Jess N Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Maybe Donald Trump is playing both sides - because he has to! He is a maverick, difficult to control by the elite. I hope his agenda is about the people, as he says it is. Apparently he is draining the swamp, saving the children, stopping human trafficking.... I was so shocked to listen to David Icke, who I follow for years and I know he is right most of the time. This time I hope he is wrong. We need to able to believe in something. Trump might have been elected by the Elite but turned out as a non-puppet - fighting the Elite. He is the first president who is not a pedophile nor a satanist. The Elite can't blackmail him. Was he rubbing shoulders with them? Yes! But just to figure out what is going on. He has to be two faced to play their game. I really hope David Icke is wrong on Donald Trump.... Listen to this please: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/believe/e/53938663?autoplay=true 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I believe if Trump was on the level and what the Q brigade think he is them he would of been JFK'd by now. What he is, is the figure head the PTB need to keep the people fighting among themselves. if the people did stop fighting among themselves they would soon see the real enemy and it would be over for the PTB. And if I'm wrong and he's the real deal. well "back and to the left" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Be wary though. I don't think Covid, George Floyd and the riots were planned by Trump or part of his agenda. How could they be? They have near scuppered his economic success claims and Biden is trying to twist it to make out this was all to benefit Trump and all part of the problems the US is facing. Anyone should be able to see that these things were set as traps. Whatever else people think of Trump, covid and riots must have been the last things he wanted. Edited August 31, 2020 by northern star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 No U.S. President has ever been as attacked as Trump. I mean, they immediately trotted out a PORNSTAR who claimed to have slept with him while he was freshly married, and the 5 big media companies in the U.S. all put her on daytime TV shows. Do I agree with all his policies? Maybe not. Why would they attack him 24/7 - CNN ? - if he is doing THEIR work for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothic Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'd love him to be our saviour I really would, we need one. My view is, if Hilary was elected and tried to pull this shit it would be civil war. Trump is their guy, he's fighting the bad, he's a maverick, he's one of them so they trust the direction he takes them. Pre-election he has to appeal to all sides. It's after he gets in again that it matters. If he does. Biden is a nightmare. Trump may be a nightmare. They either control all sides in most countries or they were forced to accelerate the plan because people like Trump got into power. I'm still guessing but the cynic in me says they couldn't do this with America without a Trump-like figure. Hope I'm wrong there, really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 David has noticeably shifted his position on trump , has said if you vote for the other side in coming election it will be a disaster .... The nightmare unfolding in the US is unbelievably insane ...just watch infowars for a day! ...No one can doubt it's the cabal Vs Trump .... That said no one is our "saviour" the pressure on Trump must be unbearable , he could be killed and replaces by a reptilian any time ...probably just the many prayers being said that is holding this back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald77 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, oz93666 said: David has noticeably shifted his position on trump , has said if you vote for the other side in coming election it will be a disaster .... The nightmare unfolding in the US is unbelievably insane ...just watch infowars for a day! ...No one can doubt it's the cabal Vs Trump .... That said no one is our "saviour" the pressure on Trump must be unbearable , he could be killed and replaces by a reptilian any time ...probably just the many prayers being said that is holding this back Deal with it mr 666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald77 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Jess N said: Maybe Donald Trump is playing both sides - because he has to! He is a maverick, difficult to control by the elite. I hope his agenda is about the people, as he says it is. Apparently he is draining the swamp, saving the children, stopping human trafficking.... I was so shocked to listen to David Icke, who I follow for years and I know he is right most of the time. This time I hope he is wrong. We need to able to believe in something. Trump might have been elected by the Elite but turned out as a non-puppet - fighting the Elite. He is the first president who is not a pedophile nor a satanist. The Elite can't blackmail him. Was he rubbing shoulders with them? Yes! But just to figure out what is going on. He has to be two faced to play their game. I really hope David Icke is wrong on Donald Trump.... Listen to this please: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/believe/e/53938663?autoplay=true Check Trump biography and tell me hes the great white hope again. AMAZING!