KJV Bible & The Book Of Revelation

[JosiahIV]

On 9/13/2020 at 4:02 PM, rideforever said:

 

I have no idea whatsoever, but Christianity is very difficult to understand ... much more difficult that the Eastern traditions.

The practices in a Church do work if you do them, that I know.  And the parables are useful.  

But who was Jesus, I think that is not known really, how did he have so much power ... 

What really is his message ?

I don't know.  Like if you believe in God and make some radical insight into truth, is that what he intends, or are we supposed to develop power like him?
Most Christians though well meaning, they just talk about all sorts of things that don't seem very relevant.

Jesus' Christianity is probably not for very many, so there is an outer teaching for the wild beast people.

 

https://youtu.be/C7Btc3g0UaU
 

In Genesis, He's the breath of life
In Exodus, the Passover Lamb
In Leviticus, He's our high priest

Numbers, the fire by night
Deuteronomy, He's Moses' voice
In Joshua, He is salvation's choice

Judges, law-giver
In Ruth, the kinsmen redeemer
First and Second Samuel, our trusted prophet

In Kings and Chronicles, He's sovereign
Ezra, true and faithful scribe
Nehemiah, He's the rebuilder of broken walls and lives

In Esther, He is Mordecai's courage
In Job, the timeless redeemer
In Psalms, He is our morning song

In Proverbs, wisdom's cry
Ecclesiastes, the time and season
In the Song of Solomon, He is the lover's dream

In Isaiah, He's the prince of peace
Jeremiah, the weeping prophet
In Lamentations, the cry for Israel

Ezekiel, He's the call from sin
In Daniel, the stranger in the fire
In Hosea, He is forever faithful

In Joel, He's the Spirit's power
In Amos, the arms that carry us
In Obadiah, He's the Lord our Saviour

In Jonah, He's the great missionary
In Micah, the promise of peace
In Nahum, He is our strength and our shield

In Habakkuk and Zephaniah, He's pleading for revival
In Haggai, He restores the lost heritage

In Zecharia, our fountain
In Malachi, He's the son of righteousness
Rising with healing in His wings

In Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John
He is God, Man, Messiah
In the book of Acts, He is
The fire from Heaven

In Romans, He's the grace of God
In Corinthians, the power of love
In Galatians, He is freedom
From the curse of sin

Ephesians, our glorious treasure
Phillipians, the servant's heart
In Colossians, He's the Godhead Trinity

Thessalonians, our coming king
In Timothy, Titus, Philemon
He's our mediator and our
Faithful pastor

In Hebrews, the everlasting covenant
In James, the one who heals the sick
In First and Second Peter, He is our shepherd

In John and in Jude, He's the lover coming for His bride
In the Revelation, He's King of Kings and Lord of Lords

Just so you know :-)

[JosiahIV]

On 10/21/2020 at 3:01 AM, Maedros said:

Society is blind to the signs of the times as they were in the days of Noe; herewith my explanation on who the antagonists are that blind us, there was a post about the trinity, very interesting to see it played out here also:

 

(1) The Dragon

 Rev 12:3: "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth" 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." 

 

(2) The First Beast 

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his a power, and his seat, and great authority." - This beast represents those institutions of all sizes and types that supply the means and the muscle for the dragons work.

 

(3) The Second Beast

Rev 13:11-12 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, ed." This beast is the propaganda minister who propagates the false theology and false philosophy of the dragon which seduces the leaders and members of the nations into believing happiness and security are to found in fame, wealth and power. 

The first beast’s heads are Human Empires: the bible states that God gave humans borders and gods to rule them in response to the tower of babel. as such any nation that "flooded" its banks was considered an empire and was in direct conflict with God.
there were 10, and of them, most had already gone into obscurity.

Rome is the head that was healed, starting in ~1444 AD the nations that currently held old Rome’s land divided the world between themselves, and of them there where 10 nations. 10  nations united the world in European Governance. this was made possible by the fire and brimstone and sulfur of the guns they swept billions who fought them away with (the witnesses[ statist-christianity and aramaic religion in general] where evil, not the good guys)

also the dragon, ha satan, the devil, or ba'al, fell to earth ~ 65 million years ago (then went ahead and tried to kill all life on the planet in that time ;-) )

the second beast is Christianity / all abramic religions following ha satan and not God. This beast also is considered the Whore of Babylon, who is supposed to be the Bride of Christ, and will eventually be such.
chew the cud bro and sisters, chew the cud.

