david icke disinformation agent ?

[Tom Wooly]

These are not my opinions but rather the ramblings of my brother.  
Although I don't agree with everything he says, i do believe we should take everything we hear with a pinch of salt.
That includes the words of Mr David Icke, with whome i mostly agree.
 

Icke takes you down a rabbit hole, instead of focusing in on the pressing problems and giving actual solutions,

offers no solutions, or offers useless solutions,

creates fear and panic and hopelessness by offering no actual solutions or vague or useless solutions,

the effect of fear and panic and hoplessness is the resistance giving in, giving up, feeling resistance is futile,

gives you two thirds of the truth and 1 third nonsense,

distracts you from the actual problems, by telling you the actual problems but throwing in several non-problems to also focus on,

directs the resistance movement in the wrong direction,

such as 5g

5g = emits non ionizing radiation like the sun, no more harmful to human health than the sun, unless your right upto 5g tower, hugging the 5g tower, like microwave isnt harmful when your standing outside of it,

why talk about 5g ? divide the resistance movement so half the movement are wasting their time protesting 5g and thus not protesting the real problems= surveillance via rfid and vaccines, like in china where everyone is tracked and surveiled 24/7,

why does icke talk about vaccines if he is controlled opposition?,

to be taken seriously and listened to he has to reveal some truth, or he will be dismissed by the resistance,

but by getting people to trust him by revealing two thirds truth, they subsequently believe the disinformation too, and are thus led in wrong directions, and their resistance efforts are divided,

such as splitting resistance efforts between vaccines and 5g,

dividing the resistances forces in the battle,

half protesting 5g, wasting money suing 5g companies, and resistance getting arrested burning 5g towers, if resistance if in prison they cant fight,.. then the other half protesting the real problems aka surveilance and vaccines,

so icke, alex jones ect divide the resistance movements forces in half,

additionally because waking up more people to join the resistance is so important, icke also makes the resistance look like crackpots, so the entire resistance movement appears to be a bunch of crackpots and people turn away from it and go back to sleep,

turning away people that would otherwise be woken up when you talk to them about reptilians, 5g ect,

if david icke was not a disinformation agent, he would not be still alive, freely walking about fearlessly in public, he would have been assasinated already like jfk, ofc he has to answer to this, but are his reasons logical, do they actually make sense,

if david ickes true purpose is to bring legitimacy to the resitance against the nwo, and not make the resistance appear ridiculous then why does david icke talk about reptilians???????

 if his objective was genuinely to destroy the new world order why talk about reptilians, WHAT ACTUAL purpose does this serve ??? other than making the resitance appear crazy,... since it clearly does nothing other than this, he is clearly a disinfo agent, to make the resitance appear crazy, to turn people away from it,

even if there were reptilians, what actual point would there be in talking about this,

one thing the disinfo agents seem to do is make the enemy aka nwo appear invincible, to cause people to give up, ... if you think the enemy are aliens, and believe that, then anyone who would believe that would think their is no point in resisting, since aliens would be invincible, ...

there is no legitimate reason for him to talk about aliens, reptlians ect other than for the reasons above,

 its necessary that more people are woken up to what is going on, and thus as a disinfo agent his mission is to get people to dismiss the real conspiracies that are happening, and also to undermine peoples belief that the nwo are ACTUALLY weak, and they are easily destroyed, and are actually right now in the weakest position ever because they are right now completely exposed, and everyone is waking up to them right now,

talking about reptilians and getting his followers to talk about reptilains is to make the resistance movement appear as crackpots to people who would otherwise listen and be woken up,

it does absolutely no good at all to talk about reptilians if you want to destroy the new world order, NO POINT IN IT, other than to make these ideas appear the ideas of a crackpot, and thus turn people away from these ideas,

causing the resistance to burn down 5g towers and thus get them thrown into prison for burning down 5g towers, thus inciting the resistance into criminal action so they are in prison and not a part of the resistance anymore,

aliens? reptilians, blood drinking royal family, aliens on moon ect, to bring disrepute to the resistance movement to turn people away from the movement, so people think this is ridiculous and stop further research and thus finding the actual truth, make the resistance appear ridiciulous,

the nwo try to control the opposition to itself, with agents such as icke,

why is icke still alive if he is a threat? because he isnt a threat, he is a disinfo agent,

   MAKE RESISTANCE APPEAR RIDICULOUS

   DIVIDE RESISTANCES FORCES IN HALF

   CAUSE FEAR, DEPRESSION, HOPLESSNESS

   MAKE YOU THINK THE NWO IS INVINCIBLE WHEN ITS WEAK

 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

For starters;


5G at 60hz is being questioned because of its effect on O2 molecules.

David Icke clearly repeats DO NOT ACQUIESCE 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

 

58 minutes ago, Tom Wooly said:

if david ickes true purpose is to bring legitimacy to the resitance against the nwo, and not make the resistance appear ridiculous then why does david icke talk about reptilians???????

 

To the best of my knowledge, David Icke hasn't talked about 'reptilians' for years.

