people consider that The El-ite created both Communism and Nazism, the sooner people will have the veil of deception lifted from their eyes. What do you think? . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) Quote Disclaimer: The following views expressed below are my own, they do not represent the views of most Orthodox Christians, nor do they represent the official position of The Holy Orthodox Church PAY ATTENTION NOW! In my opinion, I believe that the final battle of Armageddon will not be The Gentiles (Goyim) against the Jews. It will be Jews against Jews only one side will accept Jesus as the Messiah and the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, according to the teachings of the Eastern Orthodox Church, while the other will be a mixture of neopagan Gnostics involved in the global Luciferian deception. To prepare for the battle of Armageddon which according to some occultists, is being fought in cyberspace right now. CERN experiments may have caused a ripple effect in the space time continuum. (Watch @ 1 : 17 : 00) Kabbalah Chat with The Jew Function “We NEEDED an Opposing Force!” https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Kabbalah-Jew-Function:6 Here's an example of "an opposing force” Who are Lucifer's Dark Shepherds? “We NEEDED the Opposing Force!” Who are Lucifer's Dark Shepherds? Think of scientists working with matter and antimatter The struggle between opposing forces breathes life into the war machine The ongoing battle between the forces of good vs. the forces of evil. This appears to describe the organic interaction between positive and negative energies. If harnessed and controlled, this can bring on "The Sensation of Oneness" which practitioners of the occult seek to experience. "Some describe it as an oceanic experience, a unity with all things." It's a type of applied Luciferianism! Where it concerns the common Jews and Gentiles, these false Jews of the synagogue of satan are given one task. Cause the commoners to sin any way they can, and drag them to hell along with them. If ritualists die at the hands of the Christians, this would be a kind of demonic martyrdom as opposed to a Divine Martyrdom and may lessen the torments awaiting them in hell, while at the same time they get to collect souls for their god Lucifer. For some of the false Jews like the Pharisees and Sadducees who chose to reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah, they may have maintained an unholy alliance with Dark Forces. As an example it's a win for the realm of the enemies of Christ to get Russian Orthodox and Ukrainian Orthodox to destroy one another. Rabbinical Judaism vs Mosaic or Biblical Judaism Can you tell the difference? Rabbinic Judaism is an explicit denial of Christ as the promised Messiah. It is incompatible with Christianity on that basis alone. Rabbinic Jews still await their messiah, whom Christians assert not only has already come, but Who is God Incarnate. While we could stop there, there is much more to consider such as the impact of Zionism. Orthodox Christianity and Zionism are Morally Incompatible - Orthodox Reflections https://orthodoxreflections.com/orthodox-christianity-and-zionism-are-morally-incompatible/ Collective Guilt: A Theology of the Jewish Culture as Continuous Deicide - Orthodox Reflections https://orthodoxreflections.com/collective-guilt-a-theology-of-the-jewish-culture-as-continuous-deicide/ The ancient Jewish prophets, apostles and saints were most definitely a holy people. Just as modern Egyptians, Romans Greeks, and Chinese have lost their ancient culture due to wars, ideological infiltration (communism), foreign invasions, natural disasters etc., so too have the modern Jews. They're a different breed altogether. Nowadays anyone who even hints at criticizing modern Jews or the state of Israel on social media gets immediately banned and targeted. Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni once stated: "Anti-semitic", "it's a trick we always use to stifle legitimate criticism of Jews and Zionist Israel." Anti-semitic? - Church Eclipse Church Eclipse - Hidden History - Church Eclipse Note: To establish the legitimacy of this organization, I was unable to find any signs of a real-world presence. Avner Falk wrote: "The German word antisemitisch was first used in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider (1816–1907) in the phrase antisemitische Vorurteile (antisemitic prejudices). Antisemitism - Wikipedia Long before the word antisemitism was part of our vocabulary Cicero (died 43 BC) 'apparently' said the following; "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers." ― Marcus Tullius Cicero Clearly the Jews who became the first Christians were a different group from the Jews Cicero describes in the quote above. Revelation 2:9 “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” King James Version (KJV) Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” King James Version (KJV) Were they the same group of Jews who from the time of Moses worshipped the golden calf? Were they the same group of Jews who crucified our Lord Jesus Christ? Did you know that many of the Canons of the Church expressly forbid Christians from even sitting at the same table with Jews to break bread? The people who wrote these Canons (Church Laws) were holy people. They were not written from a place of anger or hatred, because they truly did love and feel deep compassion for all people around the world. The Canons were written long before the term antisemitism was even created. So why would they write these laws in the first place? To protect the Christian flock. For centuries