[JosiahIV]

the mark is not a mark...
"Fix these words of mine in your "hearts" and "minds"; tie them as symbols on your "hands" and bind them on your "foreheads". Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates[ all of these are thoughts and actions to take]"

the bible clearly states to the early israelites that the actions they take and the thoughts in their head, are marks upon the hand(action) and forhead(the thinking part of the brain). and as such the mark is defined as "to love the Lord your God" or to hate him. if you take the mark of the beast, you will hate God and mankind, and if you take the mark of Christ, you will to love the Lord your God, and love your enemy as yourself. 
also in revelation 13:16 the most proper translation of the text is: 
Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight COUNT the PEOPLE of the beast, for it is the PEOPLE of a 'man', and that PEOPLE is SAYING "War In The Name of God"



the book of rev. is so hacked up and mutilated from the original greek, that its no wonder christians are acting beastly- coming in peace and then speeking evil.

[Michi713]

On 2/10/2021 at 5:07 PM, JosiahIV said:

the mark is not a mark...
"Fix these words of mine in your "hearts" and "minds"; tie them as symbols on your "hands" and bind them on your "foreheads". 

This is very exciting!  The Holy Spirit told me to study John 13 and I couldn’t get over why Jesus would wash even Judas Iscariot’s feet.  Couldn’t get over it.  

But now I understand how to be marked in head and hand for God and that is to be of service to others, no matter their ways, and love and follow Gods commandments because they are just and good.  Slowly, (very slowly) I am also being washed.  

To walk in the world is hard and we need to wash each other’s feet but Jesus will clean out the garbage from our minds so we can continue to do right actions.  
 

Never mind about the enemy’s mark.   It is not any longer our concern if we are focused on Jesus. 

[DougASmall]

On 9/8/2020 at 6:49 PM, alexa said:

This is coming to a neighborhood near you.

 

First off. 

Religion means to bind in bonds. 

The truth sets you free 

 

Religion and truth are diametrically opposed. 

God is not in religion. 

 

Second, The God you are supposed to worship is 1 the father. 

 

So there has to be a unity of all. 

To come together as 1.

 

In this relm which is upside-down and backwards. 

The Lord God is secondary in this system. 

This earth you are in is Satan's creation. You are made in the tselem of the eloheem of this world. 

Hebrew: צלם

Transliteration: tselem

Pronunciation: tseh'-lem

Definition: From an unused root meaning to shade; a {phantom} that {is} (figuratively) {illusion} resemblance; hence a representative {figure} especially an idol: - {image} vain shew.

 

H430 

Hebrew: אלהים

Transliteration: 'ĕlôhîym

Pronunciation: el-o-heem'

Definition: Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural {thus} especially with the article) OF the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - {angels} X {exceeding} God (gods) ({-dess} {-ly}) X (very) {great} {judges} X mighty.

 

 

[alexa]

26 minutes ago, DougASmall said:

First off. 

Religion means to bind in bonds. 

The truth sets you free 

 

Religion and truth are diametrically opposed. 

God is not in religion. 

 

Second, The God you are supposed to worship is 1 the father. 

 

I agree @DougASmall

[JosiahIV]

[Michi713]

Some Notes On the Structure of the book of Revelations

 

You have already heard that Revelations is structured as a chiasm.  

 

From God Cares: the message of Revelation to you and your family by C. Mervyn Maxwell

 

There are two halves of Revelations.  The first, from Rev 1:10 - 14:20,  is the historical half.  From 15:1 - 22:9 is the eschatological half.  Eschatological- fancy word for concerning the end of the world. 

 

The divisions of the book and how they mirror each other is detailed in the picture below.

 

(Keep in mind that when the book was written, there were no divisions of chapters but a continuous flow.  The divisions have been created for referencing purposes.) 

 

Also, within the structure of all the groups of 7, the seven seals, trumpets, and plagues, there is a message inserted between the sixth and seventh prophecy.  

 

For instance, in the seven trumpets, after trumpet 6 (Rev 9:13-21), there’s an interruption between it and the seventh trumpet (Rev 11:15-19).  

 

There are said to be chiasms within some of the chapters as well.

[Michi713]

The Four Horsemen Are Not of the Apocalypse 

 

The Time of the End

 

When Jesus referred to ‘end times,’ he was not speaking of a span of a couple years or even twenty years.  The time of the end began at his departure and spans across at least two thousand years to the literal end of the world as we know it.

 

The horsemen in Revelations 6:1-8 are not God’s punishments to evil men at the close of time.

