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Does david Icke Still Believe in reptilians? It seems that he has strayed away from that theory


Rudy matos

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I have Read David icke books years ago when i was literally 14 I recently rediscovered his youtube videos and it seems like he has the same premise as a global cabal with intent to rule humanity but it seems that he has strayed away from the alien/reptilian aspect of his initial theories. 

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32 minutes ago, Rudy matos said:

I just curious if David still believes in his initial reptilian theory because it seems that in recent years he has strayed away from that theory.


Hiya Rudy.
Welcome to the forum.
Can l ask which section you';d like to pose this question.
General OR David lcke discussion section.
l'd suggest the latter, but it's up to you..
(edit - l've merged the 2 threads for now , l can move the thread if you'd like)
BC  :O)

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30 minutes ago, Rudy matos said:

it seems that he has strayed away


There's a very obvious world wide take over right now, by the elite / cabal / Illuminati / deep state....or whatever you want to call them.
lf at the very very top they are inter-dimensional shape shifting lizards it's not making a whole lot of difference to us on the ground.
So l'd guess that it's not as important as other stuff.
TBTB are flexing their muscles right now. More important than what's going on at the unseen capstone of the pyramid..

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:


There's a very obvious world wide take over right now, by the elite / cabal / Illuminati / deep state....or whatever you want to call them.
lf at the very very top they are inter-dimensional shape shifting lizards it's not making a whole lot of difference to us on the ground.
So l'd guess that it's not as important as other stuff.
TBTB are flexing their muscles right now. More important than what's going on at the unseen capstone of the pyramid..


nah that stuff is still relevant in terms of working out how we're being herded. like the sheep trying to work out the sheep dog. Are humans capable of that? 

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4 hours ago, Rudy matos said:

I have Read David icke books years ago when i was literally 14 I recently rediscovered his youtube videos and it seems like he has the same premise as a global cabal with intent to rule humanity but it seems that he has strayed away from the alien/reptilian aspect of his initial theories. 

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head Rudy .... 

 

My understanding is David came upon the reptilian replacement theory  after encountering many people who told him stories relating to this  , his belief was  these people were  being guided towards him by a higher benign force , that it was important he get this story out ..... He met an MI5 agent who confided in him ... David asked him "What is the Biggest Secret you and MI5 know"...he replied  "the royals are not human , they're  shape shifting reptilians" ...

After much soul searching David decided to make the reptilian idea the core of his magnum opus , the most important book he ever wrote "The Biggest Secret " , and this is indeed the Biggest Secret , that many top people have been killed and replaced by shape shifting ET's ....

 

So he published... The reaction was predictable .... David is only human .... so understandably in interviews , (it seems) he would prefer the subject was not brought up , it's hard enough convincing people 9/11 was an inside job , never mind the reps!! .... So it's gone on the back burner ... perhaps David is not as convinced as he was , he does seem in come confusion about what/who the reps are exactly , tending to think of them as 'archons, daemons' ... not physical. ....

 

No one man  can do everything , and luckily we have many sources who have confirmed David's initial insight , and massively clarified the whole situation.

 

Preeminent among these sources is Karl Mollison ... He explains the reptilians are one of 3 groups of ET's who work together to enslave humanity ... the reptilians have the unique ability to shift form and  become human ... so they often kill and replace political leaders , for more effective control of humanity .... these three groups are physical ET's ..extremely advanced technologically , and mostly manipulate humanity by  mind control , both psychic , and using tech (3/4/5G) ...

 

   

 

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3 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

you should tell that to JR,but somehow i think he doesn't have the balls nor he nor spotify😏

Yes I sent him or his people an email about 3 weeks back, about Nassim Harramien and David Icke , no reply as of yet

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11 hours ago, Basket Case said:


There's a very obvious world wide take over right now, by the elite / cabal / Illuminati / deep state....or whatever you want to call them.
lf at the very very top they are inter-dimensional shape shifting lizards it's not making a whole lot of difference to us on the ground.

 

I would say it does matter and it's crucial to know who were up against ... 

