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On 4/27/2022 at 3:05 PM, Martin1234 said:

I'm trying to grow my own food in a raised bed and some flower beds. It's not easy.

 

I have limited space and not much has started growing outside yet. 

 

Some radishes, carrots beetroot and artichokes are starting. I have a couple of fruit trees, tomatoes and chili's indoors, and some beans and peas started too. Also done perennial kale plants.

 

It's going to be a struggle to feed the family at this rate!

 

You can grow potatoes in a small space if you either make a container you can access from the sides or buy one. It doesnt take up much room. Like these:

 

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6 hours ago, Martin1234 said:

I haven't bothered with potatoes.

 

I already buy mine from a local farm. They cost me a fiver for a 25kg sack, still have the dirt on them. They keep really well in the shed and last ages. They generally have them all year around, but I guess that might change if there are shortages.

 

That's why i'm growing them as it's good practice, I'm thinking of doing some gorilla growing just need to find a spot in the woods where no one goes. Going to buy some wild garlic seeds and spread them about in the woods as well. 

 

Anyone here had compost issues from shop bought this year? 

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4 hours ago, The Old Knight said:

 

That's why i'm growing them as it's good practice, I'm thinking of doing some gorilla growing just need to find a spot in the woods where no one goes. Going to buy some wild garlic seeds and spread them about in the woods as well. 

 

Anyone here had compost issues from shop bought this year? 

luckily there's a lot of wild garlic around where i am.

I've found any brand of compost I've recently has been low quality. As a result about 70% of pugs have not seeded. Now I'm using my own mix of soil, manure and home made compost

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last year in the uk you could get compost with peat in it, this year its all peat free and not half as good.  

 

i went in wilko and got some cheap seed potatoes,  found some old potato grow bags when i was i tidying up the shed so started a few bags of maris piper and charlotte off.

 

got some small tomato plants going and got strawberry's all over the garden.  

 

nice to grow a bit of you own food.

 

also got a quiet a few cans saved, keep getting a few extra each week.

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8 hours ago, The Old Knight said:

 

That's why i'm growing them as it's good practice, I'm thinking of doing some gorilla growing just need to find a spot in the woods where no one goes. Going to buy some wild garlic seeds and spread them about in the woods as well. 

 

Anyone here had compost issues from shop bought this year? 

Good on you mate. Great idea too.

 

I planted Jerusalem artichokes in my garden. Never eaten them before, but they are coming up. Apparently they grow like a 9 foot sunflower in summer which dies off. You then dig the root and they grow edible tubers like spuds.

 

Chuck a couple back in for the next year and they will keep coming.

 

I've got some chard too. I read that grows back every year.

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Some of you more experienced gardeners might know this, but I only learnt it last year and think it's an interesting tip.

 

I bought potted herb plants from the supermarket, basil and mint worked best.

 

Snip a few ends off, and take all leaves off  the cutting apart from the ends. Put them in a glass of water for a couple of weeks and they root. You can then pot them up and you have a new plant.

 

Last year i kept them on my window, but this year I made some planters out of old pallets that I'm planning to fill with herbs and lettuces.  If you buy a potted chives plant, you can snip the ends off and eat them as normal, split the clump and plant it outside. You can then keep using them when they grow back, and they survive the winter.  

 

I think there must be more top tips like this out there, it's just discovering them.

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mints a bit of a weed just don't plant it in the garden, basil is tender and doesn't like a lot of freezing weather afaik.  you can buy a lot of live herbs and plant them in bigger pots, that way you can harvest a little bit at a time and let the plant regrow.

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Martin1234 said:

Some of you more experienced gardeners might know this, but I only learnt it last year and think it's an interesting tip.

 

I bought potted herb plants from the supermarket, basil and mint worked best.

 

Snip a few ends off, and take all leaves off  the cutting apart from the ends. Put them in a glass of water for a couple of weeks and they root. You can then pot them up and you have a new plant.

 

Last year i kept them on my window, but this year I made some planters out of old pallets that I'm planning to fill with herbs and lettuces.  If you buy a potted chives plant, you can snip the ends off and eat them as normal, split the clump and plant it outside. You can then keep using them when they grow back, and they survive the winter.  

 

I think there must be more top tips like this out there, it's just discovering them.

