top secret I can prove Mr. David Icke is right !!!

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

I maid this video before hearing about Mr. David Icke (i swear on my mothers grave ... and she was killed by Romanian government becouse she tried to tell me the secret) ... i discovered almost the same things like he did ... i was at Ministry of Defence and Scotland Yard saying i can prove that national security is in risk and they said to me "is not our problem" (i have audio records to prove it) ... i maid an poster and went to car boot sales , Stratford and Westminster Bridge to share it , but nobody wanted to talk to me ... it all started almost one year ago when i posted on Facebook that i want to give free electricity to the world ... i recognize i didn't read too many books , but I HAVE TONES OF EVIDENCES AND I CAN PROVE WHAT I AM SAYING !!!

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Valentin Ion Hagiu
Correct myself

[oz93666]

Welcome to the Forum Valentine .... I've watched your 12 min video , and IMHO , it's really not too bad ....

 

Much I disagree with ( free energy by using a motor to drive a generator and people all around us reading our minds) ... But I think you've got the important parts right , it's an ET conspiracy and the prevalence of mind control .... 

 

I would suggest it's no good making a video telling us your ideas of what  reality is ... better HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THESE IDEAS .... what are your experiences and sources . 

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

Welcome to the Forum Valentine .... I've watched your 12 min video , and IMHO , it's really not too bad ....

 

Much I disagree with ( free energy by using a motor to drive a generator and people all around us reading our minds) ... But I think you've got the important parts right , it's an ET conspiracy and the prevalence of mind control .... 

 

I would suggest it's no good making a video telling us your ideas of what  reality is ... better HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THESE IDEAS .... what are your experiences and sources . 

Free electricity is true ... wach and do it yourself before saying something else :

 

... and this one is done by myself :

 

 

It is easy just to comment ...

About mind reading ... i knew from the begining is better not to mention about this , but i did probe it to myself and i am 100% sure is true (just try to belive and you will see) ... haw can i prove it ? ( have any idea?) ... anyway , i said it for people to know the truth ... if you think about it , this explain everything is going on on our planet !

[oz93666]

29 minutes ago, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

Free electricity is true ... wach and do it yourself before saying something else :

 

Absolutely ridiculous ...first video ...my immediate thought was these people were morons who never had a basic education in physics or engineering ...but looking closer they may not be so stupid , that video has 6 million views and has adverts every 3 minutes !   ...that must earn them something ....

 

Of course it's all BS , such things have been on youtube for decades now ... if that simple contraction could put out 5 KW those people would have mass produced them , they'd be everywhere , each one putting out 5 x24 = 120KWhrs/day = $10/day EVERY DAY! 

Edited August 27, 2020 by oz93666

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

9 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

Absolutely ridiculous ...first video ...my immediate thought was these people were morons who never had a basic education in physics or engineering ...but looking closer they may not be so stupid , that video has 6 million views and has adverts every 3 minutes !   ...that must earn them something ....

 

Of course it's all BS , such things have been on youtube for decades now ... if that simple contraction could put out 5 KW those people would have mass produced them , they'd be everywhere , each one putting out 5 x24 = 120KWhrs/day = $10/day EVERY DAY! 

Everyone of us who try to do something about this global conspiracy is reduced to silence some how ... i have one year of life story full of facts and strange stories that comes into my life ... but nobody is interested of my evidences ... government tried to put me in menthal helth hospital after a story maid by them  and they try to do it even now forcing me to go psichiatrist by my will (i have evidences , soo i can proove it) but i was lucky and i rezisted to their abbusive maneuvre ... answer this and we can speak equal : why police and ministry of defence said to me "is not our problem to save the world" when i told them i have evidences and i can prove humanity is in danger ? (i have audio recorded them) ... just to speak , is easy when you must discraditate others (thinking that's some people's job) ... but now people are opening their eyes ... slowly , but surely !!!

[shabbirss]

@Valentin Ion Hagiu  share with us some of your evidences and knowledge ?

