Someone2630 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The thing that I find the most interesting, is that (excluding Sweden) EVERY Political Party, left, centre or right is a party to this complete bullshit. One would expect either the so-called "Far-Right" or the so-called "Far-Left", would be howling opposition. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why is this? It's not only the UK, it's EVERYWHERE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 All "Establishment" political parties have been infiltrated and subverted, and are all really following the same agenda, despite what outward differences they may have in their 'manifesto policies'. You'll always notice that whatever party 'wins' an election, any manifesto 'pledges' go out the window, and its 'business as usual'. The different political parties give voters this illusion that we live in a 'democracy'. Any 'genuine' smaller political parties outside of the 'establishment' never get a look-in. Never get featured in mainstream news or press. Never get invited to 'televised debates'. The mainstream Establishment media constantly makes voters believe there is only ever a choice between Establishment political parties. Whether thats Labour or Conservatives in the UK, or Republican or Democrat in the USA. I'm sure you get the same thing in most other supposedly 'democratic' countries too. It's all an illusion. There is no democracy, there is no 'alternative'. Not unless people can break themselves away from 'Establishment Thinking' and start getting behind smaller parties, but this has to be done in great numbers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone2630 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 I would like to agree but . . . Here, we have a Party called the Vlaams Belang. They did very well in the last election, but the Govt here have something called a "cordon sanitaire", this means that the Vlaams Belang are shut out of any kind of collaboration with any other political party here. Reason - they opposed immigration and refugees and want to split Belgium into Flanders and Wallonia. Flanders speak Dutch and Wallonia speak French and both sides hate each others guts. The NVA are the biggest Party in Flanders, and if you put the NVA and the Vlaams Belang together, they would have a majority, but the NVA refuse to talk to the Vlaams Belang so to date, we still have no Federal Government they are trying to sideline both the NVA AND the Vlaams Belang and form a government of tiny insignificant parties. So much for Democracy. Democracy is just a word. BTW over here you are FORCED to vote Nevertheless, one would have thought that the outlawed Vlaams Belang would be up on their back legs trying to win votes by denouncing the bullshit, but they aren't. They are pushing the agenda to muzzle up. As you say, it doesn't matter a damn who you vote for the outcome is always the same. If they thought voting would change anything they would ban it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr WHO? Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Someone2630 said: The thing that I find the most interesting, is that (excluding Sweden) EVERY Political Party, left, centre or right is a party to this complete bullshit. One would expect either the so-called "Far-Right" or the so-called "Far-Left", would be howling opposition. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why is this? It's not only the UK, it's EVERYWHERE. Swedens political parties are as much indoctrinated infiltrated as any other country by the globalist, dont even think otherwise! Just look at Norway, former long time prime minister and WHO boss Gro Harlem Brundtland is madame CFR, Atlantic council NWO Globalist herself, Patrick Woods favorite talking subject when it comes to someone whos a agenda 21 pusher! Edited August 31, 2020 by Dr WHO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) First of all they are bourgeois parties, that follow only economic interests and don't believe in high ideal and have not got eroic soul. Second, the network of entities wich command, above the parties, have organized the system in order to keep all the sides of the politcal spectrum under controll, excluding whom is not controllable. Edited August 31, 2020 by alfredo79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Someone2630 said: The thing that I find the most interesting, is that (excluding Sweden) EVERY Political Party, left, centre or right is a party to this complete bullshit. One would expect either the so-called "Far-Right" or the so-called "Far-Left", would be howling opposition. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why is this? It's not only the UK, it's EVERYWHERE. Most but not all have gone along with it. Belarus springs to mind. called out the WHO and the EMF so guess what! The world says that the dictator must be removed! I'm surprised Russia went along with the BS, but sadly that really just goes to show even mighty Russia is just another puppet state for the PTB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I think the party's are somewhat irrlevant. Look at Boris Johnson for example. He is not capable of combing his hair let alone invent and partake knowingly in an elaborate conspiracy. It's the "machinery" that runs the machine. You start to get a glimpse of some of these people or "advisors"/institutions during some of these crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 ^^^Exactly, the dafter the better. They've gone one step further with Biden. Some sort of dementia I'd say. Even worse than this, they'll be people actually voting for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge of God Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Of course they are! people in my country use to say 'well if its true,than the government has to go' and i use to say 'what about the opposition parties? they all blind and deaf and stupid?' of course they are ! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 15 hours ago, Someone2630 said: The thing that I find the most interesting, is that (excluding Sweden) EVERY Political Party, left, centre or right is a party to this complete bullshit. One would expect either the so-called "Far-Right" or the so-called "Far-Left", would be howling opposition. