When will people wake up?

[Seeker]

It’s alarming how many are so brainwashed and for us to beat this we need a lot of people to wake up and wake up fast, do you think people can do it? I look around and there’s 0 critical thinking, just following whatever is said on tv or by the government they ‘dont trust’ during election time. If people can’t figure it out now when it’s super obvious and in a time where information is at their fingertips, then there’s no hope for them, and it means we suffer too

[shadowmoon]

After  months and years of this bs if they aren't aware now, I doubt they ever will be.

[HistoryIsComplex]

Seeker, at times of Crisis, many people blindly latch onto authority.

 

Which is why Authority tends to MANUFACTURE one CRISIS after another.

 

People go "I don't trust government, I don't trust government".

 

Then BOOM - CRISIS - and it becomes "the government will save me, the government will save me".

 

[Jack]

7 minutes ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Seeker, at times of Crisis, many people blindly latch onto authority.

 

Which is why Authority tends to MANUFACTURE one CRISIS after another.

 

People go "I don't trust government, I don't trust government".

 

Then BOOM - CRISIS - and it becomes "the government will save me, the government will save me".

 

Never seen such a caring socialist Marxist Facist Conservative government before

[andy1033]

I would not bother waiting or wanting the masses to wake up.

 

You should appreciate that people are at there level.

 

Like the saying goes

 

"Water finds its own level"

 

So, at any moment of human history there is and always has been only a minority that wake upto what ever. So i would not expect or want the masses to wake up. If people are meant to hear and understand that fine. You cannot force people to follow your train of thought.

 

[FinallyAwake]

Definitely more people are, people are waking up that I wouldn’t have imagined. As my confidence has increased to talk to people, I now have a close group of people that I can talk to about this stuff which is so much better than doing all this alone.  For some people, I think it’s a protection mechanism, I think it’s easier for them to think that their government wouldn’t do something that evil. For example, my sister is one of the most intelligent people I know, we’ve had several discussions about the coronavirus and it’s never lead to a full on argument but she always talks about how the NHS and public health England are the best places to get advice and info and that wearing masks works to stop the spread. Then the other day she talked about things being called conspiracies by government because they’re trying to hide something. So I think finally it’s starting to sink in a little bit.  I think a lot of people in West Yorkshire started to question things when the government locked us down two hours before Eid, Then there were reports in local papers about people from ethnic minority is not respecting the rules and I really think that made people smell a rat. 

[Seeker]

6 minutes ago, FinallyAwake said:

To think that their government wouldn’t do something that evil. 

If anyone says this to me I remind them that our governments agreed to agenda 21 in 1992, which has the depopulation plan attached, most people have never even heard of agenda 21, let alone its sinister agendas our government agreed to work towards. It does require someone to have an open mind, and not many do after watching TV 

[Seeker]

32 minutes ago, andy1033 said:

I would not bother waiting or wanting the masses to wake up.

 

You should appreciate that people are at there level.

 

Like the saying goes

 

"Water finds its own level"

 

So, at any moment of human history there is and always has been only a minority that wake upto what ever. So i would not expect or want the masses to wake up. If people are meant to hear and understand that fine. You cannot force people to follow your train of thought.

 

I know what you’re saying but if enough don’t wake up then we are ALL screwed, just because we know what’s coming, it doesn’t mean we won’t be affected. Once enough people figure it out then the paradigm in society changes

[andy1033]

3 minutes ago, Seeker said:

I know what you’re saying but if enough don’t wake up then we are ALL screwed, just because we know what’s coming, it doesn’t mean we won’t be affected. Once enough people figure it out then the paradigm in society changes

 

I do not think that will happen, ie paradigm shift.

 

People generally accept what ever is happening at any one moment, as long as they can live there lifes.

 

Look at how a person could be killed in the street and no one will help.

 

All you can do as yourself, is play your part, and what ever happens happens. People have free will, and you cannot force people to change, or do what ever you want. Like the analogy i said about people will just accept seeing others die, as long as they are ok, even if its directly infront of them on the street.