the Orthodox Church knew all about the ritual sacrifices taking place in secret, and other forms of satanic worship and witchcraft. I'm not suggesting most modern Jewish people take part in these crimes, however I do believe these satanic rituals are being performed by people masquerading as clergy who are affiliated with mainstream religions. Whether they're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh etc. See Smokescreens & Decoys The Great Deception False Memories Unethical human experimentation Harming people on social media Have you ever wondered why so many men and women around the world are involved in crimes against children? Click the link below. The battle between good and evil has been fought from the very beginning. Many of the ancient Jews, the real Jews were holy people who to this day are venerated as Saints of the Church. Sadly most Jews of today have nothing to do with them. What we consider demonic THEY consider holy and vice versa THEY'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFTER CHRIST THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN AFTER CHRIST! They want to dethrone Jesus and help the fallen angel Lucifer take the throne of Our Blessed Holy Trinity. I don't believe that would ever happen, because Our Lord said; Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The Devil's trick is to bring people to Christ and then draw them away from Him. To lose faith in Jesus and His Church after they embraced Him. . Edited December 27, 2023 by The OC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReptileSlayer Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/14/2023 at 7:16 AM, The OC said: The first rule of Unrestricted Warfare is that there are no rules with nothing forbidden! Satan and Demons — St. Andrew Greek Orthodox Church (saintandrewgoc.org) "The devil, diavolos, it means the one who divides, the one who separates and distorts." Divide & Rule It seems there's more profit and power to be made when people are divided. If a leadership of both sides is Playing Both Sides, that's Running Both Sides.(RBS) A few examples of Running Both Sides.(RBS) Pro-Zionists vs alleged Anti-Zionists in the Jewish community Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss is an activist and spokesperson for Neturei Karta, which vocally opposes Zionism and the state of Israel. Irrespective of whether or not the Palestinian people was affected or the land was uninhabited, Neturei Karta say the Jewish people didn't have a right to self-determination. The establishment of the state of Israel prior to the coming of the Messiah is sinful and an act of rebellion against God. Weiss says Jews yearn to return to the Holy Land and pray to God to bring about that end day, but in the meantime, they are tasked with patiently waiting, serving God, being loyal citizens and upholding the Torah in every land in which they live. This interview was conducted by Dr. Safiyyah Ally at Reviving the Islamic Spirit convention in Toronto in December 2023. Below was an example of Pro-vaxxers vs Anti-vaxxers in the Jewish community under Covid lockdowns. Baltimore Rabbis Call Community to Vaccinate Against Covid (collive.com) Hashem gave us a gift - the Covid-19 vaccines: Schluchim Rabbi Shmuel Kaplan and Rabbi Elchonon Lisbon and the rabbonim of Baltimore recorded a video calling on the Jewish community to get vaccinated (Pro-Vaxxers) Dr. Zelenko speaks to a Rabbinical court in Jerusalem - America's Frontline Doctors (americasfrontlinedoctors.org) (Watch @ 12:00) Bill Gates said last year, seven billion people need to be vaccinated, the death rate will be over two billion people. So wake up! This is World War Three! This is a level of malfeasance and malevolence we have not seen probably in the history of humanity. I'm against child sacrifice ... and I really believe that this G-d (The Talmudic G-d?) is testing every human being. And here is the test: Are you going to bow down to me, to Hashem. Are you going to ask for protection from me, are you going to take your fear and ask me to help, or are you going to run for the vaccine of your governments of despots, and tyrants like sociopaths? (Anti-Vaxxers) Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Orthodox Christianity and Zionism are Morally Incompatible Despite efforts to “link” the two faiths via the phrase “Judeo-Christian”, Orthodox Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism are incompatible religiously, morally, and culturally. As is Orthodoxy with “Christian Zionism”. Not long after I posted this video on the forum, Brother Nathanael's channel was permanently removed from YouTube. THEY did not want to be exposed! Question - Could the rulers of nations who love war, the powers and principalities, be socially engineering prophecy for the coming of the false Moshiach, the biblical Antichrist? THE EL-itists A Letter to the Rulers of Nations Who Love War (Elder Philotheos Zervakos) THE AMALEK SYNDROME Watch Brother Nathanael's videos here: Bible with Brother Why I Left Judaism Judaism was my childhood religion in practice and learning, all my social groups were Jewish, my role models were Jewish, my best friends were Jewish, everything pointed to me being Jewish, including my face and habits. But I couldn't make it work, I left Judaism. This is my personal story. It seems many Jews and Gentiles, Israelis and radical Islamists, are themselves in the spirit of Amalek, the spirit of The Antichrist. Matthew 7:20 “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” (KJV) An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.” THE LEGEND OF THE TWO WOLVES || Native American Legend - YouTube God would not order the genocide of humans. Amalek are Nephilim, so not human. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ReptileSlayer said: God would not order the genocide of humans. Amalek are Nephilim, so not human. Altering the historical narrative through linguistic revisionism The information on Wikipedia's Antisemitism page has been thoroughly revised. How can there be a Timeline of antisemitism before the creation of the term, which was first used "in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider (1816–1907) in the phrase antisemitische Vorurteile (antisemitic prejudices)"? The answer to that question may be found in linguistic revisionism. Linguistic Revisionism - The New York Times (nytimes.com) The Struggle Against Revisionism in the Field of Linguistics (marxists.org) Antisemitism - Ancient World History of antisemitism - Wikipedia Ideologically Motivated Linguistic Revisionism - Bleeding Heart Libertarians In historiography, historical revisionism is the reinterpretation of a historical account.[1] It usually involves challenging the orthodox (established, accepted or traditional) views held by professional scholars about a historical event or timespan or phenomenon, introducing contrary evidence, or reinterpreting the motivations and decisions of the people involved. The revision of the historical record can reflect new discoveries of fact, evidence, and interpretation, which then results in revised history. In dramatic cases, revisionism involves a reversal of older moral judgments. Historical revisionism - Wikipedia Source - QUORA "One of the greatest examples, while being one of the most overlooked forms, of historical revisionism is one in which almost every state in the world participates. I am referring to the historical revisionism that is used for the sake of nation building. The breed of historical revisionism that states partake in can often be better referred to as historical distortion." Read More Note that there is nothing wrong with historical revisionism in itself. That is if it is done without bias or underlying motives. Historians are constantly analyzing evidence or research that results in the re-interpretation of history. This is a normal part of history. The prevalent theories change with time as new information comes to light. Each country has its own version of historical revisionism for establishing a national narrative among the domestic population. A version of history that gives that nation a unique and grand history. One that sets them apart (often in a manner of superiority) from other nations. It is essentially a country “re-writing” its own history at the moment of its inception to create a grand identity. A common form of historical revisionism is to associate that country with ancient successful empires, who are declared to have been predecessors of the state or ancestors of the people. Another common form is to downplay, omit, or re-write the troublesome parts of a nation’s history. Note that this historical “re-writing” is not done to challenge the pre-existing theories in the professional historian communities, but rather for the sake of indoctrination of the domestic populace into the national narrative. Some of the more developed countries, with a large pre-existing intelligentsia class, are able to indulge in this historical revisionism in a meticulous manner. It carefully analyzes historical facts to set up a national narrative that is able to withstand some level of scrutiny or cross-examination. Examples being countries like Russia, Israel, and some other European nations. Other countries, which are poor and developing, partake in this historical revisionism in a hilariously clumsy manner. Outright false (and often laughable) versions of history are taught to the domestic populace for the sake of indoctrination of the youth into the national narrative. Afghanistan and Pakistan both serve as good examples. This form of national indoctrination commonly starts at a very young age within schools, so that the national narrative is ingrained into the minds of the populace by the time they become adults. Most of what we learn as children is what we are taught by our teachers is schools. There are multiple examples off the top of my head of clumsy efforts at historical revisionism by the Afghan and Pakistani states. Look at the Afghan national narrative of the Afghan nation having a five thousand year old history as an example. An idea that is clearly ridiculous, given that even the Great Pyramid of Giza is not quite that ancient. Or the historical revisionism to claim the Ghaznavid Empire to have been at least “half-Pashtun”, despite the historical evidence suggesting otherwise, for the sake of association with one of the most successful empires based out of Afghanistan. Similarly, the Pakistani national narrative that promotes the Arab general Muhammad Bin Qasim as the “first Pakistani” to serve the national narrative of the Two-Nation Theory. Or association with random Islamic historical figures that have next to nothing to do with Pakistan. A re-writing of that is often just laughable. A recently promoted narrative by Pakistani nationalists is that Pakistan and India have nothing in common, as they belong to different civilizations (Indus vs Ganges civilization). Or that Pakistan is actually the real India (Indus Civilization), rather than India itself. The purpose being to try to dissociate Pakistan completely from India. Unfortunately for them, these theories has no real basis in history. Some of the recent attempts of historical revisionism by the Indian right-wing also seem