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Is it just me or are ‘spiritual’ people fast asleep in the matrix?


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The issue is that 'spiritual' is associated with the 'good' and try to find your higher-self and the highest-good, etc, ignoring evil and all the bad that exists, which is also part of creation on equal measure. Spiritual movements AVOID the negative, and that's where they're going wrong, they are blind to the truth :/ Evil is necessary, it is 'good' for us to exist and experience life. Just observe nature. Simple.

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@atenea

That is true ... but why?

Because to become a force of nature you need the thunderclouds as well as the sunshine.  Nature is like that.

However ... promoting what is "good" is trying to indicate a higher type of intelligence - it is a beginners understanding but not a bad understanding.

There are stages of spirituality.

First you need to find the Light and focus on it, then it creates a foothold inside you.   Afterwards you can integrate with that the clouds and storms and darkness together until you are an integral being.

So at the beginning you usually need to focus just on the light, otherwise you will not even begin.

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6 minutes ago, rideforever said:

@atenea

 

First you need to find the Light and focus on it, then it creates a foothold inside you.   Afterwards you can integrate with that the clouds and storms and darkness together until you are an integral being.

So at the beginning you usually need to focus just on the light, otherwise you will not even begin.

In my humble experience, "focusing on the light" is a distraction, and it's forced. Better to focus on nothingness, or even better: just be, don't "try" or "do", and then you'll see and you'll know :)

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The new age religion is a fabian socialist psyop that has grown out of freemasonry. Its adherents are navel gazing apathetics unwilling to lift a finger to make any positive change

 

Enlightenment has nothing to do with becoming better or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It's seeing through the facade of pretence. It's the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true.” Adyashanti

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On 9/10/2020 at 6:53 PM, Messenger said:

truly spiritually awakened person does not confine themself to political constructs and labels such as "liberal" or "conservative", they recognize that they may have some of both in them depending on the topic, but overall they have evolved far beyond politics and now practice treating all with respect. A truly spiritually awakened person might also have delved into the alien and UFO topic understanding that we are not alone and that it is very likely that there are other intelligent species out there in the vastness of the universe and perhaps multiverse who are as intrigued by us as some of us are by them and their ability to travel here and manipulate physicali

Nobody wants to listen 

They all lay platitudes with the mouth and are hypocrites at heart. 

 

That being said. 

The earth is a farm and you are the cattle. 

You are not supposed to be in a human host body. 

The human body is a transmutation device. 

You are EXILES. 

https://youtu.be/7v554QtlGKs

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12 hours ago, rideforever said:

There are stages of spirituality.

First you need to find the Light and focus on it, then it creates a foothold inside you.   Afterwards you can integrate with that the clouds and storms and darkness together until you are an integral being.

So at the beginning you usually need to focus just on the light, otherwise you will not even begin.

Just out of interest ,what spiritual stage do you see yourself at as I would have thought a statement like   I F**** Hate Everybody On This Planet was not conducive to the spiritual doctrine

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3 minutes ago, peter said:

Just out of interest ,what spiritual stage do you see yourself at as I would have thought a statement like   I F**** Hate Everybody On This Planet was not conducive to the spiritual doctrine

 

Why?  All the Buddha and Jesus did was point out how fallen the entire society is, and that goes also for Laozi in China and the ancient greeks and Romans from Marcus Aurelius to Seneca.

 

Your problem is that you never actually studied any of these things so your superficial and vain ideas about spirituality come from the TV.

 

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1 hour ago, rideforever said:

 

Why?  All the Buddha and Jesus did was point out how fallen the entire society is, and that goes also for Laozi in China and the ancient greeks and Romans from Marcus Aurelius to Seneca.

 

Your problem is that you never actually studied any of these things so your superficial and vain ideas about spirituality come from the TV.

 

I don't watch the useless TV, so what is your next assumption about me

I just asked you a simple question ,nothing more , nothing less ,which you avoided I might add

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On 9/10/2020 at 3:38 AM, Seeker said:

I can’t be the only person who has noticed this but almost all spiritual people I’ve met in life are totally asleep to what’s truly going on in the world, NWO agenda, depopulation, elite Satanism, non human entities etc. Even on a spiritual forum I sometimes read out of curiosity they are all fast asleep. Is this what the new age movement is about? ‘Raising your vibe’ ‘not looking at negative things’ etc meaning that it results in ignorance to what’s going on... has anyone else experienced this or got any explanations? 

Not me mate! I'm wide awake to everything and everybody .

However nothing is perfect 

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57 minutes ago, peter said:

I don't watch the useless TV, so what is your next assumption about me

I just asked you a simple question ,nothing more , nothing less ,which you avoided I might add

 

No you didn't.  You made a sarcastic statement dressed up as a question and show your ignorance of all things spiritual at the same time.

 

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40 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

No you didn't.  You made a sarcastic statement dressed up as a question and show your ignorance of all things spiritual at the same time.

 

 

No I didn't , if you made the statement  I F**** Hate Everybody On This Planet and you were simply venting and don't really hate everyone ,fair enough but if you do indeed genuinely hate every one or feel ill towards most people I was wondering how  you would rationalize that  and still be a spiritual being .