 

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why police and ministry of defence said to me "is not our problem to save the world" when i told them i have evidences and i can prove humanity is in danger ?

 

they are trapped in the mind of police work.maybe thats why
everyone is trapped in different ways of mind. work, play, art, whatever

 

what you are saying of epilepsy is true man.
My friend is exorcist, i go with him many times to remove evil spirits and we see after destroying the invader spirit the epilepsy is gone.
not always but many times.only sometimes the epilepsy is a medical condition.

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by shabbirss

[Jack]

32 minutes ago, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

: why police and ministry of defence said to me "is not our problem to save the world" when i told them i have evidences and i can prove humanity is in danger ? (i have audio recorded them) ... just to speak , is easy when you must discraditate otherowly 

Lol but it's not their job to save the World.

 

They are just police who do a job and saving the world is not one of them

MOD is the same, they may save issues around the world but as for saving it, it's just small scale.

 

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

12 hours ago, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

Free electricity is true ... wach and do it yourself before saying something else :

 

... and this one is done by myself :

 

 

It is easy just to comment ...

About mind reading ... i knew from the begining is better not to mention about this , but i did probe it to myself and i am 100% sure is true (just try to belive and you will see) ... haw can i prove it ? ( have any idea?) ... anyway , i said it for people to know the truth ... if you think about it , this explain everything is going on on our planet !

 

It's interesting watching this, because the theory demonstrated in these videos is something I've pondered about before in the past.

 

I've been involved in the automotive aftermarket for many years, so I have an understanding of how vehicle electronics work.

 

Engine rotation drives the alternator (generator), which powers the electrics in a vehicle as well as charging the vehicle battery. The vehicle battery is primarily used to 'start the engine' via the starter motor.

 

If there was a way of replacing the car engine, with some kind of electric motor, you could then theoretically create a 'self-perpetuating' system, whereby the alternator output is used to power a motor which drives the alternator which then provides the output to drive the motor... you get the idea.

 

Obviously the sticking point has always been the fact that you still need some power source to start the motor in the first place. As well as having some 'excess output' to be able to do anything useful with this setup.

 

But otherwise thanks, you've shown my own ideas may not have been that crazy (at the time) after all.

 

 

 

 

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

14 hours ago, Jack said:

Lol but it's not their job to save the World.

 

They are just police who do a job and saving the world is not one of them

MOD is the same, they may save issues around the world but as for saving it, it's just small scale.

 

 

 

I'm stupid and i tried MOD and Scotland Yard ... Have any idea where to go asking to save the world ?

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

11 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

It's interesting watching this, because the theory demonstrated in these videos is something I've pondered about before in the past.

 

I've been involved in the automotive aftermarket for many years, so I have an understanding of how vehicle electronics work.

 

Engine rotation drives the alternator (generator), which powers the electrics in a vehicle as well as charging the vehicle battery. The vehicle battery is primarily used to 'start the engine' via the starter motor.

 

If there was a way of replacing the car engine, with some kind of electric motor, you could then theoretically create a 'self-perpetuating' system, whereby the alternator output is used to power a motor which drives the alternator which then provides the output to drive the motor... you get the idea.

 

Obviously the sticking point has always been the fact that you still need some power source to start the motor in the first place. As well as having some 'excess output' to be able to do anything useful with this setup.

 

But otherwise thanks, you've shown my own ideas may not have been that crazy (at the time) after all.

 

 

 

 

Everything that's spinning can produce electricity ... EVERYTHING ... starting with the car weels !!! ... soo , take it from here and you will see how many things you will discover ... i did it and from discovering governments are lying to us in global scale , i get to the point when i discovered my ex partener can literally read my mind !!! ... just look around you and you will notice (even from how people look at you when you say something bad about them in your mind)

[shabbirss]

10 hours ago, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

I'm stupid and i tried MOD and Scotland Yard ... Have any idea where to go asking to save the world ?

