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As somebody who grew up in a very religious family, I've strayed away from Roman Catholic church that my parents are a part of, as I've seen a lot of contradictions and illogicness in Bible's teachings and how Vatican reacts to global events. I've been also intrigued by parallels between Jesus and many others (Horus, Nimrod, Mithra...). Do those parallels hold up?

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The Vatican was infiltrated at least two decades ago. A corrupt shower of bandits accepting millions from the same people bringing us Covid 19.  Gemma O'Doherty goes into all this in detail of how the paedophile priests managed to get away wit what they did for so long. 

There's a document called Crimen Solicitationis which is an 80 page document written in Latin explaining how the Vatican covered up the accusations and the perpetrators. Priests from the Vatican interviewed victims who reported the abuse pretending to care and see to it that some form of retribution was seen to be done. All they did was transfer the priest to another diocese. If the victim continued to press, they were ex-communicated from the Catholic Church. 

 

The Catholic Church were also behind all the immigration into the USA from South America which serves disrupt society, cause tension and chaos - just like what's happening in Europe.   

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Indeed! Gemma O Doherty I understand was arrested in Dublin a few days ago, during a peaceful protest. Regardless, she is a brave activist for truth and justice,fir many years now. Damning the Cathlic Church for example In regards to the unwed mother's babies born in Ireland, in Catholic mither/babies homes run by Catholic nuns, many dead infant mass graves were unearthed there, utterly shocking, whilst other babies were sold for profit..... think movie "Philomena" exposed this horrid Catholic evilness. Miss Doherty also has been outspoken in regards to the Mc Cann parents (Catholic/doctors), about their child Madeline's alleged abduction by paedophiles,despite no evidence of an abduction. A similar child alleged abduction in the 1970's, in a Catholic family in Donegal, bares similarities to the Mc Cann case, IMHO, both cases have dark underlings. The Catholic Church IMHO have much to answer for. Apologies if I've ranted a wee bit off topic! 

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Who cares about that crap.  The Catholic church did this or that.  So what.  This whole world is going to hell.

It was Jesus of Nazareth himself who initiated the Church, go read him.

I think people don't quite understand what the Church is about ... perhaps they imagine it's another fish&chips take away, or some politicians or something.

What is it that people do in the Church?

What they do is practices to make them immortal.

That means literally immortal, meaning when their bodies die they do not die.

That is a very high goal, a goal so high almost nobody in the land even considers it a possibility.

And when you go for a high goal ... you don't worry about a few bad eggs.

You don't even worry if the Church is on fire whilst you are doing the practices.

Because every single person is going to be extinct sooner or later unless they make a miracle happen inside them.

... and by the way, I happen to know that the very stupid dumb worshippers non-scientific emotional faith people ... I happen to know that what they do works.

For the rest the materialist scientists, they will be bragging and laughing the entire way through their life until they are put into the hole in the ground and finally they will be silent forever.

On this planet ... there are few lifeboats.

And what is more, nobody even cares.

 

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On 8/29/2020 at 11:37 PM, thezouz said:

As somebody who grew up in a very religious family, I've strayed away from Roman Catholic church that my parents are a part of, as I've seen a lot of contradictions and illogicness in Bible's teachings and how Vatican reacts to global events. I've been also intrigued by parallels between Jesus and many others (Horus, Nimrod, Mithra...). Do those parallels hold up?

 

Study the thread below for a rundown of the catholic church and the Jesuits. It quite horrifying...

 

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What are peoples thoughts on Walter Veith? He talks about Catholicism and Rome quite a bit.

