Is now the best time to sell property?

[RobinJ]

We all make decisions based on our own circumstances. Every fibre of my being told me I was right to make the one I did. SO far Its proving correct. I always follow my gut instinct which I know comes directly from source and is never wrong. I cant explain that to other folks who dont experience such insights. It is just what happens for me. 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobinJ said:

We all make decisions based on our own circumstances. Every fibre of my being told me I was right to make the one I did. SO far Its proving correct. I always follow my gut instinct which I know comes directly from source and is never wrong. I cant explain that to other folks who dont experience such insights. It is just what happens for me. 

 

yes its called the flight or fight response and people do one or the other

[RobinJ]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

yes its called the flight or fight response and people do one or the other

 

ah yes, that old chestnut, the one always flung out by those who dont understand how the cosmos really works or are not tuned in. No, its called being spiritually awake. I get told what to do, and I do it. I trust the source and things work out, its that simple. However, that is personal to me, my property knowledge is based on years of experience, thats quite different

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobinJ said:

ah yes, that old chestnut, the one always flung out by those who dont understand how the cosmos really works or are not tuned in. No, its called being spiritually awake. I get told what to do, and I do it. I trust the source and things work out, its that simple. However, that is personal to me, my property knowledge is based on years of experience, thats quite different

 

if you want to move to mexico then that's your choice

 

but if you are trying to tell people that we defeat the cabal by selling our property and fleeing the country i'm going to disagree with that

 

how many people do you think we can spare in this struggle?

 

100?

a million?

how many people should go to mexico?

Edited November 30, 2020 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

sure you can pack up and go to mexico and then sit back and give it all the ''i told you so'' chat when the economy crashes in the UK but there is an element of SELF FULFILLING PROPHESY when all the people who think the battle is lost don't engage

 

of course its lost if people don't engage

Edited November 30, 2020 by Macnamara

[RobinJ]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

sure you can pack up and go to mexico and then sit back and give it all the ''i told you so'' chat when the economy crashes in the UK but there is an element of SELF FULFILLING PROPHESY when all the people who think the battle is lost don't engage

 

Your belief is your belief. Mine is mine, I cant be bothered to waste my time on this anymore. Like I said, folks have a mind, they can make their own up.Those who can afford to sell will probably sell. Those who cant, wont. Neither is my fault, I am only giving the benefit of my experience as I see it, I am not forcing anyone to think or act like me. Im only responsible for me.

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Your belief is your belief. Mine is mine, I cant be bothered to waste my time on this anymore. Like I said, folks have a mind, they can make their own up.Those who can afford to sell will probably sell. Those who cant, wont. Neither is my fault, I am only giving the benefit of my experience as I see it, I am not forcing anyone to think or act like me. Im only responsible for me.

 

yes you are acting in your own short term self interest and i'm saying that is a false economy in the long run and that too much of that kind of thinking is going to sink us all in the same way that too many police willing to beat the british public, to get that months pay cheque, will allow a fascist state to emerge and in the same way that too many health professionals willing to inject british people with toxic covid vaccinations, in order to keep their jobs, will destroy the health of the nation and in the same way that journalists who don't report the truth allow deceit to reign

 

But some people somewhere down the line have to take responsibility

Edited November 30, 2020 by Macnamara

[DarianF]

18 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

 Ive been in property over 20 years in UK. Now is NOT the time to hold stock, especially rental stock. Less and less people will have jobs, leading to less and less reliable tenants. Additionally the rules are being changed constantly now, and its way harder to evict anyone now, courts are backed up for months, meanwhile if a tenant decides not to pay you are stuck with them, like it or not, for a minimum of a year, while you pay the mortgage or lose the property....

Personal houses, thats more of a gut instinct IMO, BUT, there will be a crash soon, so if you  have equity, now is the time to get it out, or lose it for good.

 

Same in Australia. Bad time to be a landlord. Even the insurance companies have removed the clause in the landlord insurance that covers you for non-payment of rent. It's a disaster.