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said: No U.S. President has ever been as attacked as Trump. I mean, they immediately trotted out a PORNSTAR who claimed to have slept with him while he was freshly married, and the 5 big media companies in the U.S. all put her on daytime TV shows. Do I agree with all his policies? Maybe not. Why would they attack him 24/7 - CNN ? - if he is doing THEIR work for them? It's part of the show to keep people distracted. "They" need to vilify Trump while he portrays that he is "draining the swamp". Meanwhile he immediately filled his cabinet with a Goldman Sachs banker, Steven Mnuchin, and one of rothschild's bankers, I forget his name. Wilbur Ross. Trump has also been pushing the coronavirus vaccine, so keep that in mind. Also, trump plays by the same banking industry rules that everyone else does. He is a puppet. You want to pull the curtain back and see who's in control then you look at the old bloodlines and secret societies. Old bloodlines in France, Switzerland, and Denmark, Italy, etc. US politics is a good cop bad cop ploy and Americans are too bamboozled by it all to see through it. It's the pork and cheap beer. I'm going to hit that book, Holy Blood Holy Grail next after I finish the current book I'm on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald77 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Ronald77 said: The nightmare unfolding in the US is unbelievably insane ...just watch infowars for a day! ...No one can doubt it's the cabal Vs Trump .... I doubt it infowars is your suorce huh? LOSAH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Trumps been pretty clever, intentionally or not. By constantly arguing against fake news he has given the MSM the great opportunity of becoming the “fact” checkers of what we are shown. Luckily now if I want to be reassured or reliably informed I can just head straight to the BBC website. NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuZu Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Jess N said: Maybe Donald Trump is playing both sides - because he has to! He is a maverick, difficult to control by the elite. I hope his agenda is about the people, as he says it is. Apparently he is draining the swamp, saving the children, stopping human trafficking.... I was so shocked to listen to David Icke, who I follow for years and I know he is right most of the time. This time I hope he is wrong. We need to able to believe in something. Trump might have been elected by the Elite but turned out as a non-puppet - fighting the Elite. He is the first president who is not a pedophile nor a satanist. The Elite can't blackmail him. Was he rubbing shoulders with them? Yes! But just to figure out what is going on. He has to be two faced to play their game. I really hope David Icke is wrong on Donald Trump.... Listen to this please: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/believe/e/53938663?autoplay=true David Icke going against Trump is the very reason why out of all the conspiracy circles, David Icke is actually the only guy who seems the most legit. Gislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein are/were Mossad. Photo'd many times with Donald Trump. Who knows what dirt they have on him. His entire foreign policy has been a puppet of Mossad. If Donald Trump was going after human trafficking, then why did he say " I wish her well" When talking about Gislaine Maxwell? A human trafficker of child prostitutes? Tell me that? The problem in the USA, is that it is so much of a cesspool of career Zionist politicians who do not beleive in America, that Americans are almost waiting for a Messiah, believe anything. And right now that just so happens to be Donald Trump. As long as he slags off them other career politicians, he can do no wrong. Regardless of how bad he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuZu Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said: No U.S. President has ever been as attacked as Trump. By the mainstream media. And even before Trump was elected, trust in the mainstream media worldwide is at the lowest it has ever been since the printing press began. The mainstream media helped many politicians become Prime Ministers and Presidents by giving them a positive light. However that only works so many ways until the people see it for what it is. B.S So what do the "elites" do? They switch it up. It's like Wrestling, the mainstream media has gone from babyface to heel. Still as popular as ever, still serves a purprose, but in a different way. The more they attack trump, the popular he will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I have done my own extensive research on Trump and as far as leaders go, he's about as good as you're gonna get at this moment in time! For all his faults! Whether or not you agree with me, or David or whoever, BY GOD look at the alternative. BIDEN. Christ if he gets the job of running the free world then I might just have to up my own job expectations! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuodHumana Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 David cannot side with any president. He would lose so much support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comininfromthecold Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 trumps a better actor than john wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuZu Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr H said: I have done my own extensive research on Trump and as far as leaders go, he's about as good as you're gonna get at this moment in time! For all his faults! He already picked up the Tree of Life award as far back as the early 1980s. You only get that if you are a massive Zionist and part of the so called "elite". As for Biden, he's just the same thing on the other side of the coin. Massive Zionist and career politician. Absolutely terrible at his job and only their to shake hands and sniff girls hair. Trump has the tree of life award, a square named after him in Jerusalem, and gold coins minted in Israel with his head on. He is the chosen one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 True that Donald Trump is attacked a lot and stays on the cock of some elites, but it is always a struggle between them. They are like the street gangs. He can be sympatic when slams the masks, but, apart from having little power to ride Fauci and Birx off, he is serving the ultra-capitalism and the high finance, furthermore he is very divisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ZuZu said: He already picked up the Tree of Life award as far back as the early 1980s. You only get that if you are a massive Zionist and part of the so called "elite". Trump has the tree of life award, a square named after him in Jerusalem, and gold coins minted