 

 

- The Power Behind The Scenes (Mystery Babylon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKcXTYWh2F0

 

- The First Beast (Rome)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGiXc9ydhqw

 

- The Second Beast (USA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olsYpD0OJKU

 

- The Secrets Behind Secret Societies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDrscByKEUQ

 

- The Hidden Agendas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q18iSz6mus

 

- Revolutions, Tyrants and Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ617fTHzc

 

- The New World Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hct9S4cLYQY

 

- The UN & Occult Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNU-jlHkDs

 

- The Islamic Connection to Freemasonry/Rome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA

 

- The New Age Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-8-teAlZsE

 

- BOOK OF REVELATION: Intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sAOKF9rOI

 

- BOOK OF REVELATION: Seven Churches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drGT_ieTw78

 

- BOOK OF REVELATION: Seven Seals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0muBYQCrfk

 

- BOOK OF REVELATION: Trumpets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3WggB3OoYc

 

- The Truth About Death & Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4GtU_rqFww

 

- Ancient Prophecies Prove Jesus Is Messiah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTSKfXzdiuE

 

- Life, Journey and Teachings of Jesus Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Pu9T1UrGI

 

- Sanctuary, Sin, Law, Ministry, and More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qObLoRXFsg

 

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On 9/25/2020 at 9:48 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

What are peoples thoughts on Walter Veith? He talks about Catholicism and Rome quite a bit.


Been listening to the Onslaught series for days now.  Thank you.  Makes me think of where I am from, New Orleans, Louisiana.  It’s always been a den of iniquity.  It’s always been a Jesuit run city since its founding in the 1700s.  The Jesuit school was the “best boys’ school.”  You can guess what happened there over the years. 

 

Never put the Pagan/Jesuit connection together.   I was too busy living in hell but didn’t know how close I was to the fire.  Mardi Gras, the pagan festival, is still the biggest deal there.  The old crews are old money with names like Comus, Proteus, and Knights of Babylon.  Its impossible to get out of that town without damage.  

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Been listening to the Onslaught series for days now.  Thank you.  Makes me think of where I am from, New Orleans, Louisiana.  It’s always been a den of iniquity.  It’s always been a Jesuit run city since its founding in the 1700s.  The Jesuit school was the “best boys’ school.”  You can guess what happened there over the years. 

 

Never put the Pagan/Jesuit connection together.   I was too busy living in hell but didn’t know how close I was to the fire.  Mardi Gras, the pagan festival, is still the biggest deal there.  The old crews are old money with names like Comus, Proteus, and Knights of Babylon.  Its impossible to get out of that town without damage.  

 

No prob.

 

He seems a bit quiet in regards to the Zionist connection, but on the whole I find his talks to be pretty interesting.

 

Apologies if a couple of those video titles are wrong too. The first link says 'The Power Behind The Scenes (Mystery Babylon)', but the vid is about the antichrist. I didn't compile the list, I just copied it a while back from some anon. I guess I didn't bother to check the links as I have watched most of Walter's talks years ago.

 

 

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On 8/30/2020 at 12:37 AM, thezouz said:

As somebody who grew up in a very religious family, I've strayed away from Roman Catholic church that my parents are a part of, as I've seen a lot of contradictions and illogicness in Bible's teachings and how Vatican reacts to global events. I've been also intrigued by parallels between Jesus and many others (Horus, Nimrod, Mithra...). Do those parallels hold up?

The history of the papacy is the condemnation of the Church of Rome. Regarding the parallels: it's a matter of perception; since I believe in the Judeo/Christian creator Elohim - I perceive the similarities to be remnants of the lost truth of Christ which was taught by Noah after the flood to his children; so I believe the earth was repopulated by Noah and his children and from that point onward as they inhabited the earth, the true story was lost and adulterated into Horus and so forth and so on. This is my perceived belief based on my own search for truth. 

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7 hours ago, Steph said:

My experience is, if they know anything, they dont teach it. 

 

Yes I think you are correct.

 

13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.[d]

 

(39) Jesus said: The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (and) have hidden them. They did not go in, and those who wished to go in they did not allow. But you, be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

 

I thought there was another quote but I can't find it at the minute - something about the pharisees have lost the keys and stop others from entering - maybe its the one above but I thought there was another one.

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8 hours ago, Steph said:

My experience is, if they know anything, they dont teach it. The symbols are legit, the holy book is legit but no one seems to know anything but repetative rituals. If theres any spiritual knowledge, its concealled.

 

The seven secret sciences which the fallen Angels bought down with them before the flood, have been concealed through Hermes, then Nimrod which led to the Freemasons of today keeping this Spiritual knowledge between themselves, especially the 33 degree Masons.