 

Like i said, no one has a right to force people to accept what you or anyone else says. Thats just the way it is, and if something is coming, we will find out how the majority do react. But i cannot imagine them caring or changing without that something.

[FinallyAwake]

23 minutes ago, Seeker said:

If anyone says this to me I remind them that our governments agreed to agenda 21 in 1992, which has the depopulation plan attached, most people have never even heard of agenda 21, let alone its sinister agendas our government agreed to work towards. It does require someone to have an open mind, and not many do after watching TV 

Indeed! Agenda 21 is one of the things that woke me up.  What gets me is the crafty language they use, “end poverty,” no, they want to make us equally poor.  It’s getting other people to believe it that’s the difficult part. Rosa Koire does a pretty good job of explaining it though

[Ethel]

3 hours ago, Seeker said:

It’s alarming how many are so brainwashed and for us to beat this we need a lot of people to wake up and wake up fast, do you think people can do it? I look around and there’s 0 critical thinking, just following whatever is said on tv or by the government they ‘dont trust’ during election time. If people can’t figure it out now when it’s super obvious and in a time where information is at their fingertips, then there’s no hope for them, and it means we suffer too

On a certain level, denial is a choice. Denial is a defence mechanism which is designed to protect a person from unwanted feelings regarding an uncomfortable truth. The average person couldn't really handle the truth about the world, if they knew it. They'd sink into a deep depression, if not become suicidal, so unfortunately the rest of us, who are able to live with the truth, are forced to pander to majority, because they are basically still children in their outlook.

 

Quite where this leaves us in terms of where the world is headed, I have no idea, but I do know that the world is heading down a very scary road. Police on horseback in British cities, BLM using intimidation and threats to force people to identify with their views; it's truly concerning. 

[bamboozooka]

sheep dont give a shit about agenda 21 as long as they have facebook on their smartphones and x factor on tv

i haven't spoke to anyone where i live whos a nanometre awake

[rideforever]

Agenda 21 ... "is a non-binding agreement to sustainable development"

... sustainable materialist development .... hmm ... so we replace a god centered society with one that is full of victims trying to save mater ?

Another name for this is the enslavement of souls, or degeneration from conscious life into mater.

 

I was thinking today how stupid it is ... all this environmental materialism.  As if we exist to serve mater?  As if you can save mater?  How can you save mater?  Why are scientists interested in mater?  Basically they are anti-soul.

 

Real life means the life of conscious beings, which are not material.  Material is used for conscious beings to learn through, as learning without a body is impossible, so the material is like a solid puppet you wear so that you can orientate yourself in reality and learn the basics.  Later you have a finer body of less perishable stuff.  That is reality.

Mater is not reality, mater is meaningless it goes round and round and round.

Only conscious beings are real, meaning permanent creatures ... and mater must be used to serve conscious beings.

As for the "environment" the only question is ... what use is this in the growth of conscious beings.

The entire goal of life is to increase consciousness at all levels.

That is the only goal.

Of course nature is full of creatures that have a low level consciousness and bodies ... like leaks are low level consciousnesses with bodies that we eat in leak soup.  Is that evil ?  No, it's not evil because without eating leaks your own consciousness cannot grow.

One man is indeed worth thousands of leaks and thousands of animals, because his consciousness is so powerful it is like a small sun.

Turning men into Suns is the only goal for a human society.

 

All this equality nonsense, environment nonsense, it is all miserable materialism, trying to pretend that atoms are meaningful in the material world.  But there is nothing at all meaningful here apart from a conscious being.

When material is meaningful it is only when it is used by a conscious being, like a conscious book or a conscious building built carefully by a man who is conscious ... then the material itself starts to represent something conscious.

 

 

[northern star]

Change has always come about by relatively small groups of people, who often slowly convince the mass over time that they are right.

The mass don't think or care about these things, never have and never will, but its said it only takes about 20% of people to bring the change, then it becomes the norm and others will follow. Look at slavery, cock fighting, witch burning etc, its a small group of outspoken, caring people who bring about the change in laws.