in Israel with his head on. He is the chosen one. I don't understand the significance of your point, that Trump is a Zionist and was awarded the tree of life award, relating to his ability to govern the USA. IF you don't mind tying the dots on that one? And if there is a significance, is there evidence that he received this award, and that it is given to elite zionists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr H said: I have done my own extensive research on Trump and as far as leaders go, he's about as good as you're gonna get at this moment in time! For all his faults! Whether or not you agree with me, or David or whoever, BY GOD look at the alternative. BIDEN. Christ if he gets the job of running the free world then I might just have to up my own job expectations! I think it's by design to have a moron as an opposition to the Republican party thus getting a sure win for a second mandate for Mr, Trump... their puppet for the second Covid wave and the NWO agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 hours ago, ZuZu said: David Icke going against Trump is the very reason why out of all the conspiracy circles, David Icke is actually the only guy who seems the most legit. Gislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein are/were Mossad. Photo'd many times with Donald Trump. Who knows what dirt they have on him. His entire foreign policy has been a puppet of Mossad. If Donald Trump was going after human trafficking, then why did he say " I wish her well" When talking about Gislaine Maxwell? A human trafficker of child prostitutes? Tell me that? The problem in the USA, is that it is so much of a cesspool of career Zionist politicians who do not beleive in America, that Americans are almost waiting for a Messiah, believe anything. And right now that just so happens to be Donald Trump. As long as he slags off them other career politicians, he can do no wrong. Regardless of how bad he is. I'm not a Trump sympathiser but history tells me that photos can be manipulated and therefore the photos you have seen could be Photoshop'd. You refer to Epstein and Maxwell, but how many innocent people who have possibly come into contact with him and were probably mortified to find out he was a raving paedo. Does that therefore make anyone who has been in contact with either of these two a paedo? No it doesn't, so we shouldn't jump to conclusions because of a photograph. If Trump had been up to no good, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Dems would be hunting him down for it by now and have him removed. I'm not sold on the Q stuff but I haven't ruled it out either. In this crazy period, anything is plausible right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 9 hours ago, ZuZu said: He already picked up the Tree of Life award as far back as the early 1980s. You only get that if you are a massive Zionist and part of the so called "elite". As for Biden, he's just the same thing on the other side of the coin. Massive Zionist and career politician. Absolutely terrible at his job and only their to shake hands and sniff girls hair. Trump has the tree of life award, a square named after him in Jerusalem, and gold coins minted in Israel with his head on. He is the chosen one. Are you shitting me? Trump is on gold coins?! Wow. Yeah trump is a puppet for sure then. Many Americans have been led to believe that israel is an ally of the USA, but that's because of heavy programming by the MSM, government, and "education" system. There are a lot of Jewish people in the USA, so much so that I doubt the 2% of the population claims, and I find that most are of European Ashkenazi descent which is not "Semitic" or of Shem. But anyway, here is Joe Biden saying that he is a Zionist and one does not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist. And that is true, a person can not even be very religious but also support the israel state. In fact, most people don't know much about zionism and yet they still support israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, Messenger said: here is Joe Biden saying that he is a Zionist and one does not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist All his children still married them though so he probably has more of a dog in the fight than he lets on. 2 minutes ago, Messenger said: Are you shitting me? Trump is on gold coins?! Wow. Not just any gold coins, they're Trump-Cyrus Temple coins. Ivanka has been nicknamed the new Queen Esther too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: All his children still married them though so he probably has more of a dog in the fight than he lets on. Not just any gold coins, they're Trump-Cyrus Temple coins. Ivanka has been nicknamed the new Queen Esther too. Enigmatic, when you get a chance, please tell me more about Cyrus and Queen Esther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Messenger said: Enigmatic, when you get a chance, please tell me more about Cyrus and Queen Esther. I don't know much about King Cyrus or Queen Esther, probably like most folks, although I feel like I should know more about them, especially if the leader of the most powerful nation in the Western world is on a coin with one of them. "Cyrus the Great figures in the Hebrew Bible as the patron and deliverer of the Jews. He is mentioned 23 times by name and alluded to several times more. According to the Bible, Cyrus the Great, king of Persia, was the monarch under whom the Babylonian captivity ended." "Esther is described in all versions of the Book of Esther as the Jewish queen of a Persian king Ahasuerus. In the narrative, Ahasuerus seeks a new wife after his queen, Vashti, refuses to obey him, and Esther is chosen for her beauty." I already knew the basics that I have quoted from Wiki, but there might be more significance to those biblical/historical figures than I'm aware of. I also remember the media saying that the Trump coin is likely to rile Iranians, who uniformly respect King Cyrus as an ancient Persian hero. So typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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