Herbs you can buy as small pots and plant out in most of UK and that come back every year ( perennial or shrub) are

 

Sage

Thyme

Rosemary

Chives

Mint ( in a pot invasive)

Oregano

Marjoram

Lemon balm

 

There are others but these are the ones I grow. Oregano can be a bit hit a miss in very cold winters.

 

 

 

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On 4/28/2022 at 1:33 AM, The Old Knight said:

 

30 litre containers, 2 potatoes planted in each =  2lbs +  per container. I've got 5 in already just waiting on a compost delivery. 

 

Cherry tomatoes go well in hanging baskets, make sure you got netting for those brassicas as the cabbage moth will come for a visit.  

 

 

That UK 'here we grow' channel or it's new name simplify gardening is excellent for UK growing. Tony O 'Neill top guy imo.

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Also you don't need special seed potatoes.  Just plant ones from your fridge that are sprouting so can't be eaten.

 

Also scrape chilli seeds from your chillis and ditto seeds from your tomatoes just dry them out in kitchen roll first.

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8 hours ago, kj35 said:

Also you don't need special seed potatoes.  Just plant ones from your fridge that are sprouting so can't be eaten.

 

Also scrape chilli seeds from your chillis and ditto seeds from your tomatoes just dry them out in kitchen roll first.

I knew about the potatoes but not how to dry seeds. Can you dry them on kitchen paper and then use next season?

 

This thread is awesome.

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On 4/29/2022 at 8:20 AM, Bombadil said:

luckily there's a lot of wild garlic around where i am.

I've found any brand of compost I've recently has been low quality. As a result about 70% of pugs have not seeded. Now I'm using my own mix of soil, manure and home made compost

 

Haven't been able to find any in my neck of the woods over the years which I always found strange; there are still bomb craters from WW2 so I wonder if maybe the woods was picked clean during rationing back in the day. 

 

Same here with compost I got 200 litres peat free from Wickes and it just smelt of manure and there's loads of wood chips, fibrous material. Failures across the board here as well. 

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On 4/30/2022 at 10:56 PM, Martin1234 said:

I knew about the potatoes but not how to dry seeds. Can you dry them on kitchen paper and then use next season?

 

This thread is awesome.

 

I got a massive jar of bell pepper seeds, when I buy a trio from the shop I cut the core out when cooking and leave it on the kitchen side to dry out for a couple days, doesn't smell. 

When dried I just scrape the seeds off into a glass jar then put them away or a brown envelope for storage. Good to go when needed. 

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On 4/30/2022 at 1:52 PM, eddy64 said:

mints a bit of a weed just don't plant it in the garden, basil is tender and doesn't like a lot of freezing weather afaik.  you can buy a lot of live herbs and plant them in bigger pots, that way you can harvest a little bit at a time and let the plant regrow.

 

 

 

Plant mint in an old metal bucket without a bottom, then it won't spread and take over the entire plot.

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On 4/30/2022 at 2:13 PM, kj35 said:

Herbs you can buy as small pots and plant out in most of UK and that come back every year ( perennial or shrub) are

 

Sage

Thyme

Rosemary

Chives

Mint ( in a pot invasive)

Oregano

Marjoram

Lemon balm

 

There are others but these are the ones I grow. Oregano can be a bit hit a miss in very cold winters.

 

 

 

Lemon balm also takes over the entire plot in a few years. Be careful.

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Simultaneously, bird flu and swine flu have re-emerged this year and trout hatcheries have a bacterial disease, resulting in millions of fish, pigs and poultry being slaughtered. Deer have a chronic wasting sickness and BSE could return. Animals which are traditionally eaten for sustenance are being decimated.

 

There is no zombie zebra disease, kangaroo covid or flamingo flu' and aardvarks don’t have adenovirus! So, either domestic animals are being purposely contaminated, or these contagions are fictitious and the food supply is deliberately being destroyed on a false pretext.

 

Whichever it is, making meat and fish unavailable for consumption will result in real hunger, unless you fancy Billy Gates’ bugs and vaccine-infused GM leaves? I've started my allotment in an abandoned garden (my brothers) although, the result depends on a conducive climate....

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18 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

M&S don't have their cornish pasties anymore....WTF is going on???!!!!!

 

sad times, I see less tomatoes as well and they can be grown in your own back garden without any effort. 

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16 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

sad times, I see less tomatoes as well and they can be grown in your own back garden without any effort. 

 

its growers cutting back on crops they need to grow in heated greenhouses afaik.

 

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