 

But God said that in the end days our knowledge shall be increased greatly. Daniel 12:4-6

 

Isaiah 11:9 says that knowledge must increase until the earth is full of the knowledge of the Lord. 

 

Again this knowledge is not technological but spiritual.  Daniel did not have jet travel or computers in mind when he prophesied that knowledge shall be increased.  It’s the knowledge of salvation revealed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  When the light of the knowledge of the glory of God shines down on us we no longer need to run around searching for redemption, it is right before our eyes! 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, alexa said:

But God said that in the end days our knowledge shall be increased greatly. Daniel 12:4-6

 

Isaiah 11:9 says that knowledge must increase until the earth is full of the knowledge of the Lord. 

 

Again this knowledge is not technological but spiritual. .  It’s the knowledge of salvation revealed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. 

 

Your quote says "knowledge shall be increased greatly" ...  Knowledge of "salvation" is not an increase in knowledge !! ...It's the same thing Christians believed 2,000 years ago ... so no increase there .... ( the quote does not say "knowledge will be more wide spread" , but INCREASED )

 

What would be an increase in knowledge is if you could talk to god ... ask him who are the cabal , what is corona all about . Ask him anything ...

 

And this is what we have with Karl Mollison , he's cracked the procedure necessary to talk to god ! And YOU can send in questions to ask God !

 

 

 

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Unlike alot of the teachings I've come across, freemasonry is a bit like the digital rights management fanatics of the sacred writings. I dont know enough about the meaning of the 33 degrees to even make sense of what you are talking about in terms as it might be understood by other sacred traditions. I assume a certain meaning to the seven secret sciences but I cant say for sure if seven isnt just some lucky number that happens to coincide with christological meanings that could be interpreted from what you say.

 

I run a website called auranos.org. I'm looking for articles to be written about all forms of sacred teachings which are original and will help people to make better sense of the writings they are based on. I dont know much about freemasonry except what rumours anyone hears. You can write articles anonymously, by TOR relay if you desire or you can open up an account with an email address and lock your own articles to prevent vandalism of your work. You'll get a share of any donations according to the level of appreciation of the articles you create. This months donations stand at a grand total of zero pounds and zero pence so dont get your hopes up about giving up your day job. The charitable side is to provide help to people requiring better spiritual understanding.

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57 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

Your quote says "knowledge shall be increased greatly" ...  Knowledge of "salvation" is not an increase in knowledge !!

 

These seven secret sciences is what is to be revealed to us during the last days.

I thank you for your request for me to look into Karl Mollison, but No thanks I'd rather ask God personally.

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Human beings are a dirty species.    Anyone who comes with light truth and consciousness is ripped to shreds.  Literally the humans are in such a bad corrupt way that ... they literally tear the bodies apart of those who have any sanity.

What we call "religion" is just sanity, that's all.

And they are so arrogant these humans ... they all strut around telling each other "the truth" and "who did it" and "the bad people who are doing it" .... no.  YOU are doing it.  YOU.

All humans are "doing it".

And this endless blaming and hating and destroying of each other ... tells its own story.

The fact is that Jesus was a man who could see the truth and they came from all quarters to rip him to shreds.

The only message of truth that could last on such a planet was the crucifixion ... somehow those early students managed to spread his message that is in the New Testament.  Few people read it these days, they have no idea what it is.

Nor do they actually do the practices in church on Sunday.  In a Catholic Church where they actually do practices, energetic, psychological, transmission, consciousness and subconscious.   All those practices do these things.

But no ... who needs to know anything to have an opinion.

Humans are opinions, with legs ... and then hatred.

They are always better ... righter ... truthier ... they tear down truth wherever they see it.

It is the only thing that makes them feel good, that and wine and bringing more kids into this world they can tell off.

Strange place.

Confusing place.

Anyway that's where the species is at.

And now let's go to the greatest hits of mankind :

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, rideforever said:

The only message of truth that could last on such a planet was the crucifixion ... somehow those early students managed to spread his message that is in the New Testament.  Few people read it these days, they have no idea what it is.

 

Sadly this true, if only people would read the word of God which is so interesting, and ask him, they would find out so many truths about the past, the present & the future.