If a few influencers and celebs joined those who are awakened, then I reckon change would happen quickly as a critical mass. Just the comments in newspapers, social media, the Trafalgar Square and Freedom gathering etc, it is becoming for more widespread than it was five or ten years or even months ago. Worth noting that our resistance delays the new world order plans at the very least. Orwell's book wasnt called 1984 for nothing - the plan was meant to be in place by then. Only people waking up have stopped it thus far. 

[HistoryIsComplex]

1 hour ago, northern star said:

 

The mass don't think or care about these things, never have and never will, but its said it only takes about 20% of people to bring the change, then it becomes the norm and others will follow. Look at slavery, cock fighting, witch burning etc, its a small group of outspoken, caring people who bring about the change in laws.

 

Its the old 60 - 40 rule at work. When about 60% of society believes in something, change cannot be stopped.

 

Which is why the PTB get FREAKED OUT when MORE THAN 50% OF THE POPULACE ARE STANDING ON THE SAME SIDE ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

 

At around 60%, the "unwanted change" happens, no matter what you do to stop it.

 

Just about everything that is wrong in society is because only about 40% stand on the RIGHT SIDE on it, and 60% "don't get it" and stand on the WRONG SIDE.

 

[Bombadil]

I think a lot more people are awake and aware then you realise. In my opinion the factors such as mandatory bills in UK and reliance on a bank to receive wages etc means the average person cannot afford to object to the system. If you rent even worse. So many financial risks people are forced to go with the flow. Not right, not ok but when you have children as well you’re pretty screwed.

[Jack]

A lot are awake but at different stages.

 

I see sponsored posts by the NHS and The gov on FB and the amount of comments against trace and trace, lockdown, vaccines masks etc, is heartening

Edited September 2, 2020 by Jack

[rideforever]

People might know something dodgy is going on ... but then again they have allowed sodomy and transexualism to become mainstream in their society and taught to their children.

So ... which principles do they live from?

Which principles will they be returning to or defending?
You can know something is wrong ... but what exactly do you want to replace it with?

If you don't want Christianity, what do you want?

[Bombadil]

Religion is the cause so many ills in the world. Maybe a system where people believe what choose to believe based on their own life experience etc. No organised groups trying to remove individuality Don’t believe individuals who are religious are necessarily bad. Just seems most large groups including non religious groups start placing more pressure to conform a certain way. I don’t think religion teaches a moral way to be at all. Most people know right from wrong etc without needing to be guided by divine power or group of people.

Whether they choose to act in a way that is “moral” is a different matter. Also don’t believe sodomy is bad. Homosexuals harm no one. And in many cases are fighting for the very things we want to change on this forum. I think believing outdated Old Testament view point based on a book written thousands of years ago is the real problem we have.

Christianity is one of the most bigoted, warmongering, self serving cults in history. Millions have died for the cross. No difference between Christianity and any other brutal regime that perpetuates war for profit. . Plus Roman Catholic priest are worlds largest organised pedophile group. 

[northern star]

48 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I think a lot more people are awake and aware then you realise. In my opinion the factors such as mandatory bills in UK and reliance on a bank to receive wages etc means the average person cannot afford to object to the system. If you rent even worse. So many financial risks people are forced to go with the flow. Not right, not ok but when you have children as well you’re pretty screwed.

 

You make some really good points here. There is still a huge stigma merely talking about these things, risking losing family, friends, being socially ostracised etc, without the added trauma of risking jobs and livelihood. Some people can simply not take that risk, though in their minds they might suspect or believe much of it is true, and agree with some or all of it.  And you cant blame them, even though the long term threat is even worse!

But Ive also been hearing about staunch opposers to conspiracies muttering about how ridiculous covid is, how corrupt the banks and politicians are, things they wouldnt have dreamt of questioning a while ago.