 

The four horsemen symbolize mankind’s own downward progression that leads to its  inevitable self-destruction.  

The first three riders are manifestations of the sole enterprise of leaders of men:  aggrandizement via exploitation.  Each rider depicts a predominant method of acquiring power.  

 

The first three horsemen do not replace each other.  They coexist.  We do not need to be wary of these horsemen because they have always been with us and are with us now, as we are subject to them.

 

Rev 6:2 

“a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering and to conquer.”

 

The white horse rider represents empire building, which spanned the centuries and geopolitical powers, and continues in the present day.  

 

Rev 6:4

“And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another:  and there was given unto him a great sword.”

 

The rider on the red horse signifies war.

 

Rev 6:5-6 

“a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.  And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and wine.”

 

The black horse and rider represent mercantilism and manipulation of currency.  

 

Rev 6:8

“behold a pale horse:  and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.  And power was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

 

These are the results of exploitation of God’s creation:  men destroying each other, coveting, losing their souls, and tearing each other limb from limb.  

 

Instead of being stewards and living in peace, according to the will of God, humans succumb to the deceitful temptations of Satan, exploit for gain, and reap Hell on Earth.

[JosiahIV]

you should look into the locus, and the things spoken about them thruout the bible
100% about 1st-3rd crusades
in other words
you found good stuff in that book, however I wish you had commented on my image.

[Michi713]

15 hours ago, JosiahIV said:

you should look into the locus, and the things spoken about them thruout the bible
100% about 1st-3rd crusades
in other words
you found good stuff in that book, however I wish you had commented on my image.

 
Hi JosiahIV.  Thank you for the insight on the locusts!   I am glad you are studying as well.  

 

I confess I do not understand your image.  If you have time would you explain it?  
 

Also, the last point in the notes below the image, #6.  Could you elaborate?

Edited March 25, 2021 by Michi713

[JosiahIV]

Father is the supreme creator, Love itsself (He could be put at the bottom as well because he is the foundation of all things, I desided up top to show his supremacy in the list)
he communicates with all the lower levels only thruough his son (who I believe to be named Joshua of Nazarath so i spelt his name in old english)
Ioshua only communicates his will with the church through the Holy Spirit (a.k.a. The Breath of life, or as  love to call him, 'The Wind that wispers to me in the quiet')
the church is at the bottom of the Quadidity tower because she is less important than all of the other parts of the tower, and yet she is the reason for it as well.
 

 

there will be no rapture, I am a firm believer that if it where to happen it should have been done within the past 4 years. I believe also that jesus return is gong to be 2026-2032 based upon the dome of the rock building period and the vagueness of whether the prophecy was calling the 'setting up' to be the start, or finishing of the building of the decrepet thing...
ok i think i covered most of it. 
'===' is the same as ' equal to'

[elongated1]

John 8:21 "Then Jesus said again unto them, “I go My way, and ye shall seek Me, and shall die in your sins. Whither I go, ye cannot come.”

 

HOLD ON a minute.....!

I thought Jesus died to clear your sins..... I guess not. lol

 

What does church say about people who died before Jesus was born? I'm sure they must have sinned?

 

Anyway, the way I interpret the above is this....if you seek God/Jesus....by travelling to places like muslims go visit the black cube, you shall die in your sins because you haven't learned the lesson! God is within you so no point in seeking God or Jesus out there and you'd still be believing in such thing as sin.....

 

[Truthspoon]

47 minutes ago, elongated1 said:

John 8:21 "Then Jesus said again unto them, “I go My way, and ye shall seek Me, and shall die in your sins. Whither I go, ye cannot come.”

 

HOLD ON a minute.....!

I thought Jesus died to clear your sins..... I guess not. lol

 

 

 

He was speaking to the Pharisees, they rejected Jesus so how can he save them?

 

Jesus said you only need to believe in him for your sins to be whitewashed.

 

Without this belief, he can have no power to save you.... so you damn yourself by your lack of belief.

 

Even Jesus' miracles of healing were powered by the belief the person had in Jesus' ability to do them.

 

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 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years, but no one could heal her. ⁴⁴  She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped. ⁴⁵  'Who touched me?' Jesus asked. When they all denied it, Peter said, 'Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.' ⁴⁶  But Jesus said, 'Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me.' ⁴⁷  Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. ⁴⁸  Then he said to her, 'Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.' (Luke 8:40-48, NIV)

 

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Given To Fly]

i don't know if i'm reading too much into stuff but ... the tampa bay buccaneers won the superbowl and who the heck has the surname of locust ?? lori does

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 9&version=NKJV

[pi3141]

On 6/19/2021 at 6:15 PM, elongated1 said:

if you seek God/Jesus....by travelling to places like muslims go visit the black cube, you shall die in your sins because you haven't learned the lesson! God is within you so no point in seeking God or Jesus out there and you'd still be believing in such thing as sin.....