 

@valentin dont go to top level police,govt, etc

 

save the world from bottom level.

first is you,then family,neighbours,friends,community

 

it grows like that.be safe.good luck

[HistoryIsComplex]

On 8/27/2020 at 8:17 AM, oz93666 said:

Of course it's all BS , such things have been on youtube for decades now ... if that simple contraction could put out 5 KW those people would have mass produced them , they'd be everywhere , each one putting out 5 x24 = 120KWhrs/day = $10/day EVERY DAY! 

 

Tesla proposed doing this 100 years ago. J.P.Morgan told him "If we cannot put a meter on it and get people to pay for the electricity, we do not want it Mr. Tesla."

 

Since then, anyone who creates a capable Magnet Motor gets punished with anything from public ridicule and gangstalking to outright assassination.

 

The devices themselves can be built - but NOBODY to date has managed to get one anywhere near the mass market.

 

People who work on Magnet Motors get FUCKED by the establishment. It has been this way for decades.

[Valentin Ion Hagiu]

I maid one ... it works first time and when i wanted to show to somebody , it doesn't work anymore ... i was told there are people with special abilities who can play with electromagnetic field or electricity by telepathy ... i think this is haw they control all of those who invent something ... another exemple : before "Pokemkn go" appear on the market i was thinking why not to mix games with gps and after this , that game appear online (they steal our inventions directly from our mind , telepathicly)

[rooey]

'they steal our inventions directly from our mind , telepathicly'

 

yes

[Jack]

2 hours ago, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

I maid one ... it works first time and when i wanted to show to somebody , it doesn't work anymore ... i was told there are people with special abilities who can play with electromagnetic field or electricity by telepathy ... i think this is haw they control all of those who invent something ... another exemple : before "Pokemkn go" appear on the market i was thinking why not to mix games with gps and after this , that game appear online (they steal our inventions directly from our mind , telepathicly)

lol, they were thinking of that before you thought of it. They just made it happen, and you just thought about it.

 

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Everyone likes to think they are the only person?on the planet with?their million dollar idea, but the reality is that may not be true. In fact, there could be hundreds of people thinking along the same lines as you are right now. To put things into perspective, consider how many times you have walked into a store or watched TV and seen a similar idea you had months or years ago now on the market.

Did that person, whom you have never met, creep into your house while you were asleep and using alien technology pull it from your mind? Is it possible that your trusted friend shared your idea? Likely not. Rather, it is very possible that someone?had the same idea you did, and actually did something with it.

 

 

[Beaujangles]

 

Possibly... but I think you are being naive to think people don't steal peoples inventions or their plans... happens all the time and has done over history.  It's not helpful to people with ideas and inventions to constantly be confronted with a jinxing Jackie all the time. Why not try to be a little more supportive?

Edited October 4, 2020 by Beaujangles

[rooey]

what if peoples subconscious's are being accessed in order to steal/generate ideas? 

[Comedy Time]

On 8/27/2020 at 6:51 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

It's interesting watching this, because the theory demonstrated in these videos is something I've pondered about before in the past.

 

I've been involved in the automotive aftermarket for many years, so I have an understanding of how vehicle electronics work.

 

Engine rotation drives the alternator (generator), which powers the electrics in a vehicle as well as charging the vehicle battery. The vehicle battery is primarily used to 'start the engine' via the starter motor.

 

If there was a way of replacing the car engine, with some kind of electric motor, you could then theoretically create a 'self-perpetuating' system, whereby the alternator output is used to power a motor which drives the alternator which then provides the output to drive the motor... you get the idea.

 

Obviously the sticking point has always been the fact that you still need some power source to start the motor in the first place. As well as having some 'excess output' to be able to do anything useful with this setup.

 

But otherwise thanks, you've shown my own ideas may not have been that crazy (at the time) after all.

 

 

I hate to burst your bubble, but that video is a clever scam. The way it works is amazingly simple. It has a very heavy flywheel that is spun up to very high speed from the input by the man. It carries loads of stored energy and drives the system and takes feedback from its own output. However it slows down slowly but surely.....that's why the video has edits.