similarly clumsy. These are all clumsy forms of historical revisionism that can be proven false by five minutes of online research. However, as I mentioned before, the purpose is just to indoctrinate the local population. That is why millions of people from both nations believe these national narratives. And will refuse to acknowledge anything that counters these narratives that they have heard since childhood. I am sure that most other countries have their own versions of historical revisionism/distortion for the sake of a national narrative as well. I did not mention them, as I am more familiar with the national narratives promoted in this part of the world. Now, this isn’t to say that historical revisionism by states is a modern invention. But, it has become common practice since the onset of the modern era, as the common public has become literate. There are numerous examples of states or dynasties partaking in this form of historical revisionism. It was very common for newly-arisen dynasties to write their own historiography or “version of history” throughout the ancient and medieval era. The purpose being to elevate the story or history own dynasty, while vilifying their rivals. Take for example the Timurid historiography that conjured up a grand early history (prior to Timur) of their ancestors who were descended from a mythical Mongol queen. Or the historical revisionism by the Mughal emperors to improve the image of Timur among the Muslim elite within India. We can also look at the story of Osman’s Dream that was “discovered” by the Ottomans centuries after his death to create a foundational semi-divine myth for the empire. The truth is that the history of this form of historical revisionism by states or dynasties goes back to the very beginning. The manner in which the Mughal historiography was able to change the perception of Timur, their great ancestor, in the minds of the Muslim elite of the Indian Subcontinent is nothing short of fascinating. Remember that Timur was the man who closed the book on the golden age of the Sultanate of Delhi. . Edited December 27, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReptileSlayer Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The OC said: Altering the historical narrative through linguistic revisionism The information on Wikipedia's Antisemitism page has been thoroughly revised. How can there be a Timeline of antisemitism before the creation of the term, which was first used "in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider (1816–1907) in the phrase antisemitische Vorurteile (antisemitic prejudices)"? The answer to that question may be found in linguistic revisionism. Linguistic Revisionism - The New York Times (nytimes.com) The Struggle Against Revisionism in the Field of Linguistics (marxists.org) Antisemitism - Ancient World History of antisemitism - Wikipedia Ideologically Motivated Linguistic Revisionism - Bleeding Heart Libertarians In historiography, historical revisionism is the reinterpretation of a historical account.[1] It usually involves challenging the orthodox (established, accepted or traditional) views held by professional scholars about a historical event or timespan or phenomenon, introducing contrary evidence, or reinterpreting the motivations and decisions of the people involved. The revision of the historical record can reflect new discoveries of fact, evidence, and interpretation, which then results in revised history. In dramatic cases, revisionism involves a reversal of older moral judgments. Historical revisionism - Wikipedia Source - QUORA "One of the greatest examples, while being one of the most overlooked forms, of historical revisionism is one in which almost every state in the world participates. I am referring to the historical revisionism that is used for the sake of nation building. The breed of historical revisionism that states partake in can often be better referred to as historical distortion." Read More Note that there is nothing wrong with historical revisionism in itself. That is if it is done without bias or underlying motives. Historians are constantly analyzing evidence or research that results in the re-interpretation of history. This is a normal part of history. The prevalent theories change with time as new information comes to light. Each country has its own version of historical revisionism for establishing a national narrative among the domestic population. A version of history that gives that nation a unique and grand history. One that sets them apart (often in a manner of superiority) from other nations. It is essentially a country “re-writing” its own history at the moment of its inception to create a grand identity. A common form of historical revisionism is to associate that country with ancient successful empires, who are declared to have been predecessors of the state or ancestors of the people. Another common form is to downplay, omit, or re-write the troublesome parts of a nation’s history. Note that this historical “re-writing” is not done to challenge the pre-existing theories in the professional historian communities, but rather for the sake of indoctrination of the domestic populace into the national narrative. Some of the more developed countries, with a large pre-existing intelligentsia class, are able to indulge in this historical revisionism in a meticulous manner. It carefully analyzes historical facts to set up a national narrative that is able to withstand some level of scrutiny or cross-examination. Examples being countries like Russia, Israel, and some other European nations. Other countries, which are poor and developing, partake