 

 

I think you put it very well, the Bible says 'if you must pray, pray in secret.' Well the Muslims do the very opposite of praying in secret and instead make it a huge social event where they all pray together or visit Mecca and all wander round the building praying out loud - its about as far away as you can get from praying in secret.

 

As you correctly stated, the kingdom of heaven is within you, we each have a part of God within us. There's no need to go to churches to worship and pray or give overt gestures of public praying. It simply isn't neccessary, God knows whats in your heart, you don't have to proclaim it publicly 5 times a day.

Edited June 23, 2021 by pi3141

[elongated1]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

I think you put it very well, the Bible says 'if you must pray, pray in secret.' Well the Muslims do the very opposite of praying in secret and instead make it a huge social event where they all pray together or visit Mecca and all wander round the building praying out loud - its about as far away as you can get from praying in secret.

 

As you correctly stated, the kingdom of heaven is within you, we each have a part of God within us. There's no need to go to churches to worship and pray or give overt gestures of public praying. It simply isn't neccessary, God knows whats in your heart, you don't have to proclaim it publicly 5 times a day.

 

It gets deeper pi. And to get further understanding, you need to study....yeah you guessed it occult/esoteric meaning of everything.

 

Firstly, "praying in public isn't necessary". It isn't about necessity imo.

In occult, it is almost a must that your statement of intention i.e. prayer isn't shared with anyone because as soon as you tell another soul, they will input their opinion on that matter such as "oh that will never happen". In another words, they will add their negativity to cancel out your intention.

 

The next level is this..... we agree that God is within us.

This is a chicken and egg question and I don't have an answer for it yet but worth pondering on this point.

Did God(s) come first or did we create the God(s)? In another words, did we create something called eggregors?

Some of us identify as children of God, we are a piece, one aspect of vast, infinite God/consciousness/energy/power and all that. So if we are all one being, the parts of the God, then it is a matter of activating God's power that are inherent within us vs religious people who asks/requests an authority to make something happen. Very different approach and from my experience, the latter does not work.

[pi3141]

4 hours ago, elongated1 said:

It gets deeper pi. And to get further understanding, you need to study....yeah you guessed it occult/esoteric meaning of everything.

 

Yes I'm reading quite a lot on the esoteric knowledge encoded in our Bible and also the Astrotheological origins of all religions. 

 

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In occult, it is almost a must that your statement of intention i.e. prayer isn't shared with anyone because as soon as you tell another soul, they will input their opinion on that matter such as "oh that will never happen". In another words, they will add their negativity to cancel out your intention.

 

That is a very good point.

 

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The next level is this..... we agree that God is within us.

This is a chicken and egg question and I don't have an answer for it yet but worth pondering on this point.

Did God(s) come first or did we create the God(s)? In another words, did we create something called eggregors?

Some of us identify as children of God, we are a piece, one aspect of vast, infinite God/consciousness/energy/power and all that. So if we are all one being, the parts of the God, then it is a matter of activating God's power that are inherent within us vs religious people who asks/requests an authority to make something happen. Very different approach and from my experience, the latter does not work.

 

For me, there’s no creation without a creator, so for me, God came first. But I take your point. And yes I think Satan / Lucifer are egregores we have created or elementals from Mother Earth that we feed more negative energy into.

 

Regarding the church I absolutely agree, people want a spiritual experience and don't realise its already inside them, so they look to the church for help. The church takes advantage of this lack of knowledge and for a fee will help them spiritually. No it doesn't work its a con and maybe worse may also be directing worship away from God and towards other entities robbing the people of their connection to God and robbing God of our affections. Churches are scams I would almost go so far to say ALL organized religions are scams but I know even in the most corrupt religions there is some truth and in most churches are good people so all is not lost.

[Weedo]

On 9/7/2020 at 10:47 AM, alexa said:

I know many on here do not believe in the written word of God in the Bible but it is my duty as a Christian to warn you all to repent & believe on the name of Jesus because we are living in the Last Days, can't you see that the book of revelation now reveals how Satan is coming into play ?