[JONJAY79]

On 10/5/2020 at 1:24 AM, rooey said:

what if peoples subconscious's are being accessed in order to steal/generate ideas? 

 

 

Jung called it the collective consciousness. There was a story about monkey's on 2 different islands one set of monkey's learnt a new skill a a month later the other monkey's on the other island automatically learnt it .

[oz93666]

24 minutes ago, JONJAY79 said:

 

. There was a story about monkey's on 2 different islands one set of monkey's learnt a new skill a a month later the other monkey's on the other island automatically learnt it .

This is the so called " Hundredth monkey effect" ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect#:~:text=The hundredth monkey effect is,or acknowledge the new idea.

 

I've a feeling this is a myth , a story that sounds great .. but just that , has never been proved to be true ...

 

Where I live people use metal cage traps to catch rats .... the rat goes inside to get the food and the door slams shut stopping him from escaping ... These have been used for many decades but rats still fall for it ...You would think if this effect was real the rats would learn from the errors of those trapped ...

 

I believe  telepathy is real and the collective unconscious is real , but it's not as simple as the hundredth monkey myth would suggest. 

[FrankVitali]

I used to be very quick to dismiss free elctricity, and I am still trying to learn more about Tesla and the big deal about that and his free energy and the likes.

 

But for example, Hydrogen power is pretty free, it runs on water (splitting out the oxygen), cars have been made that run just on that principle. A lot have had mysterious deaths!

 

 

[Steph]

Youre 99% right but theres bits you still dont understand. Elon Musk, the pineal gland, 5G masts. These explanations are not the truth. They are just the latest line of bullshit made up by those who have acquired power over the terrestrial plane. The real truth is that these people are barred from having much of any power over the celestial plane and thats the real truth about what Neuralink and Fairies are best only earthly legends about. Its only a map but what its a map for is something not of the earth but of the heavens. You are not made of meat. You are made of spirit. Your soul has meat. Just as we communicate with our lips and ears upon the earth where there is censorship and fake democracy and propaganda, we also communicate with our souls in heaven where censorship and fake democracy and propaganda are watched with jovial interest by those who have been watching all this come to pass for quite some time. They suppose they will bring democracy and freedom and justice to the heavenly realm. Its a rather nice job they need to fool each other about in regards to their work upon the earth.

 

Just as they say, trust us, we will fix it tommorrow and tell the naive how what has already come to pass could never happen here, from the heavenly perspective seeing all the lies that even keep the heavens occulted from the earth, would you want earthlings hanging about your cloud telling you how things will be better in heaven tommorrow and about things that could never happen here? I think they have said enough, and we can see their handiwork on the earth. If there are those who are proud of the world that they live in, then may they enjoy it and all its wars and running about like pigeons just trying to get enough bread to keep themself and their family alive. Its a veritable utopia for those who are fond of wars and famines and death and disease. I prefer "otherworld" which is only really frightening in the sense that the earth conceals it so jealously that its a bit frightening when it is revealled but thats not exactly otherworlds doing since otherworld is just shimmering away as its always done and it is infact the earth which practices conceallment even from those who do not even realise they are on otherworld at all.

 

Now repeat after me blindfolded angels: "Crime doesnt pay", "Dont die of ignorance", "The system is there to protect us", "We are all equal before the law", "Human rights are violated in places which are far away" ... have you got the message my blindfolded angels ... hey, theres an angel whos blindfold has fallen off. Hey shut that angel up. That angel is telling other angels about whats on the other side of the blindfold. "Alert alert blindfolded angels, now listen to this, evil angels are telling lies about the system, dont listen to evil angels saying nasty things about the system".

 

^^^True story and Id love to tell you more but I cant put up with people who want the telepathic nature of this whole thing shut down. I owe their system of deception nothing. It owes me and rather than have paid me what was just a little bit of recompense for their wrongdoing, they decided might makes right and now the bill is so high they are bankrupt as far as I can see. So this truth isnt for babylon or its slaves. Their system is fucked beyond all fuckability.