I obviously didn't ask the question correctly so I apologize for that

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@peter

You are not asking a question you are having a dig.

I suggest to you that you start to be more honest, and if you are unhappy or angry or want to criticise somebody ... then just do it like a man.

And don't pretend to be asking questions about other bullshit you have no interest in.

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15 hours ago, peter said:

Just out of interest ,what spiritual stage do you see yourself at as I would have thought a statement like   I F**** Hate Everybody On This Planet was not conducive to the spiritual doctrine

 

And therein lies the key phrase

 

spiritual doctrine

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16 hours ago, rideforever said:

Your problem is that you never actually studied any of these things so your superficial and vain ideas about spirituality come from the TV.

1 how do you know what my ideas about spirituality are? (superficial ,vain or otherwise ) and I don't watch TV

 

14 hours ago, rideforever said:

No you didn't.  You made a sarcastic statement dressed up as a question and show your ignorance of all things spiritual at the same time.

I you think I was being sarcastic ,that says more about you than anything else but I will agree with you I'm mostly ignorant when it comes to spirituality ,hence the question

13 hours ago, rideforever said:

@peter

You are not asking a question you are having a dig.

I suggest to you that you start to be more honest, and if you are unhappy or angry or want to criticise somebody ... then just do it like a man.

And don't pretend to be asking questions about other bullshit you have no interest in.

me being more honest ,you obviously don't know me

I'm not angry or unhappy and I haven't criticized you once

then just do it like a man, this is a brilliant statement as I don't like keyboards I'm not a member of any other forum or any social media. If I have something to say I prefer to do it face to face but given anonymity and I suspect distance how else do you suggest I do it?

The fact that you say you have studied it but then refer to it as bullshit in your last statement is to me very telling indeed and how do you know what I have interest in

I wont be replying again so you have a free shot

However your reply will probably indicate to me and others the answer to my first question ,being what level of spirituality are you at

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16 hours ago, HerrShultz said:

However nothing is perfect

Actually peace is perfect. 

True peace the one that paid for you twice. 

Job 22:21 Acquaint H5532 now thyself with him, and be at peace: H7999 thereby good H2896 shall come H935 unto thee.

H7999 Shawlam 

Hebrew: שׁלם

Transliteration: shâlam

Pronunciation: shaw-lam'

Definition: A primitive root; to be safe (in {mind} body or estate); figuratively to be (causatively make) completed; by implication to be friendly; by extension to reciprocate (in various applications): - make {amends} (make an) {end} {finish} {full} give {again} make {good} (re-) pay ({again}) (make) (to) (be at) peace ({-able}) that is {perfect} {perform} (make) prosper ({-ous}) {recompense} {render} {requite} make {restitution} {restore} {reward} X surely.

 

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5 hours ago, peter said:

The fact that you say you have studied it but then refer to it as bullshit in your last statement is to me very telling indeed and how do you know what I have interest in

I wont be replying again so you have a free shot

 

Your are a "drama queen", very concerned about your self image and psychologically naive.  You keep say it's "very telling" ... telling you what?

I won't be replying again .... bla bla bla  .... this is nursery school talk.

If you don't like me no problem go find somebody you do like and ask them your spiritual questions if you have any - as you say you are ignorant about it - in other words you have spent your life not finding out anything.

I suspect you are just looking for a place to say "I won't be replying again" and "it's very telling" ... these little nonsenses are what you seek.

 

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7 hours ago, CosmoGenesis said:

spiritual doctrine

 

Doctrine is for people who have a good understanding, can lead people to heaven and they form a church to do so.

 

You make a grave mistake if you think worshipping the goat is edgy or some sort of mix that is really groovy and encouraged by popular culture.

 

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8 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Your are a "drama queen", very concerned about your self image and psychologically naive.  You keep say it's "very telling" ... telling you what?

I won't be replying again .... bla bla bla  .... this is nursery school talk.

If you don't like me no problem go find somebody you do like and ask them your spiritual questions if you have any - as you say you are ignorant about it - in other words you have spent your life not finding out anything.

I suspect you are just looking for a place to say "I won't be replying again" and "it's very telling" ... these little nonsenses are what you seek.

 

Before I sign off I would be interested as to how long you have been studying spirituality ,the reason I ask this is I wish to know who I'm conversing with ,a know all up start or someone that has been at it a long while and can speak with some authority on the subject. I suspect I know the answer by you reply

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@peter   

I thought you had decided not to post again.

"You'll know the answer by your reply" ... 

Are you trying to be a mystery man or something?

Or do you just not know what you are doing?

 

If you look up under the profile some of the posts I have made on various spiritual or religious threads you can find out what I think.

 

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1 minute ago, rideforever said:

If you look up under the profile some of the posts I have made on various spiritual or religious threads you can find out what I think.

I didn't ask you what you thought I asked how long you have been studying this subject

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If you want to know what I think this forum is full of my postings about spirituality, there is an active thread on Christianity for instance take a look.   But I don't think you are interested in anything meaningful are you.

Somebody gave you a Christian name, why don't you take more interest?

 

Those little stunts you pull, that's how you do things isn't it; some people live like that their whole lives.

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