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Well ... given how retarded the entire human society seems to be ... more power to the scientologists for choosing their own brain washing rather than using the generic brand.

Maybe they get something for it ... the idea to clean up your past is a good one.   The idea to have a closed church so that they animals outside down eat all the good stuff is also good.  But of course there is dodgy shit happening in there, always is.

Not much safety in dying is there, try something anything right, don't have to stay if you don't like it.

You learn a lot from trying things.

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Here's a strange thing ... most humans believe that they are part of progress ... of a long chain of society development ... that their society comes from the past.

They rely on the past, study the past, repeat the past.

 

Rather than learning to live now, to create now, to learn new things ... by going yourself into the world and feeling with your hands and thinking with your brain.

When people say they are "learning new things" ... what they mean is that they are copying somebody else's "old things".

 

The sense of personally exploring existence to make own life and own ideas and own conclusion, and being self-reliable, self-capable ... this has withered away.   People therefore just live trying to recreate the past.

Never feel or think for themselves.

They are a SLAVE.   Never has idea that they are born good and supposed to be here.

 

Scientologists do try to strip out large amount of bullshit from past; this must be good.

Otherwise die with bullshit still covering you.

 

Also people spend lot of time criticising the past.   Everybody is stupid in the past, not like me in 2020.

People who lived before progress were stupid, but now I have Iphone.
Hmm.
British were evil in India, because India so nice everybody very sweet and pet squirrels not eat.
Everybody was very very very nice in history, not like evil British or evil American or evil ..... (insert whoever).

This logic is based on some silly things:

a. I am smarter than man who lived in past
b. Society is better than society of past
c. Human beings are not donkeys
d. In past everybody very sweet like Bambi movie except for evil bad guys

 

These ideas not very solid, more like jelly ideas.

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4 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

anything to get away from Jesus.

 

Satan's always trying, well he'll have to try a bit harder if he wants me to believe all the crap these cults come out with.

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All the not-suicidal-yet people making a mockery of the peaceable walkovers. Careful now! Those quiet unassuming religionists have swords that dont show up on airport body scans.

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Scientology  is one of the most surreal "Spiritual " movements ever to appear in recent history.....

 

Normally organizations selling enlightenment have their followers doing this ...

 

Hari Krishna devotees 

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Or this ....

 

Osho indoctrination/meditation session 

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But if you became involved in Scientology you would first undergo this ....

 

Scientology "Auditing" 

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Looks like someone having an interview with their bank manager doesn't it ... They even call it "Auditing" ... And that is exactly what they're doing , finding out how much you are worth financially and extracting it all from you  ... the first session is free . the price increase each time reaching $1,000's  per session . They tell the punter these sessions are working though his baggage(Karma) ... final goal is to get "clear" .... (Clear him out ) ....

 

If you should  reach the top level of the organization they have you dressed up in US Navel uniforms !! 

 

Top level "Sea Org" Scientologists 

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Presumably none of the people pictured above  asked .... " This is a religion why are we dressed as US Navy?" 

 

LOL ....

 

The reason is this was almost certainly  a US navy intelligence psi -op from the very beginning 

 

Ron Hubbard navel officer , founder of Scientology 

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Most spiritual movements are founded by people who are on some sort of spiritual path ...

 

Scientology was different , Navy Intelligence obviously found someone they could work with in Ron ... they were pushing the limits to see just how stupid the suckers were ...Telling them they were being audited ! .... Dressing them up in Navy uniforms ! ....

 

It would all be one big joke to the Navy psi-op masters 

 

 

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Fact is human beings are stupid destructive monkeys ... full of big mouth, spend life arguing and destroying themselves getting drunk being big nowitall sitting on sofa.

Good for people to try things.   At least not totally brain dead.

Yes many cultish things always ... people who leave Scientology often say techniques are good to clear out mess but organisation has corruption ... typical.   Some good benefits.

Otherwise die like any animal.

Humans very cowardly animal, prefer to die with friends then try something.

Animals have no God, too stupid to understand.
Many people today too stupid to even understand Christianity.

Thing everything is big joke, worship satan, tattoo face, cut off genitals ... psycho people, inside very damaged, not even at animal level, falling.

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1 hour ago, screamingeagle said:

(Osho) ...he told more truth then most of the religions combined imo

 

Ah Osho .... I experienced him first hand ... spent time in his ashrams , another Master at extracting wealth from his followers ... He declared in 1984 that 5 billion people would die of aids , and order everyone in his ashrams to wear surgical masks and gloves and condoms when having sex ....lol .... snitching was encouraged and non compliers were thrown out ..