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why is this? It's not only the UK, it's EVERYWHERE. To think that most politicians are in on a conspiracy is an error IMHO I will talk about the UK because I'm most familiar with that , it's probably similar in Sweden ..... There are about 2,000 individuals who put themselves up for election (600 are elected and are MP's) .... These are mostly ordinary people who have wives and children , live on ordinary streets , they are part of the public and want the best for their country , most could not be corrupted and would not willingly be involved in a covid hoax ... They will all be watched closely , and the secret government will be after compromising and corrupting them for greater control , to get them to vote with the party line , blackmailing them .... Very few of the 600 MPs will know covid is part of a plan to enslave us , perhaps a dozen or so , if that ... the Prime Minister probably doesn't know .... The MPs easy to compromise are often gay , have no wives or children to keep them sane ..the ted heath type , Cyril Smith ... "lord " steel Liberal leader ... they like young boys , and it will all be recorded so they can be blackmailed.. People like Boris Johnson is not a microbiologist... he relies on his scientific advisors, these will be selected by the cabal ...he will also come under heavy ET mind control .... most is done by mind control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I would like to add this here. Yuri Bezmenov talks about this and subversion in all areas of our society. Very relevant and very spooky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: The different political parties give voters this illusion that we live in a 'democracy'. Absolutely. Look what happened when the BNP were a threat. In one town it looked like the BNP were going to win mayorship, so they stopped mayors roles and changed boundaries. I'm no BNP fan, but the way they did them was so undemocratic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone2630 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: I would like to add this here. Yuri Bezmenov talks about this and subversion in all areas of our society. Very relevant and very spooky Replace KGB, Bolsheviks, and USSR, with Zionists, Jews, and Israel and it's about right 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) At the European Parliament ... and I know this because some of the Brexit MEP's did a weekly vidcast from there ... MEPs have huge offices, they have huge staff, limousine minicabs and express queueing at restaurants. Long hallways to walk and landscaped gardens. And there is a welcome back of Champagne and Chocolates. It's a bit like winning the lottery. But in reality these people have nothing to do with the activities of the EU. They can go on TV and say whatever they feel like, they can "fight" in the Parliament building ... but it all means nothing ... they are not a Government. The Government is ... where exactly ? Nobody is sure. And in the gap the Corporations-Cultural-Marxists etc... make all the decisions. I suppose the Cultural Marxists are the soulless fools who believe they are "making a difference" because they are so empty of conscience and are the perfect front people for the Corporate power. In the UK ... just look at PMQ ... "Prime Minister I demand you tell me what you are going to do with the pet cat of Mrs Smith, 71, of Beconsfield who has called the fire brigade 3 times this week to get Reggie out of a tree!" WTF ? Free trade agreements last decades and part of the agreement is that you cannot change any major laws in your country or you pay fines ... they are a non-democratic supra-national Government. Which since 1990 has reduced all politics to meaninglessness. The total nonsense MPs speak about today comes partly from their own shock at being totally impotent, and then their agreeing to remain there and makebelieve. Anyway beyond that ... it is clear to me that human beings as they are ... will not retain contact with a grounded reality in the presence of an easy life and material pleasures. They will destroy themselves. I was watching yet another bloke sanding his beach hut today, in Brighton every day someone is sanding their little beach hut ... and wondering where purpose is in this society. The British Empire was not created by "men" sanding their beach huts on the bank holiday. I hear young children talk about "transgender" in the streets ... where 50 years ago they would talk about God, purpose, discipline, goals, life and so on. Ugly. I am part of it as well. .. and "we are all free" ain't gonna fix this society. There is only one way. Edited September 1, 2020 by rideforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 hours ago, shadowmoon said: Absolutely. Look what happened when the BNP were a threat. In one town it looked like the BNP were going to win mayorship, so they stopped mayors roles and changed boundaries. I'm no BNP fan, but the way they did them was so undemocratic. If he was in charge, the WHO would have been booted out a long time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunted Universe Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 This reminds me of the moon race between the Soviets and the yanks. Both worked hand in hand but have the illusion they were competing and enemies. This is why Russia has never bothered to expose the obvious fake landings. its all about the $$$$$$$$. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerProfessor Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) On 9/1/2020 at 8:34 AM, oz93666 said: There are about 2,000 individuals who put themselves up for election (600 are elected and are MP's) .... These are mostly ordinary people who have wives and children , live on ordinary streets , they are part of the public and want the best for their country , most could not be corrupted and would not willingly be involved in a covid hoax ... They will all be watched closely , and the secret government will be after compromising and corrupting them for greater control , to get them to vote with the party line , blackmailing them .... Very few of the 600 MPs will know covid is part of a plan to enslave us , perhaps a dozen or so , if that ... the Prime Minister probably doesn't know .... The MPs easy to compromise are often gay , have no wives or children to keep them sane ..the ted heath type , Cyril Smith ... "lord " steel Liberal leader ... they like young boys , and it will all be recorded so they can be blackmailed.. I don't agree with you there. I mean these people are familiar with the UN Sustainable Development Goals and Agenda 2030. But they are usually from a whole families of lawyers, civil servants or previous career politicians. It's a cult that you are generally born into, with connections to black nobility families. Any meme that becomes a bit too popular is doubtful. Prospective MPs are very carefully vetted. The few MPs who accurately represent British public opinion now are the likes of Peter Bone, Esther McVey and formerly Kate Hoey. Definitely under 10 of the 600 or so. There is no need to blackmail them. Anything too Wikileaks or Pizzagate-esque is suspicious and just another distraction or a method for bringing down the morale of the public. If a PM, especially, fails to achieve what's required of them they can simply be removed at the following election if necessary and replaced with somebody who is compliant. Or forced out with lies in the media, or threats. Remember 'they' don't need evidence when they can just fabricate stories that most people will believe anyway (reference the lack of evidence on Ted Heath and Leon Britton, for example - no trials, no convictions). Edited October 1, 2020 by DerProfessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, DerProfessor said: I don't agree with you there. I mean these people are familiar with the UN Sustainable Development Goals and Agenda 2030. But they are usually from a whole families of lawyers, civil servants or previous career politicians. It's a cult that you are generally born into, with connections to black nobility families. I doubt if you asked the average UK politician they would know much about it ... like the public they would be behind it ... they think the UN is a good thing , and "Sustainability" should be embraced ... It's all done by deception , of 95% of politicians and all the public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnitak Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Believe it or not the Lib Dems actually all voted against the Corona Virus Act yesterday. So they are not involved in any shape or form, they are on the our side. There just isnt enough of them in parliament to make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Alnitak said: Believe it or not the Lib Dems actually all voted against the Corona Virus Act yesterday. So they are not involved in any shape or form, they are on the our side. There just isnt enough of them in parliament to make any difference. Lib Dem’s follow the climate change hoax, aka agenda 21. All parties benefit the elite somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnitak Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Seeker said: Lib Dem’s follow the climate change hoax, aka agenda 21. All parties benefit the elite somehow Yes your right but i was happy to see them vote against this. I forget the climate stuff, they were also anti brexit. None of the current system are what we want. The decks need to be cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 12:57 AM, bryan said: If he was in charge, the WHO would have been booted out a long time ago. No reactions, but fair play to him. He has been calling this scam out for months on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 4:53 PM, Someone2630 said: Why are ALL political parties part of the conspiracy? The two party system is a hegelian dialectic It is a phoney war between authoritarian-state-capitalism and authoritarian-state-socialism with the desired goal to merge the two into a synthesis which is TECHNOCRACY When you vote for a politician you didn't choose who was going to stand. The political party chooses who is going to stand. You only get to vote for who the system offers up for you to vote for Don't expect a solution through the political system. The solution is going to have to come from us: the people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Macnamara said: The two party system is a hegelian dialectic It is a phoney war between authoritarian-state-capitalism and authoritarian-state-socialism with the desired goal to merge the two into a synthesis which is TECHNOCRACY When you vote for a politician you didn't choose who was going to stand. The political party chooses who is going to stand. You only get to vote for who the system offers up for you to vote for Don't expect a solution through the political system. The solution is going to have to come from us: the people The only solution through the political system will be if enough people reject the Establishment parties and vote for an alternative. Abstaining, or 'spoling' your vote achieves nothing. It is a minority of the electorate that keeps the Establishment in power and ensures that nothing changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: The only solution through the political system will be if enough people reject the Establishment parties and vote for an alternative. I'm not convinced that would work because the party you vote into power then forms a 'government' which is effectively a 'cabinet' of approximately 20 politicians hand chosen by that party to act as the heads of all the various departments of government with the exception of HMRC which has no ministerial oversight But just because you have placed a minister at the head of each department it doesn't mean that the large beurocratic pyramid underneath them is going to comply with their instructions In fact mountbatten formed a plot along with military chiefs and leading industrialists during the harold wilson government to overthrow the government in a fascist coup. In the same way, if you formed a government that then tried to push back against all those system serving civil servants in the civil service you would then come up against the entire freemasonic power structure that would include those very same industrialists, financiers and other powerful elements that mountbatten sought to recruit The system is theirs and they won't let you use it against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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