 

We are all living in what is called the 'Tribulation' which is going to last for seven years. We are at the beginning of this seven year tribulation. There is no pre-rapture as many may falsely claim, there is only the one final Day, Judgment Day, where we shall all have to give account for our deeds done on earth. We shall all be raised, whether dead or alive, to meet with Jesus in the air, some to eternal damnation and others to heavenly bliss to live with Jesus for a thousand years.

 

As we go through this seven year tribulation it would be wise for one to believe in the word of God, for there will many who are going to die, 1/3 of the worlds  population to be exact.

Many Christians are going to be Decapitated & Martyred for the their belief in Jesus & many who have taken the vaccine (the mark of the beast) will break out in sores ,these people will crave for death but shall not find it.

Life as we know it on earth is only going to get worse & it's not going to be a pretty sight.

 

This message was given to me through the grace of God to warn all.

 

May God Bless you all & save you from these troubled times

Save your Soul

Amen

 

Hi Alexa how are you? Thank you so much for your prayers and kind wishes. I pray from the same for you. The satanics of today seem to know the book of revelations better than anyone, as they really follow it in detail, but playing the role of the bad guy. 

 

For me also a great revelations and book that really applies to today more than others, is the book of Daniel. That crazy rulers dream, who told all the wise people in his court that he'd kill them all if no one can tell him what he dreamt, as well as give him the interpretation. Among his court were three children of Israel that he brought to Babylon, one of which was prophet Daniel. So Daniel did what any believer in God would do when faced with danger - he prayed for help. And as the law of the universe dictates : pray and you shall receive. So he found out in a vision during his sleep what the dream was. He basically dreamt his dream. Anyway, I'm sure you know the story, and he dreamt of a huge statue that had a golden head, silver chest, etc., and the finally his feet were made out of clay mixed with iron. Those layers represent the ages of kingships on earth. This foot - as we all know - gets broken into smithereens, by a rock, and then a mountain remains that is eternal peace and love and halleluja all the way.

 

The part  I want to get to is that what is happening now more and more, is that the satanic rulers of today are trying hard to mix metals with our organic bodies, which is representative of clay. This process has been happening for a while now, but now it is accelerated with the "4th industrial revoltion", which is all about mixing clay with metal. "fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity" 

 

So I believe that we are now entering this phase in full swing. Next step is the destruction of a dynasty spanning from ancient Babylon till today through a sudden divine intervention. 

 

[alexa]

18 minutes ago, Weedo said:

The part  I want to get to is that what is happening now more and more, is that the satanic rulers of today are trying hard to mix metals with our organic bodies, which is representative of clay. This process has been happening for a while now, but now it is accelerated with the "4th industrial revoltion", which is all about mixing clay with metal. "fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity" 

 

This is an excellent insight Weedo, thanks for this  I've never looked at it this way, I've always thought the mixing of clay was the Nations. But knowing the story of Daniel you are right.

I'm so excited, God has given me another revelation through you.

Thank you, Thank you Thank you, God Bless you 

 

[elongated1]

@alexa

Have you ever watched Bill Donahue's video? I think you'd probably enjoy it.

An occultist said if a pastor is like him, he'd go to church every Sunday.

So I watched this video and t'was great. Lots of bible reference. He talks about alchemy using electrician scenario.

I'm about to watch this one next. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULdts2OlZcg

Like others have commented, I might have to binge watch his channel.

 

 

 

[alexa]

8 hours ago, elongated1 said:

@alexa

Have you ever watched Bill Donahue's video? I think you'd probably enjoy it.

An occultist said if a pastor is like him, he'd go to church every Sunday.

So I watched this video and t'was great. Lots of bible reference. He talks about alchemy using electrician scenario.

I'm about to watch this one next. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULdts2OlZcg

Like others have commented, I might have to binge watch his channel.

 

 

 

 

I used to watch him a few years ago, but I stopped watching him for some reason, Can't remember why now. If I remember I'll let you know.

[DaleP]

Some people have said that he is not all that correct so I am listening to it with a pinch of salt.

But what do you think of this regarding the Chapter 29?

Now, I know nothing of the Ch 29 or the bible but I am just adding it here.

https://youtu.be/6QiZE_frnPw?t=4118

 

[DaleP]

@alexa would approve of him.

He's been a preacher for 30 years and can talk about Anunaki and aliens.

 

His channel is interesting as well. Check him out.

https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulWallis/videos

 

 

[DaleP]

Very interesting. People have said Jesus was Jew but he refused the old teaching...reading between the line.

 

Good question....whether Jesus thought of Jahweh as god. Never thought of that.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2022 by DaleP