 

But we digress I return to the Scientologists and "Auditing " .... This is so unbelievable you may think I'm making it up ! I assure you it's all true ....

 

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Remember this all started in the 1960's ... electronic gadgets were quiet novel ... And Ron supplied all his "auditors" with a primitive lie detectors (skin resistance meters) . The person being Audited would hold two metal can like things ( see picture above) ... the auditor would watch the meter while asking questions to detect any lies ... ( the person being audited did not understand this was a lie detector )
 
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So by asking a stream of questions the group would soon know everything about the person , all his innermost secrets , how he could be manipulated and used , perhaps turned to the dark side and a useful agent for US Navel intelligence.....
 
Used to be the cost of auditing was a sliding scale ... A search now seems to indicate it's a fixed rate .....

"Scientologists must attend auditing, essentially the church's term for therapy, which costs $800 an hour. These expensive auditing sessions can last a minimum of two and a half hours each, Remini said. They involve an auditor who listens and helps members “find and handle areas of distress.”Dec 14, 2016 "
 
Soon the new recruit has second mortgaged his house , and cleared out his bank account . When they realize he has no more cash left , they declare him "cleared" (cleaned out)  and he moves up ... perhaps allowed to live in as an unpaid slave within the organization
 
Eat your heart out Osho , you were just an amateur compared to these guys ! . 
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Osho did amazing work ... introduced new type of meditation and good relationships between women and men. 

But when he was in Oregon the Hollywood rainbow arrived with drugs and guns and rainbows and destroyed everything.

 

Of course it's safer not to be in a cult.

 

On this planet humans always attack something new, bring it down like lynchmob.

Hate anything new.

Only like misery that they are used to then die in peace, die all through life, die when alive, die when die.

 

Anyone tries to do anything else ... bring him down.

Osho techniques similar like scientology ... designed to clear out shit from inside subconscious.

Many people believe inside them is very clean and all world problems caused by ... some bad guy out there.
Not me ... everyone else is doing it.
Wrong.
You are doing it, inside you is big mess.
Many people try very hard to not clean anything inside them their whole life.

Very crazy planet.
This is why there are cults ... in order to do anything new must have closed doors, or wild beasts tear you down.
Unfortunate but true.
No other way.

Of course corruption everywhere.
Very difficult place, on one side silly humans always destroying, on other side cults with corruption and make people poor.
In middle is razor's edge : correctly awakening your self and cleaning everything inside become pure being.
Very narrow gate to Light.

 

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1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

Ah Osho .... I experienced him first hand ... spent time in his ashrams , another Master at extracting wealth from his followers ... He declared in 1984 that 5 billion people would die of aids , and order everyone in his ashrams to wear surgical masks and gloves and condoms when having sex ....lol .... snitching was encouraged and non compliers were thrown out ..

 

But we digress I return to the Scientologists and "Auditing " .... This is so unbelievable you may think I'm making it up ! I assure you it's all true ....

very short sighted(biased?) from someone who says chaneling and SSP(slave version ect.)are real....

 

the old forum had a thread and it was excellent.....

 

 

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Religion: another way of extracting money from unsuspecting people (suckers)

 

And yeah, the "auditing" process... sounds very 'Common Purpose' in the way they extract personal information, or "dirt" that can then be later used against you (manipulation).

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Big fashion today to kill religion in West, now everyone says.

Next week fashion to jump in lake, everyone does !!!

 

Every week less religion in West, everyone week more stupidity in West.

Connection?

 

People of the past, from Ancient Greek to CS Lewis speak so beautifully about life meaning origin and destination.

Today people tattoo face black.

Hmmm ....

 

I know I know.

Next thing sheep says is ... "well Jesus maybe okay but organised religion is bad" ... sheep organise 1 -2 mantra.  First religion is bad.  Second organised religion is bad.

Everyone says now just like tape recorder, press Play then repeat.

 

Message of Buddha Jesus Laozi is same ... you live in poverty and you are the poverty.

Nobody else is "doing it".

People love love love this kind of game.  Then die.

Very silly species.

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On 11/18/2020 at 7:29 PM, SuperstarNeilC said:

 

I knew LA was different, but what the fuck is this? 🤣

 

Love Bill, one of my favourite comedians. I've not heard this one and I didn't know he nearly joined, madness. 

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