 

It's only those looking to discredit Icke that keep bringing up the 'reptilians meme'.

 

Are you looking to discredit David Icke?

[Tom Wooly]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

 

To the best of my knowledge, David Icke hasn't talked about 'reptilians' for years.

 

It's only those looking to discredit Icke that keep bringing up the 'reptilians meme'.

 

Are you looking to discredit David Icke?

It was actually my brother that wrote this, i just posted it to see what people opinions are on it, personally i don't trust any public source 100%, Icke included

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

1 minute ago, Tom Wooly said:

It was actually my brother that wrote this, i just posted it to see what people opinions are on it,

Can you explain this please ?
Thanks

 

[Tom Wooly]

3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

Can you explain this please ?
Thanks

 

he wrote it in a notepad file as something for me to read, because i keep going on about David Ickes opinions on matters, i just copy pasted it here

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

4 minutes ago, Tom Wooly said:

he wrote it in a notepad file as something for me to read, because i keep going on about David Ickes opinions on matters, i just copy pasted it here

The original opening post in this thread are not your words ?
They are all your Brothers words ?
lt appears to be YOUR words.
You didn't think it would be a good idea to state that in the OP ?
.
What are YOUR thoughts about your Brothers words ?

 

[Tom Wooly]

5 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

The original opening post in this thread are not your words ?
They are all your Brothers words ?
lt appears to be YOUR words.
You didn't think it would be a good idea to state that in the OP ?
.
What are YOUR thoughts about your Brothers words ?

 

yes they are my brothers words which i should probably have mentioned from the start.

As for my opinion i beleive 5g will have bad consequences for our health, and reptillians, it's possible but i'd need more evidence

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

4 minutes ago, Tom Wooly said:

yes they are my brothers words which i should probably have mentioned from the start.

As for my opinion i beleive 5g will have bad consequences for our health, and reptillians, it's possible but i'd need more evidence

So the title is a question, rather than a statement ?
 

l can insert a sentence into the OP explaining that these are not your words.
Would you like to give me the sentence you want to put at the beginning of your original post ?
BC
 

[rideforever]

At the moment everybody is complaining of conspiracies.  Whether it is XR, trans people, BLM, DI, Truthers, whoeveer.

In my opinion this is just the result of degeneration of everybody.

Everyone is screaming blue murder, and the claims are getting a bit ridiculous.

You are supposed to believe that everyone is evil and everything we know is evil.

It is indulgent and ridiculous.

It offers no solutions.

Apart from this popular solution : if you get rid of bad people someone money rains from the sky.

Well this is indulgent and insincere.

I am afraid that society does not grow on trees.

The ancestors even just a couple of generations ago worked to make things work.

They were positive practical grounded and made efforts.

They did not blame ... they fixed things, they maintained things.

It would be good if the people of today did the same.

Yes ... this world is full of corruption and so are you.

Indulging in negative fantasies spraying them everywhere with no solution ... this is not the act of an adult.

Start doing good things - and no, screaming more on the internet is not a good thing.

Good things means making actual effort and straightening yourself out and become a responsible adult.

 

[serpentine]

44 minutes ago, Tom Wooly said:

It was actually my brother that wrote this, i just posted it to see what people opinions are on it, personally i don't trust any public source 100%, Icke included

 

Your brother might be interested to know that the Sun (capital S) is far more dangerous than 5g.

 

 As far we know 5g has only been tested for safety on a bag of water prior to the live array testing currently under progress in various locations around the UK.

Edited September 5, 2020 by serpentine

[Tom Wooly]

8 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

So the title is a question, rather than a statement ?
 

l can insert a sentence into the OP explaining that these are not your words.
Would you like to give me the sentence you want to put at the beginning of your original post ?
BC
 

These are not my opinions but rather the ramblings of my brother.  
Although I don't agree with everything he says, i do believe we should take everything we hear with a pinch of salt.
That includes the words of Mr David Icke, with whome i mostly agree.

[2020member]

In a nutshell. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. And believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see. 

[Seeker]

Lol 5G no more harmful than the sun? We are protected by most of the suns radiation thanks to our atmosphere. There’s no atmosphere to protect us from artificially created emf radiation from phones, masts etc is there? Your brother needs to read up more with an open mind on emf radiation. As for David Icke, just because you or your brother doesn’t agree with him, it doesn’t automatically mean he’s a disinformation agent. He just has a different perception to you, maybe you know something David Icke doesn’t or David Icke knows something you don’t, thus giving you both different perceptions, all I will say is that David Icke has done far more research than most people ever will 

[greatdayforfreedom]

Funny that after the protest in London that  you've got threads like this one.  Paid shills trying to discredit David?

[labrats]

He does offer a solution, a simple one, as pointed by BC: DO NOT ACQUIESCE 

 

Reptilians blah blah, dont exist IMO - demonic forces do, and operate on a different frequency, exactly as described, this man talks sense and what he describes are - aka as Jinn, spirits, however they manifest themselves is another matter, its in all the scriptures across different beliefs.