 

If it's just a bunch of humans , the "1%" , they it should not be too difficult to overthrow them and bring them to justice ,... 

 

Most of those suggesting the reptilian ET hypothesis  say the ET's behind it all are way way ahead of us in all areas ... they are in control of many planets like ours , they have very sophisticated mind control tech and this explains the insane rioting we see breaking out .... Humanity does not have a chance in hell in defeating them by any method we can dream up ..

Only by partnering with a higher force can we succeed 

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Yes I thought David as a guest would have bullshits chance however I thought Nassim may be in with a shot ,but he has pissed a lot of the scientific establishment off as well. They really don't like it when someone with no formal university education is actually smarter than them

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3 hours ago, oz93666 said:

If it's just a bunch of humans , the "1%" , they it should not be too difficult to overthrow them and bring them to justice ,... 

 

Can you explain if.....if the 1% are human, how anyone would begin to bring them to account ?
 

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10 hours ago, Basket Case said:

 

Can you explain if.....if the 1% are human, how anyone would begin to bring them to account ?
 

 

Well... I did say if they were just human it would not be too difficult to bring them to account ... compared to if they were ET's , millions of years more advanced than us , psychic mind control experts and the rest  ....

 

DI often conveniently  forgets this , says "they're just the 1% , if humanity gets off it's knees , it's game over " ....But in his books  he agrees , they came here long ago in space craft , genetically tinkered with us .... thousands of years have passed since then so their tech has moved on drastically ...

 

They have us check-mated , if we rebel against lock-down and masks in any numbers they simply release a real plague .... You think they haven't got something like the Black Death? .. Killed half of Europe , a very nasty way to die ... the ET's just release that and the human cabal go to their underground bases...

I don't think it will go that way , most people are complying ... The ET's have a more spectacular end planned for us ...multiple crises.

 

The only solution is call on Divine Intervention ......There are  Legions of non-physical high beings looking on, and on our side  , they easily outgun the dark forces ...But in this free will Universe they will not step in , it would violate our free will .....unless significant numbers of humans request this    

 

I am convinced this is the only way out .

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On 8/27/2020 at 12:50 AM, Rudy matos said:

I just curious if David still believes in his initial reptilian theory because it seems that in recent years he has strayed away from that theory.

Personally, I thought all the shape shifting, lizard like people was all a load of bollocks jut to get through the censors. (As long as he was considered a crank, they would leave him be assuming everyone would not be able to differentiate truth from fiction and those that could would also be labelled.) 

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that as soon as everything predicted comes to light, the reptile nonsense ceases and then by some 'remarkable twist of fate' .... 

Icke gets deleted from all platforms, barred from entering countries and of course completely ignored by all mainstream media.  There's actually no need for him to go down that road anymore.  

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2 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

In Ukraine significant numbers of humans called for a saviour, and Porochenko appeared.

 

 

Petro Oleksiyovych Poroshenko is a Ukrainian businessman and politician who served as the 5th President of Ukraine from 2014 to 2019. He served as the Minister of Foreign Affairs from 2009 to 2010, and as the Minister of Trade and Economic Development in 2012. Wikipedia

 

Hmmm ... I guess he didn't deliver ... I'm not suggesting we need a Saviour ... ANY human cannot be relied upon the powers and tech the ET's have can neutralize them ...

 

Beings more powerful than the ET's that oppress us are around , they're non physical and waiting for an invitation to help. 

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3 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Beings more powerful than the ET's that oppress us are around , they're non physical and waiting for an invitation to help.

 

At some point one of the things I began to value and value greatly was that in meditation there was nobody but yourself.  That became more and more valuable as I started to see more deeply into human beings.

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I think he just upgraded his original reptilian theories in his latter books, he seems to use different terms to describe them, but I do not think he really changed his view on that, it's just that he doesn't have reason to constantly mention reptilians, as he pretty much went in much detail about that before, and maybe even thinks it is not mandatory for him to re-state that theory over and over, so he just chose new terms like archons and, probably the best term that can be used for these maniacs, psychopaths.

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