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Yes well ... if you are mad and born in a mad world where the most insane and confused people are running the world it's pretty difficult really.  Many spiritual people although they do point to the truth speak in such confusing ways that it's difficult.

 

I sense the Book of Revelation is not very useful ... people always like a big story with a big ending, darkness vs the light and all that.  But for christ sakes things are actually a lot more simple.

 

That's where humans are at, they like thrilling movies ... they like to live like that imagining there is some darkness and they are going to save the day.   The whole society is sort of designed around this theme !!!  It's like a big theatre.  Not much time for reality.

Reality, objective things, like growing food ... it's all used to make the theatre more exciting.  People do really like it here in theatre disaster world.

 

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Some more on Catholicism ...

Confession is when you see the priest privately and reflecting on the previous weeks months and years, you tell him what you did wrong, what you regret ... what you wish you hadn't done.  The things you'd like to change.   And you say some prayers like Hail Mary Full of Grace, the Lord is With Thee ...

These prayers cause beautiful feelings to enter into you ... that is their effect.

So the effect of Confession is to empty yourself of bad things you regret and cause divine feelings to descend into you to replace them.

 

It's amazing that such religious people lived in the West.  This is really a very good practice.   For a whole community to do this much have a very big effect on them.

 

Even psychotherapy today ... you know therapists today make you more comfortable being a satanist or a rainbow.   That is how evil humans can be.  They use these tools to do things like that.

 

So, for sure right now there are dark forces who have invited in many demons into the priesthood to damage it ... but still there is some life in it yet.

 

People think this world is easy ... but this world is maya ... it is ... well, you'll see for yourself soon enough.

 

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Meanwhile back at the Vatican this asshole  Pope is agreeing to civil sodomy unions ... or whatever you call it.

Slight problem is that Jesus said this:

"Can you not see that from the beginning the Lord made them man and woman, and so you shall leave your mother and father, and the husband shall find a wife, and the twain become one flesh".

 

This Pope is a vehicle for darkness.

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On 8/30/2020 at 12:37 AM, thezouz said:

As somebody who grew up in a very religious family, I've strayed away from Roman Catholic church that my parents are a part of, as I've seen a lot of contradictions and illogicness in Bible's teachings and how Vatican reacts to global events. I've been also intrigued by parallels between Jesus and many others (Horus, Nimrod, Mithra...). Do those parallels hold up?

 

The chosen symbology may be similar (obviously to create common ground with pagans that they wished to convert), but if you read the Bible then you find a very different person in Jesus than in those other figures.

 

The Catholic Church has a complex history. One can look at the troubles and abuses but one can just as well point out the importance the Church played in the early days bringing reading and writing, law and knowledge of Greece/Rome, and the person of Jesus to other parts of Europe. They practically exported the basis of an entire civilization to the rest of the continent over the course of many centuries.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Firebird said:

One can look at the troubles and abuses but one can just as well point out the importance the Church played in the early days bringing reading and writing, law and knowledge of Greece/Rome, and the person of Jesus to other parts of Europe. They practically exported the basis of an entire civilization to the rest of the continent over the course of many centuries.

 

I tend to disagree here, Everything that was taught by the Roman Catholic Church was for their own wicked agenda.

The law was already written in the Bible which they tried their hardest to Keep out of the hands of us peasants and as for Jesus, I always thought it was Mary their false idol whom the Catholics worshiped & promoted. It was only through the Apostle Paul & his written testimonies (who they slaughtered) did Jesus become world known.

 

The Roman Catholic Church is evil to the core, nothing good has or will come out of her.

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I tend to disagree here, Everything that was taught by the Roman Catholic Church was for their own wicked agenda.

The law was already written in the Bible which they tried their hardest to Keep out of the hands of us peasants

 

You have to look into the context here. Most people couldn't even read or write because (1) it wasn't necessary, most people worked with their hands, and (2) it was expensive to learn. Books were expensive. Printing also came later. It's therefore entirely rational to have a population that depends on a priestly class and their teaching and interpretation of the Bible.

There is no ''wicked agenda'', only historical context that perfectly explains why there was a priestly class and why most people weren't very educated on these kind of topics. Over time they lost their exclusive powers (or 'privileges') because of technological development.

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