 

At the end of day, its facts that matter, and the fact is that the so called "conspiracy theorists" have been right so far, especially Di, now they want to pathologise these people, those straying from mainstream thinking.

[Rolandson]

People say Icke is part of the plan to divide and rule.

Icke was banned on youtube and all of the sudden Ickonic came. 

I think ickonic would have come anyway this year with or without the ban on youtube.

Who has Ickonic by the way and is it worth it?

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

23 minutes ago, Rolandson said:

Icke was banned on youtube and all of the sudden Ickonic came. 

lckonic was in place before yewtube got stupid with censorship..

 

[Ethel]

David Icke is only one proponent of the 'Reptilian' conspiracy theory. The theory that our world is under the control of hidden ET forces is actually far more widespread than just David Icke. 'The Gods Of Eden' by William Bramley is one such source, plus there is also the fact that virtually all of the ancient civilizations alluded to it. 

 

He has mentioned it in recent years and indirectly alludes to it regularly. The terms 'Reptilian', 'Archon' and 'Demiurge' are used interchangeably. These beings are believed in not only by many truthers, but many New Agers as well. When truthers or New agers attempt to distance themselves from these theories in a reflexive way they are operating out of ego, and the dreaded scenario that most people's egos fear of being seen as 'stupid' or 'crazy'. Not all human beings are invested in that kind of nonsense. Some of us don't actually give that much of a shit whether people think we are 'crazy'. I think most people are in a massive state of denial about the true nature of the world around them. The Reptilians might exist, they might not. I choose to keep an open mind. 

 

The only reason I can think of that David might not directly mention the 'Reptilians' regularly any more is that it acts as a barrier to accessibility for the masses, and he wants his message to reach as many people as possible, the primary message being that the actual humans who have the most power and influence in our world do not have any of our best interests at heart.

[labrats]

7 hours ago, Rolandson said:

People say Icke is part of the plan to divide and rule.

Icke was banned on youtube and all of the sudden Ickonic came. 

I think ickonic would have come anyway this year with or without the ban on youtube.

Who has Ickonic by the way and is it worth it?

I tried a trial, lots of videos and podcasts on there, tons of content - I would rather pay for my choice of viewing than be forced to pay for something I dont watch or want to watch

[HistoryIsComplex]

20 years ago I would have said "Reptillians? Ha ha ha! Ridiculous!"

 

Having seen what HAPPENED ALL AROUND THE WORLD since 9/11 in New York, I don't find the theory "totally ridiculous" anymore.

 

The people IN CHARGE do NOT behave like NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS at all anymore.

 

So the question arises quite naturally - are they HUMAN like us, or are they ANOTHER SPECIES, or a HYBRID SPECIES?

 

 

[Yasmina]

I trust David, just because he is still alive does not mean he is a disinfo agent lol. There are loads of people who speak out and are still alive. They can't kill everyone. Also, JFK assassination was faked. The Kennedys are part of the bloodline. David offers the most important solution which is non compliance, and to choose to operate from love not fear. In essence, these are the only two actions which could really put a spanner in the works for the ptb as they completely rely on mass compliance and making everyone act out from a low vibration of fear. If everyone did the opposite they would not be able to get anywhere with their plans. 

[Brad the lad]

Who cares what his real intentions are? I have never had reason to doubt him to date. That's very good going when you think how long he's been in the game. I go to him for good solid information and research and he don't let you down there.

I NEVER take ANYTHING he or anyone else tells me as Gospel....Why would you?

 

When searching for the truth in anything I suggest you read ALL the books (fiction tends to have way more truth most of the time), watch all the films (again fiction is where the truth lies most of the time) and then watch all the documentaries..........Then apply your logic!

Only then can you find something close to the truth and it will be yours (unique to you).

 

Why waste time or energy on anything else?

[rooey]

it's about disrupting our natural rhythms and 5g, 4g, possibly electrical wires do that to some extent 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2020 by rooey

[Hegel Schmegel]

Anyone who is actually familiar with Icke's material knows that for years he has been speaking about the need for people to overcome fear and how fear is used by the self-loathing ptb to keep the cowering masses spiritually disempowered. Far from wanting to make ones feel even more demeaned and anxious than they perhaps already feel, Mr. Icke has been all about the opposite: making ones see the divine light they inherently possess. Endless talk and ink in regards to raising of consciousness, lightening up, chilling out, oneness over division, and freeing ourselves from a prison planet does not sound like the talk of someone insidiously promoting some ulterior motive based on dehumanization and disillusionment. In fact, quite the contrary!

 

As for 5G, there are numerous researchers and authors other than Icke within the alternative media who have been warning about this for a few years now. In some places, has not 5G already been banned by governments? Even some doctors are warning about it. I've just finished reading Joseph Mercola's EMF*D (2020) in which he equates the minimizing of wireless radiation and 5G to the tobacco industry which back in the mid-20th century via a disinformation campaign had sought to cover up the health risks of nicotine use, even going so far as to get supposed physicians to speak highly of cigarettes and to promote them in advertisements!