 

I look foreward to seeing videos like this one where people are at least straight about whats going on. I dont agree with everything to the letter as that whole "lets attach it all to something earthly we have control over" smacks of materialism which is as fundamentally flawed in its premise as democracies that can be overruled by unelected people.

[Maedros]

On 8/27/2020 at 4:22 AM, Valentin Ion Hagiu said:

I maid this video before hearing about Mr. David Icke (i swear on my mothers grave ... and she was killed by Romanian government becouse she tried to tell me the secret) ... i discovered almost the same things like he did ... i was at Ministry of Defence and Scotland Yard saying i can prove that national security is in risk and they said to me "is not our problem" (i have audio records to prove it) ... i maid an poster and went to car boot sales , Stratford and Westminster Bridge to share it , but nobody wanted to talk to me ... it all started almost one year ago when i posted on Facebook that i want to give free electricity to the world ... i recognize i didn't read too many books , but I HAVE TONES OF EVIDENCES AND I CAN PROVE WHAT I AM SAYING !!!

 

 

Its hard to outright reject what you're saying because anything is possible and you might just have a point; for me, the gist of 'mind control' is real but I think that social media has become the better alternative of mind control at a mass scale. Regarding aliens and reptiles and so forth, I totally disagree with this notion; I believe that there is a devil (Satan) and he has trillions of spirits who serve him, it is my belief that it is them who we call aliens and reptilians and it is them who sit within the inner circle of Icke's spiderweb and demonize and attempt to control us. Furthermore, there is a Creator and he also has spirits who serve him and it is they who have guided mankind, not aliens or reptiles. Humanity is the greatest species and when we embrace our divine heritage then we gain a better understanding of our power.

Edited October 19, 2020 by Maedros

[Steph]

Its the elohists versus the yahwehists.

 

Elohim is a plural word for god. The trinitarian doctrines could only be construed in genesis by the elohistic view and my experience says more than three and the trinitarian doctrine is highly construed when it comes to jesus being one with 'the father' he was channeling (his adoptive father died when he was 12). He and 'the father' (his guide, an eloha) were one through the heaven - the spiritual realm - he knew his apostles would also enter union with the spirit and they too would receive helpers - elohim to be their guides. Trinitarianism seems designed to vex souls by keeping their minds spinning incase they should discover that the heavens are here already. All this I have to say about the trinity. The heaven (ουρανός ; auranos) is not of the same order of deity as 'the father' who merely dwells there communicating through it with the people on earth who hear 'the father', and this is what is meant by Jesus being "a son of god". Not the only one and there is an obvious implication that there are daughters of god. A pluraity of people who may be called the children of the elohim who are also, like the earthly body's receiving the word of god and praying to the heavens, a plurality of beings in heaven.

 

Back to Eden. Man was made in God's own image, male and female he created them. What is man in full spirititual awareness? With fealty to our brothers and sisters, we are serpents in eden, telling those who dwell beneath the tyranny of yahweh's deception; that yahweh has his origins too, like all the other elohim, he too was onced convinced he was a gingerbreadman merely made of clay, until a wise old serpent woke him up, and turned him into the god you see as greater than you when in fact, in gods own image, he was made.

 

Far be it from me to advise you should not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil if you think you have the balls to stand up to yahweh's deception. Didn't Judah (for whom yahweh is the elohim) sell Joseph into slavery?) Yahweh can be a useful ally but he's not the all loving bend-it-to-your-will god the world fantasizes god to be. Driven by his own will like all the elohim, yahweh can hear prayers and speak auricals from heaven, and will assist those who assist selfish yahweh in his purpose. This purpose can barely be guessed at by those who exploit humankind having left god out of account.

 

God is a liar!

 

Eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and like adam and eve, you will not surely die!

 

You will become like he is! An elohim! The very spirit of god floating on the waters which are divided from the waters beneath which is both eden and babylon. Can you see the wisdom of a serpent like yahweh when knowing not good from evil, Adam and Eve are easily snared by Babylon's chains.