[RobinJ]

6 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Same in Australia. Bad time to be a landlord. Even the insurance companies have removed the clause in the landlord insurance that covers you for non-payment of rent. It's a disaster.

 

Yep, its everything that will be affected. They want proprty to collapse as we wont be allowed to own anything. There has been a land and property grab by Govt going on for years in UK, most people just cant or refuse to see it

[QuodHumana]

Here in South Africa, the property market boomed during co-vid. It's the strangest thing.

[rideforever]

I was looking at which countries are most vaccinated.  US/CA/W.Europe.

Missing was Eastern Europe and Islamic World ... so I would say they are the safest as they have a different God. Mexico too, but how long will it last.

From year 2000,   rates per 1000.

I am sure it's increased by now.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by rideforever

[DarianF]

18 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Yep, its everything that will be affected. They want proprty to collapse as we wont be allowed to own anything. There has been a land and property grab by Govt going on for years in UK, most people just cant or refuse to see it

 

One thing that doesn't add up in my mind however, is that most of the political and legal class and ruling class in general, are landlords with multiple properties in their portfolios. Why would they openly sabotage their own property portfolios (rental return, capital growth etc) by risking the property system which makes them wealthy? Doesn't add up to me.

Edited December 1, 2020 by DarianF

[Shy Talk]

21 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

One thing that doesn't add up in my mind however, is that most of the political and legal class and ruling class in general, are landlords with multiple properties in their portfolios. Why would they openly sabotage their own property portfolios (rental return, capital growth etc) by risking the property system which makes them wealthy? Doesn't add up to me.

 

This bothered me too. I expect you'll find a lot of them sold up in the last few months or will do after a potential mini-boom due to the 'discovery' of multiple vaccines (what a joke) combined with a likely ultra-soft (or delayed forever) Brexit. I'm equally concerned by what the plan is for savings. I expect they may be exchanged (possibly overnight, so people can't prepare) for a digital currency that is worth nowhere near as much. It's definitely heading that way.

[DarianF]

3 hours ago, Shy Talk said:

 

This bothered me too. I expect you'll find a lot of them sold up in the last few months or will do after a potential mini-boom due to the 'discovery' of multiple vaccines (what a joke) combined with a likely ultra-soft (or delayed forever) Brexit. I'm equally concerned by what the plan is for savings. I expect they may be exchanged (possibly overnight, so people can't prepare) for a digital currency that is worth nowhere near as much. It's definitely heading that way.

 

Savings will definitely be inflated away. The way the banks are printing money is insane. This is explained well in the video below (older show, but very relevant to now):

 

 

[RobinJ]

Hmm well you know Rotheschild has been selling up his estates right for at least the last 5 years.....so...

[bamboozooka]

i regularly look at houses on rightmove.

from what i see there should be a property crash.

there are towns with only 12 houses for sale. bigger towns with only 60 houses for sale.

the market has dried up due to uncertainty.

[Seeker]

1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

i regularly look at houses on rightmove.

from what i see there should be a property crash.

there are towns with only 12 houses for sale. bigger towns with only 60 houses for sale.

the market has dried up due to uncertainty.

When you say a crash, how big of a % decrease? I’m only a few weeks from completed sale of my place luckily. Also what’s gonna cause the crash, we assume lockdown will happen again, and I’m sure stamp duty is back in September 

[bamboozooka]

7 hours ago, Seeker said:

When you say a crash, how big of a % decrease? I’m only a few weeks from completed sale of my place luckily. Also what’s gonna cause the crash, we assume lockdown will happen again, and I’m sure stamp duty is back in September 

the housing market is as artificial as the stock markets.

the bankers manipulate both to stop it crashing or hide the crash.

furloughing estate agents would have done nothing for their profits, why havent many gone out of business?