[Bohica]

This has been bothering me lately.  I'm beginning to think it's already too late.  The news out of Australia today really sealed the deal for me.  A pregnant woman arrested in her pajamas, handcuffed in front of her children and husband for a post on facebook. That coupled with the fact the Federal Reserve is crashing the world economy leads me to believe this is not going to end well for us.  Of course, we can refuse to comply - there are billions of us and few of them - but there aren't enough of us to make a difference any longer.  I fear the cabal's agenda has already taken us so far down the sink-hole that we won't be able to dig our way out anymore.  

 

We are tied to an insane, dystopian socio-economic order. Even if we could just stop the lock-down and go back to the way we were, it would still be an insane,dystopian world. It would be wonderful if people could have a miraculous global awakening but the numbers just aren't there. The programming and social engineering of humanity has gone on too long and runs too deep. I despair for my species and the once beautiful blue planet that is being trashed by psychopathic technocrats.

[Messenger]

Try not to focus on the sleeping sheep but instead think about finding people who are awake and make friends with them. Always have business cards with you and if you don't have business cards, have some made with your name and email and phone number and whatever slogan or saying you feel best represents you or what you believe and then pass out a card to anyone who is awake. Unite with like minded people, because this seems to be what the NWO fear the most is people uniting especially those who are awake.

[FinallyAwake]

11 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Try not to focus on the sleeping sheep but instead think about finding people who are awake and make friends with them. Always have business cards with you and if you don't have business cards, have some made with your name and email and phone number and whatever slogan or saying you feel best represents you or what you believe and then pass out a card to anyone who is awake. Unite with like minded people, because this seems to be what the NWO fear the most is people uniting especially those who are awake.

Fantastic idea! Having others to talk to you about this stuff who are awake really does help. lately I’ve been struggling to put this stuff to one side and get on with other parts of my life, it’s sort of become my life and it helps having other people to talk to to get this stuff out of your head. I think someone said it right when they said most people can’t handle the truth.

[HistoryIsComplex]

2 hours ago, Bohica said:

The programming and social engineering of humanity has gone on too long and runs too deep.

 

Their programming is a TIME BOMB waiting to go off and rattle everyone awake.

 

If you sell people 1 or 2 lies, they get upset when they find out, but forget about them in a week or three.

 

If you lie to people about 55 DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF REALITY, that literally is AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.

 

Its like a married woman finding out that her husband of 20 years is secretly seeing a younger woman.

 

With the ILLUSION goes the MARRIAGE.

[Smokestack Lightnin']

Just now, FinallyAwake said:

Fantastic idea! Having others to talk to you about this stuff who are awake really does help. lately I’ve been struggling to put this stuff to one side and get on with other parts of my life, it’s sort of become my life and it helps having other people to talk to to get this stuff out of your head. I think someone said it right when they said most people can’t handle the truth.

 

'It's the easiest thing in the world to fool people but the hardest thing in the world to convince people that they've been fooled'....Mark Twain. 

 

I'd like to meet up with people who are on the same wavelength but in reality most people haven't gone through the court system (especially a civil court case) and experienced the lies, deceit and obfuscation of a judiciary system hell bent on protecting its own interests so much that standing there telling the truth becomes becomes a revolutionary act. 

I bow to their superior numbers and that's it. To cleanse my mind of the  psychological sewage over the last couple of years, I sought out Climate Change protests in and around where I live and laid into the rancid buckets of pigeon shit. 

Grown adults working as teachers and scientists hanging on Greta's every word hated it when I informed them that the boat she sailed over to Canada in was formally called 'Edmund de Rothschild' and was loaned to her by the King or Prince of Monaco or the fact that she is funded by Gate's One Foundation Charity. Most of them have absolutely no clue how she was invented in the first place.

I loved getting right on their tits and watching them try to get rid of me when they were trying to get people to sign up. They start to gang up which doesn't bother me - it's like a drug when I'm in the right mood and feel up for it. It's was so cathartic to flatten all their drivel with each utterance.   Perhaps I'm just a bit 'radio rental'  but I love confrontation with liars and deceivers. Of course, Covid rules out such protests now but I live in hope scouring the local media sites for news of a  CC, BLM or Antifa protest.