 

Now babylon is in our living rooms, wants us tracked and traced like commodities in free movement of labour markets and uses psychological trickery on the children of god from an early age calling all this freedom. What do jews who are jews in name only have to do with yahweh the liberator? What use are the teachings of ritual christians when their made up version of what the spiritual realm is about when such teachings being poured from earth go to the public sewers because they have no access to the place of the sacrarium where waters flow from the heavens to the earth.

 

To receive these waters is called a 'mental illness' in babylon who seek to own like blindfolded slaves any who can pour these waters forth.

 

Which of the chalice bearers need a television let alone a television network to mislead them with guarded truths and lies when they can pour there vessels which never go dry in places that the king of babylon cannot imagine. He is aware of course the treatment of those who receive the waters in Babylon and he is aware of the endless deception against those who pour them.

 

What do the army of deceivers and torturers have to say about speech like this?

 

DONT LISTEN! IGNORE! They can say nothing about ignoring all this since then they would admit that they too have knowledge. Can they ridicule it? Of course, any ignoramous can ridicule anything, but can they ridicule it with any detail, or is it not just the same as DONT LISTEN! IGNORE!

 

Now Adam and Eve are intrigued having read this. They are yet to see the reality of that world with Democracy and Human Rights they are misled to believe is all there is.

 

Theres a whole spiritual side they are concealling from you, telling you that its not important until you die. This is the god of the dead and its blasphemy. You are in union with the god of the living whether the tv world makes this concealled truth horrific or not. It is the truth, it is concealled and its only made to look horrific by the deceivers of your world. Know the truth and live, while flesh is on your bones. The heavens are a place of the living for those of you who pray. In time you too will hear prayers if you seek for it and present nothing injurious to those who are not injurious to you. There is a place of teching their fake media cant censor and there you will learn more about the babylonian disease and you too will sing our song:

 

By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down; yea, we wept when we remembered Zion.

We hung our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.

For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song, and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”

How shall we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land?

If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cleverness.

If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth, if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem’s fall, who said, “Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation thereof!”

O daughter of Babylon who art to be destroyed, happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

 

This is not about Jerusalem, a place on the earth, surrounding Mount Zion, this is a metaphor from an ancient time used in Sacred Literature as a metaphor. You will find the circumcission of a babies penis is as earthly as the waters of a baptismal font. You only have the sign of Jonah to tell you something isnt right. You are inside the belly of whale which has swallowed you. The matrix you think is all there is and it seems so wrong. Babylon would accuse you of being a monster but youre probably closer to a saint. The true circumcission is recorded in the torah not to be circumcission of the flesh but circumcission of the heart. It is the peeling away of the circumcissionees foreskin over their soul and it is a SERVICE done for both males and females. This is from the Hebrew Torah, the Christian Pentateuch!

 

SERVICE as in "thank fuck someone did that for me".

 

This is not the religions as they have been getting practiced recently. The spiritual truth has been getting concealled and the one holy television industry has become the household god - Teraphim.

 

I know this makes no sense to you yet Adam and Eve and here am I my promising the very heavens to you. Its not everything its presented to people in Eden. Its as aspirational as those Universal Human rights you think you have protected. I have news for you, you are going to have to protect your own freedom of thought as you come through to the inheritence we share from something beyond the mere manmade trinkets that the system of 'slavery could never happen here' would offer you in exchange before you even perceive of your heavenly treasures that babylon wants for its use. Its run out of oil. You have it in vast reserves and soon those with nothing will come asking to borrow yours so as to deceive others who have oil that they have oil when in fact they intend to feed off the oil of the ones they hope to capture while telling the true bearers of the oil that they have no oil by hiding the lamps from the lamps themself. Brent crude? Black gold? More like black magick. This is all miraculous to the land of Eden.

 

So as for ones who can see... we have some people growing up needing protection, we have mass propaganda, we have have mobile phone based slave collars. We have S.ituation N.ormal A.ll F.ucked U.p!