peter Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) The earth and the moon are described as a planet moon system ,however it should be described as a planet planet system as our moon is much bigger than Pluto. If you look at the the size of our moon with regards to the size of other moons in our solar system and their respective planets our moon should be between 70 to 100 miles across. If the moon did not form with the earth and that appears to be the case ,how did the moon get into a circular orbit around the earth as earths gravity is not strong enough to capture an object of that size and if by some extraordinary fluke it did manage to do so the orbit would not be circular, it would be an elongated parabolic orbit. Also how did the moon get to exactly right place so the sun and moon seem to be the same size from the perspective of the earths view point One other thing I find interesting is that during a lunar eclipse the size of the shadow cast by the moon falls within the parameters of what size the moon should actually be, this probably means nothing, just an observation that's all Edited September 2, 2020 by peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, peter said: The earth and the moon are described as a planet moon system ,however it should be described as a planet planet system as our moon is much bigger than Pluto. https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/item/why-is-pluto-no-longer-a-planet/ So, the three criteria of the IAU for a full-sized planet are: It is in orbit around the Sun. It has sufficient mass to assume hydrostatic equilibrium (a nearly round shape). It has “cleared the neighborhood” around its orbit. The Moon fails on point 3 it hasn't cleared mass from around its vicinity, it isn't the dominant mass and point 1, it orbits the sun by virtue of it orbiting Earth - and that makes it a Moon by definition. Big Moon though, very intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The moon seems to be inside out, meaning it has a hard shell and a non existent interior,what is even more strange is in the rock and soil samples that were brought back . Brass (manufactured metal), mica and amphibole ( these minerals are generally found on earth in both sedimentary and igneous rock . With regards to the sedimentary rock there is no indication there has ever been water on the moon so I believe we can safely discount that method of formation. Igneous rock is is produced by volcanic activity and at present the is a lot of discussion weather the maria or seas were produced by said volcanic activity or by some other method) . There was also nearly pure titanium found and uranium 236 and neptunium 237 which do not occur naturally in nature. In 1976 the Soviets announced that they had discovered a type of iron found in a soil sample brought back in 1970 from the sea of crisis by an unmanned mission that dose not rust , this is also unknown in nature 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Hi kj35, thanks for starting this moon thread. I have watched the video and read a couple of books, all fascinating.. any more good book advise would be greatly appreciated , in the mean time I took some pics last night... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red pill taken Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Red pill taken said: Hi kj35, thanks for starting this moon thread. I have watched the video and read a couple of books, all fascinating.. any more good book advise would be greatly appreciated , in the mean time I took some pics last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Red pill taken said: This is the moon, both shots, you can see Mars above it in the second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Red pill taken said: The Moon and Mars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 There appears to be extremely dense and very large circular masses about about 20 -40 miles beneath the centers of the moons maria,these were dubbed mascons and were discovered because they distorted the orbits of space craft flying over or near them. What these are is anybodies guess , but the fact they are under the maria ,areas that are supposed to have been produced by the outpourings of volcanic activity , however there is no indication that the moon has ever been hot enough to produce volcanic activity and every indication that it is essentially hollow, the discovery of these subterranean artifacts is very interesting indeed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 The "official" idea is its an ancient asteroid that slamed into it billions of years ago.. but I've just finished this book and also the Ingo swam book about the moon..they would beg to differe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Braun Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I didn't agree with that fact that the missins to the Moon are expensive.The flight to the Moon costs cheaper than produce the film. E.g. the upcoming Indian mission Chandrayaan-2 is cheaper than Hollywood's 2014 movie Interstellar.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaspars Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 12:21 PM, Eva Braun said: I didn't agree with that fact that the missins to the Moon are expensive.The flight to the Moon costs cheaper than produce the film. E.g. the upcoming Indian mission Chandrayaan-2 is cheaper than Hollywood's 2014 movie Interstellar.. Yep, it is cheaper, but it could be more expensive due to corruption like in UK (the article is here "Satellite technology and a wayward compass") or you can take Corona reason or Brexit, which leads to unpredictable situations. Anyway, sometimes I think that it's better to explore Earth better than space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 2:18 PM, kj35 said: What is the Moon?? I am still not sure, but it cannot be very far away and definitely appears many times as translucent. I just uploaded this for you. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) A reservoir of energy in the moon ‘In the legends of every people, even the most primitive savage tribes, there enters the conception of the astral light as the medium of thought vibrations and of magican acts. Sir J.G. Frazer, the eminant anthropologist and authority in folklore, records a number of them in his ‘Golden Bough’. A number of others have also discussed the nature of this hypothetical force recognised by the primitives, without having approached to any clear formulation of its nature as the great magical agent. This could hardly be expected, inasmuch as their studies and researches never for an instant leave the academic plane. The Melanasians of the south sea isles believe as Professor Bronislaw Malinosky records in his booklet on Myths, in a storehouse or a reservoir of supernatural or magical force which they call mana and, like a similar force conceived as Orenda by the North American Indians, is believed to have its centre in the moon. The latter seems to contain a huge tank, as it were, of this occult power which would appear to be associated by them with the source of life and energy...I say, is a very vague formulation of that reality which in Magic we call the Astral Light.’ -Regardie Edited October 3, 2020 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Zulu traditions speak of a time before there was a moon, and given the amount of anomalies ,one would have to ask if it really is a natural satellite, and if it's not who put it there? Edited October 4, 2020 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, amy G said: I am still not sure, but it cannot be very far away and definitely appears many times as translucent. https://rsgb.org/main/technical/space-satellites/moonbounce/ times a thousand radio clubs!! EME regularly takes place on all amateur bands from 50MHz up to 47GHz, with 144MHz and 1296MHz by far the most popular bands for activity. Some EME activity has even taken place on the 21 and 28MHz amateur bands. A simple 144 MHz Dual 9-element Yagi setup for EME One of the unique characteristics of EME is that it is possible to hear and observe your own transmissions echoed back approximately 2.5 seconds later as the transmitted signal propagates from the earth to the moon, is reflected, and propagates back to the earth. The Moon is half of 2.5 light seconds away. It is never translucent. Edited October 4, 2020 by Comedy Time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: https://rsgb.org/main/technical/space-satellites/moonbounce/ times a thousand radio clubs!! EME regularly takes place on all amateur bands from 50MHz up to 47GHz, with 144MHz and 1296MHz by far the most popular bands for activity. Some EME activity has even taken place on the 21 and 28MHz amateur bands. A simple 144 MHz Dual 9-element Yagi setup for EME One of the unique characteristics of EME is that it is possible to hear and observe your own transmissions echoed back approximately 2.5 seconds later as the transmitted signal propagates from the earth to the moon, is reflected, and propagates back to the earth. The Moon is half of 2.5 light seconds away. It is never translucent. The wavelength frequency is entirely measurable and provable too. Just need to facepalm some of the moon is a disc stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, kj35 said: The wavelength frequency is entirely measurable and provable too. What do you mean? And how is it possible that this is nearly 1/4 million miles away? Fyi, I took that picture recently with a camera that anyone can get off amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory-peccary Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Try and find 'Who Built The Moon' by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler. You should be able to find a pdf out there somewhere. They make a very good case... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, amy G said: What do you mean? And how is it possible that this is nearly 1/4 million miles away? Fyi, I took that picture recently with a camera that anyone can get off amazon. I'm not turning this thread into another flat earth nonsense. Nice try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, amy G said: Fyi, I took that picture recently with a camera that anyone can get off amazon. Nice, you bought a camera with a really powerful zoom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, kj35 said: I'm not turning this thread into another flat earth nonsense. Nice try. Do not panic, we are just discussing what the moon is. Is the distance not important to you? Is its material not important to you? Do you find it the least bit odd that the character or the moon's light and the sun's light is so different? Why is it hotter in direct sunlight than it is in the shade? Easy answer, yes? Well, why is it colder in direct moonlight than it is in the shade? I'm not sure if you even knew that that was fact, nor that the experiment has been replicated several times, but now you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just read the book Gregory pecary put the link up for,( cheers for that) well recommended. Agreed they make a compelling case. Now where did I park my Dolorean. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 8:52 PM, amy G said: And how is it possible that this is nearly 1/4 million miles away? Why is it not possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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