in this historical revisionism in a hilariously clumsy manner. Outright false (and often laughable) versions of history are taught to the domestic populace for the sake of indoctrination of the youth into the national narrative. Afghanistan and Pakistan both serve as good examples. This form of national indoctrination commonly starts at a very young age within schools, so that the national narrative is ingrained into the minds of the populace by the time they become adults. Most of what we learn as children is what we are taught by our teachers is schools. There are multiple examples off the top of my head of clumsy efforts at historical revisionism by the Afghan and Pakistani states. Look at the Afghan national narrative of the Afghan nation having a five thousand year old history as an example. An idea that is clearly ridiculous, given that even the Great Pyramid of Giza is not quite that ancient. Or the historical revisionism to claim the Ghaznavid Empire to have been at least “half-Pashtun”, despite the historical evidence suggesting otherwise, for the sake of association with one of the most successful empires based out of Afghanistan. Similarly, the Pakistani national narrative that promotes the Arab general Muhammad Bin Qasim as the “first Pakistani” to serve the national narrative of the Two-Nation Theory. Or association with random Islamic historical figures that have next to nothing to do with Pakistan. A re-writing of that is often just laughable. A recently promoted narrative by Pakistani nationalists is that Pakistan and India have nothing in common, as they belong to different civilizations (Indus vs Ganges civilization). Or that Pakistan is actually the real India (Indus Civilization), rather than India itself. The purpose being to try to dissociate Pakistan completely from India. Unfortunately for them, these theories has no real basis in history. Some of the recent attempts of historical revisionism by the Indian right-wing also seem similarly clumsy. These are all clumsy forms of historical revisionism that can be proven false by five minutes of online research. However, as I mentioned before, the purpose is just to indoctrinate the local population. That is why millions of people from both nations believe these national narratives. And will refuse to acknowledge anything that counters these narratives that they have heard since childhood. I am sure that most other countries have their own versions of historical revisionism/distortion for the sake of a national narrative as well. I did not mention them, as I am more familiar with the national narratives promoted in this part of the world. Now, this isn’t to say that historical revisionism by states is a modern invention. But, it has become common practice since the onset of the modern era, as the common public has become literate. There are numerous examples of states or dynasties partaking in this form of historical revisionism. It was very common for newly-arisen dynasties to write their own historiography or “version of history” throughout the ancient and medieval era. The purpose being to elevate the story or history own dynasty, while vilifying their rivals. Take for example the Timurid historiography that conjured up a grand early history (prior to Timur) of their ancestors who were descended from a mythical Mongol queen. Or the historical revisionism by the Mughal emperors to improve the image of Timur among the Muslim elite within India. We can also look at the story of Osman’s Dream that was “discovered” by the Ottomans centuries after his death to create a foundational semi-divine myth for the empire. The truth is that the history of this form of historical revisionism by states or dynasties goes back to the very beginning. The manner in which the Mughal historiography was able to change the perception of Timur, their great ancestor, in the minds of the Muslim elite of the Indian Subcontinent is nothing short of fascinating. Remember that Timur was the man who closed the book on the golden age of the Sultanate of Delhi. . How does this relate to my comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 https://rumble.com/v3yk7fb-israel-is-building-a-55-billion-canal-through-gaza-billion-dollar-builds.html I wonder if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ReptileSlayer said: How does this relate to my comment? You wrote: "God would not order the genocide of humans. Amalek are Nephilim, so not human." By introducing a different point of view coming from another perspective, it can help to piece together a better understanding of a larger problem. Understand Your... Point of View Point of view is literally “the place” from which you view something. It includes what you are looking at and the way you are seeing it. Make sure you understand the limitations of your point of view and that you fully consider other relevant viewpoints. Questions to check your point of view How am I looking at this situation? Is there another way to look at it that I should consider? What exactly am I focused on? And how am I seeing it? Is my view the only reasonable view? What does my point of view ignore? Have you ever considered the way ____(Japanese, Muslims, South Americans, etc.) view this? Which of these possible viewpoints makes the most sense given the situation? Am I having difficulty looking at this situation from a viewpoint with which I disagree? What is the point of view of the author of this story? Do I study viewpoints that challenge my personal beliefs? Edited December 27, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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