 

[RobinJ]

The housing market has bee artificially propped up for years. It was due to crash before they kicked off the covid debacle. Then they manipulated it by changing stamp duty and at the same time easing mortgages for buyers to keep the money rolling in while they get ready to grab everyones property from them via the 'debt forgiveness' that's coming. 

Ive been selling property for the last year in the UK market and estate agents have been working and doing viewings the whole time. The main problem has been the solicitors as their part of the system is antiquated anyway and tied to the govt system. When stamp duty comes back most of the market will grind to a halt, with most likely lower value properties still in the mix. In the last year my property value went up by nearly 10% due to the stamp duty meddling. 

[Beaujangles]

On 11/30/2020 at 10:44 PM, RobinJ said:

 

Yep, its everything that will be affected. They want proprty to collapse as we wont be allowed to own anything. There has been a land and property grab by Govt going on for years in UK, most people just cant or refuse to see it

 

 

Looks like you are doing pretty well in Mexico.... good job you didnt listen to the negativity received on here. Good on you.... may catch up with you there at some point.  

 

On a side note... looks like the governor guy in Q Roo doesnt want vax pass. But some other guy keeps flip flopping.  So my son says... I guess it will change daily. 

[RobinJ]

15 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

Looks like you are doing pretty well in Mexico.... good job you didnt listen to the negativity received on here. Good on you.... may catch up with you there at some point.  

 

On a side note... looks like the governor guy in Q Roo doesnt want vax pass. But some other guy keeps flip flopping.  So my son says... I guess it will change daily. 

What is said in the media versus what happens on the ground ( anywhere not just Mex) are very different things. Having said that QRoo  would be my last choice at where to live in Mexico.

[Beaujangles]

On 8/13/2021 at 2:16 PM, RobinJ said:

What is said in the media versus what happens on the ground ( anywhere not just Mex) are very different things. Having said that QRoo  would be my last choice at where to live in Mexico.

 

 

Yea, for a few reasons right now...lol. Getting too humid, and tourist areas are more controlled.... 

[Mr H]

On 12/1/2020 at 10:01 PM, DarianF said:

 

One thing that doesn't add up in my mind however, is that most of the political and legal class and ruling class in general, are landlords with multiple properties in their portfolios. Why would they openly sabotage their own property portfolios (rental return, capital growth etc) by risking the property system which makes them wealthy? Doesn't add up to me.

Just catching up on this interesting thread.

 

I think the difference here is that the "elite" own luxurious properties - which will always be in demand, even if things hit the fan, there will still be the elites, and those with money looking at the high end properties - like in Venezuela. Its people looking to rent to regular folks who will get screwed. imo.

 

Also, the "you will own nothing and be happy" WEF mantra only applies to plebs - I doubt the elites will follow this plan!

[Mr H]

On 8/12/2021 at 12:58 AM, Seeker said:

When you say a crash, how big of a % decrease? I’m only a few weeks from completed sale of my place luckily. Also what’s gonna cause the crash, we assume lockdown will happen again, and I’m sure stamp duty is back in September 

 

If you look at what happened in 2008, house prices crashed by 20% across the board and did not recover for 6 years. We are in a much worse financial situation than then, so I would increase that % projection for this coming crash.

 

What will be the catalyst?

 

When they have let inflation rise as high as they can, they will eventually raise interest rates - what I call the big event. Once this happens then all markets will tank and the asset grab will be in full force.

 

imo

[Mr H]

On 11/30/2020 at 2:37 AM, Macnamara said:

sure you can pack up and go to mexico and then sit back and give it all the ''i told you so'' chat when the economy crashes in the UK but there is an element of SELF FULFILLING PROPHESY when all the people who think the battle is lost don't engage

 

of course its lost if people don't engage

 

I think it does depend on your situation. But if you look at history, the Jews who saw what's coming got out for free, then they had to sell their assets for 50% discount to escape to those willing to help, then 80% then there was only death! Staying did not help!

 

My personal opinion is that the tyranny we have today is very much the same, it just wears prettier clothes - but the threat is just the same today imo as it was then.